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Seamus Fermanagh
10-03-2005, 14:40
Please declare your candidate for best Scotch Whisky.

Support your statement.


Seamus

Sorry for the mis-spelling in title.

Proletariat
10-03-2005, 14:44
Although it's one of my favorite liqours, I don't drink scotch very often. When I do, I like Talisker Ten Year quite a bit.

http://www.scotchwhisky.net/images/bots/talisker.jpg

Edit: Oh, support my statement. I like the peppery touch that fills the palate and I think the best way to enjoy it is with a tiny splash of water on top to release the flavor.

Also, it's a Highland Scotch and since that's the region I get my surname from, I have that silly reason to prefer it, too.

Edit 2: Eh, just learned it's actually Island Scotch, not Highland Scotch. Surname bedamned, it still tastes good.

English assassin
10-03-2005, 15:02
Laphroaig. ("lafroyg") Why? Because all that iodine puts hairs on your chest is why. In the same way that no one could ever challenge you for listening to a girls band when you are listening to Motorhead, you don't have to worry that anyone is going to call your whiskey a poof when you are drinking Laphroaig.

Talisker is also very fine, and I would normally claim that puts hairs on your chest too but as Prole likes it I won't.

Dâriûsh
10-03-2005, 15:32
Islay whiskey and especially Ardbeg. Because? Well, the strength and taste of an aged Ardbeg is unrivalled. It is a most enjoyable experience. ~:)

Templar Knight
10-03-2005, 15:34
Excellent choice Dâriûsh, Tobermory comes a close second with its taste and texture ~:)

BDC
10-03-2005, 15:37
I'm too poor to afford anything approaching good quality.

I did buy the cheapest Scotch stuff I could find in Prague though. Even drunk it was horrific. *shudder*

English assassin
10-03-2005, 16:41
Cask Strength picked as Best of the best all Single Malt Scotch whiskies!
Laphroaig Cask Strength has been voted "The Best of The Best" Single malt by over 100 judges in 5 countries testing malts in a "blind tasting" - all the samples were given to them without knowing which whisky they were testing.
Read the extract from the defining Whisky Magazine (March issue #46) article.

From their website. It may have been a blind tasting but I absolutely guarantee the judges knew when they had come to the Laphroiag, that is, unless there is any other whisky that tastes like a mixture of a hospital corridor and a peat bog. Which there is not.

Still, I now claim the support of Whisky magazine for my candidate.


I did buy the cheapest Scotch stuff I could find in Prague though. Even drunk it was horrific. *shudder*

I was stuck on a sailing boat once that had been victualled by someone who thought it was worth saving money by buying Turkish 100% synthetic "gin" at £3 a bottle rather than Gordons at £10 a bottle. I feel your pain.

Seamus Fermanagh
10-03-2005, 17:33
My personal favorite was called "The Water of Life" in Scots Gaelic. I was absolutely stunned to learn it was a blend.

Aside from that, the best I've had was a 30-year old Glenmorangie.

Can't say as I fancy Laphroig -- I like a hint of smoke/peat flavor to my Scotch and not the reverse.~:)

Seamus

Fragony
10-03-2005, 18:06
Great whiskey is so expensive! I would say that Shivaz is a good deal; not a single malt, but tasty for it's price.

Ser Clegane
10-03-2005, 18:12
Lagavulin would be my first choice (I love the peaty flavour and the salty tone of the Islays in general), but other Islays like Laphroaig (I think I will go for the cask strength this evening ~:) ), Ardbeg or Bowmore would definitely make me happy as well.

Talisker is also a great choice.

Reverend Joe
10-03-2005, 18:14
Hate to say it, but my favorite whiskey is not a scotch, but rather Bushmill's Irish whiskey. Still some of the best stuff around- it has a great whiskey flavor, with just the right amount of spice to it. Also, you cannot taste the alcohol- a major plus in my book.

Seamus Fermanagh
10-03-2005, 18:22
Hate to say it, but my favorite whiskey is not a scotch, but rather Bushmill's Irish whiskey. Still some of the best stuff around- it has a great whiskey flavor, with just the right amount of spice to it. Also, you cannot taste the alcohol- a major plus in my book.

