we are going to settle this

[Strike For The South]

~:cheers: I say American Football NC baby The athletes are strong fast tough rabid fans and my state has made it into an instution getting out at 2:30 to play...Excllent ~:cheers:

[Proletariat]

Baseball!

Nothing like the tension mounting watching pitch counts, balls and strikes, substitutions, lefty vs lefty match ups, steals, double steals, bases loaded with two out 3-2 counts, shut outs, leaping catches, drunken fans, bitter rivalries, and statistics, statistics, statistics etc.

[King Ragnar]

I see American Football as Rugby for whimps with all that padding they wear, The other football or soccer beats American football by miles IMO.

[Al Khalifah]

Rugby is best. Then what you Americans would called soccer. Then cricket.

American football is quite cool. Baseball is awful!

[English assassin]

Cricket, seeing as its the ashes at the moment and also it has the decency to go away for half the year unlike football (ie soccer)

American football would be quite a good game if you had never seen rugby (union or league). After rugby its way too stop start. But whatever floats your boat.

[Mikeus Caesar]

I would have voted Cricket, but i hate the fact you americans have stolen our word football, which is a word for a sport involving kicking a ball with your feet and plastered it onto your wussy sport, which is a rip off of rugby, but with all those pads, because your wimps. So i voted for good old British Football, which is the only good football.

Btw, why do you call your sport football when you don't use your feet? That is a complete Oxymoron...

[IliaDN]

"The other" Football ~D

[Ianofsmeg16]

~:cheers: I say American Football NC baby The athletes are strong fast tough rabid fans and my state has made it into an instution getting out at 2:30 to play...Excllent ~:cheers:
I Object to you calling it "The other football" seeing as Football/soccer was invented WAY before American football, like 300 years before

Still i do have to agree, your version is better....soccer sucks! Go BENGALS

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Rugby is good stuff. Soccer is good stuff (love that one announcer ~:) ). Football is good stuff for the 50 minutes they're actually playing out of the 180. Love to watch hurling on the rare occasions its on TV.

For me, however, THE sport is Baseball.

BTW, I define baseball as:

played on a grass and dirt field

wooden bats and leather gloves

no designated hitter

perferably no games before 15 april and none after 15 october

SF

The Phils are only 5 games back...DOOM on the Braves.

[Marquis de Said]

"Real" football, a.k.a. soccer, is the best of the bunch, but if you want the greatest sport on earth, it's definitely ice hockey.

[Azi Tohak]

I'll always prefer the tactics of football over the duels of baseball. Cricket... I just don't understand. And rugby is like football... just without the whole organization thing weighing it down.

Azi

[UglyandHasty]

*cough* Canadian Football *cough*

[Louis VI the Fat]

*whine* *squeak* helmets, protective equipment and blah blah blah


Besides, association football is the chosen sport of God (http://www.zidane.net).

[lars573]

Gah jocks suck
Nuf said.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Nothing comes even close to American football. Its like watching a war for 2 or 3 hours. No other sport has the tactics and strategy of american football . Rugy cant compete with it eother in speed or hard hitting. If american football players didnt wear pads they would kill eachother.

[UglyandHasty]

If american football players didnt wear pads they would kill eachother.

Cant argue with that. NFL also have, in my opinion, the best athetle worldwide. But i enjoy watching the CFL a lot more.

[_Martyr_]

Its a shame Rugby wasnt on the list, I would certainly have voted for it. But out of those, I would say Soccer. American football is way over-hyped! Its like Rugby with all the brilliance sucked out of it, replacing it with stop/start hinderences that remove all fun and tension.

I suppose it just depends what sports youve always been watching though. One thing to note though is that the rest of the world seems to hold football (as in soccer) in the highest importance, while the US doesnt. The World Cup is THE sporting occasion, probably bigger than the Olympics for a lot of people. But not in the US.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Its like Rugby with all the brilliance sucked out of it, replacing it with stop/start hinderences that remove all fun and tension.

I dout you apprecciate the intricacies of American football or if you even realise whats really going on. Every play is a battle in a war. It has ground attack and air attack and the same on defense. It has everything real war has other than the deaths. Its no wonder many of these guys meet at the end of the game and thank the good lord they didnt get hurt with a prayer.

[Al Khalifah]

I'm trying to think of a war that was like American football.... oh I've got it, the Hundred Years War. Long.

[King Ragnar]

So after each game all the player get on there knees and thank god for not dying, lol, and how can it have air attacks?

[Brutus]

The real football of course.



Besides, association football is the chosen sport of God (http://www.zidane.net).
Really? I didn't know he was the father of our saviour (http://www.cruijff.com/) ~D

[Ser Clegane]

For watching I prefer Football and American Football - I like to play Baseball (at least I used to) but for watching I find it to be a tad boring (unless you have something else to do while watching it, like a barbecue ~:) ).

I don't like to watch Cricket but obviously that's mainly because I have no clue about it.

To really appreciate a sport (and to actually be able to judge whether you like it or not) you usually have to be familiar with the rules and its nuances

[_Martyr_]

I dout you apprecciate the intricacies of American football or if you even realise whats really going on. Every play is a battle in a war. It has ground attack and air attack and the same on defense. It has everything real war has other than the deaths. Its no wonder many of these guys meet at the end of the game and thank the good lord they didnt get hurt with a prayer.


Yes entirely, as I said, people will obviously be more fond of sports that they have had more exposure to.

I still fail to see your point though, Rugby has all the things you mentioned (well except for air attack, im not totally sure I follow what you meant with that) and more, and it doesnt have the totally infuriating stop/start thing. Its dynamic, fast, relentless and intelligent.

[Goofball]

Gotta go with baseball. In the immortal words of Susan Sarandon (as Annie Savoy):

"I believe in the Church of Baseball. I've tried all the major religions, and most of the minor ones. I've worshipped Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan. I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I heard that, I gave Jesus a chance. But it just didn't work out between us. The Lord laid too much guilt on me. I prefer metaphysics to theology. You see, there's no guilt in baseball, and it's never boring... which makes it like sex."

[Duke Malcolm]

rugby, then softball.

[Redleg]

Here you go the sport of real men

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Or yet another one

http://www.kaios.com/rodeo/rp/BR13.jpg

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[Duke Malcolm]

Nothing comes even close to American football. Its like watching a war for 2 or 3 hours. No other sport has the tactics and strategy of american football . Rugy cant compete with it eother in speed or hard hitting. If american football players didnt wear pads they would kill eachother.

