the hall of fame

[leoknite]

here and interesting question to all online players old and new, who out there knows of any great players that are shogun hall of fame type material, retired or still playing! Some may remember Seb4969, the great magyarkhan and FearAmp are all great player that are hall of shogun fame type material, anyone else really know of any, and dont be saying well once this guy named such and such beat me and he's really good, but most of us dont know who he is!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[Magyar Khan]

u got the names of the greatest generals but
there are some Hall Of Fame names which belong in different categories and contributed much to the game, imo u should not forgot those

tech support: Erado (unrivaled)
most talked about daimyos: Attending (?)
most fearful clans: ???
mod makers: Tosa and some others

and so on..... (best signature?)





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[Whitey]

it is always difficult to put the names of the best down on paper...there are plenty of generals out there who have played about 100, won 80 lost 20, doesn't that rate a hall-of fame?...tricky business

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If you havn't seen it yet...its already too late.

[leoknite]

u got a point magy, but most feared clan back in the day was chaos you remember magy, largest clan of all time was kenchikuka(active as well inactive members) yes there are many categories to fill in if anyone knows that someone or someonez is the best in a certain field post up! Also post the best generals of all time it would be good to see, because before many of todays shoguners there were great players, once there was a master rusher!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[leoknite]

I say hall of fame dont matter of wins it just means greatest in certain fields,the guys who can be remembered!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[This message has been edited by leoknite (edited 12-25-2000).]

[Whitey]

Aye - I suppose so...if you are a legend you are a legend, but there must be spots for 'most battles' or 'most wins' or 'best win/loss ration' or something like that, something quantitive - Magyar Kahn has apparently taken on a mystical aura since I have been away (last played - October) and that deserves respect but I think that a 'most battles fought' hall of fame position would be good too, the idea of a grizzled old taisho of the campaigns of countless Daimyo and countless battles - with a scar and a story for each one. (OK - I am writing a film script here but you get my point?)

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If you havn't seen it yet...its already too late.

Hehe, hot topic.

For me the greatest on the battlefield have to be honourable even outside and Maggy and LinkSan excel in this. They are my favourites.

Outside the battlefield there are many how are up for the title, certainly for tech support, erado is the man and also unrivaled.

For other stw concerns there are many up for the title....there is no list I think.

I have a site, be active and try to be friend of everybody, have some responabilities in clan concerns and that's all. My efforts are secondary http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif but still give some fun to the community http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif hehe


and then there is the most powerful man title as well.....that is hot surely !

Anyway, we are no-where Battle Of the Shoguners here, the efforts of all these community members make a joint power which doesn't fear anyone. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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[This message has been edited by Terazawa Tokugawa (edited 12-25-2000).]

[ShadowKill]

well lets see here here are the people that come to mind sorry if i mis spell any of the names Seb4969,Magyarkhan,katsuchiyo,Fearamp,these are the the only guys that have ever been able to kill me consitantly ethier def or att. so I give props out to thoughs fine gentlemen

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[leoknite]

I wonder who has played the most battles, for me since I have been online, I know I have cleared 2000 in battles friendly and competitive, mainly friendly, does anyone remember the great player of yester year, before magy has gotten the aura of greatness, my memories of the days is etchi, I do remember seb4969 but thats where it stops. Does any of you fellow vets like myself remember some of these great players!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[ShadowKill]

my fav. victory that i will love for a long time was this one http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

1 So FearOrBeSori Fearful Ways Attack 5000 464 Lost
2 Nasu FeArofRyUkEn Fearful Ways Attack 5000 367 Lost
3 Yamamoto BlackshipRA Viking Ronin Attack 5000 347 Lost
4 Mori ShadowSamurai Hideto Matsumoto Defense 5000 501 Team Win
5 Kosaka kingcostasa cosakas Defense 5000 543 Team Win
6 Watanabe ShadowKill ShadowKnights Defense 5000 739 Team Win

I know it was def but damn i loved that when I never even played with my teammate before and that makes the win even more enjoyable

I had to go back about 2 months to get this record http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif


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[ShadowKill]

ohohoho i forgot Shogun13 http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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[Magyar Khan]

for the tournament which lasted till 2nd August i kept a record of every battle fought. So if i look on that one

I see good players:
Ampmaster (good balanced army)
Shadowkill (hit and run, nearby deployment)
Seb4969 (farmerboy)
Gandalf The Grey (my best student at that time)

These are the names of guys who got some fine remarks on the paper, and made me lose some times.

