Byzantium Total War

[NodachiSam]

Sounds good ! ~:cheers:

[kataphraktoi]

Yah Yah its too late, u've done the Varangians already. Here's my interpretatino of them anyway. Its a concept I did a fair whle back ages ago.

Thought I'd dump it here. Hehe.

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7048/01162006115725pm9ww.th.jpg (https://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01162006115725pm9ww.jpg)

[edyzmedieval]

Glad you like it.

@Kataphraktos

There's always room for improvement. ~D

[Cronos Impera]

Not we Hungarians but master P. (who called generally as Anonymous) was who made these states-tribes.
The Gesta style in itself is rather a tale than a historical accurate work.
Master P. obviously hadnt already real infos about the conquering. This is understandable he wrote about things what happened 200 years before his era. The modern historians dont belive him because he made a lot very-very important mistakes. Only a little bit: archeologists find Avar presence in the Carpathian basin in the time of the Magyar conquering but master P. dont know about them.
I will translate his major mistakes into English but nowadays I have a lot to do.
I have no time and no reason convincing you.
In 976 Erdőelve (Transylvania) is under the rule of the Gyula who was a separate Magyar tribe leader. (There were more Gyulas. Sarolt, Gyeicsa's wife was the daughter of either Gyula.)

Annonymus was the secretary of King Bella, he's magyar. Alll medieval history is written as a tale. That's why we call them chroniclers. The Gesta is the only historical work that brings light to the obscure 1000's. For magyars to challange that is like greeks to challange Herodotus or Plutarch.
The Gesta is the only magyar piece of historical info from this period. Stop covering real documents that aren't pleasant to you just because they are.
Gyla = Gelu ( romanian )
Glad
Menumorut.
They are authentic vlah princes, historical research proves it. The magyars conquered those Voievodes through force ( Duke Gelu's Voievodate) and some through the power of persuasion ( like Menumorut's Voievodate).
I would say that Mathias Corvin is half-romanian. Many romanian nobles after the magyar conquest adopted the Catholic religion and embraced Hungarian names.
Transylvannia was an organized vlah region by the time of the Magyar Conquest.

[edyzmedieval]

Good one Cronos. ~D

[Imperator Honorius]

I suppose I could do some coding for you, but what would that contain as in what type of files (i.e.ancillaries, unit stats)? And I can code for you until I am needed for The Ilsamiren Wars, which I am already a member of.

[edyzmedieval]

Hmmm, we might need that a bit later on.

We started coding the units, so we will try to make the first BETA as soon as possible. ~:)

[hellas1]

Dear Edyz,

Congradultions man! To the entire team!
Beautiful work! Go, Go, Go and keep going!

Efhome na gamisi olous to Byzantium Total War, fiki fiki! :laugh4:

Na Zisi O Basileus kai to Byzavtio!

[kataphraktoi]

I wanna adopt u guys, but u're too old.

[edyzmedieval]

Glad you like it. Be sure to check the Faction Preview, in the Mod Discussion Forum. ~D

@Kataphraktoi

Why would you want that?!

[Imperator Honorius]

I can do other coding as well, but I'm wondering what type of coding you need. If you tell me I can help you if you need.

[edyzmedieval]

Well, here's what we need on coding:

-traits and ancillaries
-unit implementing(that can be fixed anyways)
-scripting(that's more advanced, we need to find a scripter for that)

We need very much a scripter to test our ideas.

[Imperator Honorius]

I'll PM you in the ImperiumTW forum about this. I should be able to help with most of it.

[edyzmedieval]

Any comments on our Faction Preview?!

[Radier]

Yes, I thought it was awesome. :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Glad you like it. ~D

[kataphraktoi]

What! NO Georgians? Jk. :laugh4: I'd like to know how that Khakaber maanged to rack up 148 posts!? Does he talk about Georgia all the time? Has anyone debated about Georgia's greatness??

Funny nationalists...

[Cronos Impera]

Congratulations Edyzmedieval. Great preview in the Mod Discussions. Maybe in the future we could mod toghether ( 1821 maybe? ). You did a great job.

[Csatadi]

Annonymus was the secretary of King Bella, he's magyar. Alll medieval history is written as a tale. That's why we call them chroniclers. The Gesta is the only historical work that brings light to the obscure 1000's. For magyars to challange that is like greeks to challange Herodotus or Plutarch.
The Gesta is the only magyar piece of historical info from this period. Stop covering real documents that aren't pleasant to you just because they are.
Gyla = Gelu ( romanian )
Glad
Menumorut.
They are authentic vlah princes, historical research proves it. The magyars conquered those Voievodes through force ( Duke Gelu's Voievodate) and some through the power of persuasion ( like Menumorut's Voievodate).
I would say that Mathias Corvin is half-romanian. Many romanian nobles after the magyar conquest adopted the Catholic religion and embraced Hungarian names.
Transylvannia was an organized vlah region by the time of the Magyar Conquest.
I heard many pros and contras about Anonymous. I will use e.g. this Menumorutu guy in AOVAF btw. Why not?
I didnt know in the Romanian history Transylvania is conquered only in ~1100 by the Magyars. Thats why I didnt understand edyz in the Transylvanian issue.

