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English assassin
08-23-2005, 14:38
So, a farm in the UK that breeds guinea pigs for medical experimentation has been forced to stop.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/4176094.stm

For those unfamilar with the animal liberation movement in the UK, the stock in trade of its more extreme members is violence, death threats, criminal damage, and the like. Finding that people actually involved in animal experiementation usually tough this out, they habitually target anyone dealing with them. (You will read in the story that the supplier of fuel to the farm was targeted, as was the local pub and many other businesses. Even banks who run their bank accounts or insurers who give them cover get atacked). One detail that gave this particular campaign added spice was that the activists dug up and stole the body of the farmers mother in law, (who as it happened had nothing to do with the farm,) alongside the more routine violence and intimidation.

I do not, of course, have anything against people who think animal experimentation is wrong. Frankly I very much doubt they are qualified to hold an intelligent opinion on the subject, but since when did that ever stop any of us. What I do object to, very strongly, is instead of debating the issue in public, where the arguments can be tested and the will of the majority (hopefully well informed and rational, ha ha) can prevail, probably no more than ten or twenty people have decided on behalf of the whole UK that this farm should close. And they have used methods with which the SA would have been very familiar to do it.

I am bloody cross about this, and bloody cross that the courts will not give people protection from these extremist nutters.

Al Khalifah
08-23-2005, 14:47
The family hope that the remains of Gladys Hammond will be returned
That's the sickest thing I've ever heard. The police should be locking these people up. They've stolen a corpse to force the closure of the farm, which is wrong on so many levels.


What I do object to, very strongly, is instead of debating the issue in public, where the arguments can be tested and the will of the majority (hopefully well informed and rational, ha ha) can prevail, probably no more than ten or twenty people have decided on behalf of the whole UK that this farm should close.
Ah but sadly that's the way so much policy is formed in the UK at the moment. A group of bitter people will get together and bitch and bitch about an issue, making a lot of noise and fuss, which gets far more attention than the reasonable and reasoned debators who try to get their cases across through the normal and proper channels.
The vocal minority is ruling the silent majority in the UK at the moment. The same small vocal minority that enforce the farce that is political correctness on the rest of us. The same small vocal minority that enforce the ridiculous health and safety restrictions that make our businesses uncompetitive and take attention away from far more real issues such as that of hygene in hospitals.

In short if you want something in the UK, make as much fuss as possible. Do not worry about popular opinion. The support of a newspaper should be enough to see your radical policies implemented.

_Martyr_
08-23-2005, 15:13
Its pretty sick. Im against all forms of animal testing EXCEPT vital medical research. But there is absolutely no excuse for this sort of thing. Stealing a body like that is an absolute disgrace. These people should be punnished with the full force of the law.

King Ragnar
08-23-2005, 17:01
Those that cause animal cruelty should be given cruelty by the police, its just wrong and sick, i dont know how people would be able to such a thing.

Steppe Merc
08-23-2005, 17:09
Animal cruelty is wrong. However, you can't fight evil with evil. Murdering people will not help animals, only hurt them.