But Rugby is also like an hour and a half long battle. Each man working together. The vanguard -- the scrum -- is battling for the ball, and is the first defence. If the enemy breaks through, then it is up to the rear guard -- everybody else playing -- to stop them getting through to HQ -- a try.

Rugby is also very violent. I did First Aid with St Andrews Ambulance Service for the High School of Dundee (not my school, but the city's only public school) rugby club. I treated things like a mere concussion, to a broken hand, and a couple of times a broken arm. The commandant told me of once quite recently when someone had an open leg fracture -- the bone was sticking out of the skin.

[Ser Clegane]

American Football all the way. I'm sorry you Europeans don't understand the sport--you'd quickly convert if you spent a week trying to get into it.

I think I have quite a good grasp of the game - while I enjoy watching it, in most cases I would probably still prefer a good Football match

[King Ragnar]

Real (i.e. American) Football. Like Gawain said, it's like watching a war. Every play is an intricately planned battle. These men are huge, and powerful. As has been said, without the pads there would be regular fatalities. There are constant broken bones as it is. It is the ultimate sport, a test of sheer athleticism and teamwork. Soccer comes close--it requires a similar amount of teamwork--but it lacks the brutality of football. Rugby.. eh, Rugby is just a mess.

American Football all the way. I'm sorry you Europeans don't understand the sport--you'd quickly convert if you spent a week trying to get into it.

We do grasp the game because we invented the foundations of it, american football has just had the padding and long breaks added on top of rugby.

[Ser Clegane]

You understand the rules, but do you understand the game? You have to get together with some friends and play a game of American football to truly understand it. A play lasts only 30 seconds or so--usually less--but that's an entire battle right there.

Actually I did have this experience and I used to cheer for our Highschool team (all the way to the Washington State finals in the Kingdome - which they unfortunately lost :cry:)

In addition we have the most popular professional American Football team in Europe located here in Frankfurt.

So I think my connection goes a bit beyond "understanding the rules" - and I'd like to repeat that I tremendously enjoy watching American Football, but in the end it's the traditional Football games I really can get excited about...

[Ianofsmeg16]

Real (i.e. American) Football. Like Gawain said, it's like watching a war. Every play is an intricately planned battle. These men are huge, and powerful. As has been said, without the pads there would be regular fatalities. There are constant broken bones as it is. It is the ultimate sport, a test of sheer athleticism and teamwork. Soccer comes close--it requires a similar amount of teamwork--but it lacks the brutality of football. Rugby.. eh, Rugby is just a mess.

American Football all the way. I'm sorry you Europeans don't understand the sport--you'd quickly convert if you spent a week trying to get into it.
I'm European, and i love American Football...it rocks, do you actually play? cos i play with some friends and i play Tight End (usually defensive but can catch if i want). Its a Great sport and love to watch it...BTW when does season start?

EDIT: i do object to you saying rugby is a mess, have you actually played it? cos in a scrum you need ALOT of teamwork

[t1master]

it's all a bunch of guys in short shorts or tight pants who like touching each other on their bums... ;)

[Big_John]

all sports are good.. hell, i'll even watch golf if nothing else is on. my favorites, atm, are american football, soccer, tennis, and mixed martial arts.

edit: as far as playing (as opposed to watching), nothing beats soccer.. though baskteball comes close.

[Hurin_Rules]

Ice Hockey.

[King Ragnar]

Hey i forgot one Sport UFC, now there is a mans sport.

[dgfred]

Rugby is good stuff. Soccer is good stuff (love that one announcer ~:) ). Football is good stuff for the 50 minutes they're actually playing out of the 180. Love to watch hurling on the rare occasions its on TV.

For me, however, THE sport is Baseball.

BTW, I define baseball as:

played on a grass and dirt field

wooden bats and leather gloves

no designated hitter

perferably no games before 15 april and none after 15 october

SF

The Phils are only 5 games back...DOOM on the Braves.

I have been a Phils fan since the early 70's :embarassed: and hope they
return to playoff contenders asap.
I played HS baseball and football and went on to play baseball in college ~:cool: . I prefer watching football and playing baseball. Soccer involves
too much running and not enough scoring for me. :dizzy2:

[TheSilverKnight]

Saying we're going to settle this when nothing will be settled due to the nature of the .org is quite the paradox.

I enjoy American football, but it's not my favourite sport. Favourite sport is European football, followed by rugby, then cricket.

[Louis VI the Fat]

The real football of course.


Really? I didn't know he was the father of that fine Dutch player (http://www.cruijff.com/) who almost became world champion too ~DWe are all God's (http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/label_france/FRANCE/SPORT/championne/championne.html) children. :book:

[Aenlic]

I think the best sport to watch would be an amalgam of Australian rules football, rugby, hang-gliding, water polo, golf, orienteering, target shooting and the Afghan equestrian sport of buzkashi.

Here's how it would work.

The competition begins in two parts. First there's a scrim where a bunch of aggressive individuals with only parts of their ears remaining attempt to keep each other from gaining control of a little white dimpled ball. At the same time, nearby, a bunch of aggressive and water-logged individuals battle each other trying to toss a long thin club with a wedge-shaped terminus into one or the other team's goal. On a successful goal, a team member oddly clad in mismatched but expensive casual wear grabs the club and runs off to chase the little white dimpled ball which has just shot out of the scrim along with miscellaneous pieces of ear. Now, the oddly clad athlete with the club attempts to strike the ball in such a manner as to make it fly down the field toward another goal. In the air, hang-gliding players battle each other, with the opposing side trying to deflect the ball in flight and the supporting flyers attempting to distract the defending flyers by shooting them with rubber bullets.

Now comes the fun part. The course/field stretches through a mine field, a marsh, some woods, and dangerous cliffs and water traps. The orienteering squad attempts to steer their team member in the expensive casual wear toward the final goal, all the while dodging rubber bullets from the air. As they near the goal, battling groups of horse-riding nomads attempt to gain the advantage. The equestrian team which succeeds in getting closest to the player in the expensive and mismatched casual wear smack him upside the head with a lead-filled blackjack and drag him on the ground while hanging sideways off their saddles toward the other team's goal while the opposing team attempts to steal their casual wear guy back. A successful score entails tossing the limp guy in the casual wear over a goal for points. Then we return to the scrim and water portion of the contest for the next round.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Soccer aka 'real football'.

USA football is boring, with all the small breaks. Baseball is really boring.


all the way to the Washington State finals in the Kingdome - which they unfortunately lost

Really? That happened to my former HS somewhat recently. Might I inquire as to where you went?

Crazed Rabbit

[Papewaio]

Played Football (Soccer) wing, back and goalie for my school. Plenty of blood noses. Even played a version of Football on ashphalt courts using a tennis ball... plenty of skinned knees.

