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well seeing as we have the conservatives, the lefties etc, thought why not have a place for the christian community to get together at the org and discuss things.
Criteria: you must beleive that christ has died for your sins, and we are forgiven, leading to eternal life with God when this life comes to an end.
Aim: to discuss life as a christian, share whats happening in the world, discussing things from a christian veiwpoint and getting to know each other, and also to help each other through any struggles or hardships
Just a request to moderators, please delete any anti-christian BS, its not welcome, we arent here to impose this that or whatever, we are here cus we have a common interest, and if people want to flame they can take that someplace else
(scrapping the members list for now)
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 18:19
What is the criteria for joining this club? Do you have to believe that Christ is the savoir of mankind or is believing in his teachings and acting like a christain good enough?
scooter_the_shooter
08-09-2005, 18:21
what is the criteria, I try to follow the bible but I am not always very succesful :embarassed:
criteria is that you believe that christ has come as the saviour of mankind, that we might have eternal life
the rest (acting christian etc usually comes with that, but like all of us we struggle)
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 18:25
Oh well then I guess I dont qualify.
Ser Clegane
08-09-2005, 18:26
Just a request to moderators, please delete any anti-christian BS, its not welcome
Trolling and/or baiting will be treated appropriately - no matter whether it comes from a Christian or from a non-Christian.
There will be no posting restrictions for non-members though, but I expect everybody to respect the intentions of this club/thread
Don Corleone
08-09-2005, 18:43
Well, Alrowan, I DO believe that Christ is the savior of the world, and I DO believe He saved me, personally. But I don't know if I buy that you cannot call yourself a Christian if you don't believe that. I know that's what the evangelist branch of Christianity believes, but all things being equal, I think it'd be more important to include people in a discussion about Jesus then excluding them. If people are curious, but haven't been saved, why turn them away?
What are your views on salvation? Do you take a 'faith alone' perspective, like the Baptists? That even John Wayne Gacey, who claimed to accept Christ while in prison, was saved? I don't. It must be that Catholic upbringing (I'm Methodist now) but I just cannot accept that a God who is infinite justice would reward a sadistic SOB like that. I believe Christ earned you your salvation, but if you're not careful, you can un-earn it. I lean more towards the teachings of St. Peter over St. Paul (and even St. Paul has some writings where he admonishes us that continuing to live as the slaves of sin after accepting Christ leads to the final end of a slave of sin). Thoughts?
scooter_the_shooter
08-09-2005, 18:45
Well i guess I will join but not all my views are very christian,(example I want the death penalty for burglars rapist muderers etc)
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 18:47
Well i guess I will join but not all my views are very christian,(example I want the death penalty for burglars rapist muderers etc)
You dont think that the death penalty for burglary is a bit extreme? ~:eek:
, I think it'd be more important to include people in a discussion about Jesus then excluding them. If people are curious, but haven't been saved, why turn them away?
Here Here. I believe in Christs teachings but Im not convinced he was God . What does that make me?
Don Corleone
08-09-2005, 18:50
Being a Christian is a very personal thing. Christ himself never actually used that exact term, though He did talk about His followers at several points. I think we all fall short of that mark, though He said we would, and it was the trying that was important.
In any case, I don't think any person can tell another they are or are not a Christian. To steal a line from the Matrix, it's like being in love. Actually, it is being in love, but a different sort of love (love of God & love of fellow man verus love of a woman). But only you and Jesus know what sort of relationship the two of you have, and I think it's dangerous for anyone to go telling another somebody else they're not a real Christian. Something about millstones.... ~;)
well as far as people posting, anyone is free to join in, also Don Corleone the fact that you accept christ as your saviour is the essense of christianity, therefore elliglble enoguh to be a member of the "club" so to speak
and ceasar, as for you, thats fine that you believe that, it might not be in line with christs teachings, but perhaps you are still learning forgivness, heck it is hard
scooter_the_shooter
08-09-2005, 18:53
Well think about it. I know a few people whose house was robbed they don't even feel safe in there own homes they feel violated and that will be with them for the rest of their lives. Maybe death is extreme, But I do know that we aren't near as harsh as we should be on burglars.
