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edyzmedieval
07-07-2005, 08:02
When is the Senior Member promotion?!
I'm desperate to find out if I am promoted to the great Senior Membership ~:cheers:
It's really a great honour to be a Senior Member.....
Papewaio
07-07-2005, 08:21
Senior member only means you need viagra. ~:cheers: ~;) ~D
Zalmoxis
07-07-2005, 10:08
Senior member only means you need viagra. ~:cheers: ~;) ~D
So that means moderators need...?
As I mentioned earlier in watchtower, senior membership depens on great contributions to the .org. I you helped with a mod, once was a moderator, etc.
I don't know what privileges they have, someone knows that? ~:confused:
The Wizard
07-07-2005, 13:18
Promotion to Senior membership depends on what contributions you have made to the community that the Org is, and how they have bettered this community. This can be game guides, mods, but also simply the creating of a polite, respectful and calm atmosphere to debate in.
Asking for Senior membership is not the way to get it.
~Wiz
Sasaki Kojiro
07-07-2005, 16:31
You could always try upping your post count. That might work.
Gawain of Orkeny
07-07-2005, 16:59
You could always try upping your post count. That might work.
Nah I tried that it doesnt work. Unless you need more than 10000 posts. But then Jag has that and hes still not a senior member. Its all about making good contributions to the community. I guess Ill just have to keep plugging away best as can . ~D
Yes - trust me post count and years spent here count for nothing and asking for Snr Membership probably makes the liklyhood even less.
Snr membership is rare and is normally on what people contribute to the community.
Papewaio
07-07-2005, 22:16
Don't worry Jag you are our Senior Spammer. ~:cheers:
:bow:
Thank you mr moderator! ~D
King of Atlantis
07-07-2005, 23:12
YAh post count definatly doenst count. Hoggy is one of the only senior members i have ever seen and he has the same amount of post as me.
I think becoming a senior member should be a little easier.
So that means moderators need...?
Tums, aspirin, scotch, and nice cool quiet dark place to go lay down
ichi :bow:
Duke Malcolm
07-07-2005, 23:22
I thought that it was a great honour to be made a senior patron back in the days of junior/senior patron and junior/senior member. You should be happy that you are a member, The youth nowadays are just an ungrateful lot...
I think becoming a senior member should be a little easier.
if it was easier, there'd be a lot more around. If there was a lot more around, the title would lose its meaning.
King of Atlantis
07-08-2005, 02:36
if it was easier, there'd be a lot more around. If there was a lot more around, the title would lose its meaning.
yah, but people with over like 9,000 post(in the backroom mainly) desirve to be senior members in my opinion.
Gawain of Orkeny
07-08-2005, 03:24
yah, but people with over like 9,000 post(in the backroom mainly) desirve to be senior members in my opinion.
Why thank you. ~D But its up to the mods to determine senior members. Hell you could make 20000 worthless posts and not make it or one real good mod and be made one. Also all my 9000 posts werent all gems ~:)
Pft, speak for yourself all mine were marvellous.
~;)
yah, but people with over like 9,000 post(in the backroom mainly) desirve to be senior members in my opinion.
*notices Gawain happens to have 9,000* ~:eek:
I sense a plot! ~;) nah j/k the both of you ~D
Anyway, Senior member is just an honorific title given to those who contribute and make the community a better place. be it through mods/leadership/events/organization or something along those lines. Aside from the cool little title and a slightly larger PM box there's not much you get. Oh, you get free beer at Kukri's house, but then again...you must find him first ~:) ~:cheers:
Pft, speak for yourself all mine were marvellous.
as those big red letters in your avatar attest ~;) ~D
Who care's about promotion? You came here to talk about Total War right? That's what you should care about. The only thing I'd like is being able to edit posts but I'm okay with posting a second reply if I have to add to it.
PanzerJaeger
07-08-2005, 06:04
Ahh, youre somewhat new here.