Also I didnt know the dako-romanian theory is only one of the many theories of the Romanian genesis.
But very interesting it is accepted only by Romanian historians. (I refer here to the area continuity.) Let me know if not.

I could debate but what for? I know the project leader is Romanian therefore the mod will use the official Romanian theories. It worth much more for me if I :juggle2: and you :book: more even you deny the contents. I did it too.

[Cronos Impera]

Csatadi, ethincities aren't an issue here. Even if the Project Leader was hungarian ( Eg: Forgus ) the Gesta would still be taken into consideration. You say that we should ignore Annonymus just because he's a chronicler. Yet all medieval historians are chroniclers. Even you hungarians rely on chroniclers to construct YOUR history.
Here are the facts : 1. The huns left Pannonia after the death of Attila.
2. The weak avar tribes forged a new Khanate in Pannonia
3. Pressed by the pechenegs the hungarians arrived in Atelquz ( Bugeac steppes and later arrived in Pannonia through Galitia)
4. The hungarians quickly subdued the avar tribes of Pannonia ( Charlamagne shattered the khanate before the magyars arrived there)
5. After expanding in the south ( Croatia) and north the hungarians under the Arpad Dinasty slowly fought their way in Transylvannia ( Ardeal ~ Erdely).

[Csatadi]

5. After expanding in the south ( Croatia) and north the hungarians under the Arpad Dinasty slowly fought their way in Transylvannia ( Ardeal ~ Erdely).
What are your sources?
Im reading Constantine's Imperio from 950. He wrote nothing about a 'Transylvanian' state. He listed the neighbours of the Magyars: Franks, Moravians, Pechenegs, Croatians. Nothing more. I dont say he was a historian but he wrote a practical political work.
Gyla or Jila (at Constantine) was the second important Hungarian title.
Menumorutu was a Khazar leader at Anonymous.

[edyzmedieval]

Khazar leader? Do you know where Khazar is?

@Cronos

Ma bucur k itzi place.

[edyzmedieval]

We are preparing the BETA. I think in one month it will be available on the market. ~:) :2thumbsup:

ATM, I urge all fans of the mod to register and discuss on the official forums of BTW!!! We have exclusive screenshots there!!!!

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Byzantium_TW/index.php?act=idx

[Csatadi]

Khazar leader? Do you know where Khazar is?
You refer a lot to Anonymous but I suppose you never read the Gesta.
Anonymous’ version of conquering Transylvania (very raw text, all names in Latin):

After Tuhutum, Thosu and Zobolsu conquered some lands Tuhutum (the leader of a Magyar tribe), father of Horca got to know the riches of the land of Transylvania what ruled by a Blacus called Gelou. Tuhutum wanted this land and he succeded later. Tuhutum’s descendants held Transylvania until the times of Saint Stephanus. They had the chance to possess it also further if the younger Gyla (later as Geula, earlier as Gyyla) with his two sons, Biuia and Bucna choose the Christianity.
Tuhutum asked Arpad for his permission to go against Gelou and he got the chance. A spy discovered Gelou’s army was very weak they had only bows.
Tuhutum and Gelou fought, Tuhutum’s army won, Gelou died. The inhabitants accepted Tuhutum as their new lord.
Tuhutum’s lineage: Tuhutum –> Horca –> Zu(m)bor and Geula. Geula had two daughter: Caroldu and Saroltu the last one will be Saint Stephen’s mother. Zu(m)bor had a son, also Geula (the younger) who had two sons Bue and Bucne (compare with Biuia and Bucna above). In the time of the younger Geula Saint Stephanus (997-1038) got the rule of Transylvania.

Again, Anonymos wrote Menumorout was a Cozar leader I just put here the facts.

Anyway, good work and make a fine game!

[Dionysios II The Great]

This mod is going to be great, i can't wait.:2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Csatadi,

May I suggest something? Go back, read it once again, and come back when you are without nationalistic feelings. Thank you, and have a nice day! :2thumbsup:

@Dionysios

Thanks. :2thumbsup:

[hellas1]

Hi Edyz,

I feel as though I've let the BTW team down. :embarassed:
Being Greek, I should have known more about my history. Ti malakas eimai!

I voted for the Seldjuk turks, by the way.
I have history about them and tactics also.
If you still want my input, I'll be happy to help the team.

Hellas1

Still a proud supporter of Byzantium Total War! & Rise of Persia & Antiquity Total War too! :eyebrows:

Na Zisi To Buzavtio kai O Basileus!

[edyzmedieval]

No problem Hellas.

Glad we have supporters. :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Front page heavily edited and updated. ~:)

Be sure to check it out.

