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_Mithrandir_
07-26-2005, 23:17
Greetings all from my first post, I'm not the "usual" Mithrandir in this forums, some moderator stealed my nick (jejeje ~:confused:), but since I'm Mithrandir a log ago on other forums I decided to pirate the nick here :-P (sorry)

I'm in a big trouble, my children are all girls!, all children of the family are gilrs or old single females (only 1 year-old boy with like 10 gilrs). The old ones must be really ugly, because they don't catch any houseband and if some gets closer he's a 50 years-old loser with one star... just for dignity I keep them away.

My governors are getting old and no one seems to be there to replace them.

I'm thinking to bribe rebel generals and put them to govern a Metropoli (the biggest city, my game is in Spanish and don't know the exact english traduction), so a few turns after he must get some good retinue since the Ludus Magna must give him good ones (I guess!)

Is this totally nuts or you think that may work?

PS. Bribe an enemy member is the same as all the new ones I've seen recently are guys with no traits at all.... and are much more expensive.

Kagemusha
07-27-2005, 01:03
I also play that way that i fallow AI characters.There is nothing stupid in bribing enemy family members.Just dont leave them near your borders because they are easily bribed back. :bow:

pezhetairoi
07-27-2005, 01:08
but only if you're playing on very hard strategy map. No one ever bribes my generals away once I bribe them over to my side in the game because I bribe all their diplomats too :)

Kagemusha
07-27-2005, 01:14
but only if you're playing on very hard strategy map. No one ever bribes my generals away once I bribe them over to my side in the game because I bribe all their diplomats too :)

Thats just nasty. :whip:

_Mithrandir_
07-27-2005, 15:45
but only if you're playing on very hard strategy map. No one ever bribes my generals away once I bribe them over to my side in the game because I bribe all their diplomats too :)Hahaha, good method... but since I finish every turn with 100-1000 denarii (70k denarii income per turn, but try to stay below of 50k per turn to avoid corruption traits) is not a viable way to me :)

I'm thinking in bribe rebel generals instead of enemy family members (in any case they don't have traits nor retunue either) and are much cheaper... and the young trait&retinue-free family members are my assasins playground ~:)

Any of you have ever used rebel generals as governors for big cities?

Deus ret.
07-27-2005, 18:38
yes, preferably for those with an academy or better. They will gain some nice retinues quickly....

Deus ret.
07-27-2005, 18:45
I also play that way that i fallow AI characters.There is nothing stupid in bribing enemy family members.Just dont leave them near your borders because they are easily bribed back. :bow:

AFAIK they aren't because once family members are bribed away from a faction, they are outcasts; this prevents their original faction to get them back. At least I failed when I tried to.... of course, your newly-acquired family members still can be bribed by a third faction.

Malrubius
07-28-2005, 16:47
You should let your daughters marry whoever wants to marry them, so it will pave the way for the younger daughters to get married to better generals. A bad general can be used for something, and might even have some good children.

Shadar
07-30-2005, 14:57
i tend to just assassinate all the enemy diplomats around me.. much easier because i honestly don't need that many diplomats!

maybe try putting more generals into governing cities? I found that it was VERY hard to get more heirs when i was playing poor factions which require you to put almost all your generals into your army to buff it up a little. I reckon you should just call off your attacks and bunker down for 10-20 years.. that should hopefully give you the required heirs you need. If not, just accept all marriage proposals from suitors out of desperation....

Slug For A Butt
07-31-2005, 03:14
Mithrandir, I tend to find that whenever you get very low on family members, a few good battles using some leaderless armies is great. I have always got many MOTH offered to me when I am low on family members, it just keeps offering them to you until you get a reasonable number of them.
Try recruiting some crappy units to go and fight rebels, that seems to work well for me.

_Mithrandir_
08-01-2005, 23:09
Thanks.

I'm accepting the old-losers to marry the single females of my family (many of them really old, I married a 48 years old single girl). I even just accepted a 56 years old guy. I'll using them to carry all crappy retinues and go to put watch towers on the borders of the just conquered egypt and seleucids.

I'll try too to use more leaderless armys, specially against the rebels... I'm getting tired of bribing them, specially those middle-east tribes that only want very high denarii ratios! :furious3:

Thanks