When the .org becomes a full fledged part of your life, like food or shelter, then you will care about little things like this. ~;)
Gawain of Orkeny
07-08-2005, 07:14
You came here to talk about Total War right? That's what you should care about.
Came being the operative word here. Have you ever been in the backroom?
edyzmedieval
07-08-2005, 07:21
Ahh, youre somewhat new here.
When the .org becomes a full fledged part of your life, like food or shelter, then you will care about little things like this. ~;)
You said everything I wanted to say..... ~D
It really does count very much to be a Senior Member.....
King of Atlantis
07-08-2005, 07:42
Came being the operative word here. Have you ever been in the backroom?
Gawain i was going to say that until i read your post :charge:
But, i dont think he as a junior member can even view the backroom.
It would be cool if Senior members particepated in this discussion and tell us what sort of great contributions they made ...
~:confused:
It would be cool if Senior members particepated in this discussion and tell us what sort of great contributions they made.
They never seem to be willing to tell us about the huge privileges they have ...
I smell a conspiracy ...
:charge:
They never seem to be willing to tell us about the huge privileges they have ...
I smell a conspiracy ...
:charge:
:bow:
They never seem to be willing to tell us about the huge privileges they have ...
I smell a conspiracy ...
:charge:
No you don't. You don't smell anything. There is nothing to smell and even if you did smell it... you really didn't.
You are getting sleepy... sleepy... :stare:
The trick is to stay out of the backroom.
Why do you think the backroom is off limits to junior members that place is scary ~D
Divinus Arma
07-08-2005, 19:17
Glad this discussion took place. I was very curious.
It is a shame there aren't other titles. Peasant, knight, duke, count, etc. Oh wait. I know why. Because that would be retarded.
Good discussion though. Very interesting.
Simetrical
07-08-2005, 20:04
See, you folks should all come over to TWC. Any good poster with 100+ posts gets to be a Civitates. ~;)
-Simetrical
The trick is to stay out of the backroom.
Why do you think the backroom is off limits to junior members that place is scary ~D
Actually, Junior Members can view the Backroom. We can't make any posts but we can look at everything. I looked at a lot of the stuff. Am I cursed now?
Actually, Junior Members can view the Backroom. We can't make any posts but we can look at everything. I looked at a lot of the stuff. Am I cursed now?
Not at all and when you can post, don't hesitate to do so, everyone in the backroom will welcome you with open arms, we are all reasonable warm hearted people really. ~:grouphug:
It is a shame there aren't other titles. Peasant, knight, duke, count, etc. Oh wait. I know why. Because that would be retarded.
We used to have a system like that for the Shogun days, but it was changed for the new board system when we upgraded.
Papewaio
07-09-2005, 00:35
Yes a thousand posts or so got you to Kensai level...
No you don't. You don't smell anything. There is nothing to smell and even if you did smell it... you really didn't.
You are getting sleepy... sleepy... :stare:
Do you see that, guys? This senior member here is trying to shut my mouth about them by hypnotisation! We must take action soon! What are they hiding?
I smell treachery ...
----------------------------------------------
not really, though. the .org mostly doesn't smell. ~;)
*****
So I would be a kensai by now, pape? ~:) ~D
And where's my senior membership? Ill make gregoshi bite your ankles >:
oh and jag, every post you make is about as good as your skill in CS. IE not ;)
Do you see that, guys? This senior member here is trying to shut my mouth about them by hypnotisation! We must take action soon! What are they hiding?
We ain't hiding nothing. ('Cept for da booze and da broads and bands of course.)
~:cheers: :kiss2: :drummer: :singer: :gorgeous: :guitarist:
And I ain't no Senior Member. It's Mr. Assistant Moderator in Charge of Janitorial Duties and Toilet Scrubbing to you buddy!
Duke Malcolm
07-09-2005, 19:05
There seems to be more moderators and assistant moderators than senior members, I would have thought that it would be the other way round. Has admin ever thought of culling a few mods and ast. mods?
Dutch_guy
07-09-2005, 19:22
There seems to be more moderators and assistant moderators than senior members
well a lot of senior members are moderators etc. IIRC Beirut was a senior member before he became a assistant moderator.