[edyzmedieval]

More screens. ~:)

Crusader Standard Bearer
https://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6515/standardw3dm.th.jpg (https://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=standardw3dm.jpg)

Byzantine Standard Bearer
https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8121/standardb7dp.th.jpg (https://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=standardb7dp.jpg)

[edyzmedieval]

Nobody likes them? No comments?!

[beauchamp]

Sweet.
Let see some Moslem units :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Ok, I'll give you some muslims. ~:)

[edyzmedieval]

More screens.
Generic and low quality infantry.

Peasants

https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a153/blindfaithnogod/peasant2.jpg

Serbi Spearmen(Serbian Spearmen)

https://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7710/serbi4kw.th.jpg (https://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=serbi4kw.jpg)

https://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8461/serbi22ja.th.jpg (https://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=serbi22ja.jpg)


Any comments?

[beauchamp]

Salaam Alikum edzymedival! Cool western units...
how bout some muslim units :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Oh ok.

But any more comments on these?! :2thumbsup:

[hellas1]

Hey Edyz!

Wonderful work Manga!

Love it!

Long live Byzantium Total War, kai o Basileus kai to tagma!

OWWWWWWWWWW!

Btw, I still have seldjuk turk info if you need it. Post me if so. :2thumbsup:

[blindfaithnogod]

yeah, post anything you have. it's more than welcome

[Csatadi]

Csatadi,

May I suggest something? Go back, read it once again, and come back when you are without nationalistic feelings. Thank you, and have a nice day! :2thumbsup:

Why do you think exactly Im nationalist?
Giving some material, or something else?

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The peasants look very nice. In this early period (till ~20th century) they used wood pitchforks anyway. Maybe straightened scythes would be better choice. If you want unique peasants draw them barefooted.

The crusaders look like a spirit horde, isnt it? Or are they?~;)
Are they bearded? Try to use some dark brown, black or other color to beards, throusers and boots. Supposing they are real men. ~;)

[edyzmedieval]

Yeah, you read correctly. AoVaF TW, one of the biggest mods for BI out on the market, was about to die because of lack of members. We sorted it out, and now the Byzantium team leads AoVaF TW.

Check this thread for more details:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=62015

It's a blockbuster on the modding market. ~D

@Csatadi

It has been archeologically atested that Menumorut, Gelu and Glad lived in Transilvania. Case closed.

And thanks for the suggestions.

@Hellas

Thanks for the support!!! :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Like our new update? ~:cheers:

[blindfaithnogod]

here's a seljuk horse archer
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6783/seljuk26hz.th.jpg (https://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seljuk26hz.jpg)

[hellas1]

Cool stuff indeed!

Just hollar If you need info about the seldjuk turks, o.k.?

Later

Hellas1- Na Zisi H Poli!

[edyzmedieval]

We need all the info we can get Hellas. ~:)

[hellas1]

I understand file.

Coming to help Byz. TW! :2thumbsup:

Seldjuks...turks but the Byzantines WILL beat there arses!

Fo Sure!

Opa!

[edyzmedieval]

Come with the heavy artillery! ~D

We need pictures and information about them.

[edyzmedieval]

New screenshot. ~:)

Bulgar Elite Archer
https://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8616/bulgarelitearch4jt.th.jpg (https://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bulgarelitearch4jt.jpg)

From now on, we will combine. Max + in game renders. ~:)

Need your comments.

[Csatadi]

It has been archeologically atested that Menumorut, Gelu and Glad lived in Transilvania.
I hope I will get some info somewhere about that findings supposing they are IRL, too. But not from you, Edyz, relax. Its obviously outside of your interest.

[edyzmedieval]

Oh really? :inquisitive:

Oh, and can you take the Magyars out of Transilvania please? They want their autonomy. :laugh4:

Makes me laugh and angry.

[Vladimir]

Oh really? :inquisitive:

Oh, and can you take the Magyars out of Transilvania please? They want their autonomy. :laugh4:

Makes me laugh and angry.


Csatadi,

May I suggest something? Go back, read it once again, and come back when you are without nationalistic feelings. Thank you, and have a nice day! :2thumbsup:



:juggle2:

[edyzmedieval]

Huh? I don't get the post. :dizzy2:

More screens. ~D

More screenshots!!!
Polish units made by Polski Orzel. :)

Polish Druzhyna
https://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4729/druzyna5co.th.jpg (https://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=druzyna5co.jpg)

Tatar horse archers
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7427/tatar3pw.th.jpg (https://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tatar3pw.jpg)

Polish Mazowcie
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9741/mazowcie2zj.th.jpg (https://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mazowcie2zj.jpg)

Teutonic Foot Knights
https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2090/tto4at.th.jpg (https://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tto4at.jpg)

Hope you like them. :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

No comments?

This thread has gone quiet lately. And I posted many times screenshots...