Played Rugby League at lunch breaks at school and cricket too. Chipped my teeth down to the point that they are level with the rest despite starting at least 3mms longer.

Played Union on the weekends. Wing. Starting playing after a mate got his arm broken by the rest of my mates and said 'This is the game for me.'

Played American Football, Corner Back and Special Teams. Broke my collar bone in two places... but denied the running back his touch down. ~D

I have played both Baseball and Softball (mainly softball as we played mixed teams). Pitcher and fielder... not so good at batting, for some reason I could only really hit balls with a lot of spin on them. :dizzy2:

Played a tiny amount of Aussie Rules. Watched a lot more, great spectator sport.

====

Cricket people do die... check out the amount of padding in Cricket, the hardness of the ball (it is like a field hockey ball (played that too) with a hard ridge) and the speed at which it is bowled.

Rugby Union... the forwards (the stocky, big guys... Orcs) tend to get their necks broken in the scrums.

[Ianofsmeg16]

I'm a Prop!!! i'm gonna get my neck broken!!!!
Yeah i dont understand why people say Cricket is boring, if you watched the last day of the test at Old trafford a couple of days ago, you'd understand why people are nterested in it

[Divinus Arma]

I see American Football as Rugby for whimps with all that padding they wear, The other football or soccer beats American football by miles IMO.

Rugby IS pretty badass. The uniforms suck and look like clowns, but who cares when you can punch somebody in the head while running full speed!

[Taurus]

For me it is a real close call between American Football and "the other" Football. But in the end I choose American Football baby! :bow:

[Proletariat]

Baseball. Now that there's a proper thread, I shall unleash and reiterate.

Soccer and football are more popular than baseball because they are easy to understand. Baseball is the alternative (and maybe Cricket, but I don't live where it's played so I'll never end up giving it a chance).

(All you naughty Americans who are acting as if only you understand this sport need to get over yourselves. Anyone who has the attention span to last a 15 minute quarter can figure the game out. The strategy basically consists of the skill an amateur poker player needs. [They're gonna run? Load the box. They're gonna pass? Dime coverage. Oh, we guessed wrong? Touchdown.])

Football coaches don't even know how to get kicked out of a game properly.



1. Parity — Baseball has it. Football doesn't. Baseball has had five champions the last five years. The New England Patriots have won something like 20 straight Super Bowls.

2. Cheerleaders — Football has them. Baseball doesn't. Never has. Never will. Baseball doesn't need sex to sell its game.

3. Major League Players Association — Unlike football, baseball has a union that's strong and vibrant and watches out for the best interests of its players. There'll never be a salary cap in baseball.

4. Fenway Park — There's a magic there unlike any other place in sports. There's a stateliness that transcends even the special things that have happened there.

5. The Rocket — Every time he walks to the mound, it's an event. At 42, Roger Clemens has 328 victories, 4,317 strikeouts and seven Cy Young Awards. There has never been one like him.

6. Cooperstown, N.Y. — Baseball's Hall of Fame is so splendidly done, it would be special anyplace they put it. But having it in this lovely village enhances what's special. Football can't even come up with a legitimate selection process.

7. Instant replay — Let's stop a perfectly good game for 15 minutes while a guy looks at a television screen to find out what happened. Baseball understands the human element is part of the game.

8. Craig Biggio and Jeff Bagwell — They're beginning their 15th season together. They define professional and performance.

9. Quarterback ratings — Leave it to football to make one of its most important statistics one that almost no one understands.

10. All-Star Game — It's one of the showcase events in sports. It even counts for something. Does football still play the Pro Bowl?

11. Slogans — Football coaches paste them all over their locker rooms as if players have to be constantly reminded that playing hard and being unselfish is important. Most baseball players get it.

12. SBC Park — Stand on the walkway behind the right-field wall and take in the bay, emerald green field, San Francisco skyline and smell of garlic fries. There might not be a better place on earth.

13. Box scores — One of the most important inventions of the last 100 or so years.

14. Overtime games — You mean a coin flip could decide it?

15. Bud Selig — He's the guy in your neighborhood who almost everyone likes. He's revered by players and owners alike for his integrity and toughness. His legacy will include labor peace, wild-card berths, interleague play and record-setting attendance. He'll be the commissioner all future ones will be measured against.

16. Paul Tagliabue — If we admired smugness, we'd make him king of the world.

17. Janet Jackson — You don't have to ask, do you?

18. Dodger Dogs — Research shows they're as close to the perfect food as now exists. And the setting at Dodger Stadium ain't too bad, either.

19. Quarterback school — Is it where you go to finish your degree? Why does the NFL have so many of them? There must be some really dumb quarterbacks.

20. 56 — Every baseball fan knows Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak is the single most unbreakable record in sports. Or maybe it's Ted Williams' .406 batting average in 1941. Or Nolan Ryan's 5,714 career strikeouts. Baseball's numbers are more than just numbers. They shake memories, provide reference points and are unlike those in any other sport.

21. Ticket prices — Take out a second mortgage if you want to see your favorite NFL team. Better yet, come to the ballpark, where there are still good seats for under $20.

22. Milo Hamilton — He's not the radio voice of the Astros as much as he's the background music of our summers. It's the same with Vin Scully in Los Angeles, Marty Brennaman in Cincinnati, Eric Nadel in Texas, Jon Miller in San Francisco and others. They're constant reminders why we love it.

23. Autograph — Baseball players sign 'em almost every day. Football players don't get close enough to the fans.

24. Bull Durham/Field of Dreams — Baseball has inspired wonderful movies. Football has North Dallas Forty.

25. Ballpark nachos — They remain Arlington Stadium's lasting contribution to the game. They have all the basic food groups. Napkins required.

26. Terrell Owens — Baseball would consider him a bore. Football sees him as a cult hero.

27. Billy Wagner — He's 5-9 and throws 100 mph. Next.

28. September — There's nothing like the grinding, relentless pressure of a pennant race. The season rides on almost every pitch. The players are physically spent and mentally exhausted, and yet, they remember forever how great it was.

29. Coaches who sleep in their offices — Does it really help? What exactly are you trying to prove? Baseball managers go to dinner, not to the office, after games.

30. The World Series — Nine days. Seven games. Curt Schilling's stitched ankle. Priceless.

[Soulforged]

Nothing comes even close to American football. Its like watching a war for 2 or 3 hours. No other sport has the tactics and strategy of american football . Rugy cant compete with it eother in speed or hard hitting. If american football players didnt wear pads they would kill eachother.

