Trading gore ?

[Shahed]

Hey All!

I just read in a widely public and FREE newspaper that soldiers in Irak were trading images of the enemy war dead for free access to porn on a website. I'd love to see the site myself. Does anyone have a direct link ?

Thanks in anticipation.

[Blodrast]

I think rasoforos has a link to bbc in the "# years to Lyddie England" thread...

yup, here it is: clicky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4289518.stm)

[Shahed]

Thanks man. That's an interesting informative article.
Hey but we better get the website before it gets closed down.

[Reverend Joe]

Are you kidding? I can't tell without smilies... they're only words.

[Shahed]

kidding what ? who ? where ?

[Reverend Joe]

So... you would willingly trade pictures of dead Iraqis for some porn? That's sick. Or do you just want to see the website or what?

[Shahed]

huh ???

No I am not willing to trade pictures of dead iraqis (heaven knows where I'd get that) or dead anything else except the dead chicken on my freakin frozen pizza "pollo" ! for a link to the website where such trades are taking place.

[Beirut]

Trading gore for bush? ~D

[_Martyr_]

Not only did Mr Gore invent the internet, it now seems he is involved in internet porn! A truly visionary man!


Seriously, its pretty sick! :dizzy2:

[Dâriûsh]

If true, that’s utterly disgusting.

[rasoforos]

Its true and may I say its not surprising at all?

When an army loses its goal of defending their homeland and becomes a bunch of thugs then this is the kind of people that it attracts...

[Strike For The South]

and becomes a bunch of thugs then this is the kind of people that it attracts...

Isnt this just a tad bit overzealous the milatary isnt perfect but filled with men and women who are great people this is no diffrent than saying all muslims are terrorists

[Devastatin Dave]

Its true and may I say its not surprising at all?

When an army loses its goal of defending their homeland and becomes a bunch of thugs then this is the kind of people that it attracts...

That's nice... ~:handball:

[rasoforos]

That's nice... ~:handball:


Daaaave My favorite conservative ~;)

Ok I know you dissagree with my choice of words but you guys on the other side of the pond gotta do something about ppl like this.


I know gore is ok but to actually trade it for something as sinsful as porn is outrageous! :charge:

Ah I m pulling your leg. I hope all is well for you ~:) :bow:

[Ser Clegane]

When an army loses its goal of defending their homeland and becomes a bunch of thugs then this is the kind of people that it attracts...

Actually you will see this or similar behaviour from a couple of individuals in any army of the world - especially if this army is away from home and family (you will also see in in peace keeping forces).

Hmm ... actually, let's say you will see this kind of behaviour not only in armies - you just have these kind of sickos in society and consequently they also show up in the army.
Bad? Sure it is. Will these guys face consequences? Very likely I would say.

BTW, I expect that no links to websites where gory pictures are traded for porn are posted here, as I would consider this to be a violation of forum rules
If you want to exchange this kind of links please do so in private.

[Shahed]

Received and understood Ser.

I found the website.

The website is an amateur porn forum where people post pictures and videos of themselves. Some soldiers have come forward and submitted photos of Iraqi, and Afghan war dead, in various mutilated and shot up conditions, in exchange for access to the forum. You cannot see any of the home porn unless you pay 10 US Dollars. The webmaster offered to grant free access to anyone who shows pictures of enemy dead.

Some pictures show troops posing against charred remains, others have captions such as "Die Haji Die" (Haji means someone who has performed the Hajj, an annual pilgrimage in Islam, it is a term of reverence. In this case Haji is used as "gook" or "kraut", derogative). The forum is also a place where soldiers can vent their frustrations and their disgust towards the Arabs and Afghans for example "they are trying to kill us when we are trying to sort them out" and "that's what you get for messing with us" reads a caption to a picture which shows an Arab slouched in the drivers seat of a car with the effects of a 0.50 caliber headshot. Another caption reads "that's what happens when a tank runs over you", displaying a dead Arab with his hands tied behind his back lying on the road, after a tank has neatly run over his head.

It's a compelling look into the mind of the human at war.

[rasoforos]

So who exactly are the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan? Its getting rather blurry isnt it?

The laughable sentences for the Abu Grhaib bastards and now things like that only serve to 'donate' fundamentalists and Al Qaeda with millions of new sympathisers, and 'for free'. Al Qaeda owes a lot to the US armed forces...

[Kraxis]

Another caption reads "that's what happens when a tank runs over you", displaying a dead Arab with his hands tied behind his back lying on the road, after a tank has neatly run over his head.
That one is hard to explain your way out of. The fellow can't really have been a dangerous combatant with his hands tied up.
A whole lot of people must have been involved in it, and it is an obvious sadistic act.

No wonder we haven't heard about this one as it is simply too explosive. Not even our own media would dare air it.

[Shahed]

There is a lot more. I counted at least 10 pictures out of a total of maybe 35 that I saw, there are more pictures but the site is so popular now that it keeps giving "too busy" messages.

In these approximately 10 pictures, there are some points of concern. Some pictures show the dead have no signs of weapons or any kind of military equipment around them. Nor do they have any pants on but their pants are around their ankles as if pulled down. This could be due to an explosion but in that case the rest of the body would be partially mutilated and the clothes would be torn off. Not the case here, pants pulled down and completely intact, face down in the dirt with a bullet through the back of the head.

Another image shows a man who has clearly had an Arab headscarf (the type which is long and typically red or black checkered) tied around his head before he was shot in the face. This is clear since the bullet hole is in the scarf. The cloth looks like it has gone inside the skull cavity which is further evidence that the man was shot after his face was wrapped up. Again no sign of any military hardware around him.

In one picture a man has had his buttonless shirt cut as if by a knife through the middel of his body. He shows no bullet wounds or shrapnel wounds but his face is bruised and the pants he is wearing are soaked in blood suggesting that many major arteries were cut around the genital or upper thigh area, either by sever brusing or by blade cuts.

Another picture shows 5 soldiers cheering (thumbs up) and smiling at the charred and completely blackened remains of an enemy soldier. In this case there is a damaged vehicle in the background which is an APC.

Right after that image, the same soldier who posted that image, has also posted a picture of his girlfriend or wife, naked and lying on the floor with some remains of semen on her throat. There is a trickle of semen down her throat from her lips as if she's just swallowed. Interestingly he posted the picture of the girl right after the picture from Iraq. Two trophies.

There is a picture of the remains of a man who has been hung upside down from the ceiling before being shot and then set alight. His remains are hanging from the ceiling, it's not clear how he was put up there because the picture does not show that clearly but he is clearly hangin upside down and his body is burnt through to the bone with some flesh being spared and visible.

Another image shows a man lying on his face and again a single bullet has entered the back of his head and close range. In this case his brains are coming out of the exit hole in the front of his face. No sign of any combat.

What is interesting is that a LOT of the pictures have dead which have been shot with a bullet to the back of the head. If not to the back of the head then to the face or side, but in most cases it's from a single shot to the head.

Another image shows a man lying in a field with a bullet hole in the left upper leg and in the back of the head. He is barefooted.

One picture shows two dead Iraqis huddled together almost kissing each other. It's not clear if they were set in this pose after being killed or before. Weird in any case.

There is also a picture of a corpse that is certainly no more than 16 years old, with a bullet hole under the chin.

That's my rather shallow and brief examination of those pictures.

[PanzerJaeger]

^Are you surprised by your findings? War is not for the faint of heart.. or so Ive been told.

[rasoforos]

^Are you surprised by your findings? War is not for the faint of heart.. or so Ive been told.

War??

What does this have to do with war? We are talking about abuse here.

So is the posting of pictures of people killed ( for a reason or for 'fun' ) in echange for porn OK with you? Dont you condemn this?

[PanzerJaeger]

What does this have to do with war? We are talking about abuse here.

What abuse is that? Shooting enemy combatants?


So is the posting of pictures of people killed ( for a reason or for 'fun' ) in echange for porn OK with you?

I dont care what people do with their own pictures. Mind your own business?


Dont you condemn this?

Many people like snuff type things.. and many people like porn. What is there to condemn? Its not my tastes.. well the snuff ~;) , but im not going to jump on a high horse about it.

[Dâriûsh]

Many people like snuff type things.. and many people like porn. What is there to condemn? Its not my tastes.. well the snuff ~;) , but im not going to jump on a high horse about it. Well then, can one assume that you’re not ‘jumping on a high horse’ regarding beheading videos either?

[rasoforos]

What abuse is that? Shooting enemy combatants?



I dont care what people do with their own pictures. Mind your own business?




This is sick man. I wonder how you would react if it was your ppl on the pictures. I do not believe that you really aprove of this thing, not even you could. You are just trying to troll people into reacting against you.

So have a nice day and try again later :bow:

[LeftEyeNine]

War is bloody but has nothing to do with sexual pleasure. I guess you may easily distinguish what this topic is really about, PJ my friend.

[Kagemusha]

That is disgusting.It sounds more like the most of those people were executed rather then killed in combat.Unfortunately there are sick people every where.:furious3:

[PanzerJaeger]

Well then, can one assume that you’re not ‘jumping on a high horse’ regarding beheading videos either?

Are you speaking of those who behead or those who trade the videos?

There are plently of people who like that sort of thing - I dont know why - who would never think of killing an American or Arab.

There are whole sites dedicated to pictures of dead people.. the combination of porn and dead people is, uh, interesting - but not criminal.


I do not believe that you really aprove of this thing, not even you could.

Thats the thing.. there is nothing to approve or disapprove of. If its illegal then it should be shut down, if its not then mind your own business. No one forces you to go look. ~:)

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Darn let down by the title of a thread again. I thought we had traded ALGORE to France or something like that. Well theres still hope.

[BDC]

That is disgusting.It sounds more like the most of those people were executed rather then killed in combat.Unfortunately there are sick people every where.:furious3:
Well if they were executed lets hope the soldiers involved (or their naked wives) are identified...

Isn't war fun.

[Shahed]

The site is down finally. I completely support this display. The world should see what's going on in there not have some fantasy idea of sanitized video game warfare.


"Due to the large national attention from the recent articles from places such as CNN etc. We are currently upgrading and repairing servers and our network. Nothing on the site has changed and we will be back to normal as soon as possiable. We expect intermittent service for the next 24 hours.

Also,
Some have questioned why we republish explicit, even gruesome, images of wartime violence. One only need look back to World War II when most images of dead soldiers were censored by the government, and no cameras were allowed on the battlefield. Such whitewashing of the truth is at odds with the First Amendment freedoms that this country enjoys. These soldiers fought to preserve our freedoms, and the truth has a way of coming out. As Time Magazine said when it published the first wartime casualty photos of 3 dead soldiers on a beach in New Guinea being washed up in the tide:
Dead men have indeed died in vain if live men refuse to look at them.
We agree."

[Dâriûsh]

Are you speaking of those who behead or those who trade the videos?

There are plently of people who like that sort of thing - I dont know why - who would never think of killing an American or Arab.

There are whole sites dedicated to pictures of dead people.. the combination of porn and dead people is, uh, interesting - but not criminal.

I meant the distributors, but I suppose you’re right. It still scares me, though.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

There are whole sites dedicated to pictures of dead people.. the combination of porn and dead people is, uh, interesting - but not criminal.

Porn is more likely to be illegal than displaying pictures of the dead.



Seamus