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Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-07-2005, 01:51
This is the OFFICIAL Imperialist Club thread. We are dedicated to the restoration of Empires and Monarchies non-constitutionally worldwide. The original thread was created by King Malcolm, and I give him full credit for the idea of the Imperialist Club. Co-founder was Henry V.

We are organized into zones, these are:

British Empire

German Empire

The America's Imperialists Underground

Other European Imperialists


There will be 2 officers for each zone, to control political movements, and cigar/beer shipments (FREE UPON JOINING!)

Regional Officer-handles recruitment, sigs, free beer, etc.

General- You all know what this guy does ~D

Please say what zone you want to be in if you join.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-07-2005, 01:52
--Members--

Founders-King Malcolm/Henry V

Head of the Club- Evil Maniac From Mars

GERMAN EMPIRE-
Kaiser of Arabia-General

BRITISH EMPIRE-
Bopa the Magyar
ShadesWolf
King Ragnar
Ian of Smeg16

REST OF EUROPE-
AdrianII-Captain of the Pudding Commandos

American Underground-
Ghost908

OTHER-

Aenlic
09-07-2005, 02:09
Can I be listed in the section for the autonomous anarcho-syndicalist commune?

Papewaio
09-07-2005, 02:46
Imperialists vs Hillbillies

Greatest difference is the banjo.

Strike For The South
09-07-2005, 03:23
The welsh will never be subjugated never :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge:

lars573
09-07-2005, 03:28
Except they already are. ~;)

King Ragnar
09-07-2005, 16:26
Im in long live the Queen, Im 100% British.

Big King Sanctaphrax
09-07-2005, 16:28
This thread makes me feel ill.

Duke Malcolm
09-07-2005, 16:50
Good, now you can leave and let us linger in the past in peace.

I must point out, however, that King Henry V is co-founder, since the idea was created by both, I just posted the thread.

Anyhoo, God save the Queen! Rule Brittania! For God and the Empire! Scotland Forever!

lancelot
09-07-2005, 17:02
This thread makes me feel ill.

Cmon, embrace your British heratige... Colonial heartbreakers and land-takers! :charge: ~;)

Aenlic
09-07-2005, 17:10
Rule Brittania...Scotland Forever!

Now that is funny.

King Ragnar
09-07-2005, 17:19
I disagree with america being a zone.

Duke Malcolm
09-07-2005, 17:20
Really? The famous "Scotland Forever!" charge at the battle of Waterloo is where the saying is most famously from, when the Royal Scots Greys (2nd Dragoons) were charging the French, but had to go through the Highland Brigade. While the tune to "Rule Britannia!" was written by an Englishman, the words were written by a Scot. To me, they symbolise the fact that we, too hate the French and fought alongside the English in Waterloo, and unity of this great isle.

What is even more funny is that "God Save the Queen" was originally a French song.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-07-2005, 22:29
I edited the posts, now you have to say what zone you want to be in, whether it is the nation where you live or the nation of your heritage.

Incongruous
09-08-2005, 00:02
God Save The Queen!
Death to new age liberals, death to the Republicans, Long Live Constitutional Monarchy. God Guide Brittania! :charge:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-08-2005, 00:03
I take it you want to join the British Empire?

Kaiser of Arabia
09-08-2005, 00:19
Deutschland!

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-08-2005, 00:28
Kaiser is one of the old crowd, so he can be the German Empire's General.

Papewaio
09-08-2005, 00:36
What is so great about Imperialism?

Shiny buttons on the uniform?

Incongruous
09-08-2005, 12:02
PAH!
What's so great about letting other countries rule themselves?
When we wan't to do it for them?

HaHA I like that one, I might put it on by sig.

Oh yes I wish to join for Britain.

ShadesWolf
09-08-2005, 19:24
As I have stated in the other thread.
Count me in for Britain

BDC
09-08-2005, 19:53
What is so great about Imperialism?

Shiny buttons on the uniform?
And the elephants. Never forget the elephants!

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-09-2005, 21:55
We have cavalry parades. ~D

Ice
09-10-2005, 01:13
I'd like to join the The America's Imperialists Underground. Maybe we can get the old imperial roman empire?

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-10-2005, 02:07
Luxomberg is an opressed Imperialist nation! We must aid them! Ghost is in.

King Henry V
09-11-2005, 15:15
Hooray, I see that in my absence this thread and the hopes of all Imperialists have been resurrected. I am currently in that abode of anti-imperialist, socialist, liberal, pro-european, republican and incompetence, known only as "France". However, upon returning to that haven from the EU, Switzerland, I will resume full duties in this noble club. Pity I missed Last Night of the Proms yesterday.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-11-2005, 15:51
Well, Sir Henry, would you like to be assigned a General, or the Noble position of Co-Founder?

King Henry V
09-11-2005, 16:02
I think the title of Co-Founder suits me. I'll just lie back and let the natives do the work.... ~;)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-11-2005, 16:07
Alright. Living in France...I pity you. :bow: ~;)

Duke Malcolm
09-11-2005, 16:11
Pity I missed Last Night of the Proms yesterday.
So did I... It was going to be even more spectacular than last year's...

JAG
09-11-2005, 17:19
To think, in a few years there will be no House of Lords as we know it, there wil lbe no fox hunting and when old Queeny snuffs it, we will be odds on for a Republic. What great times we are and going to witness. ~:cheers:

Louis VI the Fat
09-11-2005, 17:31
To think, in a few years there will be no House of Lords as we know it, there wil lbe no fox hunting and when old Queeny snuffs it, we will be odds on for a Republic. What great times we are and going to witness. ~:cheers:Hear hear!

Until then, best of luck in your abode of imperialism, conservatism, anti-europeanism, monarchism and privatization-beyond-repair known only as "the United Kingdom". ~;)

JAG
09-11-2005, 17:49
Hear hear!

Until then, best of luck in your abode of imperialism, conservatism, anti-europeanism, monarchism and privatization-beyond-repair known only as "the United Kingdom". ~;)

You are the one with a right wing govt and I am living in the one with a socialist one, thank you very much. ~;)

Duke Malcolm
09-11-2005, 17:52
To think, in a few years there will be no House of Lords as we know it, there wil lbe no fox hunting and when old Queeny snuffs it, we will be odds on for a Republic. What great times we are and going to witness. ~:cheers:

I'm sure that that has been said many a-time before, but if this United Kingdom is to stand, then there must always be a House of Lords and a Monarchy... the United Kingdom cannot be a kingdom without a monarch, after all...
Labour will be out in a few years and I don't see the House of Lords going too soon. Also, who is going to abolish the monarchy? When the un-educated, arrogant lower classes (meaning those of the lower classes who are arrogant and un-educated, not that the lower classes are un-educated and arrogant) try to rise up, I shall be there to stop the heresy and defend this realm.

