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LeftEyeNine
09-17-2005, 02:32
I have Thin Red Line and Saving Private Ryan for the moment to feed my hunger for World War II atmosphere. Are there any others that worth watching ? May we try making a collection here ?

Gawain of Orkeny
09-17-2005, 02:40
Tora Tora Tora
The Big Red One
Guadal Canal Diary
Wing and a Prayer
Midway
Battle of the Bulge
Patton
Tobruk
The Desert Fox
Battle of Britain
Sink the Bismark
Pursuit of the Graff Spee
Das Boot
The Enemy Below
Bataan
12 O clock High
and of course Kellys Heroes ~D

Kaiser of Arabia
09-17-2005, 02:42
Stalingrad

Gawain of Orkeny
09-17-2005, 02:44
Enemy at the Gates ~;)

Beirut
09-17-2005, 02:49
Just bought Midway a few hours ago.

Widescreen of course. :thumbsup:

LeftEyeNine
09-17-2005, 03:01
Which one of these give emphasis on the psychology of the troops more instead of the action itself ?

Beirut
09-17-2005, 03:05
Full Metal Jacket is a good psychological movie.

It's Kubrick after all. :bow:

Alexander the Pretty Good
09-17-2005, 03:11
The Great Escape. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057115/)

Awesome film about one of the biggest POW camp breakouts of the war. The film isn't 100% accurate (but neither are a lot of the films on that list!). I highly reccommend this movie.

Kagemusha
09-17-2005, 03:26
Tuntematon Sotilas and Talvisota.

Reverend Joe
09-17-2005, 03:44
Hell is for Heroes.

King of Atlantis
09-17-2005, 04:09
Man, i think there are way to many of these.. I much prefer medieval warfare movies...

If you really like these movies you may like Windtalkers, though its really not that great..


The old ones are the best, thoug hi dont know any names of the top of my head..


And of course there is Pearl Habour, good if you dont mind some serious blows to historical accuracy..

LeftEyeNine
09-17-2005, 04:37
Get the DVD set of Band of Brothers. You won't regret it.

I got 'em. But I do not currently have my DVD-ROM. So it's been truly a blow before watching that highly appreciated production.


And of course there is Pearl Habour, good if you dont mind some serious blows to historical accuracy..

I heard that Pearl Harbor was sacrificed in a silly love triangle. The movie was not that good, they say.

By the way, those Finnish movies recommended by kagemusha seem pretty well. Both have ratings over 7 at IMDB.

King of Atlantis
09-17-2005, 04:58
[QUOTE=LeftEyeNine]

I heard that Pearl Harbor was sacrificed in a silly love triangle. The movie was not that good, they say.
QUOTE]


It had great special effects and what not, but my main gripe is that two guys took on the whole Japanese attack, while nobody elese could get up...


And yeah the love triangle was was to much focused, but I still believe it is worth a watch, if only for the visuals..

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 10:25
i've seen all those +almost all already stated above

dirty dozen
a bridge too far
the longest day
band of brothers (series)
saving private ryan
when trumpets fade
bridge over the river kwai
force 10 of navarone
the guns of navarone

moviees based on WW2 but without the actual fighting
der untergang
empire of the rising sun
the bunker (not a reall ww2 story but a horror based on it)

i saw more but i cant remember their names

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 10:28
oh and Thin Red Line (about the guadal canal)

i like to see some ww1 movies and play some ww1 games...i quite had it with ww2 (well not exactly but i would be nice that they focused a bit more on ww1)

Rodion Romanovich
09-17-2005, 10:36
I have Thin Red Line and Saving Private Ryan for the moment to feed my hunger for World War II atmosphere. Are there any others that worth watching ? May we try making a collection here ?

The Thin Red Line and Saving Private Ryan (but not after the opening scene), along with The Guns of Navarone, are by far the best I've seen. The Great Escape is quite interesting too, although there's not much fighting. But I haven't seen that many ww2 movies...