Well now i know from where does that military tradition of USA ~;) .
Of the list i would say fútbol (yes this is how we call it here), but i like Basketball avobe all (why is cricket on the list and not basketball or rugby?).
And i've a question for yankees: Why is that you call your champions "World Champions" when you only play beetween your own people? I mean we breaked your asses on basketball on the Olympics.
Also i see that USA is isolated of the rest of the world respecting sports, you will always find your own sports to be the best because you loose at the rest... ~;)

[Strike For The South]

And i've a question for yankees: Why is that you call your champions "World Champions" when you only play beetween your own people? I mean we breaked your asses on basketball on the Olympics.
Also i see that USA is isolated of the rest of the world respecting sports, you will always find your own sports to be the best because you loose at the rest... ~;)

Because we are thats just how the wrold works and if hate us you are one of these 4 things

1. A terrorist
2. An America hater because we kick as*
3. You just hate freedom
4. A Commie
I love sarcasm yes I do ~D

[Soulforged]

Because we are thats just how the wrold works and if hate us you are one of these three things

1. A terrorist
2. An America hater because we kick as*
3. You just hate freedom

I love sarcasm yes I do ~D

Just as i thought. ~D
But from now own we here will start to say that we are the champions of the world in fútbol and in pato (you don't know this one).
Btw i'm not commie but an anarquist, still come and get me, i will use your M16 to make you a bunch of holes. :charge:

[bmolsson]

Here you go the sport of real men


Always found that interesting. In US it's considered a sport to FALL of a hourse. In Europe you make them jump or compete on a track. Must be a cultural difference...... ~D

[Strike For The South]

Soul you wanna throw down son :charge:

P.S Sorry I thought it was Bmolsson Same avatars :furious3:

[Soulforged]

Always found that interesting. In US it's considered a sport to FALL of a hourse. In Europe you make them jump or compete on a track. Must be a cultural difference...... ~D

Well here we combine the two... ~D :duel:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Also i see that USA is isolated of the rest of the world respecting sports, you will always find your own sports to be the best because you loose at the rest...

Oh really. Another for my silliest things ever said in the tavern

All-Time Medal Standings, Summer Games, 1896-2000

G S B Total
1 United States 872 658 586 2116
2 USSR (1952-88) 395 319 296 1010
3 Great Britain 180 233 225 638
4 France 188 193 217 598
5 Italy 179 143 157 479
6 Sweden 136 156 177 469
7 East Germany (1968-88) 159 150 136 445
8 Hungary 150 135 158 443
9 Germany (1896-64,92–) 137 138 160 435
10 Australia 102 110 138 350

Lose at the rest indeed. No other nation comes close.

[Soulforged]

Well i knew that man, you think i didn't? ~D ...But USA still loses at soccer, rugby, polo...

[Gawain of Orkeny]

..But USA still loses at soccer, rugby, polo...

My My They do?

Also i see that Britain is isolated of the rest of the world respecting sports, you will always find your own sports to be the best because you loose at the rest... ~D

We have too many sports here and of course ares are the best. Again nothing comes close to NFL football. Have any of you actually gone 2 a game and gotten close 2 the field during a game? The sounds are unreal.

[Soulforged]

My My They do?

Also i see that Britain is isolated of the rest of the world respecting sports, you will always find your own sports to be the best because you loose at the rest... ~D

That's not true, i said that basketball was the best.


We have too many sports here and of course ares are the best. Again nothing comes close to NFL football. Have any of you actually gone 2 a game and gotten close 2 the field during a game? The sounds are unreal.

Have you been in a stadium of soccer here and seing everybody sing and scream an getting up on the fences until throwing it down. And then rob (yes rob) the players, it's quite a savage show, at least more savage that any NFL game ~D . You have to come here and go to the stadium of Boca Juniors (specially when it's vs. River Plate), you will notice the stadium vibrate, and i'm talking literally, with all the people screaming, jumping and sometimes fighting the edification vibrates. Advertence: You may be robbed during your visit ~;) .

[bmolsson]

Oh really. Another for my silliest things ever said in the tavern

All-Time Medal Standings, Summer Games, 1896-2000

G S B Total
1 United States 872 658 586 2116
2 USSR (1952-88) 395 319 296 1010
3 Great Britain 180 233 225 638
4 France 188 193 217 598
5 Italy 179 143 157 479
6 Sweden 136 156 177 469
7 East Germany (1968-88) 159 150 136 445
8 Hungary 150 135 158 443
9 Germany (1896-64,92–) 137 138 160 435
10 Australia 102 110 138 350

Lose at the rest indeed. No other nation comes close.

If we take the population in to consideration. US has about 35 times large population than Sweden, which makes it more interesting. Also to note that today parts of 2, plus 3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 are all in EU......

Just for the record..... ~:cheers:

[Redleg]

Always found that interesting. In US it's considered a sport to FALL of a hourse. In Europe you make them jump or compete on a track. Must be a cultural difference...... ~D

Well you are suppose to stay on the damn thing - except the horse doesn't want you to be on its back.

Jumping horses is okay to - my aunt and mom both were accomplished 3-day eventers.

[Soulforged]

Jumping horses is okay to - my aunt and mom both were accomplished 3-day eventers.

Ouch that hurts!! :duel:

[Redleg]

Ouch that hurts!! :duel:

I am no slouch in ridding and jumping horses myself - but no where near the class of my mother or her sister. Back in the 1960's my aunt made the final round for the US Olympic Team - unfortunely her horse took a spill and they had to put it down.

[King Ragnar]

Again nothing comes close to NFL football. Have any of you actually gone 2 a game and gotten close 2 the field during a game? The sounds are unreal.

Im sure a Football game(proper football) would beat an NFL game by miles, the sound would be far better, also Gawain i still dont know how you can describe a NFL game like a war ~:confused:. Also the Premiership in England is the best league in the world, it has fans from everywhere.

[Sjakihata]

I know the game very well. Been watching it for more than 3 years now - occasionally play it (or a lighter version of it) with my friends and I've got Madden NFL on the pc too.

But still, football beats american rugby ~;)

[Ianofsmeg16]

Y'know this is just turning into another "We're better than you!" threadThe Americans Say the USA kicks everyone but all the other countries are saying the same thing about THEIR country, this isn't about sport, this is about politics.

Yet another innocent thread hacked into by politics :stop: ~:doh:

[King Ragnar]

I know the game very well. Been watching it for more than 3 years now - occasionally play it (or a lighter version of it) with my friends and I've got Madden NFL on the pc too.

But still, football beats american rugby ~;)

Lol American Rugby ~D

[Duke Malcolm]

My My They do?