And King Louis may be right about privatisation-beyond-repair (partly thanks to Mr Blair, and the soon-to-be fully privatised Royal Mail), he can hardly say that France is a haven of Republicanism. What is this, the 5th republic in 2 centuries?

King Ragnar
09-11-2005, 17:59
Gah a Frenchman trying to tell us British how to rule our kingdom, how funny, and JAG you sicken me and the fact your British and wish that the queen dies is also very sickeing, i say we hang him for Treason or throw him out of our wonderful and great Kingdom. Long Love the Queen, fox hunting and the house of lords.

JAG
09-11-2005, 18:00
lmfao.

You clearly have no idea about the three main parties policies / manifestos because ALL had very similar policies regarding the house of Lords - reform, reform, reform and abolishment of all hereditory peers. Great isn't it. ~D


Labour won't be out of power until at least 9 more years - you better get used to it if you haven't so far ~D - and I don't care if we are not a kingdom anymore, drop the stupid name a country is nothing but the people, not a name.

The monarchy shall be abolished within our lifetime, it is a certaincy, which is just fine by me. ~D

Get used to it my friend.

Strike For The South
09-11-2005, 18:01
GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge:

JAG
09-11-2005, 18:03
Gah a Frenchman trying to tell us British how to rule our kingdom, how funny, and JAG you sicken me and the fact your British and wish that the queen dies is also very sickeing, i say we hang him for Treason or throw him out of our wonderful and great Kingdom. Long Love the Queen, fox hunting and the house of lords.

Why thank you and I not only care nothing if the Queen dies, but I wouldn't care if all of the monarchy died, it would be as if any other person had died. You know what is even better? An increasing amount of people agree with me plus those who don't are increasingly dieing out. ~D

Duke Malcolm
09-11-2005, 18:03
Abolishing the hereditary peers is one thing, but the ConservaTories do not want to abolish the House. If I was in charge, I would make it an odd system of PR, with 70% or so of the House being of Parties, depending on the votes in the Election. But only party members with a life peerage can apply for a seat. The remainder of the seats are for the Lords Spiritual, the Lords of Appeal, and the Crossbenches (also selected from a list of life peers).

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-11-2005, 19:28
Now, if I may make this quite clear, our new primary motives (open to suggestions from the Founders, of course):

To install non-constitutional or constitutional monarchies in:

Germany (we have the Princes and Barons, why not Kaisers?)
France (we don't care if you don't want it!)
Ireland (Irish Kings)
other European countries

To support the Imperialistic (constitutional or not) governments of:

United Kingdom
Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Monaco
Spain
Sweden
Greece

Duke Malcolm
09-11-2005, 20:01
Don't forget Greece is the Hellenic Republic, we need the monarchy back there, perhaps Philip will be willing for that, and we can expand the Empire into the Hellenic Peninsula...

I'm sure that there will be enough support in France for a monarchy, they can't stay with one type of government for more than a century.

Ireland is to rejoin the United Kingdom...

They still have princes and barons in germany?

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-11-2005, 20:04
I think perhaps Irish rule as a monarchy will fit the bill. :bow:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-11-2005, 20:05
Yes, we still have Princes and Barons in Germany. Or at least we did last time I checked.

Louis VI the Fat
09-11-2005, 20:19
Now, if I may make this quite clear, our new primary motives (open to suggestions from the Founders, of course):

To install non-constitutional or constitutional monarchies in:

Germany (we have the Princes and Barons, why not Kaisers?)
France (we don't care if you don't want it!
And King Louis [...] can hardly say that France is a haven of Republicanism. What is this, the 5th republic in 2 centuries?Pah! I don't care if it takes another five hundred republics still. We will take to the barricades again and again until the idea prevails that each man is free, and that he is the equal of all and the subject of none.

Even your oft-derided colonial offspring across the pond got it right. They refuse to sweat and toil indefinately for a gang of inbred aristocrats. ~:cheers:

Duke Malcolm
09-11-2005, 20:39
Ahem, isn't you're current Prime Minister one of those inbred aristocrats who seemingly slipped through the revolution?

Ser Clegane
09-11-2005, 20:56
@ evil_maniac from mars: Check your PM, please

Louis VI the Fat
09-11-2005, 21:16
Ahem, isn't you're current Prime Minister one of those inbred aristocrats who seemingly slipped through the revolution?We've let a few of them survive for sheer curiousity value. :book:

Ice
09-12-2005, 03:34
Now, if I may make this quite clear, our new primary motives (open to suggestions from the Founders, of course):

To install non-constitutional or constitutional monarchies in:

Germany (we have the Princes and Barons, why not Kaisers?)
France (we don't care if you don't want it!)
Ireland (Irish Kings)
other European countries

To support the Imperialistic (constitutional or not) governments of:

United Kingdom
Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
Monaco
Spain
Sweden
Greece

~:cheers:

Kaiser of Arabia
09-12-2005, 03:40
GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge:
GOD SAVE THE CONFDERACY! :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge:


Yeah.

Strike For The South
09-12-2005, 03:43
GOD SAVE THE CONFDERACY! :charge: :charge: :charge: :charge:
Yeah.

CONFEDERACY please if you are going to be a rebel spell it right and we will have to get rid of that hoorrid new joy-zee accnet and yes


GOD SAVE THE SOUTH FROM THE DAMNED YANKEE INVADERS

Kaiser of Arabia
09-12-2005, 03:47
CONFEDERACY please if you are going to be a rebel spell it right and we will have to get rid of that hoorrid new joy-zee accnet and yes


GOD SAVE THE SOUTH FROM THE DAMNED YANKEE INVADERS
Typo. I type at about 100 wpm somet9jemakd and when i do it i make alot of mismstajkeks. Like so.

Papewaio
09-12-2005, 03:52
Imperialism:
The Diet Coke version of Facism. The only difference being that it survives longer then a generation of inbred leadership.

Duke Malcolm
09-12-2005, 16:01
We are not fascists, or at least we British members are not. We support equality, just so long as the British are incharge.

King Ragnar
09-12-2005, 16:08
We are not fascists, or at least we British members are not. We support equality, just so long as the British are incharge.

Hear Hear. Long Live British Rule.

King Ragnar
09-12-2005, 16:12
Why thank you and I not only care nothing if the Queen dies, but I wouldn't care if all of the monarchy died, it would be as if any other person had died. You know what is even better? An increasing amount of people agree with me plus those who don't are increasingly dieing out. ~D


And those who agree with you are probably wasters and low lifes and have no pride to British, or they are foreign immigrants who bring shame to this country and dont respect the fact that we have let them come to live hear and should at least respect our countries traditions etc.

