ORG Time Line

[Soulforged]

With the permition of the moderators i would like to prove this: Seem like many of you read a lot about history (i'm just a child compared to almost anyone here :embarassed: ) so i was thinking on constructing a timeline. So there's no discussion between believers and not believers i'l just pass through the Big Bang and the years of biological evolution until the first homosapiens appeared. But as this times are in open (and heated) discussion between scientifics, i sugest that we start from the first sign of civilization on known history. From there we will advance and see what discussions appear. If this works then we can even do an alternative ORG timeline (just an idea). But please just post supported arguments and history, keep personal business out. So i'll ask the first question: What was the first known civilization?


PS: Mods, if you see that this thread leads nowhere, have the mercy of put an end to it. ~D

[conon394]

Do you mean a whole culture/regional edifice or just the earliest ‘town’. I think Jerico, Catal Huyuk (and maybe Erbil) are the usual suspects for earliest sophisticated settled faming towns. But I don’t know if you can rightly call any of them a civilization. Personally I would say the Sumerians are the earliest civilization; Emerging by the early 4th millennium BC.

[Soulforged]

What about the alternative history proposed by others? Like the "homelands", Atlantis...and Lemuria? I think that in this matter will be better to just make conclusions, because the this has been discussed in another thread. If this is not accepted then you're right, the Summerians.

[conon394]

Well on Atlantis at least, their is simply no argument to make: Atlantis is a Platonic Allegory (like the ring of Gyges or the Cave of Socrates), it begins and ends with its creator. To the extent that it resemble any other place is coincidence, combined with the fact that Plato was a talented and creative writer who took the time to decorate his rhetorical creations with more than just the bare bones of a story.

Edit:A further thought, there a huge bit of cherry picking the evidence with Plato’s Atlantis story. Plato asserts that Athens was technologically comparable to Atlantis in his story, in other words that at some remote pre-civilization data (9000 BC or whatever), not only was there an Atlantis but there was a Greece with an Athens that was just as advanced. The second part of that equation is demonstrably not true, so why should the first part be true?

[caesar44]

Well on Atlantis at least, their is simply no argument to make: Atlantis is a Platonic Allegory (like the ring of Gyges or the Cave of Socrates), it begins and ends with its creator. To the extent that it resemble any other place is coincidence, combined with the fact that Plato was a talented and creative writer who took the time to decorate his rhetorical creations with more than just the bare bones of a story.

Edit:A further thought, there a huge bit of cherry picking the evidence with Plato’s Atlantis story. Plato asserts that Athens was technologically comparable to Atlantis in his story, in other words that at some remote pre-civilization data (9000 BC or whatever), not only was there an Atlantis but there was a Greece with an Athens that was just as advanced. The second part of that equation is demonstrably not true, so why should the first part be true?

Atlantis did existed !!! oh , sorry , it is Atlanta...
Btw the people living in Atlanta are Atlantians ? ( ~D )

[Rodion Romanovich]

With the permition of the moderators i would like to prove this: Seem like many of you read a lot about history (i'm just a child compared to almost anyone here :embarassed: ) so i was thinking on constructing a timeline. So there's no discussion between believers and not believers i'l just pass through the Big Bang and the years of biological evolution until the first homosapiens appeared. But as this times are in open (and heated) discussion between scientifics, i sugest that we start from the first sign of civilization on known history. From there we will advance and see what discussions appear. If this works then we can even do an alternative ORG timeline (just an idea). But please just post supported arguments and history, keep personal business out. So i'll ask the first question: What was the first known civilization?


PS: Mods, if you see that this thread leads nowhere, have the mercy of put an end to it. ~D

I think it'd be a huge work to create a full timeline in one thread like this, not to mention how hard it would be to overview all contributions. A quite good, although not entirely reliable, timeline can be found in wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100 - just an example of the century by century timelines.