Also i see that Britain is isolated of the rest of the world respecting sports, you will always find your own sports to be the best because you loose at the rest... ~D


So do you. American and Australian football and rugby are all just bastardised versions of football, invented in the town of rugby in England.

[Ser Clegane]

Really? That happened to my former HS somewhat recently. Might I inquire as to where you went?


I went to Juanita High in Kirkland - quite some time ago (1986).

IIRC we lost the final to Gonzaga Prep that year.

[edyzmedieval]

All suck....

Basketball rulzzz.....

[Gawain of Orkeny]

So do you. American and Australian football and rugby are all just bastardised versions of football, invented in the town of rugby in England.

Again check the olympic stats. We rule all of sports while you are only good at the ones you invented. ~;)


Have you been in a stadium of soccer here and seing everybody sing and scream an getting up on the fences until throwing it down. And then rob (yes rob) the players, it's quite a savage show, at least more savage that any NFL game

Yes the crowd is but not the players. Bye the way I played on a championship soccer team in HS. We came in second in the state. I know all about soccer. Its a great game and takes much more stamina than football as you never get a break espically playing a forward like it did. But football is far more physical a game.


Im sure a Football game(proper football) would beat an NFL game by miles, the sound would be far better

What sound? Soccer is silent compared to football.


also Gawain i still dont know how you can describe a NFL game like a war

Then again I suggest you have no grasp of football. The coaches maje up a war plan. They study the enemies forces and how they use them and come up with both a defense and an offense to take advantage of this. Every play is drawn out and practiced just like we practiced for d day. There is the ground attack of the half backs and fullbacks and sometimes the quarterback. Theres the aerial attack of the OB and the recivers. Then theres the real war in the trenches and thats exactly what its called. In every way football can be compared to war.

[scooter_the_shooter]

WE ALL know IDPA is the most fun and hardest sport......(I suck at it though....I lose....every time)



But sense most here do not know what it is(and it is illegal in many countries :embarassed: ) and those that do probably do not think it is a sport :dizzy2: I will have to say that basket ball is the best ~:cheers: No normal sport can beat basket ball.


(here is idpa)

http://www.idpa.com/

PS please don't start debating wether this sport should be allowed or not.

[Duke Malcolm]

You know what else is a good sport? Shinty. And can be damned violent, too.

[Ser Clegane]

You know what else is a good sport? Shinty.

Shinty? ~:confused:

Is that something naughty?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

"The REAL" football.

[BDC]

Cricket is good for the lazy ones (like me) who field miles out on the side the ball never gets hit to. It's ideal for games lessons. Until you are actually expected to wake up and catch it...

[Duke Malcolm]

Shinty? ~:confused:

Is that something naughty?

shinty (http://shinty.com)

[Louis VI the Fat]

WE ALL know IDPA is the most fun and hardest sport......(I suck at it though....I lose....every time)



But sense most here do not know what it is(and it is illegal in many countries :embarassed: ) and those that do probably do not think it is a sport :dizzy2: I will have to say that basket ball is the best ~:cheers: No normal sport can beat basket ball.


(here is idpa)

http://www.idpa.com/

PS please don't start debating wether this sport should be allowed or not.Fantastic! You're even better at bringing up guns no matter what the subject than I am in mentioning France or Navaros mentioning God. :beam:

[scooter_the_shooter]

The way I look at is alot of people always bring up their favorite computer game or what ever is their favorite thing to do.(for example when talking about iraq on here, I have seen people bring total war into it some how!)

With me that is target shooting....if I had to choose between it and total war, total war is gone ~:cheers:

Target shooting is the most addicting thing you will ever try (if you do try it, and I suggest you do!)

[Marshal Murat]

American Football all the way.
Far more phyiscal than soccer.
I played soccer, and its fun I admit. However, to me it seemed repeditive, and not as thrilling as football.
Football, man, talk about big.
(And the New England Patriots have not won twenty, only five)

The greatest thing about AFootball is that almost every state has a team, and made couple more. Its electrifying here in Tallahassee (FSU!) every game we play. Especailly so when we play Florida and Miami.

Football is great, cause it is all about your strategy.

You got a buncha fast guys, go for a running play.
Good QB, with an eye for a reciever, good senses for pocket, you got a throwing play.
If you got both, then your really good. There is an element of randomness to it, along with strategy.
For example, FSU sometimes plays like this.

Running play, running play, airborne!

Its the perfect center between baseball (real long, with no defined end) and basketball (very fast paced)

Another thing is at the endzone. Especailly third down, on the fifth. You gonna throw? Are you going to run it through the center.

But this is all a waste of cyberspace, because no one will care.
If alot of European (namely British) people log on, then they will no doubt vote EFootball. If alot of Americans log on, then it would be AFootball.

(Also, my money is on Frankfurt this year, but my heritage wants me to root for Claymores)

[_Martyr_]

Why do you NFL lovers seem to think that American Football is the only sport with strategy and extremely complicated set pieces? Believe me, Rugby has a hell of a lot of this too. Look at a line-out, a scrum, a back line manouver... pretty much every part of the game relies on calls and plans from either the scrum half, the hooker, the no 8, or whoever.

[AntiochusIII]

The REAL Football rules over all! The Premiere League is the best thing in the world of sports IMO. Even though those poor English can't beat the Italians in their own games ~;)

NFL got little interest from outside US, probably only in America (cont.) and Japan, while Football - i.e. REAL football, not American version of rugby - has fans all over the world. A glaring proof to its superiority. ~D

[Proletariat]

Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's worthwhile. (cigarettes, fast food, television, soccer, etc)

[_Martyr_]

shinty (http://shinty.com)


Had a quick glance at that website, it looks kind of like Hurling.

If you want a great game, check out Hurling by the way. Its Europe's oldest field game (the Celts brought it to Ireland at least 2000 yeasr ago), and also the fastest in the world. Its basically two teams of 15 crazy Celts armed with large weapon-like devices known as Hurleys and a hard hockey-like ball known as a sliothar, running around a large field beating the living hell out of each other. Your not meant to hit the other guy with your Hurl, only tackle him, but its pretty common, and these guys often dont even wear helmets, hard as nails. There are two goals at either end. A ball over the cross-bar gets one point, under the cross btsar is a goal and that counts as three poin. A player can not carry the ball more than 4 paces, having then to balance it on the stick or pass it. You should give it a watch, its really great. As is Gaelic football! ~:)

[edyzmedieval]

REAL Football( see Premier League and Ajax Amsterdam) and

BASKETBALL

~D

[Devastatin Dave]

They are all very different sports. I'm a huge baseball fan, Atlanta Braves to be specific...

