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VAE VICTUS
08-26-2005, 17:02
im looking for examples of corruption and hedonism in all high civilisations,but especially rome,i love juvenal's satire when he talks of the people wanting panem et circenses.also when did the people of rome become a mob?

Seamus Fermanagh
08-26-2005, 17:12
One inherently flawed system was the use of publicani backed by local military.

Or you might ask the Hellenes how so much of their artwork ended up in Roman hands....

Seamus

VAE VICTUS
08-26-2005, 18:26
One inherently flawed system was the use of publicani backed by local military.

Or you might ask the Hellenes how so much of their artwork ended up in Roman hands....

Seamus

elaborate please.not quite sure what your talking about and where you are going with it.

Kagemusha
08-26-2005, 19:43
Majority of Roman Provincial Governers were notorius robbers and highly corrupted.

Geoffrey S
08-26-2005, 20:51
You could try looking up stuff about Nero's 'arbiter elegantiae', Petronius.

caesar44
08-27-2005, 20:09
The Romans ? Corruption ? hedonism ? never heard of it !!! ( ~;) , just in case...)

Uesugi Kenshin
08-27-2005, 20:51
Caligula had a couple of great barges built on a lake, I forget what lake. It was the one that Mussolini drained via an ancient Roman tunnel so that he could get to the ships.

One was a temple ship with oars and such, while the other was basically a small palace that had to be towed around. They served no real purpose until the 20th century whjen they were used to learn more about ancient Roman boat-building techniques. All that Caligula did on these boats was pursue hedonistic pleasures with his pals.