Kagemusha
09-12-2005, 17:06
I was just wondering if there are any nobles among the ranks of your Imperialistic club?If not,how do you peasants would react if your beloved nobles would reinstate the jus primae noctis? :grin:

Duke Malcolm
09-12-2005, 17:14
That didn't happen here... I wouldn't really care. But not only that, I am not a peasant, I am middle class...

Adrian II
09-12-2005, 17:20
I don't want to interrupt anything, but could you lads grant me a bit of land in the sou'west on The Low Lands - say the Duchy of Breda, just so I can ride around on a horse, save damsels in distress, scare the peasants, that sort of thing. I don't need any colonies to go with it, I'll be perfectly happy without diarrhea, restless natives and other manifest destinies.

Crazed Rabbit
09-12-2005, 17:46
Pah! I don't care if it takes another five hundred republics still. We will take to the barricades again and again until the idea prevails that each man is free, and that he is the equal of all and the subject of none.

Even your oft-derided colonial offspring across the pond got it right. They refuse to sweat and toil indefinately for a gang of inbred aristocrats.

Hear hear! ~:cheers: But didn't the original declaration of the rights of man include the sacred right to property? Socialism cuts against the grain somewhat on that one.

Crazed Rabbit

King Henry V
09-12-2005, 19:04
I was just wondering if there are any nobles among the ranks of your Imperialistic club?If not,how do you peasants would react if your beloved nobles would reinstate the jus primae noctis? :grin:
Yes, your looking at one, at least the heir to one. The real reason JAG is upset with House of Lords is that they aren't a rubber stamp for his beloved Bliar, even with an in-built Labour majority.

Kagemusha
09-12-2005, 19:13
Yes, your looking at one, at least the heir to one. The real reason JAG is upset with House of Lords is that they aren't a rubber stamp for his beloved Bliar, even with an in-built Labour majority.

Nice to see this is not just a wannabe club. ~:) You know my post about the primae noctis was only a joke.I dont have a genuine intrest on Britain´s internal affairs. ~:cheers:

Duke Malcolm
09-12-2005, 19:30
Oh, I didn't see that you were including heirs...
My (maternal) Grandfather would be the Earl of Donegal if my Great grandmother had been the eldest.
My late (paternal) Grandmother has a brother who is a laird in the North-East of Scotland.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-12-2005, 21:29
I am descended (indirectly) from Schwaben nobility, and I have Prussian barons somewhere in the family line I think. There is even a (VERY slight) possibility I am related to the Margraves of Bradenburg.

King Ragnar
09-12-2005, 21:46
I still havent been added to the British empire yet.....

Papewaio
09-13-2005, 00:33
We are not fascists, or at least we British members are not. We support equality, just so long as the British are incharge.

As long as British are in charge... Why?

Imperialism is a dead force with good reason. The idea even in jest of going back to a system of generational dictatorship is rather sick.


And those who agree with you are probably wasters and low lifes and have no pride to British, or they are foreign immigrants who bring shame to this country and dont respect the fact that we have let them come to live hear and should at least respect our countries traditions etc.

So immigrants are a shame to Britain, or it is a shame that they bring modern concepts like Republic and equality.

Imperialism: KKK without the hood.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-13-2005, 00:53
I still havent been added to the British empire yet.....
Sorry, I will.

King Henry V
09-13-2005, 16:02
As long as British are in charge... Why?

Imperialism is a dead force with good reason. The idea even in jest of going back to a system of generational dictatorship is rather sick.



So immigrants are a shame to Britain, or it is a shame that they bring modern concepts like Republic and equality.

Imperialism: KKK without the hood.
You must see that Neo-Imperialism is a reaction to the Liberal, hippyism socialist movement of Sixties and Seventies.

Adrian II
09-13-2005, 16:07
You must see that Neo-Imperialism is a reaction to the Liberal, hippyism socialist movement of Sixties and Seventies.Right. Any chance I'll get my Duchy yet?

King Ragnar
09-13-2005, 17:10
So immigrants are a shame to Britain, or it is a shame that they bring modern concepts like Republic and equality.
Imperialism: KKK without the hood.

The fact that the bring stupid concepts not modern one's, they should have no say in how the country is run.

The KKK has a hatred of Blacks were did we state that????? ~:confused:

Duke Malcolm
09-13-2005, 17:40
I have nothing against immigrants as long as they respect our country, value it, and such.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-13-2005, 23:05
Right. Any chance I'll get my Duchy yet?
Which Empire did you want to join?

Adrian II
09-13-2005, 23:08
Which Empire did you want to join?Burgundy!

Yes yes, an anachronism, but so are all of you..

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-13-2005, 23:13
Rest of Europe it is. ~;)

Adrian II
09-13-2005, 23:23
Rest of Europe it is. ~;)So I am in the Pudding Race? Yay!

*deploys ridiculous standard*

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-14-2005, 00:08
Puddings? No....you're with France and the Swedish, chum. ~;)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-14-2005, 00:10
Presuming, of course, we HAD any French or Swedes. ~:handball: :rtwyes:

Adrian II
09-14-2005, 00:11
Puddings? No....you're with France and the Swedish, chum. ~;)I see. :furious3:

*folds ridiculous standard*

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-14-2005, 00:19
I can make a new rank for my personal followers, the Pudding Commandos. :argue: :crowngrin:

Adrian II
09-14-2005, 00:25
I can make a new rank for my personal followers, the Pudding Commandos. :argue: :crowngrin:Hmmmpf... http://matousmileys.free.fr/ritter3.gif

*raises Pudding Flag*

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-14-2005, 00:40
We have the first Pudding Commando of the Imperialist Club. :bow:

Adrian II
09-14-2005, 00:46
We have the first Pudding Commando of the Imperialist Club. :bow:
Alright. Harumph! Men! In my capacity as... no wait!...http://matousmileys.free.fr/tomate2.gif

Incongruous
09-14-2005, 01:10
Huuuusssaaaa! Huuuuuusssaaa! God preserve the good speaking middle class against the Tofs and the Sun readers.
Long fight the Pudding Commando's!
Though I quite the idea of the News Squad, bringing death to many a terrible low end shabby lower class peice of un-educated trash such as The SUN.

Long live the middle class, it my the aristocracy's right to rule.
But its our Job!

King Henry V
09-14-2005, 11:21
The Middle Classes were the foundations upon which the Empire was built. Unfortunately a very high proportion of them were killed during that terrible mistake and tragedy, the Great War.

Duke Malcolm
09-14-2005, 16:59
Middle-class and proud...

Nice to see Robert Burns's poetry has spurned a legion of commandos

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-14-2005, 22:23
Whoever quoted that poem to me has my gratitude. :bow: Wasn't there a thread about that a while back?

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-15-2005, 21:37
The Middle Classes were the foundations upon which the Empire was built. Unfortunately a very high proportion of them were killed during that terrible mistake and tragedy, the Great War.
Yes, WW1 ruined the power of the German aristocracy. For shame, Serbia, for shame.

King Henry V
09-17-2005, 18:46
The Serbs always make trouble. Look at what recently happened in the Balkans.

Duke Malcolm
09-17-2005, 18:52
I know, and it started the decline of the Empire...

Ianofsmeg16
09-17-2005, 20:01
Hey, can i join again? I forgot the club re-opened.....put me in the British empire, under ruler of the manx

scooter_the_shooter
09-17-2005, 20:24
You all better calm down or the USA will send you red coats running (again) :charge:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-17-2005, 21:12
*Calls forth Prussia, Britain, and Russia* Try to make them run. Dare you. No nukes allowed. ~D

King Ragnar
09-17-2005, 22:28
LoL you needed the help of the French, now that says alot.:D

scooter_the_shooter
09-17-2005, 22:50
lol you lost to the french....that says alot!

Incongruous
09-18-2005, 00:47
Haha!
Without the French the Rebs would be toast.
Don't forget that we smashed every European power to oblivion to become the most powerful nation on earth by the Grace of God.

scooter_the_shooter
09-18-2005, 01:07
~:) but the french and rebels won! And america replaced you as the world power....learn your place limey scum!

Incongruous
09-18-2005, 06:40
Pah!
We let you win.
When has America ever defaeted multiple World Powers? ~D

Strike For The South
09-18-2005, 06:42
Who has britan ever deafeated men wtih sticks

Pah!
We let you win.
When has America ever defaeted multiple World Powers? ~D


The Revoulution
Spanish-American war
WW1
WW2

Incongruous
09-18-2005, 06:51
Not even close.

Revolution-Defeated Britain (1)
Spanish American war- Well I doubt that by then Spain was a world power (1)
WW1-(Germany1)
WW2-Well I doubt one could call Germany a world poer, a major European power perhaps but not a World power. The Japs however were a world threat (1)

Strike For The South
09-18-2005, 06:55
Not even close.

Revolution-Defeated Britain (1)
Spanish American war- Well I doubt that by then Spain was a world power (1)
WW1-(Germany1)
WW2-Well I doubt one could call Germany a world poer, a major European power perhaps but not a World power. The Japs however were a world threat (1)

Not even close what you lost me ~:confused: and Germany was a wrold power just ask the poles or the austrians or the French

King Henry V
09-18-2005, 11:30
Who has britan ever deafeated men wtih sticks



The Revoulution
Spanish-American war
WW1
WW2
Hello multiple world powers. In the Revoltion Spain, France and the Low Countries were at war with Britain.

Spanish-American War
The Spanish Empire was all but lost. The major colonies in Latin America had fallen away and there were left only a few Carribean islands and the Philippines. Whatsmore, America was industrialised, Spain wasn't.

WWI
It would probably been better in the long run had Germany won, so America shouldn't have intervened. And anyway, on your one, like everyone else, Germany would have completely defeated you. The Allies would not have been able to win without America, nor vice-versa.

WWII
Come on, you have to admit that the real fighters of that war were the Russians. It was their blood which won the war (with American supplies). Roosevelt took the correct view that a tank can be built in a week; it takes twenty years to make another human. In exchange of course, America got supremacy of the Western world after the War.

Then you have Britain which with Prussian won the Seven Years War against the Major European powers of the time which were France, Spain, the Hapsburg Empire and Russia. Case also with the War ôf Austrian Succesion, and the War of Spanish Succesion, not to mention the Napoleonic Wars.

King Ragnar
09-18-2005, 14:58
Who has britan ever deafeated men wtih sticks



The Revoulution
Spanish-American war
WW1
WW2


You say WW2 was won by only the americans? thats a load of rubbish, The Russians were the true Heroes of WW2 and that cannot be denied.

Strike For The South
09-18-2005, 15:25
I didnt say just America won Wrold War 2 but Britian and Russia would have a tough time winning if America was fully isolated IE no supplies no troops

In WW1 America gave new fighting vigor to the weary men and eventually pushed the tide of battle

In the American revoulution America won the majority of battles bythemselves agisant the greatsest power in the wrold granted French help shouldnt be overlooked but the only major engagement hey fought in was yorktown

The Spanish-American war signaled the enbd of the Spainish empire

The Stranger
09-18-2005, 15:40
You say WW2 was won by only the americans? thats a load of rubbish, The Russians were the true Heroes of WW2 and that cannot be denied.

:book: he has a point there you know :book: if america hadnt come i would be in siberia and for that i'm grateful :bow: ~;) the rest is history ~:confused:

King Henry V
09-18-2005, 16:07
I didnt say just America won Wrold War 2 but Britian and Russia would have a tough time winning if America was fully isolated IE no supplies no troops

In WW1 America gave new fighting vigor to the weary men and eventually pushed the tide of battle

In the American revoulution America won the majority of battles bythemselves agisant the greatsest power in the wrold granted French help shouldnt be overlooked but the only major engagement hey fought in was yorktown

The Spanish-American war signaled the enbd of the Spainish empire

Had France not been giving money and make it harder to sail across the Atlantic and move troops up and down the coast, the war would have taken much longer and its outcome would have been uncertain. The reasons why Britain lost the war was because in most battles they were outnumbered, sometimes cut off, and they were several generals commanding armies (Burgoyne, Clinton, Cornwallis to name but a few), but no supreme commander. Whatsmore, the public at home was lukewarm to the idea of fighting fellow Englishmen who were fighting for the same rights as some had done in the Civil War a century before. The American Revoltuion was Britain's Vietnam without the napalm.

Ianofsmeg16
09-18-2005, 16:23
*I love the smell of Gunpodwer in the Morning*

Yeah, there is no point in arguing about the american revolution, it happens, what we really need to worry about is the up-coming war against france.....

King Henry V
09-18-2005, 16:26
And we're depending on your Manxmen, Ian of Smeg. At lest we know that you won't be running with your tails between you legs.....

Strike For The South
09-18-2005, 17:04
N/M

King Henry V
09-18-2005, 17:36
Well if you don't want ot join the club SFS, go take a leek you repressed Welshman! ~;)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-18-2005, 18:01
Ian and Henry, go ahead with 100 000 men each and take France.

Kaiser, liberate Prussia and Bohemia.

Bopa, take back India.


For the Fatherland!!!!!!!!!!!! (or Motherland, depending where you're from) ~:cool:

King Henry V
09-18-2005, 18:33
Now let us talk about the partition of France:
Alsace-Lothringen be fully integrated into Germany as will the Pas-de-Calais (from now one known as the Foot of Calesbury ~;) ) and Le Havre, the Seine, and the Western sector of Paris (the eastern part being given to the Imperial Crown of Germany) be integrated into Great Britain. All possessions owned before by the English crown shall be returned to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and further territory including everything along the border with the Kingdom of Spain, Castille and Aragon, all the coast of the Mediterranean until the the Rhone. All territories owned previoulsy by the Holy Roman Empire will be granted back to them. The Empire of Germany will be accorded naval bases on the coast of Brittany. Britain will own the city of Rheims, where the Sovereign will be crowned High King of France. There shall be a small island ruled independantly by the French crown, it's capital Orleans, but it will be landlocked and a vassal of the Crowns of England and Germany. All overseas territories shall be granted to Britain.
You see, we don't hate France, we just love it so much we want every last city, town and village of it! ~;)

Duke Malcolm
09-18-2005, 19:25
Hear, hear. But perhaps we don't need to let the French keep Orleans

Papewaio
09-19-2005, 00:36
WWI
It would probably been better in the long run had Germany won, so America shouldn't have intervened. And anyway, on your one, like everyone else, Germany would have completely defeated you. The Allies would not have been able to win without America, nor vice-versa.


Germany was on the backfoot when America joined the battle. America provided a quicker ending to the plodding plot that had gone before.

Of course if an Aussie general was in charge of the British they would have take twice as much land ~;)

Divinus Arma
09-19-2005, 02:21
To think, in a few years there will be no House of Lords as we know it, there wil lbe no fox hunting and when old Queeny snuffs it, we will be odds on for a Republic. What great times we are and going to witness. ~:cheers:

Wow. I agree with Jag on Something. ~:eek:

Incongruous
09-19-2005, 04:54
Hear Hear! The sub-continent is taken by the grace of god for her majesty and Britain.
I wish to aquire Goa and Hyderbad oh and Calcutta. The rest is all yours. :charge: "Thats right lads forewards!"

King Ragnar
09-19-2005, 16:00
Anyone up for some foxhunting on sunday?

Ianofsmeg16
09-19-2005, 16:37
And we're depending on your Manxmen, Ian of Smeg. At lest we know that you won't be running with your tails between you legs.....

~:cheers:



Now let us talk about the partition of France:etc etc

do i get anything?

King Henry V
09-19-2005, 17:29
You are hearby invested with the titles and powers of Duke of Normandy, hereby to be known as Smegingham.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-21-2005, 01:12
Anyone up for some foxhunting on sunday?
Or perhaps boar?

King Henry V
09-21-2005, 10:58
Boar hunting with a great feast of roasted meats with as much mead and ale as you want or fox hunting followed by sunday roast with plenty of claret, sherry and port? Hmmm, tough one, that.

Duke Malcolm
09-21-2005, 16:00
I think that the latter is more favourable, and more civilised. After all, isn't one of our goals to civilise the foreigners? And one cannot forget the brandy, cognac, whisky, and cigars after the dinner.

Ianofsmeg16
09-21-2005, 16:01
How about some Drunken Card playing afterwards?

p.s. Thanks for the Dukedom Henry!

Duke Malcolm
09-21-2005, 16:07
Ah yes, some Bridge or whist...

King Henry V
09-21-2005, 16:52
Compulsory reading before joining this club: Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World by Niall Ferguson. Excellent book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0141007540/qid=1127317546/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/026-0211939-7457228

King Ragnar
09-21-2005, 16:56
Just wondering King Henry and King Malcom, what do you think about the BNP(british Nationilst Party) Do you agree with some of there point or do you think they are way too extremist?

King Henry V
09-21-2005, 17:07
While I do agree with some of their views, they are really a bunch of ignorant, skinhead lager louts.

Duke Malcolm
09-21-2005, 17:19
Just wondering King Henry and King Malcom, what do you think about the BNP(british Nationilst Party) Do you agree with some of there point or do you think they are way too extremist?
They are too extremist. The only things right with their policy is the plan to bring back national service, or an optional thing where you can go help out in the community instead -- hospitals, schools, police, fire brigade, or some such thing, and you have to do that before getting to vote.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-22-2005, 21:47
I quite think restoring the old Empires and ruling them with an iron fist is quite good enough *gulps beer*. Now that we have France, who wants to be the first to invade Poland and Prussia? Kaiser?

Incongruous
09-24-2005, 07:24
SAVE THE EMPIRE, FOR IT HAS BECOME GREAT BY THE GRACE OF GOD! :charge:

Mount Suribachi
09-24-2005, 08:31
Just wondering King Henry and King Malcom, what do you think about the BNP(british Nationilst Party) Do you agree with some of there point or do you think they are way too extremist?

Not to mention their far left economic policies. Workers collectives and all that.

King Henry V
09-25-2005, 11:58
Well it's election and I expect that every member of this club will peform their duty to me as their king by voting for me!

King Henry V
09-26-2005, 18:29
Well since holding the Presendency of the .Org looks possible, let us discuss a shadow government for the interim. King Malcom, are you interested in holding the position of Foreign Minister?

Duke Malcolm
09-26-2005, 18:40
I am, but I must say that we should not count our chickens before they are hatched... Redleg is near...

King Henry V
09-26-2005, 18:54
Well all parties have a shadow cabinet.

Duke Malcolm
09-26-2005, 21:29
Oh, sorry, didn't quite read the post...
Foreign & Commonwealth Minister, Colonies & Commonwealth Minister, Defence Minister, or Constitutional Affairs Minister (aka Lord Chancellor)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-26-2005, 21:36
Mmmmmmm...so King Henry is the British King? Excellent. Glad to see we are united in Imperialism. Also, anyone interested in becoming a Minister for my Reich? ~;)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-27-2005, 23:55
My new title:

Lord von Schwaben und Bayern, Kaiser, Head of the Imperialist Club, Descendant of Prussian generals and officers decorated for bravery, Swabian Swordsman, Supreme Tactician of the Imperialists, Friend of the Russians, British, and Canadians, Cavalry General of the Prussian Military Club, Proud German and Imperialist,

Evil Manaic From Mars.

Gott und Deutschland.

King Ragnar
09-28-2005, 16:10
Im happy as long as i get Lord of Northumberland ~D ~D

Ianofsmeg16
09-28-2005, 16:59
King Ian, Gwledig Manaw, lord of Galwyddel (galloway) and Duke of Normandy

Seamus Fermanagh
09-28-2005, 17:04
Well all parties have a shadow cabinet.

Not in the USA. Here we just have an opposition party devoted to smacking around and denigrating the current administration. A "Shadow Cabinet" implies people researching the issues and developing viable policy alternatives so that they can step in to govern effectively (by their lights) if they take power. The current opposition party locally isn't bothering with that part "B."

~:) Seamus

Duke Malcolm
09-28-2005, 17:20
My title :

The Lord Chancellor, Lord Privy Seal, and First Lord of the Treasury, Lord Malcolm, the Duke of Rothesay, Lord of the Isles, Marquess of Dundee, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, His Majesty's Viceroy of the Indian Empire, and His Majesty's Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Colonial Affairs.

Ianofsmeg16
09-28-2005, 17:40
My title :

The Lord Chancellor, Lord Privy Seal, and First Lord of the Treasury, Lord Malcolm, the Duke of Rothesay, Lord of the Isles, Marquess of Dundee, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, His Majesty's Viceroy of the Indian Empire, and His Majesty's Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Colonial Affairs.
Doesn't 'Lord of the Isles' cover Mann? cos if it does then......
tsk tsk
It's already mine, as stated in the earlier post

P.s. Gwledig Manaw = King of Mann
Lord of Galwyddel= Lord of Galloway

The celtic kings of Mann held galloway for a long period of time before it was taken over by various enemies

Duke Malcolm
09-28-2005, 17:45
Namely the Scots...

The Lordship of the Isles did at one point cover the Isle of Man, but it is now a separate titled place. The Lordship of the Isles more-or-less covers the Hebrides, and the Mull of Kintyre

Ianofsmeg16
09-28-2005, 17:46
Namely the Scots...
Below the belt ~D


The Lordship of the Isles did at one point cover the Isle of Man, but it is now a separate titled place. The Lordship of the Isles more-or-less covers the Hebrides, and the Mull of Kintyre
Okay, so my throne is secure...now for more conquest, where to henry!!!

Duke Malcolm
09-28-2005, 18:04
Hmm? I may not be Henry, but I suggest getting ready for the re-run of the elections.
I propose a coalition with the Conservative Club, perhaps.

As for our military affairs, I think that since Spain is upholding an illegal claim on Gibraltar, perhaps the Manx can march alongside my loyal Highlanders, the Black Watch, and such like, as we invade from the south onto Madrid.

Duke Malcolm
09-28-2005, 18:27
The Conservatives have said to wait until after the election to form a coalition, if they need the extra votes.

So, we need to choose our candidates.
I propose King Henry V for President, and myself for Vice-President.

The Stranger
09-28-2005, 18:32
i'm a spy///and i spy on your club ~D

King Henry V
09-28-2005, 19:14
Hmm? I may not be Henry, but I suggest getting ready for the re-run of the elections.
I propose a coalition with the Conservative Club, perhaps.

As for our military affairs, I think that since Spain is upholding an illegal claim on Gibraltar, perhaps the Manx can march alongside my loyal Highlanders, the Black Watch, and such like, as we invade from the south onto Madrid.
And don't forget Tangiers and Minorca. We used to one them.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-28-2005, 22:57
Im happy as long as i get Lord of Northumberland ~D ~D
Done. Hail Duke of Northumberland!

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-28-2005, 23:01
Below the belt ~D


Okay, so my throne is secure...now for more conquest, where to henry!!!
Take 200 000 and take the rest of France. You can have Brittany too if you do, and we might consider giving you Ile-de-France as well. ~:)

Derfasciti
09-29-2005, 02:52
Ummm...I'm confused....Is this a joke???? :dizzy2:

King Henry V
09-29-2005, 16:07
No comment....

The Stranger
09-29-2005, 18:39
Ummm...I'm confused....Is this a joke???? :dizzy2:

nah they live in a fantasy world...created by the dreammachine 2004 ~;)

Derfasciti
09-30-2005, 21:50
How exactly does this game work???

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-30-2005, 21:57
Its not a game, nor a joke. We are dedicated to restoring monarchies...we're just too lazy to do anything but dream up evil plots. ~:cheers: Want to join?~:)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-05-2005, 21:57
Changed my location. ~:) It has an Imperialist theme now...~:cool:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-10-2005, 02:42
Where is the Imperialist Army? All our wonderful nations of Imperialism...

Incongruous
10-10-2005, 04:48
Arrrgh!
It be me, Lord Bopa, King of Australia, Duke of Aukland, Count of Cantabury, Prince of Victoria and its dependancies, Imperial Viceroy to New Zealand and Australia, Emperor of Oceania, Keeper of the Greenstone seal that is Tapu, Commander of the Indo-Chinese front, Admiral of the southern seas, Lord Szabo rightful hier to the Hungarian throne, Lord Gillies Commander and Loyal servant to the Prince of Scotland and Field Marshal of the Australasian Army of New Zealand.:charge:

King Henry V
10-10-2005, 17:43
Sorry Bopa, but I don't know wether The Three Guardians of the Empire (i.e Me, Malcom and EMFM) will allow to use the title Prince of Wellingtoon as it might be confused with the descendants of His Grace the Duke of Wellington (Vicecount of Talavera, Knight of the Garter, Duke de la Vittoria etc.). Sorry old chap, but we don't want to annoy the Duke.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-11-2005, 01:15
I'm sure we can get him a slight variaton, like "Prince of New Wellington" or "Prince of Wellingtix" ~;) .

Incongruous
10-11-2005, 04:14
How about Prince of Wellington Royal, or Wellington NZ?
Or Prince of Victoria and its dependancies? (There is a mount Victoria in Wellington)

solypsist
10-11-2005, 04:49
you guys need a manifesto, and then club-names.

and a secret phrase to recognize each other in other subforums.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-12-2005, 21:35
I like it! Psst...want to join?

King Ragnar
10-12-2005, 21:59
He's a colonial, dont let him in!!!!!! lol

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-16-2005, 23:30
Call in a blockade then. ~;)

ShadesWolf
10-19-2005, 20:42
Compulsory reading before joining this club: Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World by Niall Ferguson. Excellent book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0141007540/qid=1127317546/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/026-0211939-7457228

I totally agree, this is an excellent book and well worth a read.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-21-2005, 20:58
Maybe we should make Imperlialist themed sigs. ~:)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-23-2005, 04:03
I've got an Imperialist themed sig using the Hohenzollern Eagle (used Paint, so it isn't that great, but you know...).

Ianofsmeg16
10-23-2005, 10:09
cool sig EMFM, wanna make a british one?

King Henry V
10-23-2005, 18:34
Yes, something with a lion.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-24-2005, 21:38
Alright, I'll try. But I need a motto to add to this one. Short and powerful.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-24-2005, 22:13
Actually, we can make it into a contest. Submit your two best entries for a motto (if in another language, include an English translation), and the Guardians of the Empire will have a chance to choose their favorite. If more than one Guardian chooses a differant one, we will either have a vote, debate, or civil war ~;) . If only one Guardian selects a motto by 21:00 GMT on Tuesday the 25th, that will be the official motto. ~:cool:

Incongruous
10-24-2005, 22:34
How about:

BY MY MIGHT!

PAX IMPERIUM!

ONE FLAG, ONE LANGUAGE, ONE CURRENCY, ONE PEOPLE, ONE LAW, ONE RULER, EMPIRE!

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-24-2005, 22:42
"Death is instant, pain will end, glory is forever"

Fide et Fiducia (Confidence by Fidelity)

TosaInu
10-25-2005, 10:26
test

Ianofsmeg16
10-25-2005, 11:02
How about copying the RAF motto, it's pretty cool

Par Adua Ad Astra i think thats right..
it means reach for the stars

King Henry V
10-25-2005, 13:58
So far, I like Pax Imperium best of all. Short, punchy and effective. Or Dulce et Decorum est pro Patria mori.

King Henry V
10-25-2005, 15:49
P.S, happy Agincourt Day to all English members of this club.

Duke Malcolm
10-25-2005, 17:44
Yes, dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, or For God and the Empire (mottot of the most excellent order of the British Empire).

Ianofsmeg16
10-25-2005, 18:22
P.S, happy Agincourt Day to all English members of this club.
What a way to remember how we always beat the french~:cheers:

except for that unfortunate buisness involving joan of arc~:cheers:

Viking
10-25-2005, 18:38
Yes, something with a lion.

The lion belongs to us. :knight:

https://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7964/riksvpenet8cz.jpg

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-25-2005, 20:44
Let me reveal the (mottoless) new sig for the British Empire:

https://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4720/imperialistsig0xg.gif

Ianofsmeg16
10-26-2005, 09:25
Sig changed...you like?

Papewaio
10-26-2005, 09:27
Makes a great tea towel or a snot rag in a pinch.~:cool:

King Henry V
10-26-2005, 15:17
The lion belongs to us. :knight:

https://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7964/riksvpenet8cz.jpg
Pardon me, but that my friend, is a weasel.:duel:

Viking
10-26-2005, 18:05
Pardon me, but that my friend, is a weasel.:duel:

~:eek:

What an offense. :whip:

Duke Malcolm
10-26-2005, 20:12
Psh, compare that lion to the Royal Lion Rampant in the 2nd quarter of the British Royal Banner. Which one is more lion-like?

by the by https://img476.imageshack.us/img476/1957/thebritishempire9qs.th.jpg (https://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thebritishempire9qs.jpg)

The_Doctor
10-26-2005, 20:21
Why the Royal family's coat of arms?

This would be better:
http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200502/ent-094-terran-empire/240x320.jpg
Or this
http://www.phoenixcreation.com/fedsuns/bigjpg.jpg

Also,
Would you conquer the world in the name of Charile-boy and horse-woman?

Duke Malcolm
10-26-2005, 20:27
Not for the future Queen, but certainly for the Duke of Rothesay, he is a Tory through and through, and his sone will make a damned fine King.

The_Doctor
10-26-2005, 20:37
Not for the future Queen, but certainly for the Duke of Rothesay, he is a Tory through and through, and his sone will make a damned fine King.

Your making your club increasing foolish by supporting him.

I have feeling he will do something stupid and be overthrown.

And why would William make a good king?

Duke Malcolm
10-26-2005, 20:58
Tosh, the public are too lazy to depose him, and if Big Lizzie lasts much longer, he won't have much time as King.

William would make a good King because he is younger, and because he is joining the Army

The_Doctor
10-26-2005, 21:09
Tosh, the public are too lazy to depose him, and if Big Lizzie lasts much longer, he won't have much time as King.

Never underestimate "the people".


William would make a good King because he is younger, and because he is joining the Army

Charlie was in the navy and look how he turned out.

Incongruous
10-27-2005, 04:31
HA!
I'm getting ready for 2015, oh yes, die you Napoleonistic unifiers!
Down with mainland Europe's ideas, may they be replaced by ours!

Oh uhhh...
Anyone heard about a possible upcoming film on Malborough?

Ianofsmeg16
10-27-2005, 12:30
Guys, look to the sig, i gave myself some titles that i think i deserve..
Although there isnt as many as Bopa's, i think there pretty cool

Evil_Maniac From Mars
10-27-2005, 22:53
I approve. ~:)

King Henry V
10-29-2005, 11:34
So do I.~:)

Ianofsmeg16
10-30-2005, 13:09
Not for the future Queen, but certainly for the Duke of Rothesay, he is a Tory through and through, and his sone will make a damned fine King.
William will certainly make a good king, for one thing he's a 'modern' guy therefore maybe he will be a more public king, i.e not sitting around in buckingham palace all day everyday only making an appearence at christmas.

Harry i'm not so sure about~;)

King Henry V
10-30-2005, 14:04
Harry would probably be the next Edward VII

Ianofsmeg16
10-30-2005, 15:19
Harry would probably be the next Edward VII
Well he's not likely to be king anyway, unless William dies childless...

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-04-2005, 01:31
I'm working on some more sigs and a website (free host, and it probably won't be very good, but anyway...).

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-04-2005, 19:04
http://www.armbell.com/forum/index.php?mforum=imperialistclub


The link for the forums. Not quite finished, but try to check them often, as I will post new sub-forums eventually (with your suggestions in mind).

King Henry V
11-07-2005, 14:19
I've created a new sig for our British members:
https://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ukroyalstandardfull5ew.jpgHope you like it.

SomeNick
11-07-2005, 14:36
Makes a great tea towel or a snot rag in a pinch.~:cool:
Rofl!

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-07-2005, 20:04
Dispatch the Pudding Commando Brigade.

King Henry V
11-08-2005, 17:16
Or in black lettering if you prefer:
https://img463.imageshack.us/img463/5833/ukroyalstandardfull7fk.jpg

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-18-2005, 23:17
~:)

Kaiser of Arabia
11-19-2005, 00:26
wootage.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-20-2005, 20:32
:bow:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-24-2005, 02:33
I am beginning a book on Imperialism. It will contain a few chapters, hopefully at least 600 pages, and will base on the following subjects:

What Imperialism is.
The use of Imperialism in past politics
A history of warfare between Imperialist countries
Imperialism and religion
Modern Imperialism
Our version of Imperialism (which I suppose is still not confirmed ~;) ), and why it works

I'm hoping to add some more topics. If people can suggest reference sources, links, and titles I would be grateful.

Papewaio
11-24-2005, 02:36
Imperialism is just multigenerational Facism.

Duke Malcolm
11-24-2005, 17:17
Imperialism is not fascism

Strike For The South
11-24-2005, 17:21
https://img438.imageshack.us/img438/8721/walesflagf1zw.th.gif (https://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=walesflagf1zw.gif) God save the queen

Duke Malcolm
11-24-2005, 17:35
The Queen

Brutus
11-24-2005, 17:39
:coffeenews: Will the real Habsburg please stand up?

Ianofsmeg16
11-24-2005, 18:49
The Queen
The queen ~:cheers:

King Henry V
11-24-2005, 19:13
:coffeenews: Will the real Habsburg please stand up?
We cordially support the Yellow-Black Alliance party.:bow:

King Ragnar
11-24-2005, 19:26
Imperialism is just multigenerational Facism.

LOL, ~:joker:

Viking
11-24-2005, 20:39
Imperialism is not fascism

No, but it still su**s. :duel:

King Henry V
11-24-2005, 21:26
Depends on how's sucking...;-)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-25-2005, 03:45
No, but it still su**s. :duel:
Bah! Peasant scum! ~;)

Kaiser of Arabia
11-25-2005, 03:52
:coffeenews: Will the real Habsburg please stand up?
*stands*

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-26-2005, 01:56
Bah! Bloody Prussian!

Just kidding you, I'm half Prussian myself.

Papewaio
11-28-2005, 04:47
Imperialism is not fascism

Shiny uniforms, notions of racial/country superiority, aggresive land grabs, colonialism etc

Royal families are the descendents of whoever had the best martial forces and took power. Couple of generations and these dictators, fascists or tyrants families get the patina of respect that comes with age.

Trading in democracy for imperialism is like trading in a AMD 64 for a Commodore 64... nostalgic, but not a step in the right direction.

~:cheers:

Duke Malcolm
11-28-2005, 17:08
Racial superiority? I wouldn't say anything like that. Not all colonialism is fascism. One can consider the natives of the colony to be equal, give the colony a council or somesuch thing. One can also combine democracy with imperialism. I would rather keep the House of Commons and have an Empire...

scooter_the_shooter
11-28-2005, 17:15
https://img438.imageshack.us/img438/8721/walesflagf1zw.th.gif (https://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=walesflagf1zw.gif) God save the queen


traitor:duel:

King Ragnar
11-28-2005, 18:24
Americans are the backstabbers my freind.

scooter_the_shooter
11-28-2005, 19:46
SFTS I am disapointed in you......I expect this sorta thing out of kaiser but YOU!
We fought a war to get rid of the worthless inbred queen/king now you want god to save them!~:mecry:


Why don't we just give our country back to the brits while were at it~:rolleyes:

King Henry V
11-28-2005, 19:57
Do we really need to remind you again how well your White House burns?~;)

scooter_the_shooter
11-28-2005, 20:04
LOL do we need to remind you, that we won our revoloution with FRANCE on our side~D

Duke Malcolm
11-28-2005, 20:11
exactly, you couldn't have done it on your own.

Mongoose
11-28-2005, 20:15
You tea drinking british swine are only mad becuase we owned your n00b red coats and because we saved your @$$ in world war 2. We could defeat you with one hand tied behind our backs and with France on our side.

"exactly, you couldn't have done it on your own."

Maybe so, but at this point we could easily crush you, even with France on our side(Having The modern nation of france on your side would be a disadvantage)


:charge:

I hope no one takes the above comment very seriously. It was intended as a joke, like the other comments in this thread, Such as "Do we really need to remind you again how well your White House burns?"

Brutus
11-28-2005, 20:22
:coffeenews: Will the real Habsburg please stand up?
*stands*
Show us the lower lip and I might consider believing you. ~D

Bah! Bloody Prussian!

Just kidding you, I'm half Prussian myself.
I fail to see the connection here between Habsburg and Prussian... Not exactly on best terms, were they? ~;p

LeftEyeNine
11-28-2005, 20:54
God save the queen

That's seriously a neutral question :

Why God save the Queen ? What's so holy about her ? What does she do to the benefit ? Why many countries in Europe still continue the royal families ? Is it all of a tradition ?

King Henry V
11-28-2005, 21:00
Because the Queen is chosen by God to govern over the most sovereign land of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Royal families are still used because:
-they bring in cash from tourists.
-you would need a president anyway to act as head of state (unless you want an ultra-powerful leader) and he charges too, since the president can hardly hold a job. And he would need a big allowanc for entertaining foreing dignatries.
-where would publications such as Hello and OK be without the Royal Family?~D

King Henry V
11-28-2005, 21:02
LOL do we need to remind you, that we won our revoloution with FRANCE on our side~D
And yet you couldn't win a war against the Vietnamese...

LeftEyeNine
11-28-2005, 21:04
If it was a monarchy in terms we know, I tink Imperalism has some sense. But this way -in a republic, it sounds ridiculous to me. We have a president over prime minister that has lesser effect on politics than his sub.

Whatever, count me out, sorry for disturbance.

Brutus
11-28-2005, 21:12
That's seriously a neutral question :

Why God save the Queen ? What's so holy about her ? What does she do to the benefit ? Why many countries in Europe still continue the royal families ? Is it all of a tradition ?
Don't know for sure about Britain (although they probably think God will save their Queen because their Queen is the head of their Church... bit of circular reasoning actually), but in the Netherlands we simply still continue the monarchy because nobody feels like disbanding it again (Our monarchy only dates back to 1813, although the royal family has a history with the Netherlands going back to the 15th century). Our last (and only) attempt at an anti-monarchal revolution was P.J. Troelstra's socialist 'uprising' in 1918 (inspired by events in Germany), but that failed miserably mainly not because most people didn't like Socialism, but because nobody liked getting rid of the Queen! Nowadays, there are some republicans, but most feel our current Queen (Beatrix) is pretty much okay and there is no reason to send her away.This of course might change when her son Willem (IV) Alexander turns out to be bad at the job, but that's still in the future. Our monarchy and the royal family are still celebrated every year on Koninginnedag (Queen's Day - 30 april), when the whole country turns Orange (the national and Royal colour) and there are feasts everywhere. Most also fail to see an elected president doing better at the moment, so... Also, our Queen still holds quite a lot of power, though not officially, she is alot more powerfull then most Scandinavian kings, for example.

By the way, the royal motto (of the Orange-Nassau family) is Je maintiendrai, which is French for 'I will maintain'. (So no questions there then, eh?)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-28-2005, 22:03
I fail to see the connection here between Habsburg and Prussian... Not exactly on best terms, were they? ~;p

Which is exactly why I said bloody Prussian.

King Ragnar
11-29-2005, 18:34
You tea drinking british swine are only mad becuase we owned your n00b red coats and because we saved your @$$ in world war 2. We could defeat you with one hand tied behind our backs and with France on our side.



Saved our ass in world war 2, hardly, the russians did more than the americans to help win the war, and if you insultmybeloved tea again, i swear i will go to arms :knight:.

TEA IS THE BEST DRINK EVER!!!!!:hide: :bow:

Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-30-2005, 22:39
Earl Grey tea: 2-10 Euros (well, quality differs)
China cup with saucer: don't know, but at least 40 Euros
two cubes of sugar: two or three for the box
German silver spoons dating from 1871: 300 Marks for the set


The end result: Priceless

Incongruous
12-02-2005, 07:14
~:joker: