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Shaka_Khan
09-23-2005, 10:09
There have been sightings of large unknown fauna. Much of the large fauna that we know of lived during the Pleistocene Epoch, (the Ice Age). Giant pandas, whales, and elephants are some of the large fauna alive today.

People have discovered the fossil remains of the teratorn, a giant condor.


Here is a sighting of a big Alaskan bird (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/West/10/18/offbeat.alaska.bird.reut/).

Paper: Massive bird spotted in Alaska
'He's huge, he's huge, he's really, really big'
Friday, October 18, 2002 Posted: 10:26 AM EDT (1426 GMT)

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) -- A bird the size of a small airplane was recently said to be seen flying over southwest Alaska, puzzling scientists, the Anchorage Daily News reported this week.

The newspaper quoted residents in the villages of Togiak and Manokotak as saying the creature, like something out of the movie "Jurassic Park," had a wingspan of 14 feet (4.6 meters) -- making it the size of a small airplane.

"At first I thought it was one of those old-time Otter planes," the paper quoted Moses Coupchiak, 43, a heavy equipment operator from Togiak, as saying. "Instead of continuing toward me, it banked to the left, and that's when I noticed it wasn't a plane."

The Daily News, the largest daily in Alaska, said scientists had no doubt that people in the region, west of Dillingham, had seen the winged creature but they were skeptical about its reported size.

"I'm certainly not aware of anything with a 14-foot wingspan that's been alive for the last 100,000 years," the paper quoted raptor specialist Phil Schemf as saying.

Coupchiak said the bird disappeared over the hill and he then radioed Togiak residents to tell them to keep their children in.

Another local resident, a pilot who had initially dismissed the reports, said he recently saw the bird from a distance of just 1,000 feet (300 meters) while flying his airplane.

"The people in the plane saw him," John Bouker was quoted as saying. "He's huge, he's huge, he's really, really big. You wouldn't want to have your children out."

Schemf and Rob Macdonald of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said there had been several sightings over the past year and a half of a Steller's eagle, a fish-eating bird that can weigh 20 pounds (10 kg) and have a wingspan of eight feet (2.60 meters), the newspaper reported.

There is a Native American legend (http://www.ewebtribe.com/NACulture/articles/GiantBird/) about giant birds.


This talks about how the story could be real (http://sped2work.tripod.com/giantbird.html).

LEGEND OF THE GIANT BIRD

It was only yesterday, as time is told by the ancient ones...

As the sun moved closer to the edge of the world, the sky darkened, lightning played among the clouds and thunder roared. The Mighty Buffalo lifted their heads from grazing and gathered their young about them. The young calves moved even closer to their mothers as thunderbolts filled the sky. The herd milled aimlessly and watched with fear knowing the possibility death was near.

First the sound of wind, then a dark shadow crossed over the land. The giant Bird of Thunder swooped down across the edge of the herd and a young calf was lifted into the air. Soon other shadows dropped near the earth and more of the young calves were taken. Lightning streaked across the sky while the voice of thunder spoke with a vengeance. The Mighty Birds that brought the storm disappeared in the distance as Mother Earth opened her arms to receive the rain. The herd returned to their grazing now that the danger was past. Again the Mighty Thunderbird had stolen from the herd and loosed another storm upon the land. It was as it should be, the herd had grown too large and Mother Earth had needed the rain.

As the Giant Birds vanished against the clouds of the distance sky, "She Who Ran Away", a young buffalo mother gave thanks her remaining baby had been spared, as her first calf had been given to the Birds of Thunder. Many of her friends had also lost their offspring to the Storm Bringers and spoke often of the ache the loss had instilled in their hearts. She thought again of the pain she had suffered and gave another silent prayer that this would happen no more. "She Who Ran Away" prayed this prayer with a pure heart and asked only to improve life for the herd and for future generations.

Winter passed and lost it's hold on the land. The North Wind grew weaker. The birds of the air had finished their sojourn in the south and would be returning to the land. With their return would come the storms and rain to feed new growths. Every year the Giant Birds returned to the north to build their nests in the high places and bring their young into the world. But now, as the Thunderbirds moved over the plains and looked upon the Earth, they found that the herds of Buffalo that once spaned to the horizon, were not as they once were. Without the Buffalo there was not enough food for these Mighty Giants and many died on their journey north. So few reached the nesting area that only a few chicks came forth during the hatchling season. The loss of the mighty herds made migration very difficult and many of the young birds died on their way south that fall. Soon they and the buffalo were no more.

This shows the various sizes of the teratorn (http://sped2work.tripod.com/evidence.html).

Divinus Arma
09-23-2005, 10:14
I typically see birds on the freeway after I cut people off at high rates of speed.



Very odd.

Shaka_Khan
09-23-2005, 11:01
More Megafauna

The andrewsarchus was a hoofed carnivorous mammal. It is known well as the largest carnivorous land mammal ever.
Here is a picture (http://www.abc.net.au/beasts/evidence/prog2/page5.htm) of an andrewsarchus.

http://www.abc.net.au/beasts/evidence/prog2/images/evi_andrewsarchus_large.jpg http://blog.empas.com/conodont/911153_230x225.jpg

There have been sightings (http://www.newanimal.org/beastgev.htm) of a hoofed carnivore. Wouldn't it be fascinating if it was all true?

Shaka_Khan
09-23-2005, 11:26
Could this be a hoax?
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/bigbear1.jpg http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/bigbear2.jpg

The largest bear (which was not a grizzly like the one above) was the short faced bear (arctodus simus). It had long slender legs that allowed it to run fast. We're lucky that we don't encounter these today.

http://www.prehistoria.piwko.pl/Obrazki/arctodus2.jpg
http://www.prehistoria.piwko.pl/gal_ssaki.htm

http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/faq/fossils/arctodus_263c.gif
http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/faq/fossils/pdq263.html

Divinus Arma
09-23-2005, 12:22
http://www.prehistoria.piwko.pl/Obrazki/arctodus2.jpg
http://www.prehistoria.piwko.pl/gal_ssaki.htm

http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/faq/fossils/arctodus_263c.gif
http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/faq/fossils/pdq263.html

I like this image of the three different bears. I now have a more descriptive term other than a "boy" or a "girl".

Now I can say, "Do not go in there unless you want to see a brown-faced bear".

Divinus Arma
09-23-2005, 13:00
Erm...

You know what I meant.

Ja'chyra
09-23-2005, 15:46
Erm...

You know what I meant.

No idea bud ~:confused:

Mikeus Caesar
09-23-2005, 18:45
If you go to Cryptozoology.com, they have more info relating to Thunderbirds. I think they have a story of some 10 year old who got picked up and flown over his house by one of the things in the seventies or eighties.

With relation to the giant bear, i believe that is actually real. Scary, eh?

Ianofsmeg16
09-23-2005, 18:54
The newspaper quoted residents in the villages of Togiak and Manokotak as saying the creature, like something out of the movie "Jurassic Park," had a wingspan of 14 feet (4.6 meters).....

Oh God....
sometimes i think that movie did more bad than good....

*Bangs head on wall because of ignorant fools who still think cavemen ran around clubbing dinosaurs on the head :wall:

Divinus Arma
09-23-2005, 23:39
No idea bud ~:confused:

Uhm. Haven't you ever had descriptives for your daily solid function?

I.E.
Drop a bomb.
Deploy a s.e.a.l. team.
Pinch a loaf.

This is just a descrptive.


Jeez My sense of humor as got to be dry. Nobody got this joke either:



Good, its just too tempting to build armys made up entirely of elites


I agree BM, we shouldn't be able to push them out that easily. It should take a little straining on our part. Not to the point of pain, but it should be quite an effort to create a unit that comes out hard.

Reverend Joe
09-23-2005, 23:52
I do. And his name is "BM"- it's just so perfect. ~D
But I have never heard the "deploy a S.E.A.L. team one.

By the way, I have heard- on the History channel- that the "Thunderbird" legend is a reference to an earthquake in the Cascade region hundreds of years ago that was on the order of the quake that unleashed the Sumatra Tsunami recently.

Divinus Arma
09-24-2005, 00:14
Just think of guys in black wetsuits jumping feet first in a standing position into the ocean from a low-hovering helicopter.