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Strike For The South

09-18-2005, 07:58

are yall do you want to ~:confused:
Im to young and refuse to allow just one woman to touch my body (now finding women who will do that is another matter ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: )

PanzerJaeger

09-18-2005, 08:14

Im not married and I have no intention of ever being married. Does that mean I should choose "Mariage what tools" option? :help:

Strike For The South

09-18-2005, 08:16

Im not married and I have no intention of ever being married. Does that mean I should choose "Mariage what tools" option? :help:

yes yes it does or you could choose #6 and why dont you

Gawain of Orkeny

09-18-2005, 08:19

You left out a huge option. The being " I was" and now its great ~D

Strike For The South

09-18-2005, 08:20

You left out a huge option. The being " I was" and now its great ~D

Damn youre right

PanzerJaeger

09-18-2005, 08:21

yes yes it does or you could choose #6 and why dont you

Ok thanks. ~:cheers:

Ja'chyra

09-18-2005, 08:28

are yall do you want to ~:confused:
Im to young and refuse to allow just one woman to touch my body (now finding women who will do that is another matter ~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers: )

You'll learn ~;) You'll get married just as soon as she tells you to :bow:

Kagemusha

09-18-2005, 09:53

Im always looking for a next ex-girlfriend. ~D

The Stranger

09-18-2005, 10:03

hmmmmmm just like me eh

Del Arroyo

09-18-2005, 10:49

Marriage is going to be necessary eventually. Though unless either American women or my view of them change, it won't be to one of them. If they want babies, let them go to the sperm banks, is my current feeling about them (and if they want commitment, they can date their vibrators).

I would like to have the option of polygamy, like maybe one starter wife, and then one or two younger ones when and if I get established and affluent. This may be tough to pull off, though. At any rate right now I'm in a transition phase so I'm not too concerned with women, and that's fine with me. They're all crazy anyway.

DA

Papewaio

09-19-2005, 02:39

Married ~:cheers:

Divinus Arma

09-19-2005, 02:50

Chased plenty of tail when I was younger.

Sooner or later it becomes time to pick one and settle down.

Married five years. The wife is not too sharp, but she's hot and learning to be a good second-class citizen. ~D JK kind of.

She is learning to adapt to her role as "support". I make the money and she does everything else. Best of all, she doesn't care what the hell I do with my free time and she cares not a lick that I'm a drunk. I can go out with the boys or sit at home and play RTW for eight hours a stretch. She's the best and I wouldn't trade her for anyone.

GoreBag

09-19-2005, 03:01

I'm not married and I will never be.

bmolsson

09-19-2005, 05:57

Being married is not a such big deal. I am married to 2 wives and this due to getting the kids the right citizenship. Having 2 wives is not as wonderful as it sounds, its a compromise which all parties agrees to and live by, even though all parties agree that its not the best for them individually (including me).

Papewaio

09-19-2005, 06:09

yesdachi

09-19-2005, 07:08

I am married and it is great. But marriage is not for everyone and should be something done after living life for a while. ~:)

English assassin

09-19-2005, 10:01

Its going to sound rather obvious but it all depends who you are married to. I think marriage is great but if I had married some ball busting harridan it would be hell. But that wouldn't be the fault of marriage would it?

You'll learn You'll get married just as soon as she tells you to

You too, eh? Sometimes we men just don't know what we REALLY want, apparently...(annoyingly this turned out to be true)

English assassin

09-19-2005, 11:50

GC, no one is saying marriage has to be COMPULSORY. If DA likes his set up, fine. If it wouldn't work for you, fine too. You could always marry some hellcat psycho who would keep your life from being boring if you preferred.

I'll tell you what though, after a bit the tail chasing becomes just as much of a routine, if not more. Self indulgence is all very well but its like a diet of nothing but cakes, after a bit it starts making you feel a bit sick.

Having kids isn't a mistake BTW, its hilarious fun. When you want them, anyway.

Ja'chyra

09-19-2005, 12:37

Now you see, that kind of Mentality just makes me despair of the human race. I mean, sure, your end of the stick isn't necesarrily the short one (It'd suck being a woman who has to pump out babies, clean the house, take care of their babies, and try to make myself not wonder exactly what the husband is doing out so late.), but it's still a fixed routine that you are trapped in for life. Even with a Divorce, Marriage haunts you, especially if you made the mistake of having kids.

What age are you GC? You seem to have no clue what marriage is all about, it's a partnership not a sentence.

UglyandHasty

09-19-2005, 15:39

Married, with a 3 weeks old son. And i have voted Married and its allright. Why, not because i dont have a great relation, we almost never fight. But because living with another person mean you have to make compromise everyday. Its not always easy, but in my opinion, there's much more good than bad coming out of a mariage.