[methoz]

Kingdom of Bohemia must be include :dizzy2:

[NodachiSam]

I for one am still watching and I'm happy to see progress made :)

[kataphraktoi]

Georgia must be included, or else its unrealistic and historically inaccurate...gah, I caught a cold somewhere wats wrong with me!!:laugh4: :laugh4:

[kataphraktoi]

Georgia must be included, or else its unrealistic and historically inaccurate...gah, I caught a cold somewhere wats wrong with me!!:laugh4: :laugh4:

[SkyElf]

Just quitely watching and injoying the great work and effort your put into pic's!. Can't wait to give it a try when it's done. It must be a real labor of talent your putting into this MOD! :2thumbsup:

Sincerely,
SkyElf

[edyzmedieval]

Thanks for all the kind comments.

@Methoz

Sorry, Bohemia can't be included. No more space

@Kata

Nooo way. No space, plus I don't want to. ~D :p

[edyzmedieval]

More screens. ~:)

Fatimid Jarwajaraya Infantry

https://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4494/jarwajar5jo.th.jpg (https://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jarwajar5jo.jpg)

https://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6915/jarwajar28pi.th.jpg (https://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jarwajar28pi.jpg)

https://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2040/jarwajar39pb.th.jpg (https://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jarwajar39pb.jpg)

[edyzmedieval]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46874

Vote for Byzantium TW at the TWC awards!!!

[GiantMonkeyMan]

nice infantry there mate... out of interest when will this mod be finished and how much more do you need to do? it looks like you've done loads already :thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Done loads, still loads to do. ~D

At least the progress is going good on the Early Era.

[edyzmedieval]

More screenshots. :)

Kwarazmian Heavy Cav

https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1390/kwaraz3oi.th.jpg (https://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwaraz3oi.jpg)

https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3154/kwaraz25ml.th.jpg (https://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwaraz25ml.jpg)

https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4752/kwaraz32el.th.jpg (https://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwaraz32el.jpg)

Vote for us at the TWC Modder Awards as the Most Promising Mod!!!!
Go Byzantium!!!! :2thumbsup:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46874

[edyzmedieval]

Updated front page with the latest progress. ~:)

[edyzmedieval]

More shots. ~:)

Saharan Cavalry WIP

https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6670/fr18hl.th.jpg (https://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr18hl.jpg)

https://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6083/fr26gm.th.jpg (https://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr26gm.jpg)

[Helgi]

More screenshots. :)

Kwarazmian Heavy Cav

https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1390/kwaraz3oi.th.jpg (https://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwaraz3oi.jpg)

https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3154/kwaraz25ml.th.jpg (https://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwaraz25ml.jpg)

https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4752/kwaraz32el.th.jpg (https://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwaraz32el.jpg)

Vote for us at the TWC Modder Awards as the Most Promising Mod!!!!
Go Byzantium!!!! :2thumbsup:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46874


Love all 3, but my favorite is the 2nd one. Finally got Gold an sorting the bugs, Hope this will be out soon
:2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

I think in Summer you shall have the first complete version with the campaign map and such. ~:)

[Helgi]

I think in Summer you shall have the first complete version with the campaign map and such. ~:)

Summer ist good, I think I'm looking forward to Byzantine TW as much as NAP 2 :2thumbsup: ,

[edyzmedieval]

You're not the only one. We got 14 votes at the TWC Awards. We passed by 3 votes Zhanguo TW and just 1 vote behind Ran No Jidai!!! :2thumbsup:

~D

[hellas1]

Hey Edyz,

Remember what I said about "crap"?

Continue the good work man! :2thumbsup: Po, Po, Po!

Long Live Byzantium Total War & Hellas!

[kataphraktoi]

Lol, I wasn't serious about that Georgia comment, I was imitating ur favourite boon companion Khakaber...lolhahahahaha

[edyzmedieval]

At least we don't have any Georgians around here...He would have destroyed us with his posts.... :laugh4:

[edyzmedieval]

More shots. ~:)

Berber Tunisian Infantry WIP

https://img485.imageshack.us/img485/1198/fr22qo.th.jpg (https://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr22qo.jpg)

https://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6250/fr10ac.th.jpg (https://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr10ac.jpg)

[edyzmedieval]

Here's the new and updated tech tree. ~D

Byzantium

Military Tech Tree

Militia
Police - phylakes(urban militia)
Imperial Police - Exhoubitores, +10% law

Archery
Bowyer – Psiloi
Archery Range - Psiloi toxotai, Solenarios(till Late Era)
Bowyer’s Workshop - Peltastoi
Master Bowyer - Peltastoi Enoplioi, Tzagrotoxotai(crossbowmen)
Huge Archery Range -Mourtatoi(from High Era)

Barracks
Spearmaker - Skoutatoi, Epirote Greek Infantry(AoR in Epirhus)
Spearmaker Workshop - Skoutatoi Promachoi
Spearmaker's Guild - +1xp to all,
Master swordsmith – Menevlatoi(till High Era)
Imperial Swordsmith – Spatharioi(till Late Era)