Then there are names like
Hidetade, Attending (some wins by me cause of drops), Dragonemperor, HuntedChild, Dragoncat, Vonco, Nokhor (=Davout), Deathlord, Octavian, Judge (laggy connection), Mickesan (defending Awaij), Hilly, Warlock, Pdogg, Gemna (the cheat) , Elmarko (has a daughter), Namek, Khayman Sakurai, Wolfie, Kuno Akechi, Katsuchicho, Soul, Lunchbox, slythly (rush), Momotaro (kenchikuka).

Most of those are still active, with some little namechanges.

i dont think i got 2000 battles, i mostly play comp games, magyar has 1200 or so, and some other names a few hundreds, i think 1700-2000 battles for me. I think amp got a lot battles.

I have memorable battles when chaos challenged Kenchikuka and i had the honour defending Kenchikuka against them.

[ShadowKill]

who was the father son team from OZ i forgot the names but they were always fun to play http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
and huntedchild that is a name i have not seen i a long time http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif what ever happened to him
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[This message has been edited by ShadowKill (edited 12-26-2000).]

[Minagawa Daimon]

Id give my 2 kokus worth of suggestion...honorable Magyarkhan and FearAmp are the legendary taishos of this game. honor to them. Appare chushin!

[Magyar Khan]

i think amp and me will agree on this, we have very different playing styles and we are waiting for he, The Chosen One, who can beat us both on regular basis.
Who will pull the sword out of the stone?

[Magyar Khan]

sorry that u had to read this, but u were happy to make your comment. please tell us your online name

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[Rob]

To Red Peasant:

Your recent post to this thread has been removed. It is the policy here at the Sword Dojo to remove posts which contain obscene language, which your post contained.

This is the first time I have ever had to delete a post, and I do not enjoy having to do it. Please, do not give me any reasons to do it again.

[leoknite]

well anyone can beat amp and magy on a regular basis if they practiced enough, heck if I practiced as much as the other mighty players online, I would be able to put my name as one of the hall of famers, o well always next year!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[This message has been edited by leoknite (edited 12-27-2000).]

[ShadowKill]

what he say what he say http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif why you have to delete it before i could read it http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/mad.gif

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[This message has been edited by ShadowKill (edited 12-27-2000).]

[theforce]

It must be fearAMP. Good man and general. I haven't played MagyarKhan but l have a felling l know the outcome of the game thanks to theforce lol.

[The Scourge]

Don't worry shadowkill.It was no big deal.
Actually,i thought we were allowed to swear.
I would say it was removed ,because it was ment to insult,which is a better reason .

[Rob]

It was a blatant flame which contained swearing - it was not removed for the swearing but for the fact that it was a blatant flame.

Sorry my previous message wasn't too clear...

To get back on-topic, I would say that the clan that has beaten me most often would be Fearful Ways - I have also found them to be the most honourable clan in many ways. Best opponent? Well, I have been beaten by many great players so I can't really pick one. I only ever played Magy once and won, though it was against his fun army. I have always avoided playing him again, therefore allowing me to claim a 100% record against one of the greatest Shogun players http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Honour to clan Takiyama

[solypsist]

The only FearfulWays clan member who beat me was Bong. The fact that he thrashed me while he was stoned cold adds insult to injury.
http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif


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[Magyar Khan]

MizuRob, is that your online name? than u are on my hunting list.....

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[ElmarkOFear]

LOL ROB, looks like you will be an extra in the latest shogun movie . . . "The Wrath Of Khan!" bwahahahahah Magya has a special place on his fireplace mantel for your ears. Right next to his littlest mongol's first pair of enemy ears. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif Elmarko Of Fearful Ways

[TomisamaRA]

How about a vote (ya I know about FL http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/cool.gif,but seriously) like any award thing, a yearly nomination and vote for Hall of Fame categories?

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Honour is Honour!!! Death is Death!!! Don't get confused...

[leoknite]

hey I like that idea

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[Magyar Khan]

dunno if voting will create clearness, since there is some clan-inbreeding and personal favors which go further than just the measure of skills. furthermore i would like to eliminate those players from the hall of fame who can do just 1 trick on a certain map in a very good way and impresses tons of newcomers with it. we had those guys here....

so maybe it is better to let it be more mystical, like soccerplayers from the 50's, 60's and early 70's.

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[TomisamaRA]

Of course this is open to editing, but possibly:

Total War Hall of Fame for the year 2000
Submit your nominations (and why) for:

Most Worthy Opponent
(your worst nightmare)
An opportunity to Honour your Enemy.

Most Worthy Comrade
(who you want at your back)
A chance to Honour your Friends.

Most Honourable Player
(for encouragement and support)
A way to say Thank You.

Whatdaya think???



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Honour is Honour!!! Death is Death!!! Don't get confused...

[leoknite]

maybe vets like us magy can get together and make a totalwar awards group, guys who aint biast, or we can get nominations and have people test if these guys really fit the criteria!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[Minagawa Daimon]

greetings, my i know the name of the upstart who made tht flame thread? and im curious as to what was inside it...been away from the game for a while due to "real world" affairs, hope to clash armies with everyone soon when ill be free to lead my men into the field of battle. To the scarred veterans,keep up the torch, to the younger ones, fight like theres no tomorrow and u will grow strong. Appare chushin to those who follow the ways of Kantorai-shido!

[The Daimyo]

Ahem....

http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/turb/normal.gif

Looks Like I need to do some work here....hmmm


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Miaowara "Kakizaki" Tomokato
@http://www.planettotalwar.com

[UglyJun]

ahemm i think you forgot the TERAZAWA TWINS
JUN and amaury terazawa now both Links
many legendary victories :lol

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LinkJun of The Chain Clan

[leoknite]

You know I want the academy award!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[Magyar Khan]

leo... the most creative director?

[leoknite]

I get the academy for leo the most famous leo in shogun buhahaha!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[Obake]

Hmmmmm....... A hall of fame huh? Let's see........................

There are several exceptional players with specialists in single player and team. There are however 3 that I would characterize as legendary. They are as follows (in no particular order);

MagyarKhan
AMP
LinkSan

There are others that I would say were close to Legendary status. Among these I would name JstFeared and the recently returned LinkOctavian.

As to who I would most want to have protecting my flank in a 2x2..... that is a difficult decision, but I would have to say ElmarkOFear.

The most prolific clan is my own Fearful Ways with over 4000 battles fought. I have no idea which is the most fearsome. Most prolific players are Magyar and JstFeared.

Of course any mention of a Hall of Fame would require contributions to the game outside of actually playing. To that end I would second Magyar's nomination of Eradosan for his work on the technical side of the game. I would also have to include the Org for their contribution to the game since before there was a game!

That rounds out my selections for the Hall of Fame. I don't think there are two many suprises with my picks. I like this idea though and would like to see something a little more formal set up. Maybe someone could set some ground rules for nominations along with a timeframe and catagories. Then there could be a voting period followed by some type of an Award. I don't know, I'm just rambling here.......

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I am the ghost of your fears.
Got a compliment or concern about a Fearful Ways member? Let us know about it HERE (http://pub24.ezboard.com/bfearfulways)

Thanks to the men outside the scenes of the battlefield! That is all the shoguners out there and thanks to Creative Assembly for such a great game!

Thamks to Erado for his support and guys like Obake and co. for being great sustainers and friends.

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[leoknite]

I dont think it should just be based on best guy right now, maybe an award can go out to be rookie err newbie of shogun, or best rusher,maybe there should be an award site honouring people each year for their contribution, or bravery on shogun!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[OUT4BLOOD]

what a about a talent/age ratio thingy?

[leoknite]

hmmmm what does that mean out 4?

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[TomisamaRA]

Sorry for adding any confusion above.
I think we need some concept separation.

In hindsight:

A Hall of Fame Award is an achievement level award (like a thousand wins), and is good for a lifetime.

An Academy Award is an annual election by the society (like best player 2000), and can be nominated and won year after year!

A Trophy Award could also be introduced to spur on the competition, passed (or not) to the leading clan every year.

A Believe It Or Not record book (most of anything to date).


There are probably many other possibilities as well, but the Hall of Fame in my view is a MUST DO, and ASAP!




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Honour is Honour!!! Death is Death!!! Don't get confused...

[OUT4BLOOD]

it means that old players get all the recognision just coz they have more advanced brains lol

[TomisamaRA]

Sorry for adding any confusion above.
I think we need some concept separation.

In hindsight:

A Hall of Fame Award is an achievement level award (like a thousand wins), and is good for a lifetime.

An Academy Award is an annual election by the society (like best player 2000), and can be nominated and won year after year!

A Trophy Award could also be introduced to spur on the competition, passed (or not) to the leading clan every year.

A Believe It Or Not record book (most of anything to date).


There are probably many other possibilities as well, but the Hall of Fame in my view is a MUST DO, and ASAP!

[TomisamaRA]

http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/redface.gif

[ShadowKill]

here one for you the guy who takes the most fun out of the game hmm i vote fo Attending fotr that one

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[Magyar Khan]

i agree with TomisamaRA.....

[TomisamaRA]

Hmmm!

What’s probably needed now is a (non-clan) sponsor for a player’s association page (org?). I think membership in the association should be automatic, with product serial number being the qualifier as required. The Hall of Fame of course is automatic too, but would require registration of record by SN; other awards may involve nominations and voting by SN. Using the serial number makes it simple (already in place) and as honest as it gets.

Inspiration is the easy part, now the work starts. It's up to larger brains and more capable hands (I hope they are listening).

Hang in there Magyar Sama http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

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[ElmarkOFear]

I nominate myself as "Shogun's Ugliest Warrior". I also think that I could win the "Most likely to run from the battlefield" award. LOL Also, I would like to nominate Jun as the "Humblest Shogun!" LOL :P Elmarko of Fearful Ways

[leoknite]

Whatever anyone wants to do I'm willing to help, but we must find a way to make it work,
o well I dont have enough brain power to make this work, so count me for the grunt work!

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Ronin alliance our power lies in our seperated nature, and united we are as strong as any clan, honour to alliance!

[sonic_nights]

I received a mail from Torisama asking if me and the other guys behind ShogunZone are willing to help doing this project.
Today I talked with Biowulf (he does the asp and other programming for ShogunZone while I do everithing else) and he agreed to do it.
Now, I can't guarantee that you'll have the best quality ever but we'll definitely try our best http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

I'll do the design of the site for this hall of fame (I only did ShogunZone and this new italian site clan before...http://www.nipogames.com/shogun/luna_rossa/frame.htm I hope they're good enough http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif )

Now, all we need are precise directions on what to do, we do the work but you thought about all and I would like as many suggestions as possible to see everyone's ideas on this project.
If we have problems doing what you ask, I'll tell you asap and eventually ask here for help...

ok, that's all. BYE!




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[TomisamaRA]

Thank you Sonic_Nights and Biowulf. Looking forward to meeting both of you (one at a time) in battle someday to find out if you are as fierce as warriors as you are gracious and kind.

Have been going over the posts to date (21 pages printed) and so far can see at least two major divisions:

ANNUAL AWARDS for the BEST of a category. These could be elected by nomination and vote of the society, with the winners entered in the Hall of Fame, for all time.

RECORD BOOK for the MOST of a category. Registered by the record holder (with validation) and possibly updated on a regular basis with latest and greatest on top.

Haven’t had time to compile any categories yet (anyone could do this, don't wait for me if you have the time), but did come up with a possible title for the page:

The SHOGUN Zone
International Society of
TOTAL WAR
Players
HALL OF FAME

Just reading the words in caps reads, SHOGUN TOTAL WAR HALL OF FAME of course. Or whatever, I’m sure you could make this or any other title look great!

Can’t wait to hear from others on this. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks again, so much!



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[sonic_nights]

The Annual Award would be fairly easy to do.
First we should define categories.
Then we should ask people to send emails suggesting three people max to be nominated and when all the entries are in we'll do the voting.


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[TomisamaRA]

OK! What I think we have so far (although some terms are different) are the following:

In the ANNUAL AWARDS for the Total War Societies competition for the BEST of a category. For the year 2000, the top three players (three for each, winner and runners up for all TITLES and RECORDS) for the TITLE of:

GREATEST PLAYER

BEST SUPPORTING PLAYER

MOST HONOURABLE PLAYER

For the year 2000, the top three sources for the TITLE of:

BEST TECHNICAL SUPPORT

BEST SUPPORTING PROGRAMMER

BEST SUPPORTING SITE


In the RECORD BOOK (I’ll add this now as it’s done) for The Total War Societies competition for the MOST of a category. To date, the top three players with the best competitive RECORD for the:

MOST WINS

MOST BATTLES

BEST WIN TO LOSS RATIO

To date, the top three clans for the RECORD of:

LARGEST CLAN


Of course “add a category” could be a feature of the site. I stuck to only positive things as this is to advance the game and not to make a Hall of Flames. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

Thank you again Sonic_Nights and all at the Shogun Zone!



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[leoknite]

what about most famous ronin or most famous veteran!
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[solypsist]

We also need:

PLAYER MOST LIKELY TO DROP WHEN LOSING

PLAYER MOST LIKELY TO USE AN ALL MUSKET ARMY

and

PLAYER MOST LIKELY TO ABUSE WINNER IN CHAT ROOM AFTER THE BATTLE

[sonic_nights]

I'm trying to think of a nice site design for this project. I want to make something nice so if you guys have any suggestion or images you think may be useful (great japan samurai images are always welcome http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif) to send me this is my email: akuma.san@tin.it or just post your comments here. Thanks.
As I told you Biowulf has agreed to help for all the programming (I'll do some myself if I manage to learn something these days http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif) and as things are taking shape now he should be able to manage everything and I think there are no problems.
The only thing I want to make clear is that we do the site for fun but we won't be able to keep it updated. Someone has to do it. There will probably be some kind of update form to make everything simple and automatic. Let me know if there are problems about it.
Tomorrow (oh, well, today...it's 4:30 am here in belgium:rolleyes) I'll start working on some basic layout for the site and I'll post something here as soon as I have something to show, very soon hopefully...
BYE!


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[sonic_nights]

Well, Hello everyone! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
I guess my "very soon" wasn't a good prediction: unfortunately I had some real-life things to attend to (uhm...holidays...noooo) and I was able to continue the job only these days.
Anyway, I hope you are still interested in this interesting project.
The site for the Shogun Hall of Fame is finished(apart for some little tweaking here and there like the cursor on the "CLICK HERE" link) and I hope you'll like it. I have to warn you first though, It's a quite particular site layout...it's uncommon but I think it suits well the "Hall of fame" idea.
I know some of you won't like it but I hope that the biggest part of you will...
http://www.nipogames.com/shogun/HallofFame/

don't pay attention to the complicated url, anyone who finds a good hosting alternative is welcome (the site is not more than 1mb large).
The categories are based on the posts above this one. If you want some categories added or removed, just ask...

Now we need to etablish nominations: the project isn't mine so I'll let you (I mean the ones who had this idea) decide the number of nominees. When these are established, averyone will be able to vote in each category. As stated in the initial project, your cd-key number will be required for voting.

That's all for now and I hope you are still interested in all this.
Sorry again for taking so long. BYE!

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ShogunZone
http://www.nipogames.com/shogun

[sonic_nights]

oh, by the way, you need the flash plugin to view it.

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ShogunZone
http://www.nipogames.com/shogun

[Erado San]

Very original design, I like it.

So, when can we actually vote? I guess you need nominations first, right?

[Heims30]

Well, I've only played 2x online, hoping to up that count, but I can tell you who one of the most feared and respected players is. Magyar Khan. Just from reading the threads here, all the other people address him with respect and fear in their voices, whether discussing his tactics or nothing in particular.

[sonic_nights]

right, we need nominations first. I think that the people who had the idea of the Hall of Fame should think about them or we could simply post a messagge with our nominations. here on te forum. (Maybe by starting a new thread to make it much clearer).


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[Link(Micke)San]

I agree with Erado san it looks nice...Good work.

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May the honour be with you all....
-LinkSan Daimyo of The Chain Clan