Invalid answer. The query referred to Scotch whisky.

(Pssst! Of course Irish is better, but we don't want those skirts to learn of it and cut down the supply. ~;) )

Seamus

Duke Malcolm
10-03-2005, 18:31
My favourite changes depending on which mood I'm in. I've not had Laphroaig in a while, nor, in fact, any single malt in a while. I had a nice wee half bottle of High Commissioner the other day, which was not a terribly good whisky, but drinkable. Usually I indulge in a bottle of Famous Grouse -- easy to drink, nice taste, and famous. I once too went for the cheapest -- Claymore whisky. It was so awful I choked on it.

Kagemusha
10-03-2005, 18:39
Laphroagh is my favourite from smokey ones,on the other end 18 years old Chivas Regal is very smooth. ~:cheers:

GoreBag
10-03-2005, 18:47
My personal favorite was called "The Water of Life" in Scots Gaelic. I was absolutely stunned to learn it was a blend.

I grinned when I read this. All whiskey is called "The water of life" in Gaelic.

Laphroaig is an excellent choice as well, even with the drop of water or ice cubes. Glen Livet (sp? I can never remember if the label's in Gaelic or not) is also delicious, but I don't remember much about it other than that it was good.

Reverend Joe
10-03-2005, 18:54
Laphroaig is an excellent choice as well, even with the drop of water or ice cubes. Glen Livet (sp? I can never remember if the label's in Gaelic or not) is also delicious, but I don't remember much about it other than that it was good.
You water down your whiskey?! Blasphemer! Burn him!

(Yes, I know some people like to mix whiskey with water... but not me. I'm [a] hardcore [alcoholic]. ~D)

GoreBag
10-03-2005, 18:59
You water down your whiskey?! Blasphemer! Burn him!

(Yes, I know some people like to mix whiskey with water... but not me. I'm [a] hardcore [alcoholic]. ~D)

I don't, but whiskey connaisseurs do. It's how you're supposed to drink it. It brings out the 'full bouquet of flavours'.

Reverend Joe
10-03-2005, 19:04
I don't, but whiskey connaisseurs do. It's how you're supposed to drink it. It brings out the 'full bouquet of flavours'.
Well, conniseurs also eat caviar... so I wouldn't be suprised at that.

GoreBag
10-03-2005, 19:12
Well, conniseurs also eat caviar... so I wouldn't be suprised at that.

Ba-zing. I hear french fry connaisseurs eat their fries with mayonnaise, too.

Reverend Joe
10-03-2005, 20:08
Ba-zing. I hear french fry connaisseurs eat their fries with mayonnaise, too.
No, that's the Dutch- and it's not the conniseurs. They all do it.

GoreBag
10-03-2005, 20:27
No, that's the Dutch- and it's not the conniseurs. They all do it.

Most Europeans and the connaisseurs, actually. I've looked into it; I just don't understand it.

Proletariat
10-03-2005, 20:37
You only put a splash of water in. Not enough do dilute it or anything, Monsieur Alcoholic.

Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-03-2005, 21:05
Lagavulin, just in general but I also have some very ltd edition stuff too..
Talisker.
Bowmore Dawn (I think that's what it's called, the one aged in port barrels.

I saw a new 14 year old Talisker on sale at the airport a few months ago, just in case Prole is interested.

Proletariat
10-03-2005, 21:23
I saw a new 14 year old Talisker on sale at the airport a few months ago, just in case Prole is interested.

By the time this thread has run it's course I'll have to second mortgage my house. Thanks, though!

:barrel:

Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-03-2005, 21:56
In that case my I sugest that you view the Bruichladdich website:
you can invest in Whisky futures.

Sorely tempted to join people in investing $100s/$1000s in casks, cases and other goodies.
It's an Islay distillery so its booze should be roughly up your street. I know it's up mine.

:medievalcheers:

Duke Malcolm
10-04-2005, 11:00
You folks should come to Scotland and visit the distilleries. They give you a tour and give a free drink of whisky...

InsaneApache
10-04-2005, 11:22
An affordable goodie.....Dufftown Glenlivet......very nice thankyou very much.......and it's sacrelidge to dilute a good single malt....I shall have to go and have a lie down in a darkened room now~D

Ser Clegane
10-04-2005, 12:23
You folks should come to Scotland and visit the distilleries.

A friend of mine and myself actually have the secret plan (secret from our wives that is) to do just that ~:cheers:

Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-04-2005, 17:13
I just did a bit of that a few weeks ago.

Good stuff.

Captain Fishpants
10-04-2005, 17:14
An affordable goodie.....Dufftown Glenlivet......very nice thankyou very much.......and it's sacrelidge to dilute a good single malt....I shall have to go and have a lie down in a darkened room now~D

It's not necessarily wrong to add a splash of still mineral water to a single malt. Ideally, the water should be taken from the same burn as supplied the distillery, but that isn't always practical. The water helps release a few of the complex flavours and subtleties of the drink.

It is wrong to use tap water or any other chlorinated water, though. The stench and taste of chemicals simply drowns out any other flavour and ruins what should be the king of drinks.

Likewise those who add ice to malt whisky (or whiskey, if your taste runs to the Irish) should be pelted with mocking comments until they desist or leave the company of civilized beings.

As to what might tickle your Scotch-thirsty pallete, allow me to recommend the Edradour, a splendid dram from what is supposedly the smallest distillery in Scotland or (and here I advise you to sit down when the demand for payment arrives) the 25-year-old Macallan. Admittedly, I was drinking this in a 5-star hotel in the middle of Brussels, but it was still a little pricey. ~:)

Duke Malcolm
10-04-2005, 17:22
People put ice in their whisky? ugh...

I have to say, tap water works well with most single malts I've tried, but that might be because my tap water comes from the Highlands and is the second cleanest in Scotland (and our tap water is remarkably clean) and without chlorine and chemicals...

Kagemusha
10-04-2005, 17:26
Nothing to my scotch.except more Scotch.:idea2:

caesar44
10-04-2005, 17:49
Islay whiskey and especially Ardbeg. Because? Well, the strength and taste of an aged Ardbeg is unrivalled. It is a most enjoyable experience. ~:)

I thought there is a prohibition on drinking Alcohol in Islam (your sig)...

lars573
10-04-2005, 17:54
Which Scoth is best?
No such thing Scotch (and most hard liquers) are horrible abominations that aren't fit for human comsumtion. I don't drink much cause anything with alchol in it has, to me, an under taste and after taste of nail polish remover or permanent marker. Vodka is ok but only as it has no taste.

Gawain of Orkeny
10-04-2005, 18:16
Any of those from Orkeney.~D

Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-04-2005, 18:24
ok, Gawain, what's your Orkney deal?

I've been wanting to know for a long time.

Go on, share.

Edit: what do people think of Highland Park, Old Pulteney and other Northern Isles whisky?

GoreBag
10-04-2005, 18:57
No such thing Scotch (and most hard liquers) are horrible abominations that aren't fit for human comsumtion. I don't drink much cause anything with alchol in it has, to me, an under taste and after taste of nail polish remover or permanent marker. Vodka is ok but only as it has no taste.

And from an inhabitant of New Scotland, no less! For shame!

Duke Malcolm
10-04-2005, 19:05
No such thing Scotch (and most hard liquers) are horrible abominations that aren't fit for human comsumtion. I don't drink much cause anything with alchol in it has, to me, an under taste and after taste of nail polish remover or permanent marker. Vodka is ok but only as it has no taste.

Your taste-buds must be dead, Vodka tastes like a 1:4 mix of petroleum and paintstripper...

Gawain of Orkeny
10-04-2005, 19:13
ok, Gawain, what's your Orkney deal?



Gawain is the eldest son of Lot of Orkney and Morgause. He is the nephew of Arthur and one of his closest companions. He is the brother of Gareth, Gaheris and Agravaine, and the half-brother of Mordred.


In case you have not guessed Im a longtime member of the Round Table Knights clan RTK.

http://www.legends.dm.net/kingarthur/gawain.html

So you see I am also a King. Maybe I should join the Imperialists Club.