:balloon2:
Uesugi Kenshin
07-09-2005, 20:39
Yes he was. IMHO the fewer senior members there are the more significance it holds.
Many senior members don't visit the board very often though and that is partly why there are so few, the other reason is they are generally the ones promoted to assistant moderator and moderator.
Gawain of Orkeny
07-09-2005, 20:53
Hey Im 57 Ive got to be a senior member I even have a Senior citizens card from AARP ~D
Hey Im 57 Ive got to be a senior member I even have a Senior citizens card from AARP ~D
Hehe, you would think that that would count for something right?
Laridus Konivaich
07-09-2005, 22:24
Do senior memberships at the .org include any health-insurance benefits? ~;) Because if they don't, what's the point...?
Craterus
07-09-2005, 23:15
Because if they don't, what's the point...?
Honour...
Respect...
Power...
Intelligence...
Influence...
Honour...
Respect...
Power...
Intelligence...
Influence...
Individual results may vary...
You're still treated the same as when you were a member *takes bribe from a Senior Member* ~;)
Duke John
07-10-2005, 08:13
I'm a Senior Member and when I got the title initially from the moderators it was kinda like a "Thank you" for my modding work and helping out others, the HoF and Edit awards were given for the same reasons (I think). As a moderator I promoted hoggy to Senior Membership for the very same reasons.
The only advantage of Senior Membership is having a bigger PM allowance. There is no increase in status involved since they were already respected by others before being made Senior Member.
Dutch_guy
07-10-2005, 12:37
There is no increase in status involved
really ? I always thought that was what it 's all about ~;)
~:cheers:
:balloon2:
Gawain of Orkeny
07-10-2005, 17:08
There is no increase in status involved
There certainly is or this thread wouldnt exist. The increase in status is in the eyes of the others who post here. I know speaking for myself when I see senior member under someones name their a rational and respectful member of the community of the highest standing . Its just a status that cant be measured in any material way other than your bigger PM box ~;)
Duke John
07-10-2005, 17:38
Its just a status that cant be measured in any material way other than your bigger PM box
You mean, size does matter? ...that was so lame :grin:
edyzmedieval
07-10-2005, 19:58
Being a Senior Member improves your status. You get more respect ~D
And also, being a Senior Member with 2 or 3 Awards is better than being even the Forum Administrator....
doc_bean
07-10-2005, 21:56
Being a Senior Member improves your status. You get more respect ~D
And also, being a Senior Member with 2 or 3 Awards is better than being even the Forum Administrator....
The forum administrators are the Gods of a forum, no mere mortal, no matter how many awards he or she has, can compare to that :bow:
Gregoshi
07-10-2005, 22:51
Being a Senior Member improves your status. You get more respect ~D
Or is it because they already had more respect than most patrons that they got the Senior Membership?
Papewaio
07-10-2005, 23:28
^ Well Gregoshi-sama it seems you may have a fan... :bow:
And also, being a Senior Member with 2 or 3 Awards is better than being even the Forum Administrator....
Well Gregoshi-sama it seems you may have a fan...
~:) at least 2 ~:)
ichi :bow:
The Wizard
07-11-2005, 01:43
See, you folks should all come over to TWC. Any good poster with 100+ posts gets to be a Civitates. ~;)
-Simetrical
Hail to shameless self promotion ~D
But you don't become a Senatorius Vechius like that! I've been there a lot longer than you, youngin', and I don't see me name on the Senatorii Vechii list! ~;)
Wait, having a bigger PM box means your a senior member? I saw my PM box increase from the usual 10 or less (can't quite remember) to 20 recently... so where's me senior membership! :furious3:
~Wiz ~;)
See, you folks should all come over to TWC. Any good poster with 100+ posts gets to be a Civitates. ~;)
-Simetrical Maybe when I advertise my RTW Guide the second time in TWC, it wouldn't be closed because it is an advertisement. ~;)
Being a Senior Member improves your status. You get more respect
Or is it because they already had more respect than most patrons that they got the Senior Membership?
Actually a mix of both of these.
To those who are aware of at least some of the reasons the Senior Member has been given that status there will be no rise in status because that person will already be held in high respect.
For someone who hasn't seen the reasons, it is an indicator that they probably should give the Senior Member some respect.
I saw my PM box increase from the usual 10 or less (can't quite remember) to 20 recently... so where's me senior membership! :furious3:
The reason for limiting things is because the board was shut-off completely in the past as it got too big. Server hardware is better now, the board is better, but the forums are also much bigger than it ever was, more options and more used. In order to keep things rolling, certain options are disabled or limits put in place (the native search function is pretty server intensive, so guests can only use Google and there's a 90 seonds wait for members).
Limiting PM boxes is another way to keep performance fair. As there was a boost in server performance lately (hardware upgrade), all PM boxes were increased.
edyzmedieval
07-11-2005, 10:39
Tosa,
This year, are there gonna be any Hall of Fame's and Senior Member promotions?!
Tosa,
This year, are there gonna be any Hall of Fame's and Senior Member promotions?!
Yes, I think so.
edyzmedieval
07-11-2005, 13:08
Cheers!!!! ~:cheers:
Whopeee!!!!
*calms down after 10 cups of champagne*
SpencerH
07-11-2005, 13:36
It might be fun to have small icons under the locations for the winners, i.e. best spammer for the year gets a can of spam (until next years awards). Hmmm, OTOH that might encourage spamming.
Laridus Konivaich
07-11-2005, 16:05
i.e. best spammer for the year gets a can of spam (until next years awards). Hmmm, OTOH that might encourage spamming.Yes, and encouraging spam is not, I beleive, the goal. Maybe you could call the award, "most despicable spammer of the year," and include with it a higher flood control count (more seconds of waiting), to make the award somewhat of a "dubious honor."
edyzmedieval
07-11-2005, 16:56
My favourite awards:
Hof 2003
Screenshot
Writer
How can you get these?( apart from HoF)
edyzmedieval
07-11-2005, 16:57
BTW,
I have seen Historical Member... Any info on this?!
IIRC Beirut was a senior member before he became a assistant moderator.
That's exactly what I meant, Beirut. ~:)
My nose was clearly in a bad mood. The conspiracy isn't there at all. GAH! I was wrong!
btw Dutch_guy: ik ga die ballon van jou niet quoten, die haal ik er uit! ~:) ~;)
tenslotte is er maar een ballon (ab)user :bow:
Mouzafphaerre
07-11-2005, 20:16
BTW,
I have seen Historical Member... Any info on this?!
.
Custom user title. ~:)
.
Simetrical
07-12-2005, 05:55
Hail to shameless self promotion ~D
But you don't become a Senatorius Vechius like that! I've been there a lot longer than you, youngin', and I don't see me name on the Senatorii Vechii list! ~;)Well, if you asked, you could be made a Patrician, having been a Civitates for just a wee bit longer than two months. Nobody ever seems to read that part of the Syntagma. ~;p I'm not sure if it gets you a bigger PM box, but it might.
Maybe when I advertise my RTW Guide the second time in TWC, it wouldn't be closed because it is an advertisement. ~;) Uh . . . damn. I agree, TWC moderation is often too harsh, alas. But I'm just one in twelve staff, and it's Sulla who has all the power right now. You just wait until tBP and I are the Consuls, then TWC will be perfect! ~D
Limiting PM boxes is another way to keep performance fair.Why do unused PMs inhibit performance? They have to be copied during backup, true, but isn't that a relatively minor thing? If no one reads them, they just sit there. (Also, I'm guessing that for some reason TWC has much better servers, because it has full search enabled and PM box limits in the hundreds while still running smoothly. Presumably they have more ads or something.)
-Simetrical
Byzantine Prince
07-12-2005, 06:47
BTW,
I have seen Historical Member... Any info on this?!
Where?
edyzmedieval
07-12-2005, 08:49
Kraxis....
Historical member.....
therother
07-12-2005, 16:00
Why do unused PMs inhibit performance? They have to be copied during backup, true, but isn't that a relatively minor thing? If no one reads them, they just sit there.Simple answer is that unused PM space does not affect performance. The problem obviously comes when it is used. The size of a database inherently affects forum performance, usually in a non-linear way. FYI, the other base factor in terms of server load is the number of users online at any given time - from what I've seen, this can reach 300+ with the Org (with a 15 minute timeout). Even with some fairly serious hardware, vBulletin boards can get bogged down once they have 7 figure post totals, and can require some involved database management and forum tweaks to keep them running smoothly. Some of the larger boards out there use more than one server to handle the load. The Org has 630,000 posts right now, and that's with some serious pruning over the years, most recently of the Backroom.
Anyway, say every member has a PM storage limit of 200. That, in terms of the database, is essentially 200 posts. There are at least 1000 active members of these forums. That's a potential 200,000 "posts" stored as PMs, adding nothing to the visible content of the forums, but seriously padding the size of the database, therefore adding to possible complications to the running of the forums. For most members there is really very little reason for them to have a large number of PMs, especially as older PMs can very easily be downloaded for local storage.
Is TosaInu perhaps a little conservative in setting limits? Yes, I guess he is. But I'd much rather that than a gung-ho admin who promises more than the Org's server can deliver, and then is forced to pare back things when the forums start going awry.
(Also, I'm guessing that for some reason TWC has much better servers, because it has full search enabled and PM box limits in the hundreds while still running smoothly. Presumably they have more ads or something.)The Org has the board search enabled for all forums except the Backroom, which is over 90% of the board in terms of posts. On the PM thing, members at TWC get 25 PMs in their box, as compared to 20 here, so it's not so much of a difference methinks.
I am not aware of the current setup of either TWC, or the Org for that matter, only that they have different hosts, who appear to take different approaches to hosting game sites. Ogre's Net, TWC's host, seems to take much more of an active interest in the setup and day-to-day running of their sites. OTOH Telefragged, the Org's host, seems not to be so directly involved, beyond setting some basic terms and conditions of service and managing the server. I guess this may well be due to the different circumstances of each board: TWC seems to be, in some respects, run by Ogre's Net, whereas the Org has a greater degree of independence from Telefragged, and is run by TosaInu and barocca. Which setup is better is a matter of opinion, I guess, as both have advantages and disadvantages.
The Wizard
07-12-2005, 20:18
The reason for limiting things is because the board was shut-off completely in the past as it got too big. Server hardware is better now, the board is better, but the forums are also much bigger than it ever was, more options and more used. In order to keep things rolling, certain options are disabled or limits put in place (the native search function is pretty server intensive, so guests can only use Google and there's a 90 seonds wait for members).
Limiting PM boxes is another way to keep performance fair. As there was a boost in server performance lately (hardware upgrade), all PM boxes were increased.
Thought so. No problems with a limited PM box, just inquiring (and fooling around ~;)).
~Wiz
Simetrical
07-13-2005, 05:42
The Org has the board search enabled for all forums except the Backroom, which is over 90% of the board in terms of posts.Oh, really? It didn't used to, did it?
On the PM thing, members at TWC get 25 PMs in their box, as compared to 20 here, so it's not so much of a difference methinks.That's strange. When I joined up, they got 100, and Civitates (akin to Senior Members) 200, and Urbanis Legio (akin to Assistant Moderators) 300. Now all moderators get 400, and new members get 25. Possibly Ogre's Net decided 100 PMs for basic users was too much of a performance hog. I'll ask Sulla—I know there was confusion with PMs during the move to vB (Urbanis Legio getting more PMs than Quaestors).
I am not aware of the current setup of either TWC, or the Org for that matter, only that they have different hosts, who appear to take different approaches to hosting game sites. Ogre's Net, TWC's host, seems to take much more of an active interest in the setup and day-to-day running of their sites. OTOH Telefragged, the Org's host, seems not to be so directly involved, beyond setting some basic terms and conditions of service and managing the server. I guess this may well be due to the different circumstances of each board: TWC seems to be, in some respects, run by Ogre's Net, whereas the Org has a greater degree of independence from Telefragged, and is run by TosaInu and barocca. Which setup is better is a matter of opinion, I guess, as both have advantages and disadvantages.I only wish Ogre's Net would allow us the freedom Telefragged allows the Guild. Half the changes I suggest seem to be shot down by Mithras, even easy and safe things. And changing code in even the most basic fashion, forget about it, only he gets to do it, and he's too busy most of the time. He even removed the damn attachments, one of the best things about TWC as compared to the Guild or other boards.
-Simetrical (quite certain Mithras doesn't come here)
edyzmedieval
07-13-2005, 07:20
I only wish Ogre's Net would allow us the freedom Telefragged allows the Guild. . He even removed the damn attachments, one of the best things about TWC as compared to the Guild or other boards.
See why it's better .Org than TWC?! ~D
I love this forum.....
The Org has the board search enabled for all forums except the Backroom, which is over 90% of the board in terms of posts.
Oh, really? It didn't used to, did it?we did, and then we didn't and now we can again,
we have had a dedicated forum server for some time,
but getting SQL to run correctly on the new server took quite a while
the last forum software we used, the search function used to soak up the CPU very quickly,
the software before that the search database used to soak up the HDD space,
it took some time, in each case, to identify the cause of the "unidentified errors",
finally we have a software package (which we have had to modify a fair bit) that allows a search function without soaking the CPU or the HDD.
the search facilty was under test for an extended period, during which time, unfortunately, we could not enable it for everyone until we were certain the Soak issues had been "modded" out
Search is now enabled and humming along quite nicely
:-)
B.
Simetrical
07-14-2005, 06:40
See why it's better .Org than TWC?!Ah, but the .org still doesn't have attachments, and we now have limited attachments, and a few staff members are pushing for more and better attachments. You just wait, we'll beat you in the end! ~D
-Simetrical
therother
07-14-2005, 08:53
Ah, attachments. They do indeed add much to a forum, especially in the modding forums. Sadly, this is one of those cases where it's good to have a host that's actively involved with the site. Although other Telefragged sites are permitted attachments...
Big King Sanctaphrax
07-14-2005, 10:28
I still haven't figured out why I got made a senior member...I just hung around in the tavern, cracked jokes and posted in the OWS.
Steppe Merc
07-14-2005, 17:19
Speaking of PM boxes, is it weird that mine kept on getting bigger? It used to be 8, now I think its at 20 or something...
Snowhobbit
07-14-2005, 17:35
My PM box is also "limited" to 20, I guess it's a membership privilage expanded.
Sasaki Kojiro
07-14-2005, 18:22
It used to be one. Now that was annoying.
Gawain of Orkeny
07-15-2005, 03:09
I still haven't figured out why I got made a senior member...I just hung around in the tavern, cracked jokes and posted in the OWS.
Its called kissing a$$ ~D
Simetrical
07-15-2005, 07:21
Ah, attachments. They do indeed add much to a forum, especially in the modding forums. Sadly, this is one of those cases where it's good to have a host that's actively involved with the site. Although other Telefragged sites are permitted attachments...Was it Tosa or Telefragged who decided no attachments?
-Simetrical
therother
07-15-2005, 11:19
Only Tosa (or the host) can answer that definitively, as there are many good reasons why Administrators do not allow attachments, from inappropriate content to bandwidth considerations. It may also not be an intentional policy from the host, just a configuration issue with the server. Although the fact that Tosa chose to hack in a custom avatar system that does not require uploads to the board, rather than use the native system which does, is somewhat suggestive.
scooter_the_shooter
07-25-2005, 18:55
I like it the way it is here. I am a senior member at a forum.... but they give it to almost any one who has posted 50 times. It takes all the staus that comes with it.
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