But all the sports listed are great. As long as no one is juiced up and ruining the integrety of their respective sport. I do prefer baseball out of all listed though. Hitting a round ball with a round bat "squarely" while its traveling from 91 to 100 MPH is the hardest thing for a player to do out of all sports in my opinion...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Had a quick glance at that website, it looks kind of like Hurling.

If you want a great game, check out Hurling by the way. Its Europe's oldest field game (the Celts brought it to Ireland at least 2000 yeasr ago), and also the fastest in the world. Its basically two teams of 15 crazy Celts armed with large weapon-like devices known as Hurleys and a hard hockey-like ball known as a sliothar, running around a large field beating the living hell out of each other. Your not meant to hit the other guy with your Hurl, only tackle him, but its pretty common, and these guys often dont even wear helmets, hard as nails. There are two goals at either end. A ball over the cross-bar gets one point, under the cross btsar is a goal and that counts as three poin. A player can not carry the ball more than 4 paces, having then to balance it on the stick or pass it. You should give it a watch, its really great. As is Gaelic football! ~:)


Hey, I'd already put hurling in for an honorable mention above. It really is fun to watch too. You've got a bit of the constant soccer movement thing going on coupled with ripping line drives. All that and they allow a bunch of Irish to "play" while armed with a perfectly lethal weapon. ~:cool: It's no wonder that Setanta's first great victories were on a hurling field!

I still vote baseball, but hurling is no slouch of a game.

SF

[Soulforged]

The REAL Football rules over all! The Premiere League is the best thing in the world of sports IMO. Even though those poor English can't beat the Italians in their own games ~;)

NFL got little interest from outside US, probably only in America (cont.) and Japan, while Football - i.e. REAL football, not American version of rugby - has fans all over the world. A glaring proof to its superiority. ~D

I agree with you, english fútbol is the best ~:cheers: . But the Premier League, isn't, the ambient here is lived like "life & death" thing, it's almost a thrill all the time while you stand on the stadium (you've to watch your pockets too ~D ), there, if it was not, for the hooligans, it would be like a reunion to have some tea. In any case the fact is that between Brazil and Argentina we generate the best players of fútbol ever, and you breed on that. (*cough* Maradona *cough* goal on '66 *cough* english deception ~;) )

[Sigurd]

As far as I can see the pending question is not limited to whats(what’s) better to watch and could as well be interpreted as what’s better to play.

As I have had the fortunate experience of having played all the sports mentioned:
American football: a couple of teams here in Norway and I used to train with the center on Bergen Bulldogs whilst in college.
Soccer the sport where you actually use your feet to some extent: Played actively until High school.
Baseball: I have a bat, glove and ball. Introduced to the game by some Mormon friends and actually tried to organise a local team in Bergen.
Cricket: I used to live in Australia and played some with Australian kids.

Conclusion: Soccer is the most fun sport to play… and hence is the better.

[Louis VI the Fat]

But the Premier League, isn't, the ambient here is lived like "life & death" thing, it's almost a thrill all the time while you stand on the stadium (you've to watch your pockets too ~D )In the Premier League, you get robbed before you've even made it to the stands. Forty quid to see Phil Neville?
Sheer theft I say!


What's the difference between an unmade Airfix model and Phil Neville?

One is a glueless kit.....

[JAG]

Baseball is the best sport the, imo, for the reasons so eloquently put by Proletariat. The statistics most of all really appeal, you can really get into the game.

However if the Red Sox don't get out of this sudden slump of form in a hurry, I may change my mind! GAH! :dizzy2:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

However if the Red Sox don't get out of this sudden slump of form in a hurry, I may change my mind! GAH!

Go Yankees!!!!!! ~;)

[Proletariat]

However if the Red Sox don't get out of this sudden slump of form in a hurry, I may change my mind! GAH! :dizzy2:

They've dropped a few recently, but they've also averaged about 8 runs a game over the last month. Manny and Ortiz are on fire. Schilling returns to the rotation thursday, so there's hope for the pitching staff.

I cannot believe I'm with JAG against GoO for once.

I remember when the Patriots won the Superbowl for the first time a few years ago. All you heard from the New England fans at the end of the game was the chant, "Yankees suck! Yankees suck!" Best baseball fans ever.

[JAG]

I know the run production has been there for the most part, but there are many holes opening up and it is worrying. The bullpen is weak, very weak. Every game you cringe when the ball is handed over to anyone but Timlin, it isn't good.

Yes Schilling back in the rotation Thursday but he isn't the real Schilling yet, it could still go pear shaped. :/

I watch all the Sox games - well a vast majority - via mlb tv, and this road trip has been desperate. Against the Angels our offence has even been very poor, including Manny and Big Papi. Maybe I am just worried about the Yankees creeping ever closer and seemingly playing well.

Anyway, will get easier vs KC. :D

[Proletariat]

I watch all the Sox games - well a vast majority - via mlb tv, and this road trip has been desperate. Against the Angels our offence has even been very poor, including Manny and Big Papi. Maybe I am just worried about the Yankees creeping ever closer and seemingly playing well.

Anyway, will get easier vs KC. :D

I missed today's game because of Fox's idiotic black out policy. (Pay $160 for a season of baseball and they still manage to screw me out of games here and there. F you, Fox.)

One good thing about the Yanks beating up the other Sox is that maybe we can get home cooking through out the play-offs, assuming all goes well. I'll never understand why Theo didn't make a good bullpen acquisition before the dead line. The Sox have a ton of great young prospects and something could've been done. (wishing we had Billy Wagner here)

Anyway, I'm a little tipsy and starting to ramble (hijack). I'm just kinda psyched to see another Sox fan from across the pond.

~:cheers:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Dont let him fool you Prole. He only started watching them because they were called the"RED" SOX. He thought they were a commie team. ~D

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Down with the redsox! Burn the mother******s down! Down I say!
NY METS! NY METS! NY METS! (No surprise, considering I bear the same surname as their most famous catcher) NY METS!

[Gawain of Orkeny]

No surprise, considering I bear the same surname as their most famous catcher)

Your first name is Yogi? ~D

[Kagemusha]

Ice hockey is the best team sport.

[Aenlic]

I still maintain that Australian rules Watergolfhangrugbybuzkashi would be the best team sport and spectator sport.

[Duke Malcolm]

Had a quick glance at that website, it looks kind of like Hurling.