Stables
Stables - Trapezitae, Hyperkerastai , Pecheneg Horse Archers(light and very fast horse archers, good attack, leather armour)
Cavalry stables - Latinikon Tagmata(will disappear after 1204), Prokoursator(thematic cavalry)
Military Stables – Stratiotai(till Late Era), Kataphraktoi(till High Era)
Elite cavalry stables – Athanatoi Immortals, Klibanophoroi, Pronoia Allagia(after 1204)(till High Era)
Imperial Cavalry Stables – Tagmata Klibanophoroi, Tagmata Kataphraktoi(till High Era)


Imperial Palace – Imperial Varangian Guards(huge city, AoR Constantinople)

Civil Buildings

Buildings Tech Tree

Religion
Basilica (+5 happiness, town),
Church (+10 happiness, +1 morale, +5% Christianity, large town)
Large Church(+15 happiness,+1 morale,+10% Christianity, minor city)
Monastery(+20 happiness,+1 morale, +15% Christianity, requires city
Cathedral (+40 happiness, +2 morale, +20% Christianity, requires large city)
Hagia Sophia (+50 happiness,+4 morale,+30% Christianity, +3 experience,huge city, AoB Constantinople)

Arenas
Arena (allows races, +5% happiness),
The Great Hippodrome(AoB Constantinople, +20% happiness, huge city)

Farming
Forest clearing(+1 farming)
Basic Farms (+2 farming)
Farms(+3 farming)
Crop rotation (+4 farming),
Irrigation (+5 farming)

Health
Sewers (+5% health bonus),
Herbal medicine (+10% health bonus),
Aqueduct(+20% health bonus)
Underground Cisterns(+25% health bonus, AoB Constantinople)

Roads
Paths
Roads(+5% trade)
Paved roads(+10% trade)

Trade
Trader (+10% trade),
Market (+20% trade),
Large Market(+25% trade),
Agora(+30% trade)
Agora of Constantinos(+60% trade, +20% happiness, AoB Constantinople)

Ports
Port (lvl 1 ships),
Shipyard (lvl 2 ships),
Dockyard (lvl 3 ships)
Huge Dockyard(lvl3 ships, +200 denarii, +15% trade, AoB Constantinople)

Blacksmith
Blacksmith (+1 to all weapons)
Master blacksmith (+3 to all weapons)
Armorer (+1 to all armor)
Master armorer (+3 to all armor)

Mines
Copper mine (+100 denarii)),
Underground copper mine (+400 denarii),
Silver mine(+200 denarii)
Underground silver mine(+500 denarii)
Gold mine (+300 denarii)
Underground gold mine (+800 denarii)

Academies
Grammar School
Patriarchal School
University of Constantinople(AoB Constantinople)

-Walls up to level 5

What do you think? ~D

[edyzmedieval]

Come on...No comments or feedback? ~:(

[Radier]

Yes I think this mod looks very good but I have said it before...

~:cheers:

Love the tech-tree. :2thumbsup:

[hellas1]

Hi edyz,

One thing's missing: Artillery!

Look @ my post on the BTW website and give me feedback dude ~:cheers:

Long live Hellas!

As long as there are Greeks, Byzantium will never die.-Hellas1

[Helgi]

I would comment, but it would pale in comparission to what I'm thinking and all I can say is that I'm pleasently speechless

:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

https://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4269/bip8qi.th.gif (https://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bip8qi.gif)

Early shot of our site. ~D

Thanks for all the comments. ~:cheers:

[edyzmedieval]

New shots. ~:)

Toxotai
https://img324.imageshack.us/img324/9393/toxotai8nq.th.jpg (https://img324.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toxotai8nq.jpg)https://img342.imageshack.us/img342/1451/toxotai29kt.th.jpg (https://img342.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toxotai29kt.jpg)https://img324.imageshack.us/img324/7497/toxotai32xg.th.jpg (https://img324.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toxotai32xg.jpg)

[Subedei]

I really look frwrd. to this mod. On one hand b/c of the beautiful units, on the other to get involved (more) into Byzantine history!!!! Rock on U guys:2thumbsup:

[Byzantine Mercenary]

looks good, are you gonna by implementing anything from EB? you know more expensive units, or their trait system?

[edyzmedieval]

Expensive units will surely be. We can't allow the player to build stacks and stacks of Tagmata Klibanphoroi!!! :laugh4:

As for the trait system, I don't know. Traits and ancillaries will surely by something + for the mod. ~:)

[SkyElf]

The post keeps showing really great pictures being made by Toxotai if I'm if I have the correct name of the poster. I look forward to playing the game when it's done, and more great pictures!!!!

:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Actually, Toxotai is the greek name for archers. ~D :laugh4:
Blindfaithnogod worked on them.