Reverend Joe
10-04-2005, 19:27
No such thing Scotch (and most hard liquers) are horrible abominations that aren't fit for human comsumtion. I don't drink much cause anything with alchol in it has, to me, an under taste and after taste of nail polish remover or permanent marker. Vodka is ok but only as it has no taste.
I've never met anyone who liked the taste of vodka before- namely, unflavored vodka. Eech. :tongue:

Ser Clegane
10-04-2005, 19:27
As to what might tickle your Scotch-thirsty pallete, allow me to recommend the Edradour, a splendid dram from what is supposedly the smallest distillery in Scotland or (and here I advise you to sit down when the demand for payment arrives) the 25-year-old Macallan. Admittedly, I was drinking this in a 5-star hotel in the middle of Brussels, but it was still a little pricey. ~:)

Hmm ... earlier this year I had the opportunity to try an Edradour (10y, cask strength) at a whiky tasting ... yummy ~:)

Drinking a great whisky at a hotel bar is somewhat decadent though ~D - the prices tend to be really obscene.


Edit: what do people think of Highland Park, Old Pulteney and other Northern Isles whisky?
Highland Park is quite good ... I did not get too excited about Old Pulteney though

lars573
10-04-2005, 22:51
Your taste-buds must be dead, Vodka tastes like a 1:4 mix of petroleum and paintstripper...
Dead no, that is my sense of smell. Which as a result makes my sense of taste kind of wierd.


I've never met anyone who liked the taste of vodka before- namely, unflavored vodka. Eech.
The first time I had Vodka was at newyears last. I was mixing the Smirnov with sprite most of the night, then I tried a shot straight up and it wasn't bad.

Beirut
10-05-2005, 00:23
I killed a bottle (not in one night) of 18 year-old Glenmoranghie for my 40th birthday. Cost me $125. It was very good scotch but probably too good for me. I'm not enough of scotch fanatic to appreciate the subtleties that bottle had. Was still damn fine scotch, though light. I prefer, if I have to drink Scotch, Lagavulin. That stuff has body.

I much, much prefer bourbon. Booker's Best (from Jim Beam) is the top of the line in that department. From a single keg straight into the bottle, no additives or perversions of any kind. It's the only single barrel, straight keg bourbon there is. Most bottles runabout 126 proof and $80Can. Hard to find too. Wild Turkey is the best readily available bourbon. The 12 year-old Turkey is pure gold.

I tried a shot of single barrel Jack Daniel's last weekend and didn't like it at all. Smoky aftertaste really hits hard. Not peaty/smoky like scotch, I mean smoke-smoky. Almost unpleasent

Strike For The South
10-05-2005, 00:28
I much, much prefer bourbon. Booker's Best (from Jim Beam) is the top of the line in that department.
YES

I tried a shot of single barrel Jack Daniel's last weekend and didn't like it at all. Smoky aftertaste really hits hard. Not peaty/smoky like scotch, I mean smoke-smoky. Almost unpleasent
NO

Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-05-2005, 03:25
what about knob creek?

Seamus Fermanagh
10-05-2005, 05:12
I grinned when I read this. All whiskey is called "The water of life" in Gaelic.

Och, aye...butm m'man here kens it was the trade-name o' tha' brand too. Came in a lovely wee crock.

Seamus

English assassin
10-05-2005, 11:34
Edit: what do people think of Highland Park, Old Pulteney and other Northern Isles whisky

Highland park is my whisky of choice when I want a whisky that DOESN'T taste like licking a hospital floor. Its fine but truth be told it doesn't stand out frrom a lot of other perfectly fine whiskys for me. I bought my first bottle on Orkney though and I reckon the Island economy needs my help more than Speyside.

As for water, a dash is recommended, though I usually don't bother. But ice? You would be lead to a darkened room with a revolver in it and expected to do the decent thing if you asked for ice in your malt in St James'...

Beirut
10-05-2005, 11:46
what about knob creek?

Knob Creek is very good. I've gone through two or three bottles of Knob Creek and always enjoy it. It's part of a "small batch" collection that's listed here:http://www.smallbatch.com Knob Creek is easy to find here in Canadaland and runs about $40 a bottle.

I've never had the Bakers or the Basil Hayden's, but I'm sure they're tasty.

But after tasting many bourbons, from good to excellent, the Booker's Best remains the, well... the best.

The booze stores here are carrying 16 year-old Bushmills. Definitely getting a bottle of that. $80! Gah! Maybe a Christmas present for myself. Trying to find the 21 year-old Bushmills but having no luck.

Fragony
10-05-2005, 12:06
Ba-zing. I hear french fry connaisseurs eat their fries with mayonnaise, too.

Always wondered, for what do you non dutchies use mayonnaise?

Proletariat
10-05-2005, 13:46
Egg salad and bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwiches.

Duke Malcolm
10-05-2005, 13:57
prawn cocktail, tuna mayonnaise

English assassin
10-05-2005, 14:30
Always wondered, for what do you non dutchies use mayonnaise?

Nothing. Yuk.

Dâriûsh
10-05-2005, 22:02
I thought there is a prohibition on drinking Alcohol in Islam (your sig)... :grin2:

Alcohol is indeed haram (forbidden), but so is pork, yet I enjoy both. I like a glass or two, but not too much, as I do not appreciate being intoxicated.

lars573
10-06-2005, 03:37
I thought there is a prohibition on drinking Alcohol in Islam (your sig)...
And Christians are not supposed to eat any kind of meat but fish on Fridays, give 10% of their income (before taxes) to the church, and give up something they really love at lent.

GoreBag
10-06-2005, 05:04
And Christians are not supposed to eat any kind of meat but fish on Fridays, give 10% of their income (before taxes) to the church, and give up something they really love at lent.

Correction: Catholics.

I agree with English_Assassin. Mayonnaise is disgusting, and I eat poutine at least once a week.

caesar44
10-06-2005, 08:58
:grin2:

Alcohol is indeed haram (forbidden), but so is pork, yet I enjoy both. I like a glass or two, but not too much, as I do not appreciate being intoxicated.

:2thumbsup:

Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-06-2005, 21:32
just wondering: does anybody else make whisky using malt or is it all Scottish?

Duke Malcolm
10-06-2005, 21:55
The Japanese?

Beirut
10-07-2005, 00:34
just wondering: does anybody else make whisky using malt or is it all Scottish?

There are single malt Irish whiskies as well.

Like this beauty of a bottle of 21 year-old single malt Bushmills Irish Whisky. As soon as I can find one of these I will own one of these.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/horsesass/Bushmills.bmp

This sweetheart of a bourbon might not be a single malt, but it does come from only one single keg. This one I've got. ~:cheers:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/horsesass/1605.jpg

Reverend Joe
10-07-2005, 00:37
There are single malt Irish whiskies as well.

Like this beauty of a bottle of 21 year-old single malt Bushmills Irish Whisky. As soon as I can find one of these I will own one of these.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/horsesass/Bushmills.bmp
All right, Beirut- good taste! ~:cheers:

*smacks lips*

Kaiser of Arabia
10-07-2005, 02:57
Bah. Moonshine tastes better.

Strike For The South
10-07-2005, 13:52
Bah. Moonshine tastes better.

Moonshine tastes like carp and rubbing achool a dog licked

Lemur
10-07-2005, 19:37
This stuff got me through college:

http://www.scotchwhisky.net/images/vatted/sheepdip.jpg

That's right, it's called Sheep Dip. It's a bit tangy, but the price used to be right -- certainly one of the cheapest real single-malts an undergraduate could find. (I think the price has climed qutie a bit in the centuries since I was in school.)

The label is sufficiently scary, what with all the sheep running from a man in the background, that my roommates used to be afraid to drink it. And if you've been an undergrad, you know that keeping your roommates away from your hooch is a serious business.

Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-07-2005, 22:42
good moonshine is awesome stuff.

In a belljar straight from West Virginia.


Thanks for the answers about the whole malt thing. I just couldn't think of one offhand the otherday. I figured that people other than the Scots must use malt too.