View Full Version : Well, I'm in the Army Now
Del Arroyo
10-07-2005, 07:50
Well, I finally signed my papers today and swore in, I'll ship the 18th. Got exactly the job I wanted, plus much better extras than I ever could have hoped for-- a rare option to sign up for 2 years with no strings, or 4 years with a $20,000 enlistment bonus.
37F, Psychological Operations-- marketing and PR for our forces on the ground. Learn a third language, travel the world, hang out with Special Forces guys, as well as getting to jump out of a few airplanes, shoot some guns and blow some stuff up along the way-- pretty much everything I'm looking for out of the Army. ~D
I was actually set on 18X, Special Forces Candidate when I thought 37F wouldn't be available, but I like to think that PsyOps has all of the things I want out of Special Forces, and none of the things I don't need. Not that I've any objection to hard-core ruckmarching and extreme wilderness survival, but they're not exactly central to my life plan, you know? ~;)
..
What's really funny is the amount of time and BS it took me to get here, like five or six days at MEPS over the course of two weeks. When I first got into it all I was a GED applicant, which the head recruiting sergeant ensured me wouldn't make a difference-- wrong! When I finally got through the medical and all the other bullock, nothing good was coming up on the job screen and I wasn't ready to jump in-- which was of course a four-alarm emergency. I got to sit in the hotseat while every damn recruiter in the battallion tried their best on me, all the way up to the First Sergeant and the Master Sergeant-- they tried to do some stuff for me, but when none of it worked out (because-- duh-- I didn't have a Diploma) I had to sit and smile through some pretty intense hard sells.
What I finally did (which I'd been telling them all along) was straighten out my College Transcript and get the semester's worth of credits I needed to qualify. I had a bunch of credits from subjects I recently tested out of, and it turned out all I needed was to make a bunch of phone calls, take a couple more tests and get everything in line. Everyone seemed genuinely suprised and impressed, which I guess means they didn't believe me before, but that's fine. ~D
..
So, armed with two good legs and more knowledge of Recruiting than I ever thought I'd learn, I head to Fort Benning in a couple of weeks. Evildoers, here I come ~:cool:
DA
Papewaio
10-07-2005, 08:06
Well you are at least the second org member to join the Psyops after being here... wonder if there is a trend... damn mods screwing with peoples minds :shifty: ~;)
Khan7 I believe is the other one...
Kanamori
10-07-2005, 15:04
I head to Fort Benning in a couple of weeks. Evildoers, here I come
I've been there.~:) Well, only in a video game:embarassed:
Seamus Fermanagh
10-07-2005, 15:12
DA:
God bless and keep you, and thank you for your service.
Seamus
Good luck to you and be safe~:cheers: , and come back to visit us when
you can.
Crazed Rabbit
10-07-2005, 15:36
Cograts, and God speed!
Also, thank you and God bless!
Crazed Rabbit
Proletariat
10-07-2005, 17:43
Welcome aboard!
Edit: I think I might want to invest in a Scrabble board.
The interesting thing is whenever somebody says or writes PsyOps I think of people using mental powers to disrupt the enemy, give him headaches, ect ect...
I know it isn't but that mental picture simply won't leave me. It is actually quite funny.
So what kind of special ability did you have?~D ~;)
Evildoers, here I come ~:cool:
DA
Make sure you know who they are...
and there's a phrase from half life that springs to mind;
"good luck buddy - you're gonna need it"
Alexander the Pretty Good
10-07-2005, 21:51
The interesting thing is whenever somebody says or writes PsyOps I think of people using mental powers to disrupt the enemy, give him headaches, ect ect...
I know it isn't but that mental picture simply won't leave me. It is actually quite funny.
So what kind of special ability did you have?
For whatever reason, I think the same thing.~D
Big King Sanctaphrax
10-07-2005, 21:57
The interesting thing is whenever somebody says or writes PsyOps I think of people using mental powers to disrupt the enemy, give him headaches, ect ect...
I know it isn't but that mental picture simply won't leave me. It is actually quite funny.
So what kind of special ability did you have?~D ~;)
Heh, me too. I think I played Red Alert 2 too much.
Man, that game ruled.
Ianofsmeg16
10-07-2005, 22:02
Good luck mate!!!
You need to graduate to join the army in the US? Or just as an officer?
yesdachi
10-07-2005, 22:16
Good Luck! Let us know how it goes when you have the chance.~:cheers:
Kekvit Irae
10-07-2005, 22:48
You do NOT want to be stationed at Fort Benning, trust me. In time, you will learn what my title means and why I have it there. 30th AG is Limbo and Hell all rolled into one Processing Station.
And BDC, to be an Commissioned Officer, you need to have at least four years of college. Everyone else may choose to be Enlisted, and then work their way on to Warrant Officer if they choose to, all without a college education. Now, there is a program that allows High School Seniors to join the Army, go through nine weeks of basic training, and then go home to complete High School before returning back to the Army for advanced training. Before, you couldnt get into the Army without a HS diploma or GED.
That's not to say that a college education is a bad thing for Enlisted. With only a HS diploma or GED, you start out as an E1 Private. The lowest of the low. With JROTC (High School ROTC program), or Eagle Scout from Boy Scouts, you will recieve an automatic promotion to E2 Private (and earn your first stripe). An Associate Degree in College will net you an E3 Private First Class rank. Four years of college (provided you didnt opt for Officer Canidate School) will get you E4 Specialist.
And trust me, the pay difference between an E1 and an E2 is big enough to make you think about what you want to do with your education.
Taffy_is_a_Taff
10-07-2005, 23:02
DA: just thought I'd say good job.
~:cheers:
~D
Proletariat
10-07-2005, 23:05
You do NOT want to be stationed at Fort Benning, trust me. In time, you will learn what my title means and why I have it there. 30th AG is Limbo and Hell all rolled into one Processing Station.
Benning is probably the best place for a person like DA. What is your MOS, kekvitirae?
Kekvit Irae
10-07-2005, 23:14
11B was my MOS. Keyword: was. I've been there twice in the past five years, both times I couldnt complete training due to exercise-induced asthma. Ah well, I can dream, cant I?
The interesting thing is whenever somebody says or writes PsyOps I think of people using mental powers to disrupt the enemy, give him headaches, ect ect...
I know it isn't but that mental picture simply won't leave me. It is actually quite funny.
Me too.~D
Wish you luck and hope you´ll have the fun you expect from it DA.
Proletariat
10-07-2005, 23:21
11B was my MOS. Keyword: was. I've been there twice in the past five years, both times I couldnt complete training due to exercise-induced asthma. Ah well, I can dream, cant I?
11B was the MOS they put in your contract? I don't understand, with that job's particular restrictions.
Good luck.
Del Arroyo
10-08-2005, 00:00
Just to clarify, my basic will be at Benning, I'm not sure where my AIT will be. There are only one or two Active Duty PsyOps battallions (the rest all being Reserve), which is/are stationed at Fort Bragg, so odds are that will be my first duty station.
As far as what to expect from Benning, I'm hopeful. I've heard it's not as tough as Bragg, but not as wussy as Jackson either, so I'm expecting a sufficient challenge.
I thought all the 11B went through basic and AIT at Bragg, Kekvitirae?
As far as PsyOps, yeah, it kind of makes me think of that, too ~D (*closes eyes and begins humming, levitates five feet off the floor*)
Thanks guys for the well wishes,
DA
Kekvit Irae
10-08-2005, 00:09
I thought all the 11B went through basic and AIT at Bragg, Kekvitirae?
Nope. Infantry School (where you will be going) is located in Fort Benning. And dont pay attention to the name; anyone who takes basic at Fort Benning will be doing their processing at Infantry Hall at 30th AG, and will be doing basic downrange at Sand Hill alongside Infantry companies, though yours will be different as you only have BCT+AIT (Infantry has OSUT).
I do, however, wish to warn you ahead of time. Normal processing for places like Hood or Knox or Jackson is 3-4 days before you go downrange to your training unit. In Benning, you will be there an average of 9 long, boring days.
Proletariat
10-08-2005, 00:11
Normal processing for places like Hood or Knox or Jackson is 3-4 days before you go downrange to your training unit. In Benning, you will be there an average of 9 long, boring days.
Processing, the worst part of all of basic, was 9 days for me at Jackson.
Kekvit Irae
10-08-2005, 00:12
Processing, the worst part of all of basic, was 9 days for me at Jackson.
I feel your pain. First time I went in, I was stuck for 9 days in Processing. The second time I went in (back in May/June), I was stuck for 21 days pending discharge. :sadg:
There are only one or two Active Duty PsyOps battallions (the rest all being Reserve)
~D
Given our quite lightheaded talk about the general feeling I couldn't help but laught a bit at that. The image of entire battalions of men putting their hands to their temples while they rush across a battlefield is simply too good to be true... :laugh4:
Sorry... All good again.
Good luck, and may you stay out of my mind.~;)
Kekvit Irae
10-08-2005, 02:58
~D
Given our quite lightheaded talk about the general feeling I couldn't help but laught a bit at that. The image of entire battalions of men putting their hands to their temples while they rush across a battlefield is simply too good to be true... :laugh4:
http://www.kekvitirae.com/crush.jpg
I found that on the random boards of 4chan, and it was too cute not to save.
KafirChobee
10-08-2005, 05:26
Good luck, Del. But, believe me when i tell you that some of what you have signed up for will not be what you thougt it might be.
Creating the ghosts of an opponents ancestors to convince them to ceases hostilities .... well, is dumb. Yet, it remains the primary aspect of convincing an enemy it is wrong (since 'nam ... got a better idea?).
The people you will be dealing with ... have no clue. And, don't want to be given a key to open any doors that cannot be blown by high explosives.
Still, good luck ... good fortune ... and keep any ideals you may have to yourself. If you have any. Stay safe ... be fair in your actions, and remember what ever you commit ... so does your family [they raised you].
Good luck, good hunting, and stay a humanbeing.
Good luck and stay safe...!
mercian billman
10-08-2005, 19:19
$20,000 enlistment bonus.
While I was at my MEPS station waiting to ship out, my friends and I made fun of all the enlistment bonuses soldiers got and we gave them alot of crap for it. I left bootcamp with $800 dollars, which means after all my pay deductions and plane ticket, I was paid approximately $.85 cents an hour.
I'm not laughing anymore~;)
Divinus Arma
10-09-2005, 02:11
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
It isn't too late DA! You are not "in" until you ship!
You ARE A SUCKER if you think you only signed for 2 years!!!!!!
They will get you with stop loss because everyone is required to sign for
EIGHT
YEARS
All branches have a policy called "stop loss". The army says: "No. You can't leave until we let you. And we need you right now, so we are not going to let you."
The Marine Corps has Stop Loss, but only institutes it across the board to the whole branch. The Army has "selective" stop loss. They get to pick and choose their suckers. And even after you get out, you still have that six year obligation. For you, it won't be up until 2013!!!!!!!!!!!! They can call you back at any time!!!!! My neighbor did four and got out. Then he went to border patrol and worked there for two years. THEN HE GOT REACTIVATED AND HAS BEEN RUNNING CONVOYS IN IRAQ FOR THE LAST YEAR!!!!!!!!!!
Dude. I know what I am talking about. Serving your country is awesome. But not the army. Do you want to hear the WORST part? Do you think you are GUARANTEED to stay in your job? NOPE! They will certainly train you, then they can move you anywhere they need you. Feel free to talk to your recruiter who will lie to your face.