If you want a great game, check out Hurling by the way. Its Europe's oldest field game (the Celts brought it to Ireland at least 2000 yeasr ago), and also the fastest in the world. Its basically two teams of 15 crazy Celts armed with large weapon-like devices known as Hurleys and a hard hockey-like ball known as a sliothar, running around a large field beating the living hell out of each other. Your not meant to hit the other guy with your Hurl, only tackle him, but its pretty common, and these guys often dont even wear helmets, hard as nails. There are two goals at either end. A ball over the cross-bar gets one point, under the cross btsar is a goal and that counts as three poin. A player can not carry the ball more than 4 paces, having then to balance it on the stick or pass it. You should give it a watch, its really great. As is Gaelic football! ~:)

shinty and hurling are one and the same, shinty is just the Scottish name for it, and the sticks are called camans in shinty, methinks. I enjoyed watching Donegal try to get to the Gaelic football Ulster final last year, it was a good game.

[Devastatin Dave]

Go Yankees!!!!!! ~;)

If you don't pay in this life for saying that, you will surely pay in the next one!!! :furious3:

~;)

God i hate Fox's baseball coverage. Every time I hear Tim McCarver blatter on like he was the greatest player ever and knows everything, it makes me want to scream. Joe Buck sucks too, his Dad was sooo much better.

[Proletariat]

McCarver is an ass. All his fawning over Jeter makes me sick.

http://bobfinnan.com/TimMcCarver/tim.htm

[Strike For The South]

Red Sox

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Your first name is Yogi? ~D
lol PIAZZA, i meant current. ~:)

[Kaiser of Arabia]

http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/shows/nymets.jpg

If that doesn't show my pride, I dont know what does.

[Soulforged]

http://www.bocajuniors.com/rincon2001.jpg

[Devastatin Dave]

http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/shows/nymets.jpg

If that doesn't show my pride, I dont know what does.

My eyes, my eyes!!! It burns!!!!

The Mutts suck!!! Go Braves!!! ~D

[GonZ]

Real football for me... also known as "soccer" I rather enjoy Cricket too.

American football appears to be rugby in suits of armour. Do they actually kick the ball? I know you can rush and pass... but do they ever kick the ball... with their feet?

Baseball; we have a game a bit like baseball here in England, it's called "rounders"... children play it. How many countries compete in the world series out of interest?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Do any of you know what is the most popular proffessional sport? That is the most watched?

[scooter_the_shooter]

NASCAR........... :embarassed:

[Soulforged]

Do any of you know what is the most popular proffessional sport? That is the most watched?

I would say yes, is there another way to look at the subject. And it's football btw.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

American football appears to be rugby in suits of armour. Do they actually kick the ball? I know you can rush and pass... but do they ever kick the ball... with their feet?

I have never heard of anyone kicking the ball with any other portion of their anatomy. Might pay extra depending on the view....

Serious answer is, yes, though it is restricted, in practice, to no more than 1 play in 4, mostly for changing possession of the ball.


Baseball; we have a game a bit like baseball here in England, it's called "rounders"... children play it. How many countries compete in the world series out of interest?

Baseball is an adult game, though childishness is quite prevalent. Moreover, one could argue that no country competes in the world series out of interest, but rather for contractual reasons.

Serious answer is that the 3 predominant professional leagues are located in the USA, Canada, and Japan. Players competing for those teams come from many countries, representing most of North America, the Carribean, and Japan. Moreover Gonz, if you can throw a 96 MPH fastball and an 82MPH slider with reasonable accuracy using the same motion, I'll have you playing in the Bigs no later than next September -- and I'll only charge you 3% to serve as your agent (I'm not greedy ~:) ).

SF

[Gawain of Orkeny]

to no more than 1 play in 4, mostly for changing possession of the ball.

If your teams any good its used more often to kick off or score points. Remember generally their are two kicking plays after every touchdown.


NASCAR.......

Close


I would say yes, is there another way to look at the subject. And it's football btw.

Wrong.

Its auto racing. And by a wide margin I might add. Geez how many proffessional racing organizations are there in the US alone? Im sure Brtain and most of Europe have many also. I dont know about there but here even the small quarter mile tracks have proffesional races on them like Nascar Modifieds. Also a big race can draw 250000 people into the stands. No other sport can touch that.

[Soulforged]

Perhaps you're right, but football is the most played of all the games. So i still say is the more popular, because it's the most appealing to the people, the populis. Is the cheapest game that i know, you only need to rocks, an plain surfice where to play and a ball made of something, simple as that. And more important it's fun.
And also you're considering car racing as a whole, while most people sparate it into specific types of racing, while football is the same in all places of the world, except for USA i think, they have some strange rules there. ~:eek:

"El automovilismo desplaza al ciclismo y a las motos y se convierte en el segundo deporte más visto en TV, tras el fútbol"

Heading of an article in this (http://www.lukor.com/television/noticias/0412/02122301.htm) link on a spanish web site. Translation:
"The automovilism (as a whole) displaced ciclism and motos and turns into the second sport most saw in TV, under football." ~D :duel:

[_Martyr_]

Is it fair to class motor sport as one sport? I mean, if we are going to do that, why dont we take ball games as a category? Formula1, drag racing, superbikes or Nascar etc... are very different sports, and cant really be classed as one.

[Sigurd]

According to the good patrons of this site Soccer is 113% better than American "football" and 540% better than Baseball.
Just wanted to point out the statistics of subjectivity. ~:cheers:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Perhaps you're right, but football is the most played of all the games.

Not proffesionally.


Is it fair to class motor sport as one sport?

Not motor sports but auto racing.

[ah_dut]

Rugby. And don't go telling me you need to be of a certain size, that's bullocks. My friend is an first XV full back at 5'1'' and he's good at his job, most of the backs are 5'3'' and we won the middlesex cup. Ok, one of the backs was this person who we all reckon is on steroids...

I'm a flanker and I'm not exactly big by any means whatsoever.

I think you need more stamina for rugby than American Football, less stoppages to my knowledge. Also, let's just say I've accompannied enough people to hospital to say that it is pretty much war in a maul against people larger than yourself (which will happen unless you're pretty tall indeed.) Rules are mroe strictly enforced at scoolboy level but unfortunately scrums collapse much more.

So how was ''football'' better than the real deal again?

[Aenlic]

Trivia time.

Which country won the last Olympic gold medal in Rugby? The last two, as a matter of fact. ~D

[Louis VI the Fat]

Trivia time.

Which country won the last Olympic gold medal in Rugby? The last two, as a matter of fact. ~DOr, to put it differently:

Trivia time.
Which country lost the last two Olympic Rugby finals?