[edyzmedieval]

New shots. ~:)

Hyperkerastai

https://img319.imageshack.us/img319/4160/hyperkerastai4sx.th.jpg (https://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperkerastai4sx.jpg)

https://img319.imageshack.us/img319/2493/hyperkerastai25cj.th.jpg (https://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperkerastai25cj.jpg)

https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7721/hyperkerastai34um.th.jpg (https://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperkerastai34um.jpg)

[edyzmedieval]

Expect a new update soon. ~D

[edyzmedieval]

New shots. ~:)

Pyroforoi - GREEK FIRE THROWERS(Naptha)

https://img320.imageshack.us/img320/194/pyrforoi9ti.th.jpg (https://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyrforoi9ti.jpg)

https://img50.imageshack.us/img50/651/pyrforoi35rh.th.jpg (https://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyrforoi35rh.jpg)

https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4655/pyrforoi21cy.th.jpg (https://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyrforoi21cy.jpg)

[edyzmedieval]

More shots. Done by palissa. ~:)

HRE Archers WIP

https://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8760/fr10va.th.jpg (https://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr10va.jpg)

Norman Miltia Cavalry WIP

https://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5126/fr16ux.th.jpg (https://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr16ux.jpg)

[edyzmedieval]

Here are some news, bit dissapointing.

My personal exams are getting closer(1 month away), so my time to guvern the mod will be restricted. It will be in a sort of hibernation state, till I finish my exams, on the 22th of JUNE(sorry).

Till then, we'll have reduced activity and no more updates. Sorry.
But after that...Prepare for Hurricane Byzantrina. ~D

[edyzmedieval]

Here's some more info.

Current progress

Historical research: about 75%
Tech trees: about 60% - some factions tech trees need to be done
Camapign map: 10%
Units: about 45% - about 140 units made
Faction symbols: 90% - some of them need a bit of editing
New factions: 0%
Coding: about 20% - most units have been implemented
Scripting: 10%
Testing: 0%
Multiplayer: 0%

[edyzmedieval]

We've entered Hibernation mode for one month. I have exams, and I can't continue work. :shame:

[edyzmedieval]

30th of June 2006
=============

Very sad announcement. The mod is half dead.
We shall release a skin pack. After that, the mod will be declared dead.

This is because we have nobody to work. Thank you.

:skull:

[Byzantine Emperor]

Awww. I was looking forward to a Byzantine mod.

[edyzmedieval]

Sorry, that's life. :skull:
We might make BTW for MTWII though.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

sorry BTW is cancelled edyz. at least you got AOVAF, EB, HTW! :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Gathering of screenshots, now reveiled to the public. ~:)

Templar Foot Knights revamped

https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/966/foot9ft.th.jpg (https://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foot9ft.jpg)
https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3820/foot23kh.th.jpg (https://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foot23kh.jpg)
https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3372/foot37bo.th.jpg (https://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foot37bo.jpg)

Knights
https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6908/knight0qd.th.jpg (https://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knight0qd.jpg)
https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6379/knight26qr.th.jpg (https://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knight26qr.jpg)
https://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2012/knight30wk.th.jpg (https://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=knight30wk.jpg)

Norman Axemen

https://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5627/footknight4uk.png
https://img270.imageshack.us/img270/8969/footknight20pn.th.png (https://img270.imageshack.us/my.php?image=footknight20pn.png)
https://img270.imageshack.us/img270/812/footknight38pz.th.png (https://img270.imageshack.us/my.php?image=footknight38pz.png)

Italian Knights
https://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8836/italianknights5hr.png
https://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8335/italianknights24xe.th.png (https://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=italianknights24xe.png)
https://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5404/italianknights39kt.th.png (https://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=italianknights39kt.png)

Neapolitan Infantry

https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5443/neainf1xc.jpg
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9428/neainf29sh.th.jpg (https://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=neainf29sh.jpg)
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/778/neainf30id.th.jpg (https://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=neainf30id.jpg)

Feudal Sargeants
https://img473.imageshack.us/img473/2674/fs9aq.th.jpg (https://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fs9aq.jpg)

Mounted Sargeants
https://img473.imageshack.us/img473/875/ms5ro.th.jpg (https://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ms5ro.jpg)

Royal Knights
https://img473.imageshack.us/img473/290/rk9er.th.jpg (https://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rk9er.jpg)

Italian Heavy Militia
https://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5061/heavymilita6rx.th.jpg (https://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heavymilita6rx.jpg)

Italian Light Militia
https://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9310/lightmilitia3vo.th.jpg (https://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightmilitia3vo.jpg)

Siculo-Muslim Archers
https://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8595/sicilianarcher1kn.th.jpg (https://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sicilianarcher1kn.jpg)

https://img473.imageshack.us/img473/5248/rk23cu.th.jpg (https://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rk23cu.jpg)

Siculo-Muslim Militia
https://img414.imageshack.us/img414/6465/sicmil7iq.th.jpg (https://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sicmil7iq.jpg)