@Alexander the Pretty Good: yeah, awesome. It was interesting to note that those who chose the slowest vehicles such as a little boat with oars and a bike were most successful, whereas those who took the train and a
motorcycle where caught...

King Ragnar
09-17-2005, 10:39
Stalingrad is excellent, as is the guns of Navarone, Full Metal Jacket is probably my favourite tho its not WW2

Taurus
09-17-2005, 10:42
The Great Escape
Kelly's Heroes
Enemy at the Gates
The Bridge at Remagen
The Longest Day
Saving Private Ryan
...but best of all....Band of Brothers (although it is a series.) ~:cheers:

Geoffrey S
09-17-2005, 10:44
Der Untergang, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List. All great movies.

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 10:54
ah yup forgot that one...as well as the Uprising and The great escape was that of those fighter pilots is a POW camp or of the jews in a Death camp

the best WW2 movies i saw were Band of Brothers, a bridge too far and When trumpets fade

full metal jacket was awesome

econ21
09-17-2005, 11:20
Das Boot stands out in terms of its emphasis on the psychology of the soldiers. The TV series (ie an extended version) is better if you can find it. Extremely immersive as an experience.

A Bridge too Far stands out in terms of its accurate representation of a campaign. Watching the film is almost as informative as reading a book about it (there was a good book of that title, I'm not sure if it predated the film - it may have done). The Longest Day was a film in the same mould, but not quite as good.

Most other WW2 films feel phoney to me. That's one reason why Band of Brothers is such an amazing achievement - it feels so authentic, full of the arbitrariness of war.

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 12:09
yeah thats what i like about it...you just feel that that is the way it must have been

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-17-2005, 15:00
Das Boot, it makes you feel like you're right in the U-boat with the men.
Rat Patrol. Well, I liked it.
Battle of Britain, if only for the chunky ketchup blood effect. ~D

Marcellus
09-17-2005, 15:12
I like the Dambusters. The 'special effects' aren't the best, I'll admit...

The_Doctor
09-17-2005, 16:22
A bit off topic, but what is Hiemat(SP).

It is sometimes on BBC4.

Louis VI the Fat
09-17-2005, 16:31
I really enjoyed 'Shaving Ryan's Privates'. ~:handball:

King Henry V
09-17-2005, 16:39
Heimat is a German series in black and white (although it's quite recent) about the German Home Front.

@The Stranger:
Some good WWI films are Paths of Glory and the Blue Max.

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 18:16
i'll check on it...how old are they

King Henry V
09-17-2005, 18:19
Paths of Glory was made in the 50s I think, with Kirk Douglas. It si in black and white however, but should be on DVD. The Blue Max was made in the 1960s with George Peppard and it-s in colour. That is defintely on DVD.

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 18:29
thanx mate: I'll check the net for them

King Henry V
09-17-2005, 18:52
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007KFOR/qid=1126979205/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/202-2855379-4690248

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000068C3C/qid=1126979305/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-2855379-4690248

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 18:56
thanx again

btw i saw one good WW1 movie i forgot its name but it was about the dardanelles.

The King's Men or sumthin like it...really good

InsaneApache
09-17-2005, 18:57
You won't go wrong buying a Bridge Too Far, an excellent movie, featuring some classic actors and some 'up and coming' new boys, now accomplished actors. IMHO the scene with Larry Olivier, playing the Doctor who was being driven to where the paratroopers were about to surrender, is one of the most moving I've ever seen, he never says a word, but by God the emotion is powerful, it's all in the face, especially his eyes. A true classic.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075784/

King Henry V
09-17-2005, 19:15
thanx again

btw i saw one good WW1 movie i forgot its name but it was about the dardanelles.

The King's Men or sumthin like it...really good
All the King's Men was a good film (well it was made by the BBC), and showed the stupidity of of pals battalions.

The Stranger
09-17-2005, 19:28
yheah that was the name...really awesome

ICantSpellDawg
09-17-2005, 19:31
Das Boot
Stalingrad
Band of Brothers
SPR
Bridge over the River Kwai
Grave of the Fireflies

I think that Das Boot, Stalingrad and Band of Brothers are best at describing the feelings of the soldiers (but what I think really means very little as I was not in fact there).

The_Mark
09-17-2005, 19:41
Tuntematon sotilas by Edwin Laine. Just because it's Finnish :grin:

And it's something of a curiosity, a WWII film without Nazis, Americans, Japanese or Brits.

King Ragnar
09-17-2005, 22:31
I think the best thing about Stalingrad is that it shows the German soldiers have feelings and were not evil, like in some movies they are just shown as evil moronic drones.

Gregoshi
09-18-2005, 03:18
Battle of Britain, if only for the chunky ketchup blood effect. ~D

Funny you should say that evil_maniac. Battle of Britain was on TV today so I watched the last half of it. Aside from some less than spectacular effects (blood, explosions), it was incredibly refreshing to see the beauty of real aircraft in a dogfight. I've gotten used to (way too) many CGI effects in movies. I thought Pearl Harbor wasn't that great of a movie aside from the attack itself, and I remember thinking the CGI effects were pretty darn good. That is, until I saw BoB again today. It was clear to me that CGI still has a way to go in some areas.

In fact, now that I think about it, with few exceptions, the WW2 movies of the past 20-25 years seem lacking. It seems to me that the 60's and early 70's were the "golden age" of WW2 movies: Battle of Britain, The Longest Day, Patton, A Bridge Too Far, Kelly's Heroes, The Great Escape - am I missing any others? They have a epic feeling about them. I guess they also had the advantage of having access to larger numbers of war surplus equipment.

I'd have to say Patton is my all-time favourite. Das Boot and Saving Private Ryan had a profound effect on me regarding the gritty, emotional aspects of war. However, I wouldn't want to watch them too often. Patton, I'll watch anytime it is on.

Curiously, I usually end up watching Battle of the Bulge and Midway whenever they are on. Probably because I find the actual battles interesting and think these two movies are the most shown WW2 movies on TV these days in the US. As movies though, they suck. Battle of the Bulge has a horrible story on the American side with know-it-all Henry Fonda dominating the battle. Midway suffers from crappy stock footage and in-plane shots and a horrible American side of the story in the form of Charlton Heston's character. Anyway, these two movies drawn me in like flies to manure way too many times for how bad they are. Thus ends my confession.

Alexander the Pretty Good
09-18-2005, 04:14
Gonna have to recommend "A Bridge Too Far" as well, great film, and the book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684803305/104-3269866-9398357?v=glance) is just as good as the movie.

Reverend Joe
09-18-2005, 04:20
I completely forgot about this one- A Midnight Clear! Almost no focus on action, but a really good story. Depressing as hell, though.

lars573
09-18-2005, 04:29
I think the best thing about Stalingrad is that it shows the German soldiers have feelings and were not evil, like in some movies they are just shown as evil moronic drones.
Hardly surprising considering it's a German production, made in Germany with German actors. Best scene is when they are about to attack either Russia or just Stalingrad but the chaplin is giving a speach and he says "God is with you my sons, it's carved into your belt buckles to always rmind you of that fact." or something like that and one of the main characters looks at his belt and goes sh*t I never noticed that before. I'll have to carve that off god has no place in what we're about to do."

Actually Greg if you know your tanks you'll notice that all the american tanks in Patton are in fact US M-48 and M-60 Patton MBT's. The German tanks are all armoured recovery vehicles in Tiger and Panzer IV mock ups.

Tribesman
09-18-2005, 09:08
How I won the war , with Micheal Crawford , John Lennon and Roy Kinnear . classic ~;)

The Stranger
09-18-2005, 09:30
did anyone saw When TRumpets Fade...it shows that most soldiers were just ordinary boys...no heroes just kids that wanted to go home...at the end they did sumthing heroic but nobody would know cuz all but one died and he isnt likely to be belived...a real good movie

Geoffrey S
09-18-2005, 12:08
A serious lack of Schindler's List here; why?

The Stranger
09-18-2005, 12:16
it has been stated once or twice

PFJ_bejazuz
09-18-2005, 15:12
'Kelly's Heroes' & 'Where Eagles Dare' for fun

BROADSWORD CALLING DANNYBOY

& 'Come & See' for pure jaw dropping OMFG action that makes private ryan look like ballamory

quote 'This is one of the best, the story of a teen who joins the partisans--Great cinematography. They used live ammo while filming. Russian directors don't mess around.'

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000BWVCR/ref=cm_bg_d/002-6270804-9348013?v=glance

The Stranger
09-18-2005, 15:14
yeah where eagles dare is funny

escape from sobibor is good too

Evil_Maniac From Mars
09-18-2005, 15:43
Funny you should say that evil_maniac. Battle of Britain was on TV today so I watched the last half of it.

That movie was great. :bow:

Geoffrey S
09-18-2005, 18:21
The Eagle Has Landed was good, I think; it's been ages since I saw it though.

Adrian II
09-18-2005, 21:36
Das Boot stands out in terms of its emphasis on the psychology of the soldiers. The TV series (ie an extended version) is better if you can find it. Extremely immersive as an experience.I third the choice of Das Boot for various reasons in addition to the one mentioned by Simon Appleton, such as its great photography and its historical accuracy. I know the events portrayed are not established facts, but for me the concept of historical accuracy runs much deeper.
A Bridge too Far stands out in terms of its accurate representation of a campaign. Watching the film is almost as informative as reading a book about it (there was a good book of that title, I'm not sure if it predated the film - it may have done).You probably meant Cornelius Ryan's best-selling A Bridge too far (1974), a decent book that covers Market-Garden.

Franconicus
09-20-2005, 08:20
Die Brücke! Best war film ever!

PFJ_bejazuz
09-20-2005, 15:56
Sam Peckinpah's 'Cross of Iron' is a brutal action movie. James Coburn IS Major Easy from the old Battle comic of the 70s.

Tricon
09-20-2005, 18:30
"the bunker (not a reall ww2 story but a horror based on it)"

Is that one any good? I've seen it in viedeo stores but haven't seen it yet.

Best WWII movies?
Das Boot
Tora Tora Tora
Stalingrad
Die Bruecke
Savin Privat Ryan
Band of Brothers

The Stranger
09-20-2005, 19:07
i dunno...i also only saw the cover...but i had my money spend on other movies

Puzz3D
09-20-2005, 21:06
A Walk in the Sun is pretty good. It concentrates on the individual thoughts of the members of an infantry platoon as they undertake an assault on a German held farmhouse outside Salerno. No Hollywood super heroics in this movie. It's just each man's thoughts as waits for the moment when he will have to stand up and run towards that farmhouse.

Yawning Angel
09-21-2005, 09:51
Would second Das Boot as one of the best, also I think this couple of British war movies are excellent for psychological aspects of war:

The Cruel Sea - anti-submarine corvette in the battle of the Atlantic
Ice Cold in Alex - North African desert campaign

Jubilation T Cornpone
09-21-2005, 13:12
'Went the day well' - Forerunner of The eagle has landed. Excellent film plus Thora Hird with a rifle, what more could you want?

'Angels one five' (I think) - Pseudo black and white Battle of Britain. 'Come in Blue two, come in Blue two'..etc

'The long and the short and the tall' Even Japanese officers are human...

'The Big Red One' - Like it every time I see it and Mark Hammill doesnt mention rescuing princesses once....

633 Squadron - Its not brilliant but I grew up with it so its nostalgic.

Ah, there are so many others.....