Research for BI

[King of Atlantis]

Well im going to try this again, this thread is not about CA's NEW UNIT.

I think a project should be lead to collect historical data for BI. I will do this anyways to delete fantasy units and try to make maore accurate provinces. This data can then be available for any realsim mod.

[lars573]

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/lars573/Veritech/rome2a.gif

This is the best map of provinces, sorry diocese of the mid dominate I've found.

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/lars573/Veritech/rome1b.gif
If you want provinces this is what you need.

[Mongoose]

true, but just because the roman empire had ~13 provinces doesnt mean they only had 13 cities to manage...

[King of Atlantis]

Ya, thats what i dont like about the new 72 provinces, in rome total war, provinces arnt really provinces, but more important cities and their surronding areas.

[Colovion]

Here's a link (http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRomUnit0100-0PixList.html)

Here are some pretty pictures of the fancy foreigners invading Southern Europe

http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/ralimage/map10bar.jpg

http://www.newgenevacenter.org/our-story/pictures/barbarian.gif

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0101-FallNatGeog.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0107-EmpireMap01AD.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0108-EmpireMap100AD.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0109-EmpireMap200AD.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0110-EmpireMap300AD.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0111-EmpireMap400AD.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0112-EmpireMap500AD.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0113-EmpireMap600AD.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/MedRom0114-EmpireMap700AD.jpg

[Krauser]

I think it would be cool to have only a few regions but instead of one main city in each one have 3-5 cities. There could be a capital city for the province and then some minor cities. All must be conquered to gain control of the whole province.

[King of Atlantis]

impossible for rome total war.

[Colovion]

I think it would be cool to have only a few regions but instead of one main city in each one have 3-5 cities. There could be a capital city for the province and then some minor cities. All must be conquered to gain control of the whole province.

Yes I agree completely.

[King of Atlantis]

anyone want to take up researching a faction?

[King of Atlantis]

alright im bumping this cause now im making a realism mod. I plan on probably doubling the cities. So please send in some info.

[lars573]

Biggest things that spring to my mind are you have to put in Ravenna and Venice. Ravenna because it was the Capital of the western empire in the BI time frame, before that it was Milan. Venice you have to put in because it was founded around that time too.

[King of Atlantis]

Alright sounds good, but do you know if these have been included. I will ofcourse be modding the Bi map to make a lot less work


except i *might* just redo MM now, but im not sure it would be compatible with BI.

But thanks, info is good, i hope to have tos by the time Bi is out, so this mod can come out quick

[Colovion]

alright im bumping this cause now im making a realism mod. I plan on probably doubling the cities. So please send in some info.

maybe you can help these guys (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=70) :balloon2:

[King of Atlantis]

This project is for BI, which EB probably isnt going to do. Plus the whole point of my mod will be to try and get out nice and quick where as the big mods will probably take a while.

[lars573]

Another thing I can think of would be the difference between a western and eastern commentines.

Western commentiens
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/lars573/Veritech/1106_face.jpg

Eastern commentiens
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/lars573/Veritech/1308_face.jpg

[King of Atlantis]

lars573, want to join the mod for reseach info?

As for unit research that will be last as new units will come in a latter version

[Shaun]

also, in BI lybia is just 1 prov, meaning that the east will control roght up to carthage, or the west will control right up to egypt.

[King of Atlantis]

have you guys seen a map of Bi or is this from the text files of the demo? And yes Bi will need many more province, probably double

[lars573]

lars573, want to join the mod for reseach info?

As for unit research that will be last as new units will come in a latter version
Maybe give me some examples of things you need info on and I'll see what I can devine from the palantir.

[King of Atlantis]

Okay well things to reasearch:

Well, what i plan on doing is asking each team member to do some historical research on a certain faction and composing their info in a thread at my forum. This of course will be do a couple weeks before Bi comes out so no need to rush or what not. After provnices units will be researched, but mainly just as stat readjustments. Also units like priest will be taken away. So if you want to help with any of those things it would be cool.

I would also ask that all this disscusion be moved to the workshop(Realism Invasion) as this is no longer just collection, it will be a mod, and then the mods can close this cause i dont want to break org rules :bow:

[lars573]

Ok, but where is this workshop that you speak off?

[Shaun]

well i have the BI map!

[King of Atlantis]

The mod workshop(or forge), under RTW development. Sorry i thought the name was workshop :bow:


well i have the BI map!

how and could you send it to me or show a pic?

[Probus]

Shaun,

I have one low resolution screenshot of the BI Map, can you post an image of the BI Map you have?

Thanks

[Shaun]

im sorry, but i cannot post the BI map
a)i dont have a scanner
b)its from a magazine
btw, its 2 pages big, and gives the location of cities and ports!

[King of Atlantis]

ah, so its in pcgamer?

[Shaun]

yes, it sure is! btw, it dosent tell me what the provs and cities are called, but it does tell me what faction owns what prov!

[King of Atlantis]

Hey could you tell me all the starting factions?

[Shaun]

the starting factions are:
(playable)
Eastern roman empire
Western roman empire
Huns
Goths
Saxons
Franks
Allemani
Sassanids
Vandals
Saramatians

(non-playable)
Celts
Berbers
Western roman rebels
Eastern roman rebels
Slavs
Romano-brits
Hope this helps!

[IliaDN]

the starting factions are:
(playable)
Eastern roman empire
Western roman empire
Huns
Goths
Saxons
Franks
Allemani
Sassanids
Vandals
Saramatians

(non-playable)
Celts
Berbers
Western roman rebels
Eastern roman rebels
Slavs
Romano-brits
Hope this helps!
S@#t! Why slavs are non-playable?! :furious3: It means they may lack units for example like Thracia or Dacia.

[King of Atlantis]

It helps alot, but since you have a map can you say wich ones begin with provinces. All of them except for these

Western roman rebels
Eastern roman rebels
Romano-brits
?

[Shaun]

well . as i said it dosent tell any names. but i can tell how much provs a faction starts with, roughly(the faction description points to the capitol, and since there are so few provs most factions will start with onlt 1 prov)

[King of Atlantis]

well i mean like they, roman-british are like roman rebels right, meaning they dont start with any provinces.

[Shaun]

well the romano-brits arent even a starting faction, i think(the romano-brits only came to be a faction after romes legions pulled out in 407AD). But, if the romano-brits are a starting faction, they will control briton!

[King of Atlantis]

yeah thats what i was asking, research will only be for starting factions.

[Shaun]

and what kind of reaserch do you plan?

[King of Atlantis]

extensive reasearch for each faction, like land they owned, major cities, and their armies, etc..

If you want to help come join the mod.

[Shaun]

well i cant help, because i dont actually know anaything, have enough time and so on.......

all that i have is a map of the BI provs and cities(no names), and the playable factions capitols.

[Probus]

Is the 2 page BI Campaign Map picture in the Sept issue of UK PC Gamer, the one with the demo on the cover disk?

Thanks for any info'

[Shaun]

Is the 2 page BI Campaign Map picture in the Sept issue of UK PC Gamer, the one with the demo on the cover disk?

Thanks for any info'
yes, it is.