Rus Druzhina
['URL=https://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=druzhina31ea.jpg]https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7356/druzhina31ea.th.jpg[/URL]
https://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2385/druzskin2uw.th.jpg (https://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=druzskin2uw.jpg)
Armenian Infantry
https://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9582/arminf6jq.th.jpg (https://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arminf6jq.jpg)
Norman/Western Horse
https://img434.imageshack.us/img434/7215/normanhorse3yr.th.jpg (https://img434.imageshack.us/my.php?image=normanhorse3yr.jpg)
Bulgar Elite Archers
https://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8616/bulgarelitearch4jt.th.jpg (https://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bulgarelitearch4jt.jpg)
Sicilian Crossbow
https://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4945/siciliancrossbow5tm.th.jpg (https://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=siciliancrossbow5tm.jpg)
https://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4408/sicily9rb.th.jpg[/URL]
Crusader General
https://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5518/general8ze.th.jpg (https://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=general8ze.jpg)https://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5497/general25gg.th.jpg (https://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=general25gg.jpg)https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6378/general32by.th.jpg (https://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=general32by.jpg)
Crusader Slingers
https://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6872/slinger5qv.th.jpg (https://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slinger5qv.jpg)
Seljuk Horse Archers
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2089/seljuk2as.th.jpg (https://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seljuk2as.jpg)
Cuman Warriors redone
https://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8271/cuman9hs.th.jpg (https://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cuman9hs.jpg)
Feudal Men-at-Arms
https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1418/feudal0sx.th.jpg (https://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feudal0sx.jpg)
HRE Royal Knights
https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9761/hre37rm.th.jpg (https://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hre37rm.jpg)
Psiloi
https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7828/psiloi0vl.th.jpg (https://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=psiloi0vl.jpg)
Pecheneg Heavies
https://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6959/pecheneg9rg.th.jpg (https://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pecheneg9rg.jpg)
Athanatoi
https://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7596/athan0gv.th.jpg (https://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=athan0gv.jpg)
Swabian Swordsmen---Dismounted Kataphraktoi---Steppe Heavy Cavalry------Steppe Warriors
https://img422.imageshack.us/img422/448/swab39op.th.jpg (https://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=swab39op.jpg)https://img422.imageshack.us/img422/72/dismountedkat7hh.th.jpg (https://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dismountedkat7hh.jpg)https://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3449/steppeheavy9lt.th.jpg (https://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steppeheavy9lt.jpg)https://img465.imageshack.us/img465/3990/steppewar3dy.th.jpg (https://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steppewar3dy.jpg)

[hellas1]

It's ALIVE!!!!!!!!
It's ALIVE!!!!!!!!


Yeah.

Hellas1

[SkyElf]

Some very Impressive art work!! Keep it up and looking forward to giving your MOD a try.

[edyzmedieval]

Sorry to spoil the fun, but BTW ain't alive. I am just releasing the secret screenshots we had.

[The Spartan (Returns)]

wow!!! those are good. you should dontae some to Chivalry: Total War, i bet they would take it.

[Helgi]

Spartan is right, Chivalry: Total War, could use it and kinda resurect something of BTW?

[Byzantine Emperor]

What modders were you short on edyz?

[Incongruous]

Yeah Instead of just letting die out ask around, you're MOD has garnered a prestigous rep and I bet quite a few people will be wanting to make it happen

[Byzantine Emperor]

Yeah I'd love to try and help Byzantium Total War.

[edyzmedieval]

Oh well, I think it's time to *cough* release some mre info *cough* about a possible *cough* new game mod revival...

*cough* MTWII is fairly accurate, but needs more accuracy *cough*.





































~D

[edyzmedieval]

Anyone offering to help the MTWII mod? We already have some guys and we got stuff planned, so help us!

Romaiki Aftokratoria - MTWII mod about the Byzantine Empire

[Vuk]

*Bump*

[Seleukos]

Anyone offering to help the MTWII mod? We already have some guys and we got stuff planned, so help us!

Romaiki Aftokratoria - MTWII mod about the Byzantine Empire

Forget it Edyz.
The effort would be condemned as the previous efforts (MTW,RTW,BI...)

You ll be restarting it ..even when MTW45 or RTW50 are released :yes:

If the ambition was not so high,(900 factions,1.000.000 units,full previews..etc etc etc) maybe it would have succeed.

[Vuk]

Viva la Byzantium!!

What happened to the RTW version? It was going great! Surely there are modders out there who will help you!
MODDERS!! Get of you big hairy overwieght butts and lend a hand!!! (Not meant to offend anyone as I am a modder myslef). What is wrong with you? How can you give up your name in modding history!?

[ByzantineKnight]

Viva la Byzantium!!

What happened to the RTW version? It was going great! Surely there are modders out there who will help you!
MODDERS!! Get of you big hairy overwieght butts and lend a hand!!! (Not meant to offend anyone as I am a modder myslef). What is wrong with you? How can you give up your name in modding history!?