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 18:53
Don your posts keep getting better and better. I will put money on it right now that you would or should be made a senior member in the near future. To think og it having a Godfather as one of our most respected members. What will become of us? ~:)
Here Here. I believe in Christs teachings but Im not convinced he was God . What does that make me?
ok here is a quick convincing, if you beleive in christs teachings, when he admits being the son of god, if you accept his teachings as truth, then you will have to accept this.. well thats the short of it, what it comes down to is faith, heck we all need more faith, pray maybe for understanding and insight, might help out in understanding this and accepting it as well
edit:
ack re-read, you had trouble accepting he WAS god, yeah thats a tough one, but same advice goes as what i posted, i guess pray/talk to others for understanding/knowledge
Byzantine Prince
08-09-2005, 18:56
But only you and Jesus know what sort of relationship the two of you have
~:eek:
well as far as people posting, anyone is free to join in
Can I join? It'll be like the old days. ~;)
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 18:57
ok here is a quick convincing, if you beleive in christs teachings, when he admits being the son of god, if you accept his teachings as truth, then you will have to accept this.
How so? I also believe I am the son of god? But I am no god.
~:eek:
Can I join? It'll be like the old days. ~;)
is christ your saviour ~;)
i said anyone can join in the conversations, bu please be open minded and accept that the group here does have a common belief
How so? I also believe I am the son of god? But I am no god.
ahh here is a nice deep conundrum, in accepting christ as saviour we are aopted as Gods children, and we live IN christ, and Christ IN us, we are temples for him, and are filled with the Holy Spirit. Now there is a point someplace in the bible where it does state we are seated with christ in heaven at the right hand of the father, but it gets confusing, even for a christian of 10 years
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 19:01
Then it should be called the evangelists club not the christain club.
Don Corleone
08-09-2005, 19:04
ok here is a quick convincing, if you beleive in christs teachings, when he admits being the son of god, if you accept his teachings as truth, then you will have to accept this.. well thats the short of it, what it comes down to is faith, heck we all need more faith, pray maybe for understanding and insight, might help out in understanding this and accepting it as well
edit:
ack re-read, you had trouble accepting he WAS god, yeah thats a tough one, but same advice goes as what i posted, i guess pray/talk to others for understanding/knowledge
He said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. He who believes in Me will never die". He also said "Nobody can get to the father but through me". While both of those statements make it clear that He is declaring Himself to be part of the Trinity (well, actually, the Trinity is a human construct, God simply IS) but nowhere in that did He say "You must believe that I am the son of God". He just says that He is.
As a matter of fact, He said the two most important things in life didn't even concern Him: "Love the Lord God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. And love your neighbor as you love yourself". Nowhere did He say "and make certain you shun people who claim I wasn't divine". In fact, He even said "Those who speak against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but those who speak against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven". That makes perfect sense, as the Holy Spirit is, for lack of a better definiton, the physical and spiritual embodiment of God's love. To blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, you would have to teach that God doesn't love His children, and that would be pretty unforgivable in my book.
scooter_the_shooter
08-09-2005, 19:05
Is this a place for catholics methodist baptist etc or just for evangelists. ~:confused:
its for christians from all walks...
ie those who have accepted christ as thier savior (the rest is just down to interpretation, but that is the clinchpin of it all)
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 19:12
ie those who have accepted christ as thier savior
So this is what now constitues a christain? I think Don pretty much disproved that. Statements like your nave made my deny my christianity and have driven many others from this religion.
Sjakihata
08-09-2005, 19:12
I believe in Christs teachings but Im not convinced he was God . What does that make me?
Muslim!
So this is what now constitues a christain? I think Don pretty much disproved that. Statements like your nave made my deny my christianity and have driven many others from this religion.
according to the Bible, if one does not accept Christ's death as a substitute for one being eternally damned to Hell - as payment for one's sins - then one is not Christian
original poster has the right idea with his club. it's pretty low for everyone to criticsize him for that. accepting what he has stated is essential to being Christian
Don Corleone
08-09-2005, 20:17
Navaros, where exactly does Jesus say if you don't believe He was your personal savior, you are condemned to Hell? And I'm not criticizing anybody, I take a different view of what it means to be a Christian than Alrowan and you do. I suggest you go back and re-read Matthew 5:43-47. Might offer some insight on what He had to say on the matter.
Other passages that deserve more than a passing glance:
Matthew 7:1-5
Matthew 9:12-13
Mark 9:42
Goofball
08-09-2005, 20:54
Being a Christian is a very personal thing. Christ himself never actually used that exact term, though He did talk about His followers at several points. I think we all fall short of that mark, though He said we would, and it was the trying that was important.
In any case, I don't think any person can tell another they are or are not a Christian. To steal a line from the Matrix, it's like being in love. Actually, it is being in love, but a different sort of love (love of God & love of fellow man verus love of a woman). But only you and Jesus know what sort of relationship the two of you have, and I think it's dangerous for anyone to go telling another somebody else they're not a real Christian. Something about millstones.... ~;)
Somebody gimme hallelujah!
I have to tell you Don, I admire that point of view.
If all Christians shared such an unjudgmental, tolerant attitude (and don't get me wrong, I know plenty of other Christians who do), not only would we heretics/agnostics/atheists/whatever-you-want-to-call-us's have very few things to criticize you about, but you'd probably even convince a good many of us to join the flock.
:bow:
Al Khalifah
08-09-2005, 21:17
A good club, but then again Christianity itself is a good club to be a part of.
I do not regularly attend Church and although I am baptised and confirmed by the Church of England, I do not consider myself to belong to any particular denomination of Chrstianity. I'd rather just consider myself a Christian.
My belief in the Bible stands that it is as an extended metaphor. The stories are all most likely based on truth, although the actually events themselves may have been simplified or mystified to increase their likelyhood of being remembered. I believe that Jesus was a real person and that he was a spiritual teacher, who was crucified for his radical beliefs by the Romans and was not protected because his views did not conform to the Jewish expectation for their messiah. Again, as a student of history, I know he was not born in 0 A.D but probably half a century later - this fact does not shake my belief in the message. The message is good and true.
My non-denominational Christian belief also extends to Jews and Muslims, we are brothers and have the same message, just told in a different way.
Kagemusha
08-09-2005, 21:18
I dont think i qualify in this club.And i think highly about Christian values like mercy.But i dont believe in single religion over any other.I think that Jahwe, Allah,Christ and Buddha are really the same God.Who is one and sametime all. :bow:
Al Khalifah
08-09-2005, 21:19
And i think highly about Christian values like mercy.But i dont believe in single religion over any other.I think that Jahwe, Allah,Christ and Buddha are really the same God.
I am a Christian and I feel the same.
ICantSpellDawg
08-09-2005, 21:20
Here Here. I believe in Christs teachings but Im not convinced he was God . What does that make me?
probably less christian than a muslim
even many of them say that he was a prophet
ICantSpellDawg
08-09-2005, 21:23
Again, as a student of history, I know he was not born in 0 A.D but probably half a century later - this fact does not shake my belief in the message. The message is good and true.
a half century later?
can you give me a credible link of this serious claim?
Don Corleone
08-09-2005, 21:26
Actually, based on His being born during the Augustinian census, He would have been born between 7 and 4 BC. And there was no '0 AD'. It went from 1 BC to 1 AD. 1AD means anno dominai, year of our Lord, not after death.
Kagemusha
08-09-2005, 21:28
I am a Christian and I feel the same.
Im also a christian,evangelic Lutherian. :bow:
ICantSpellDawg
08-09-2005, 21:28
Actually, based on His being born during the Augustinian census, He would have been born between 7 and 4 BC. And there was no '0 AD'. It went from 1 BC to 1 AD. 1AD means anno dominai, year of our Lord, not after death.
some historian you are, al...
so, lots of religius folks in one place, got some question;
How do you defend the formation of a christian church when Jesus never said himself that a church should be founded in his and "the fathers" name?
How do you defend the overwhelming wealth of the churches (specially the catholic) when self sacrifice and helping the poor to a large extent is the greatest way of showing your faith?
It is easier for a Camel to go through the eye of a needle then for a rich/wealthy person to enter heaven. Your Jesus said that, what do you make of it?
I have no intention to bash your religion, just want to know what you think. :bow:
Strike For The South
08-09-2005, 22:19
May i join i beilve im a christian (does southern baptisit count ~D ) i would like to be part of this
PanzerJaeger
08-09-2005, 22:25
Hey Alro, long time. ~:wave:
Do you play any games anymore?
rasoforos
08-09-2005, 22:28
If this can be of any help, I dont want to sound arrogant:
Please try not to be intollerant of eachother. This thread looks more like different Christian dogmas fighting for dominance than a Christian club. Find peace and tollerance among yourselves and then embrace the rest of us :bow:
Something, with all due respect, from a non Christian. Hope it helps.
Don Corleone
08-09-2005, 22:46
so, lots of religius folks in one place, got some question;
How do you defend the formation of a christian church when Jesus never said himself that a church should be founded in his and "the fathers" name?
Do the words "Peter, you are my rock, and upon you I will build my church" ring a bell?
How do you defend the overwhelming wealth of the churches (specially the catholic) when self sacrifice and helping the poor to a large extent is the greatest way of showing your faith? I cannot. This is one of several important reasons I am no longer Catholic. I personally don't want to wake up to find myself at Judgement Day, and look at Jesus and say "Uh, yeah, about helping poor people.... I always meant to get around to it". If you also believe in ending poverty, and not just flinging mud, skip your next Friday night out and send the money here: Ending Hunger, one cow at a time (http://www.heifer.org)
It is easier for a Camel to go through the eye of a needle then for a rich/wealthy person to enter heaven. Your Jesus said that, what do you make of it? No man can serve two masters. He will come to love one and hate the other. If you give yourself over to the pursuit of wealth, you will find it impossible to follow the teachings of Christ. I agree with this, and I'd hardly call myself rich or dedicated to worldly wealth. Other than implying otherwise, what's your point?
ICantSpellDawg
08-09-2005, 23:29
No man can serve two masters. He will come to love one and hate the other. If you give yourself over to the pursuit of wealth, you will find it impossible to follow the teachings of Christ. I agree with this, and I'd hardly call myself rich or dedicated to worldly wealth. Other than implying otherwise, what's your point?
i have never taken the camel analogy to mean "people should never be rich"
i have always taken it to mean that a camel going through the eye of a needle will pass through more easily without hefty, gold filled saddlebags on its sides
or more accurately - wealth doesn't follow you into heaven
to pass through the needle you must leave it behind
in addition, spending ones life in pursuit of wealth tends to lead to an ignorance of altruism. massive amounts of wealth, while not necessarily so, tend to show a priority of self-service.
i don't believe that the bible really has anything against wealth in general. modesty it is big on, but you can be wealthy and modest if you are a good and gifted person.
Gawain of Orkeny
08-09-2005, 23:33
Do the words "Peter, you are my rock, and upon you I will build my church" ring a bell?
But does he mean literally ? I dont believe so.
Matthew 6:25-34 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
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Do Not Worry
25"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life[a]?
28"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Jesus careed not for wordly things ike a church. His words are the church that carry on in his spirit. His words are what he wanted us to believe and spread. I think he would be appalled at most christains today and the churches. Most of all those rich bastards on TV. He says if you lead a good life all will be provided for you. This world is not important enough to even worry about.
ok here is the long short of it
Jesus came into the world not to condem the world, but to save the world
so how did he save the world then?
by living and dying as a perfect sacrifice, and raising from the dead 3 days later having conquered sin and death.
In the beginning God created man, but man rebeled against gods commands, and thus Sin was created, and man was pushed forever from Gods side, because they became unclean and unrighteous, and god being holy cannot tollerate unrighteousness.
Yet through the old testament we see God promising to restore mans relationship with god, that we would once again enjoy the prospect of a relationship with him.
Enter Jesus.
Imagine that you have a disease when you are getting off a plane to another country, they quarrentine you, to keep you seperate so as not to spread that disease, and the only way out is to have that disease cured. Thats a bit like how we are with God, we have this diesease called Sin, and because of that we cant gain access to God, though through the cure for the disease (christs death and resurection) we are made clean again, and righteous in gods sight. Jesus came and he took on ALL OUR SIN when he died on that cross because he was RIGHTEOUS and had done no wrong. He paid the price of sin, which is death and damnation that we might enjoy righteousness in Gods eyes and have eternal life.
To not beleive that christ has died for you, for your sins and for mankinds sins, is to reject the gift that God has offered us all, so freely and so full of grace, and thus reject God himself. So to call onself a christian, you must beleive that jesus has died for our sins, and that through him we are made righteous. Thats not a bad deal if you ask me too, seeing as the alternative isnt very pleasant at all.
Jesus died for EVERYONE, not just me, or a select few, heck St. Paul was a murderer, a mass murderer and look what Gods love did for him, and through paul Gods word was able to reach thousands.
Gawain of Orkeny
08-10-2005, 01:53
To not beleive that christ has died for you, for your sins and for mankinds sins, is to reject the gift that God has offered us all,
I dont reject that. I just dont BELIEVE he was god no matter how hard I try. Or as much as I wish . Its not that simple. You cant make yourself believe things. Your just fooling yourself then. Do I think he may have been or that it is likely he was. In that case my answer is a clear yes. What I think and what I believe are not always the same.
The same goes for evolution. I think its right but I dont BELIVE it is. Its just the best answer we have up until now. In other words Im a Doubting Thomas. ~;)
as for the church, i agree that all of it has become rather polticised and religicised, taking away fromt he basis of it all, faith.
When jesus said to peter "you are a rock.. " he was refferring to the church, but not to the institution of church, rather that "when two or more are gathered in my name, so to am i there" for that is actually correctly what is meant by the term of church. Peters role was to unite christians in fellowship, to give them a sense of one world family, not create a political entitiy, that was done by rome under constantine.
The idea of congregating with other believes was to encourage and support one another, to help eachother grow in thier relationships with christ and to worship him freely. its a lot harder for someone to be alone and struggle with the trials that surround them as compared to someone who has the support of his fellow believers
OT and hey panz, going well, still playing some EQ2, though i might pick up RTW if BI is any good
I dont reject that. I just dont BELIEVE he was god no matter how hard I try. Or as much as I wish . Its not that simple. You cant make yourself believe things. Your just fooling yourself then. Do I think he may have been or that it is likely he was. In that case my answer is a clear yes. What I think and what I believe are not always the same.
The same goes for evolution. I think its right but I dont BELIVE it is. Its just the best answer we have up until now. In other words Im a Doubting Thomas. ~;)
beleiveing jesus is god is confusing, and even most people who accept what christ has done for them struggle with this, even i do. thoughthinking he may have been or likely was is a good step, the believeing comes from faith, faith in God and what his word says, its not so much beleiveing he was god, but having faith he was god i guess, argh its all so confusing still! :dizzy2:
What are your views on salvation? Do you take a 'faith alone' perspective, like the Baptists? That even John Wayne Gacey, who claimed to accept Christ while in prison, was saved? I don't. It must be that Catholic upbringing (I'm Methodist now) but I just cannot accept that a God who is infinite justice would reward a sadistic SOB like that. I believe Christ earned you your salvation, but if you're not careful, you can un-earn it.
What about one of the guys who were crucified next to Jesus? If he should be punished for his "big" sin, shouldn´t everybody be punished for every "little" sin? If you just sin one time in your life but don´t accept Jesus as your saviour, you won´t get to heaven, but if you kill people in masses and come to god in the end, you can be saved. But that does not mean you can fool god by sinning all your life and then coming back in the end to get to heaven, it depends on honesty. God also loves sinners, but he can´t save them because that would not be just, he even loves this guy you are talking of(dunno what he did, but it doesn´t really matter).
I´d even go as far as saying that if someone is afraid of being killed(yes, I admit I am more or less), he´s got a problem, look at Paul, he said several times that he would like to die to get into heaven, he was eagerly awaiting it, but he left the decision to god(suicide is not an option).
:bow:
My $0.02 is that Jesus gave only one commandment which is comparable in importance to those found in Mosaic law: Love one another.
I feel that people who actively strive to love those around them on a day-to-day basis, are the most demonstrative of the Christian ethos.
Maybe it's heretical or baseless or something, but I feel that a just God would look kindly upon someone who lived in this way but had not been exposed to the Gospels, or who was mentally unable to incorporate modern christian dogma. Like Gawain, some people's minds just totally rebel against the idea of Jesus being Divine. I don't blame them in many cases.
What if your only exposure to the Gospel was through some crazy sandwichboard-wearing street preacher, and you dismissed his message (as most people would)? Does that count as "rejecting the Word of God"?
Paul mentions in Romans something to the effect of "those who are outside of the law shall not be judged by it". I take this to mean that God doesn't condemn people purely because of their "ignorance" (meaning lack of knowledge, and not as a slur).
I understand the importance of evangelism in the modern church, but I think that people who simply live lives that are self-sacrificing, and for the benefit of others, are the most "Christian" among us.
If the afterlife isn't some colossal group conscious self-duping (and I don't believe it is), then these are the kind of people who I would expect to be there. After all, they are truly obeying Christ's one commandment.
ICantSpellDawg
08-10-2005, 04:32
My $0.02 is that Jesus gave only one commandment which is comparable in importance to those found in Mosaic law: Love one another.
I feel that people who actively strive to love those around them on a day-to-day basis, are the most demonstrative of the Christian ethos.
Maybe it's heretical or baseless or something, but I feel that a just God would look kindly upon someone who lived in this way but had not been exposed to the Gospels, or who was mentally unable to incorporate modern christian dogma. Like Gawain, some people's minds just totally rebel against the idea of Jesus being Divine. I don't blame them in many cases.
What if your only exposure to the Gospel was through some crazy sandwichboard-wearing street preacher, and you dismissed his message (as most people would)? Does that count as "rejecting the Word of God"?
Paul mentions in Romans something to the effect of "those who are outside of the law shall not be judged by it". I take this to mean that God doesn't condemn people purely because of their "ignorance" (meaning lack of knowledge, and not as a slur).
I understand the importance of evangelism in the modern church, but I think that people who simply live lives that are self-sacrificing, and for the benefit of others, are the most "Christian" among us.
If the afterlife isn't some colossal group conscious self-duping (and I don't believe it is), then these are the kind of people who I would expect to be there. After all, they are truly obeying Christ's one commandment.
i dont believe that it was the "one" commandment
i think that it was a supplement to the previous ten that he adamantly espoused
the "golden" rule was just the one that helped to promote the original 10 so that people didn't get lost in the letter of the law and could better understand the method to the madness
one line is not capable of moral direction in any way
"do unto others..." is very vague and strange
it really depends on "what you would have them do unto you"
i dont believe that it was the "one" commandment
i think that it was a supplement to the previous ten that he adamantly espoused
I say it was Christ's "one", because the ten commandments are attributed to Moses. I'm not suggesting that he didn't agree with following the ten Commandments, but he made it clear that his message superceded the original Mosaic law.
the "golden" rule was just the one that the other original 10 helped to promote
I'm not sure what this means. Could you please elaborate?
one line is not capable of moral direction in any way
This I must disagree with. Whilst there are situations that it can't possibly cover, "Love one another" (whilst sometimes hard to follow) is a pretty easy instruction to understand. Whilst simple, it can provide guidance in a broad range of situations.
"do unto others..." is very vague and strange
it really depends on "what you would have them do unto you"
Now I think you might be hairsplitting. Generally, we humans prefer people to be nice to us, and the instruction is centred around this (pretty obvious) fact.
Regarding the Golden Rule, I think it significant that it features in all major religions around the world. I include the following only as a point of interest:
Baha'i
'Blessed is he who preferreth his brother before himself.'
BAHA'ULLAH, Tablets of Baha'ullah, 71
Buddhism
'Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.'
UDANA-VARGA, 5:18
Christianity
'All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them.'
JESUS, Matthew 7:12
Confucianism
'Do unto other what you would have them do unto you.'
Analects 15:23
Hinduism
'This is the sum of duty: do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.'
Mahabharata 5:1517
Islam
'No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.'
SUNNAH
Jainism
'In happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, we should regard all creatures as we regard our own self.'
LORD MAHAVIRA, 24th Tirthankara
Judaism
'What is hateful to you, do not to your fellowman. That is the law: all the rest is commentary.'
Talmud, Shabbat 31a
Native American
'Respect for all life is the foundation.'
The Great Law of Peace
Sikhism
'Don't create enmity with anyone as God is within everyone.'
Guru Arjan Devji 259, Guru Granth Sahib
Zoroastrianism
'That nature only is good when it shall not do unto another whatever is not good for its own self.'
Dadistan-i-Dinik, 94:5
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