Hint: ~:mecry:

[Aenlic]

Now, now. Everyone is a winner. And they did get the silver.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Now, now. Everyone is a winner. And they did get the silver.But there were only TWO bloody contestants!!! :wall: :furious3:

[ShadesPanther]

may favouite would be
1. the Real football (the one that involves feet touching ball)
2. Rugby. comon Ireland beat England good ~;)
3. Baseball (on live at 2am when Insomnia strikes)
4. American football. Rugby with padding and stopping for a breather every 10 secs
5. Cricket its just so boring

[Soulforged]

Not proffesionally.



Not motor sports but auto racing.

I think that you missed the statistics man 1. Football 2. Automovilism :wall: . Anyway... What does it haves to do if it's played professionally or not? You're looking for the most popular game in the world, the world popular means "of the people" not of the rich, or of the autos fans, of all the people, and football it's without doubt the most popular. And...Are you kidding me? Now i realize that it's not the most professionalized game ~:eek: . Seriously man, there're 22 players for team, with more than 20 teams average per country, with more than 50 countries that have professional football and more than 3 divisions that are also professional with another 20+ teams for every division. Come on! :book:
Explain me the difference between motor sports and auto racing. ~:confused:

[Sjakihata]

so I guess the conclusion is that soccer is more popular

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Anyway... What does it haves to do if it's played professionally or not?

Maybe because I asked


Do any of you know what is the most popular proffessional sport? That is the most watched?

I think that was pretty clear.


Explain me the difference between motor sports and auto racing.

Your joking correct? OK Ill take you at your word. Auto Racing is for Automoblies while motor racing covers anything that is motorized including motorcycles,snow mobiles, boats, aircraft and wave runners just for starts. If you make it motor sports its the number 1 sport in every category even though some of you claim these guys are noteven atheletes.

[Soulforged]

Maybe because I asked

Ok, you got me there. But then your assumption of profesionally=watched is wrong.


Your joking correct? OK Ill take you at your word. Auto Racing is for Automoblies while motor racing covers anything that is motorized including motorcycles,snow mobiles, boats, aircraft and wave runners just for starts. If you make it motor sports its the number 1 sport in every category even though some of you claim these guys are noteven atheletes.

I'm still learning english so i didn't joke. And you're trying to group all of the different Motor Racing into just one category, when the stadist made the contrary.
Still the single event most watched is the World Cup of the FIFA, that makes football the most popular. If one is better than the other is just a matter of tastes.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Ok, you got me there. But then your assumption of profesionally=watched is wrong.

I suggest your comprehension of the english language is whats at fault here.I never stated proffessional equals watched. I asked what was the most Watched Proffessional sport.

[Ser Clegane]

If you make it motor sports its the number 1 sport in every category even though some of you claim these guys are noteven atheletes.

It is the #1?

I actually highly doubt that, even if you include all motor sports. Do you have any numbers to back up your claim that on a given weekend more people are watchong motorsports than football/soccer?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Do you have any numbers to back up your claim that on a given weekend more people are watchong motorsports than football/soccer?

Well ive tried but i cant find any numbers. Again though a race can handle crowds far larger than any soccer stadium and the number of proffessional races held in The US alone on a weekend is staggering eclipsing all the other proffessional sports here put together. Of course during the winter NFL football takes the crown as theres not much racing going on. No other sport can get a quarter of a million people to show up for an event.

[Ser Clegane]

No other sport can get a quarter of a million people to show up for an event.

But how many recing events of such a scale are there on a given weekend? In addition I do not think at all that the importance of motorsport in the US is any indication for its global importance.

In Germany the number of motorsport events certainly isn't staggering while the number of soccer matches definitely is.

[_Martyr_]

And again, you are comparing apples and oranges. If you take auto-racing as a category (not individual sports like F1, or NASCAR on their own...), why cant we take all types of football? That would include Football, Rugby Football, American football, Gaelic Football, Aussie Rules and every other variation of the "bouncy ball on field with two teams" formula around the world.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

But how many recing events of such a scale are there on a given weekend? In addition I do not think at all that the importance of motorsport in the US is any indication for its global importance.

Its not that but that there are more proffesional races held every weekend than any other sport. I bet its the same in England and Austraillia. You have to remeber there are very few amatuer races held here as oppsed to proffesional ones. Racing costs big bucks. There are hundreds if not thousands of proffesional races held n the US alnoe not only on weekends but during the week.


In Germany the number of motorsport events certainly isn't staggering while the number of soccer matches definitely is.

I dount your a racing fan and I think you would be amazed at how many races are run in Germany every weekend. I doubt you have anywhere near the number we do however as we have race tracks everywhere.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Also a big race can draw 250000 people into the stands. No other sport can touch that.250.000 spectators?

Childplay.


15,000,000 spectators (men: 68% - women: 32%)
21 stages
25,055 number of security personnel.
2300 accredidated journalists
1200 photographer, cameramen & TV directors
1100 technicians or chauffeurs
528 various media
78 television channels showing the Tour in 170 countries
2,000,000,000 television viewerslink (http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefrance/facts/article/0,5976,s1-5062-523,00.html?category_id=523)
The Tour de France attracts a crowd of 750.000, daily, for 21 days in a row.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Again Im talking proffesional sport. ~;)

[Louis VI the Fat]

Again Im talking proffesional sport. ~;)Professional sport?

Let's ask Lance '$150,000,000' Armstrong about professional cycling... :balloon2:

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Its still not a proffesional sport. Michael Schumaker makes more anyway. Those are endorsements he gets. Or is there prize money on the tour?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Yes, there is some 3 million euro in prize money. :book:

http://www.letour.fr/2005/presentationus/enjeux.html

But that's of course peanuts compared to the sponsorships and endorsements. Cycling is a major professional sport.

Not as big as motorsports or autoracing though. Which in turn are not as big as (association) football.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Not as big as motorsports or autoracing though. Which in turn are not as big as (association) football.

Wrong

The Best-Paid Athletes

1. Tiger Woods
2. Michael Schumacher
3. Peyton Manning
4. Michael Jordan
5. Shaquille O'Neal
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Andre Agassi
8. David Beckham
9. Alex Rodriguez
10. Kobe Bryant

Woods and Schumacher are tied at 80 million apiece.

LINK (http://www.forbes.com/2004/06/23/04athletesland.html)

[Soulforged]

You're still puting all in the same hole, but, anyway, the professional sport most watched is football by itself, though i cannot give numbers it's stated that this is the truth. So as i don't have any numbers i cannot say that it's superior to all motor sports together, but it's to automovilism.

And Michael Jordan is still considered an athelt? Even when he doesn't play any sports? This is news for me. ~:)