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Turin
09-09-2005, 18:59
Forgive me for losing touch with the developments in the modding community...

Has that old annoying problem of spearmen not being able to bear secondary swords been solved? It's just that I notice quite a few EB units that could benefit from having a sword secondary...
Steppe Merc
09-09-2005, 19:04
I thought that was solved in the patch...
Anyway, we do have spearmen with secondary weapons, I'm almost certain!
Aymar de Bois Mauri
09-09-2005, 19:12
No, the patch has not solved the sword+spear non-phalanx bug issue. But there are ways around the problem... :wink:
Steppe Merc
09-09-2005, 19:26
Well, I was close. ~D
jerby
09-09-2005, 19:54
wich ways? phalanx formation?
LorDBulA
09-09-2005, 20:43
nope. Secondary weapon must use the same animation as the primary weapon.
jerby
09-09-2005, 20:58
well..that would mean the hypaspistai use their spear as a baseball-bat...interesting..
Big_John
09-09-2005, 21:03
it's like a bo-staff with a point on the end! :idea:
jerby
09-09-2005, 21:34
yeah..either pikemen will swing their piek around. or will use their short-sword with 2 hands and stab...
might get confusing..
LorDBulA
09-09-2005, 21:39
This additional condition has to be met by non phalanx troops.
In phalanx it works normaly. So for example Triari can have both Hasta and Gladius (both weapons use thrust).
Turin
09-09-2005, 21:59
Yeah, no I remember about the "must be same skeleton" rule. I was hoping the EB was able to get beyond that.

But then again... all the spearmen that are well enough equiped to have a secondary sword are Graeco-Roman ones who would be using a thrusting gladius or kopis anyway. The Eastern spearmen were never so well endowed as to have swords long enough for slashing, neither were the Gallic and Germanic spearmen.
Steppe Merc
09-09-2005, 22:29
Ah, but you forget the Eastern spearmen who have bows and spears. ~;)
jerby
09-09-2005, 22:50
..they might be able to stab people with their bow~;)
RandyKapp
09-09-2005, 23:39
I dont understand this, the phalanxes have secondary swords for me 0_o
Aymar de Bois Mauri
09-10-2005, 00:39
I dont understand this, the phalanxes have secondary swords for me 0_oWhat is the problem is: without phalanx mode, if a unit has sword+spear it CTDs.
Big_John
09-10-2005, 00:42
What is the problem is: without phalanx mode, if a unit has sword+spear it CTDs.is it just spear & sword? i mean, what about spear & bow, for example?
Mr Jones
09-10-2005, 00:59
i would like to see an eastern spearman use his spear with an animation for firing a bow... now that would be kool.
Divinus Arma
09-10-2005, 01:21
sarmatian foot nobles in RTR6 have spear and bow. I hate fighting those guys!
RandyKapp
09-10-2005, 01:51
What is the problem is: without phalanx mode, if a unit has sword+spear it CTDs.

Ah right, you mean if you remove phalanx ability from the unit totaly it crashs. I undertstand now.
Divinus Arma
09-10-2005, 03:16
Randy Kapp, how the heck do you have like 20 different siggys everytime I see you post?

Do you just make up a new one every time you post, or what?
Big_John
09-10-2005, 04:08
it's just some kind of dynamic link. he has a web directory with all his sig pics, and the link in his sig probably just picks one at random when he posts.
GoreBag
09-10-2005, 04:24
Whenever you view the page, actually.
Divinus Arma
09-11-2005, 03:24
Huh. Thats pretty cool. Thanks for the answer. And I thought he just created a new one every day.. ~:confused:
Simetrical
09-11-2005, 04:22
is it just spear & sword? i mean, what about spear & bow, for example?Spear and bow would work, of course, just like the omnipresent sword/dagger and bow/sling/javelin of vanilla, provided the bow is the primary weapon.