Okay, what people do you need? I didn't offer before (even though I love Byzantium/Constantinople/Istambul/Miklagard) because we are going on vacation soon, but I might be able to help with some stuff.

[Vuk]

A lot of people want to see this mod get made, so here's an idea:
Contact everyone on the team and let 'em know we are rolling again. Recruit! (I am, unfortunetaly not a good modder, but I will help with this). Get colourful sigs, write up enticing descriptions. Set your goals a little lower!! Make some good base units for the first release (the sooner you put out a release the better!), and then you can make more to release in a later version. Try to narrow down some important things for a first release, and work on them!

I will help with whatever I can (though it may not be much), but more importantly, I may be able to get more people to help you.
Never give up!
We will rise again!

[Helgi]

Viva la Byzantium!!
If this is going to be made, then great, if it's going to be shoved off to MTV2, then what's the Bloody point of doing it!! The Byzantium Mod, I've waited for as has everyone else has, I'm not a modder (at best, I can offer historical support if needed (but I think that has been done very well, but can look up anything needed, if Needed). Let's not waste RTW: Byzantium and get it done as soon as possible:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

[Roman_Man#3]

Exactly!!!! ON WITH BYZANTIUM!!!!!!!!

[Helgi]

So what is the Gameplan and release date for R:TW - Byzantium?

[edyzmedieval]

Well, if anyone wants to make up a team and release this thing, it's perfect.

I can't do a damned thing, I am too busy with RL and EB.

[hellas1]

Hey Edyz!

What happened man? :dizzy2:

I thought this mod would be done and also ported over to MTWII?

Not to mention you added me to a certain forum a while ago.... ~:confused:

Anyway, let's get this done for RTW and then MTWII, which IS better!
:beam:

hellas1- Once you go greek, you need it EVERY week....Yiala!!!

[SSJVegetaTrunks]

Was this being made for regular or BI?

[Helgi]

As long as it get's done for RTW or BI, It doesn't matter to me as long as it's done and released for either RTW or BI

[Helgi]

As long as it get's done for RTW or BI, It doesn't matter to me as long as it's done and released for either RTW or BI
Is this going to get done anytime soon?:wall:
Please don't fluff this off on MTW2!

[eroslav]

Nice job!

My opinion is that you should make the starting date on the game 330,when the byzantine empire was made.Because then it will be more interesting.

That is what i think.
But it is good this way too.

[edyzmedieval]

If anyone is still interested, I stumbled on about 20MB of skins and models from the mod...

[Helgi]

Yes totally,

[edyzmedieval]

Ok, I'll upload them this week to the public.

[edyzmedieval]

This is the first part of the old and promised ByzantiumTW Skinpack. It features many units, with complete model and skin. Feel free to use them for personal use, ask permission if you want them for mods.

Contributors: blindfaithnogod, palissa, shogo, halie satanus, xennik, favre, Dirty Peasant, Polski Orzel... (I hope I haven't forgotten anyone)

Part II will be released soon, as I need to gather the remaining models scattered everywhere.

NOTE: 16MB of units includes about 30-40 units, so it's a lot. Bear in mind, there might be some doubles, so check them out.

DOWNLOAD LINK

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BYVHVIAQ

[Vuk]

This is the first part of the old and promised ByzantiumTW Skinpack. It features many units, with complete model and skin. Feel free to use them for personal use, ask permission if you want them for mods.

Contributors: blindfaithnogod, palissa, shogo, halie satanus, xennik, favre, Dirty Peasant, Polski Orzel... (I hope I haven't forgotten anyone)

Part II will be released soon, as I need to gather the remaining models scattered everywhere.

NOTE: 16MB of units includes about 30-40 units, so it's a lot. Bear in mind, there might be some doubles, so check them out.

DOWNLOAD LINK

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BYVHVIAQ


I'll ask right up front, "may I use them in a mod?" :D
lol
Thanks much edyz! This is very much appreciated!!

Vuk

[ByzantineKnight]

DOWNLOAD LINK

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BYVHVIAQ

Could you re-host this? Megaupload doesn't work in India...

[edyzmedieval]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=1287

Alternate download link.

[max_minimod]

Dang! Another dead promizing mod?
Hope the others of the team can put the mod back to life!

If not: Anyone interested in joining a darkage mod for RTW/BI (Byzantinians, Abbasid, Bulgars, Moravia, Moors, Asturia-Galicia, Franks, Vikings, ... mod starts 840AC end ~1100), help would be very nice here:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=119455

[Makanyane]

@max_minimod, your mod looks interesting, as its in development why don't you make a thread for it in the Forge here?

Then you can show details of your progress to date, that should get more attention than just having link in another (possibly deceased :embarassed: ) mod's thread.

[max_minimod]

Yes, I will do, I only waited for some more people to join first, to be sure the mod can be done, before starting another thread that dies in the end.
Its so sad to see all that good mod ideas and the nice units die. :embarassed: