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nokhor
08-30-2005, 05:30
i just watched yet another episode of the original trek where kirk and co. beam down to planet x.

kirk: "tricorder readings mr. spock"

spock: "well, there's a large unknown energy source coming from Great Leader of planet x's castle"

kirk: "let's head on over there and talk to Great Leader."

they get to Great Leader's hideaway....

spock: "captain, my tricorder indicates that Great Leader is [dunh dunh dunnnh] a computer."

Great Leader: "that may be true, but i've put an end to poverty, war, sickness, disease and the natives are wealthier than ever..."

kirk: "but you...are...just-a-machine!"

Great Leader: "can i finish? as i was saying, the natives now all speak 7 languages, and live in perfect harmony and..."

kirk "but you...are...just-a-machine!!"

Great Leader: "yes but there is no crime here, no evil, i can't understand your irrational..."

kirk: "you're irrational"

Great Leader: "no, you're irrational and illogical"

kirk: "no, you're illogical"

Great Leader: "no, you're illogical"

kirk: "but YOU...ARE...JUST-A-MACHINE!!!"

kirk: "i've seen enough, red shirts, whip out your phasers"

flash forward after the dust settles. a crowd of natives menacingly appears and one steps forward.

native: "what have you done?? you've killed Great Leader, our entire civilization is now destroyed!!!."

kirk: "no need to thank me, you may not have food to eat tomorrow, but at least no uppity machine is going to be making life easy for you anymore."

kirk: "errm scotty, beam us up fast. my work is done here."

episode concludes. ok, i can see that maybe rodenberry had a fondness for that theme, buy i don't see why he had to show it over and over and over again to make sure we got it. but then again maybe things were just a little different back then.

lars573
08-30-2005, 06:55
I'd say things were different back then. And that type of thing is why I can't stand the original series. That and the horrid 60's TV directing.

GodsPetMonkey
08-30-2005, 07:40
but then again maybe things were just a little different back then.

:dizzy2:

It's quite simple really...

Computers run on electricity
Electricity is delivered via wires
Wires can come wrapped in plastic
This plastic can be red
Red is a communist colour
Therefore, computers are communist!!! Simple really, I can't understand how you didn't see it!

Kirk didn't destroy a computer ruled utopia, he liberated the natives from a tyrannical communist dictatorship!

~;)

(nb. Your computer is not communist, it is not attempting to turn your house into a workers paradise... put the sledge hammer away... that’s right, now take your pills... good boy)

Mikeus Caesar
08-30-2005, 10:19
The song 'Star Trekkin' by the Firm makes fun of this in one particular line:

Ships captain, James T Kirk:
Ahoh! We come in peace,
Shoot to kill,
Shoot to kill,
Shoot to kill.
We come in peace,
Shoot to kill,
Scotty beam me up!

Mouzafphaerre
08-30-2005, 17:45
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I sort of remember that episode a tad different but it's been years anyway...
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Reverend Joe
08-31-2005, 00:28
I thought the first episode was that really random one with the guys with huge brains, and the other guy who got replaced by Shatner. I watched it once, but I was high as hell, and I was mostly watching it for laughs.

Wishazu
08-31-2005, 02:57
i love the original series, it doesnt take itself too seriously, the later ones were good but i wish all the characters would pull their heads out of the behinds.

Aenlic
08-31-2005, 06:14
It's still better than Hercules tooling around space. Where'd Herc get the spaceship anyway? And where's Xena? And that annoying little guy with the blonde hair?

Gawain of Orkeny
08-31-2005, 06:47
Are you talking about the one where the computer has wars and people report to the extermination chambers?

Mikeus Caesar
08-31-2005, 11:40
I thought the first episode was that really random one with the guys with huge brains, and the other guy who got replaced by Shatner. I watched it once, but I was high as hell, and I was mostly watching it for laughs.

You're referring to the cage. I didn't like that one much.

Beirut
08-31-2005, 11:45
Are you talking about the one where the computer has wars and people report to the extermination chambers?

That would be A Taste of Armageddon.

"Mr. Scott. General Order 24 in two hours!"

Trekkie and proud of it. ~D

nokhor
08-31-2005, 13:52
It's still better than Hercules tooling around space. Where'd Herc get the spaceship anyway? And where's Xena? And that annoying little guy with the blonde hair?

hera threw heracles into an alternate dimension where he had to battle an earlier heracles from an earlier time who turned out to be a california governor who turned out to be a cyborg from the future. heracles built a spaceship from the body parts of the cyborg and is trying to find his way back home. xena got knocked up and changed her name to sarah connor and the blonde guy actually did the knocking up. you must have missed that episode.

as for star trek, despite the horifically bad sets and overacting, i like the original for the same reason i like the next gen and don't care for any of the others. namely the awesome sci-fi concepts and the ethical dillemas. but they must have been a budgetary issue or something. "well, we only have $30,000 for the next episode so we'll have to do Man vs Machine again. but this time, we'll paint the aliens blue. no one will notice."

lars573
08-31-2005, 15:22
It's still better than Hercules tooling around space. Where'd Herc get the spaceship anyway? And where's Xena? And that annoying little guy with the blonde hair?
He turned into an andriod and dyed his hair black. But I like Hercules tooling around in space. Great show, leagues and leagues better than the original Star Trek. Except for Rhade, dimbulb moron he is.

Mouzafphaerre
08-31-2005, 16:36
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Trekkie and proud of it. ~D
There you go! ~D
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Reverend Joe
09-02-2005, 01:24
You're referring to the cage. I didn't like that one much.

You mean as an actual episode or in terms of watching it while high? Because I thought it was pretty funny.

ichi
09-02-2005, 06:23
Trekkie and proud of it.

Sailin on to Eden, yeah, brother

ichi ~:cheers: (one with Landrew)