And now meet Alexandre
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/UglyandHasty/000_0025.jpg

~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers:

Voigtkampf

09-19-2005, 17:09

Nice kiddo, Uglyandhasty - fortunately, he reflects neither of your nick. ~;)

Narrowly escaped the clutches of marriage from my second fiancée. Love gone horribly wrong. And I was supposed to get married on the 24. of this month! Phew… Better to be alone in all eternity then with the devil on your back. But I still believe in marriage and consider anyone who doesn’t get married and has offspring to be deprived of the most important thing in life. But, with 28 I’m far from rushing anything any more. Letting things run their course.

drone

09-19-2005, 17:14

"Almost not quite" and fighting it every day ~D

Big King Sanctaphrax

09-19-2005, 17:53

Hell no. The idea of some crazy bink running off with half my assests, and the kids, doesn't thrill me at all.

I'll get married when the divorce courts start treating men equitably. Even then, I might hold off. Who knows how you're going to feel about someone twenty years down the road? Seems a lot of fuss over piece of paper to me.

ah_dut

09-19-2005, 18:03

Well depends on the woman and how much crack I'm taking on the day :winky: No seriously though, maybe I'm just a coward but I agree with BKS a lot here (as usual)

yesdachi

09-19-2005, 18:08

Seems a lot of fuss over piece of paper to me.
prenup is another nice little piece of paper ~;)

Big King Sanctaphrax

09-19-2005, 18:11

Pre-nuptial agreements aren't legally binding in the UK.

yesdachi

09-19-2005, 18:16

Pre-nuptial agreements aren't legally binding in the UK.
How about faking your own death and moving to mexico? thats my back-up plan. ~;)

Papewaio

09-20-2005, 03:28

Two years today! ~D ~:cheers: :balloon2: :balloon2:

And to add to UglyandHasty's post.

Here is 7 week old Luke:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Papewaio/Luke/green2.jpg

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Papewaio/Luke/BED1.jpg

ICantSpellDawg

09-20-2005, 03:42

i think that marriage should be abolished as it is currently recognized by the state. the state should have civil unions only in which anyone is free to enter into any sort of contractual obligation with anyone else. marriage as an institution should be left to individual organizations of church/etc and recognized by the state only as civil unions. this would allow homosexuals to not feel discriminated agaisnt and the religious right to not contribute to a government that condones homosexuality as equal to marriage as a union - as it would now be entirely secularized. sexuality would no longer be an issue regarding a civil union as anyone could join into one.

as consummation of a marriage would no longer be necessary if homosexual marriages became legal, population in the world is now at a critical peak, love is a metaphysical concept based on faith that the governemnt should not recognize, culture is relative and not worth preserving as far as procreation is concerned, marriages work about as often as a coin toss pulls up heads, we seem to all be here killing time anyway, marriages exist for the subjugation of one partner in favor of the other, love has about as much to do with modern marriage as jesus had to do with the solar temple cult, etc - i dont see why this is a bad idea

an impractical one, yes
bad? i dont think so

what do you think?

LeftEyeNine

09-20-2005, 03:44

Wow ! I want a copy of this handsome Luke !

I wish for a life to share at all terms. Marriage makes you a "man", I think. Voluntary responsibility. The only way you can tidy up your life..

That's my two cents. I am 21 right now but wish it to happen as soon as I am financially independent.

Strike For The South

09-20-2005, 03:48

AWW look at the tiny child ~:cheers:

bmolsson

09-20-2005, 04:47

What would be better for your circumstance? 4 wives?

BTW are both your wives Indonesian? Java, Sumatra...

It might be easier raising children if the wives cooperate. As it is having one wife (and I don't want a second) the amount of time that it takes to raise a child is enourmous... thankfully we get lots of help from family.

Both from Jakarta (Betawi). Both are working on senior management positions.

Better circumstance would be no wives and occasional relationships. ~;)

It doesn't really take a lot of time to raise a child in Indonesia. Each get a nanny when they are small. Also when my kids are 5 they goes to Sweden for school. I got a school in southern of Sweden. Very nice one actually. ~D

Lemur

09-20-2005, 04:49

Well, if this is going to turn into a cute baby thread (something I heartily approve), I'm going to have to show my two-year-old as well. Something that makes marriage really nice, if you ask me, which you didn't.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/Resting.jpg

Born on 9/11 in NYC, for what it's worth. I'm hoping to give him all the tools he will need for world domination. Bow before your future overlord!

ICantSpellDawg

09-20-2005, 04:51

Both from Jakarta (Betawi). Both are working on senior management positions.

Better circumstance would be no wives and occasional relationships. ~;)

It doesn't really take a lot of time to raise a child in Indonesia. Each get a nanny when they are small. Also when my kids are 5 they goes to Sweden for school. I got a school in southern of Sweden. Very nice one actually. ~D

i love how you speak of "the indonesian experience" in your posts and follow up with a description of how each child gets its own nanny and then is shipped to southern sweden. a bit detached from the experience of the vast majority of our peers, are we?

AntiochusIII

09-20-2005, 05:36

i love how you speak of "the indonesian experience" in your posts and follow up with a description of how each child gets its own nanny and then is shipped to southern sweden. a bit detached from the experience of the vast majority of our peers, are we?Well, considering how well-informed he is for someone from, pardon me but I also came from similar countries originally, such a crowded and developing nation indicates that he is of a higher class. High middle class, rich, or tycoon that depends on bmolsson's answer. Also, there is this "tradition" and "belief" among the higher classes in the developing countries like this that their kids would recieve better education in the West, which is not baseless, actually. Though my school (original one, one of the best public ones in Thailand...) was harder and more rigorous academically than an ordinary public school in Las Vegas I'm in now, they do have less toys, comfort, support, more crowded, more pressure, and a little more messed up attitude and system.

By the way, cute babies these are. Adorable :)

doc_bean

09-20-2005, 17:04

Marriage seems nice, if you don't marry a psycho (that goes for either sex), allow eachother the necessary freedom and accept that love fades.

I'm a pretty closed person so the idea of having several short relationships (and opening up to those different people, and then breaking up) really doesn't appeal to me, even if it might make my sex life more interesting (not that i'm complaining). I do fear divorce court though, the stories I've heard...

And cute babies ! Well done lads ~:cheers:

Del Arroyo

09-20-2005, 19:05

Though my school (original one, one of the best public ones in Thailand...) was harder and more rigorous academically than an ordinary public school in Las Vegas I'm in now, they do have less toys, comfort, support, more crowded, more pressure, and a little more messed up attitude and system.

Hmm, I know one of my bosses at a previous job was from Thailand, and talked about being sent to some psychotic Catholic school where they stuck your hands in hot coals for being late and stuff like that. He said it was a well-known and respected school (and he was glad to go to university in LA ~D ).

DA

bmolsson

09-21-2005, 02:51

Strike For The South

09-21-2005, 02:53

:embarassed:

I thought everyone had a nanny.....

*Looks around* we all do we just call her mum *Gets hit with a shoe*

Why Sweeden If dont mind my asking ~:confused:

Strike For The South

09-21-2005, 02:54

the mistake of having kids.

The mistake ~:confused:

ICantSpellDawg

09-21-2005, 03:29

LeftEyeNine

09-21-2005, 04:03

In a global society of 6 billion with no purpose in life other than to live and die - I fail to see the purpose of procreation. All it could possibly do is entertain those currently alive for a few years and then add to the surplus population of miserable and lost souls. I think that child-bearing is cruel and selfish unless you believe that humans live for a reason.

You don't have a child, do you ? You sound as if all other people have babies for a galactic cause : Boom the population to conquer the universe..

People breed because simply they want to, aware of what they are doing and ready to share their compassion and love with the new-born. Well, I'm sure you don't have a baby.. Or already threw it into Atlantic..:juggle2:

Lemur

09-21-2005, 04:25

AntiochusIII

09-21-2005, 04:36

Hmm, I know one of my bosses at a previous job was from Thailand, and talked about being sent to some psychotic Catholic school where they stuck your hands in hot coals for being late and stuff like that. He said it was a well-known and respected school (and he was glad to go to university in LA ~D ).

DAWell, there are a lot of Catholic schools in Bangkok, and they are, of course, private and prestigious. I went to one during my elementary years; they are good at education and richer (as it's for the higher mid-class to lower rich ones), but got a lot of annoying prayers for us students to follow, which I did obediently and faithlessly at the same time. We prayed primarily for Maria, and none that I could remember about Jesus or God himself, though they do have a copy of "The Last Supper" on one of the school walls. ~D

But your boss is probably exaggerating himself. I've never seen such barbaric practices, and even though I (a model student I was ~D ) got into trouble "refusing" to follow some absurd school rules (Which I made my statement very, very clear in front of like...thousands, quite violently so - and my parents, in fact, agree with me when I explained myself - oh I luv mie familie) I was never punished like that. They do have deans, you know.

Back to topic: TuffStuffMcGruff, you yourself are the result of procreation. Do you see the point of your life?

Strike For The South

09-21-2005, 04:37

I'm going to set this to music and croon it to my son at bedtime. He's gonna love it!

that guy looks like he could play linebacker for the jets are you sure hes two ~:eek:

Lemur

09-21-2005, 04:44

that guy looks like he could play linebacker for the jets are you sure hes two
Well, the calendar says he's two, but that's only one way of looking at things. All I know for sure is that he's outgrowing the three-year-old clothes I bought him a few months ago. Welcome to the next stage of human evolution. :alien:

LeftEyeNine

09-21-2005, 04:59

Erm, I suddenly thought that TuffStuffMcGruff is right..

Stop that ! Stop that baby ! Hold it ! Lemurmania, he's your son, hol..ARGH ! STOMP !

ICantSpellDawg

09-21-2005, 05:50

Back to topic: TuffStuffMcGruff, you yourself are the result of procreation. Do you see the point of your life?

Absolutely not. Do you? Please help me to better understand.

Papewaio

09-21-2005, 06:00

In a global society of 6 billion with no purpose in life other than to live and die - I fail to see the purpose of procreation. All it could possibly do is entertain those currently alive for a few years and then add to the surplus population of miserable and lost souls. I think that child-bearing is cruel and selfish unless you believe that humans live for a reason.

The assumption is that the individuals and the family are miserable and lost souls.

If it as happy functional family then they are adding to the under supplied population of happy and functional humans.

Childbearing is indeed cruel, particularly on the mum... and the childbirth ~:eek: Holy crap, I think everyman should see the birth of their child. Absolutely amazing, even after seeing hundreds of animals give birth, and human birth videos, an up close frontrow seat os seeing your own child being born helps give some perspective.

We have free will, that means we choose the reason(s).

ICantSpellDawg

09-21-2005, 06:25

The assumption is that the individuals and the family are miserable and lost souls.

If it as happy functional family then they are adding to the under supplied population of happy and functional humans.

Childbearing is indeed cruel, particularly on the mum... and the childbirth ~:eek: Holy crap, I think everyman should see the birth of their child. Absolutely amazing, even after seeing hundreds of animals give birth, and human birth videos, an up close frontrow seat os seeing your own child being born helps give some perspective.

We have free will, that means we choose the reason(s).

To me, this is a huge pile of rubbish. Once you have a child you get trapped into the mindset that you must protect them, even though they will experience pain, joy and death no matter what you do. Protecting them does what? Allows them to perform the same function in an endless cycle. If you want to do something pro-active, do everyone a favor and keep it in your pants to let us live the rest of our lives in peace and finally let the human torch die out as it no longer has any direction. Please refute.

On the other hand, It is obviously inherent to wish to propagate the species. It is also inherent in every other animal species. Because we get the urge to procreate doesnt mean it is logical in the strictest sense. In a secular world, I believe that logic works against procreation. Unless there is a purpose or some form of continuity that we don't understand, it cannot matter whether we all live forever or die en masse. This is where seemingly absurd concepts of Deity in the modern sense come from. I believe that without moral standards and direction that life is pointless, and to the point MARRIAGE as an institution is as archaic as christianity and itself pointless. Just because it makes some of you secular nihilists or self-decievers who believe in some form of diety comfortable does not mean that it holds water as a concept.

Papewaio

09-21-2005, 07:42

Your post comes across as rather petulant and unwordly, like most westerners who never have had any real heart pumping moments. Face cancer, explore the Sumatran jungle, crunch Schrodingers equations, stalk the Australian Outback, swim in the Pacific ocean, climb the mountains, balance on a log over a canyon and pray you don't slip to your doom, run through the rainforest as a monsoon hits, save companions from quicksand, swim in mountain streams so cold your head feels like it is in a vice, fish at sunset in the Indian ocean with the water lapping around your calves, cycle until you puke, run till you have an asthma attack and then get up and run some more, take a 7 hour speed boat trip up into Borneo, work on the Equator, when one of your team mates gets tired from all the exploring sling him across your shoulders, fix electrical wiring with monkey spit all over it, water ski, sail a catamaran fill it up with jelly fish and fight your own pirate battles... in short pull your finger out and live life.

It really only gives back what you put into it.

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I would be very surprised if humans last long enough to make a civilisation that can span more then one star system. It would be nice if we get to the point that we can understand the universe we are in and possibly go beyond. Till then I think it best to not be so selfish to think only in terms of myself and acquiring material goods.

Love afterall in all its forms is a grand thing to do. Nor do I intend on purely protecting my child, my aim is to raise an independent healthy adult that can help himself and others around him. To get that far I will be encouraging him to take risks, play contact sports, ask the girl out, join the debate team, excel and strive.

Nor do I fear death so much that I turn away from life.

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Logic dictates that those that cannot breed through physical, mental or spiritual reasons will not contribute to the next generation.

Those that breed will, hence strengthening the percentage that will breed.

Non-breeders die off pretty quick, and most that do not breed do so because of either a physical or emotional problem.

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We are smart enough to be self aware, that means we can choose our purpose.

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Marriage has its purpose, a properly functioning one is quite a wonderful thing to be part of either as a child, parent or friend.

Personal experience is a key point here. Those from broken homes are less likely to see how marriage can be so good.