Go in any branch other than the Army. ANY branch. Did I say MY branch? NO. I said ANY branch. The army is also the deadliest branch because they do all the nasty occupation work with the least discipline and the least training. At least in the Corps you get a fighting chance becasue all your buddies can kick ass! Or go in the navy and sit on a boat. Or go in the air force and relax for a few years!
TRUST ME PLEASE. I have done six + years in the Corps and I have been to the 'Stan. I have friends at the 'Roq. I have been to air force bases and army bases. I have worked with all branches in many capacities!
Dude. PM if you have any questions. Crap, I will talk to you on the PHONE if need be!!!!!!!!! Your a good guy. Don't screw yourself over with the crap death branch.
Kekvit Irae
10-09-2005, 02:37
:hairpin1:
Go in any branch other than the Army. ANY branch. Did I say MY branch? NO. I said ANY branch. The army is also the deadliest branch because they do all the nasty occupation work with the least discipline and the least training. At least in the Corps you get a fighting chance becasue all your buddies can kick ass! Or go in the navy and sit on a boat. Or go in the air force and relax for a few years!
.
Marine Corps BS - if its so great why are you stating your getting out? :help:
Divinus Arma
10-09-2005, 02:56
:hairpin1:
Ya? Really? Well look at YOUR member title.
I seem to recall having a similar conversation with you on this last year...~;)
I am just trying to give the man some straight scoop. You know everything I posted is true.
(1) You have to sign for eight in the inactive reserve.
(2) They can keep your butt for up that eight years, either through stop loss or recall.
(3) You are only guaranteed the training and MOS. You are not guaranteed your billet. They can billet you in a job that has nothing to do with your MOS if they want to and you know it.
(4) The Army IS sloppy overall. These religious militants purposely target soldiers and avoid Marines. This is a combat proven fact and I have been there so I know what the hell I am talking about. It happened in Afghanistan while I was there, and it still happens in Iraq today. Do Marines get messed with? Sure. But they hunt down the bad guys. Remember Fallujah? That was a Marine Corps party.
Divinus Arma
10-09-2005, 03:03
Marine Corps BS - if its so great why are you stating your getting out? :help:
I have voluntarily fulfilled all of my service time and now I am ready to move on. You all read my thread on missing Staff. I was considering it as a 20+ career, but now I am looking to move on. DON'T YOU DARE DIMINSH MY SERVICE BECAUSE I CHOSE TO GET OUT.
Did I say "I hate the Corps"? Find me a post where I said that Redleg. You Army guys just can never admit that the Marine Corps has something unique. I have talked to guys that have been in multiple branches. When they enter the Corps, THEY STAY. And they all say the same thing, "this is what I wanted all along".
PERIOD.
What happens when a Marine Sergeant joins the Army? HE SKIPS BOOT CAMP AND GETS PROMOTED.
What happens when an Army Sergenat joins my Corps? HE GOES TO MARINE CORPS BOOT CAMP AND GETS DEMOTED TO PRIVATE.
Think that there just might be a reason for this?
(1) You have to sign for eight in the inactive reserve.
Airforce contracts are also for eight years. I would dare say that the Navy also does the same since they all work for the same Department of Defense.
(2) They can keep your butt for up that eight years, either through stop loss or recall.
All branches can do this - plus the thing that you are leaving off - they can go past the eight years also.
(3) You are only guaranteed the training and MOS. You are not guaranteed your billet. They can billet you in a job that has nothing to do with your MOS if they want to and you know it.
The harder the MOS the less likely this is to happen. Several MOS will always go to the job that is the function of the MOS. THere are several that your statement does not apply to at all.
(4) The Army IS sloppy overall. Says the Marine.
These religious militants purposely target soldiers and avoid Marines. This is a combat proven fact and I have been there so I know what the hell I am talking about. It happened in Afghanistan while I was there, and it still happens in Iraq today. Do Marines get messed with? Sure. But they hunt down the bad guys. Remember Fallujah? That was a Marine Corps party.
I also remember where the Marine Corps went during Desert Storm - verus where the Army went. Guess who had more success during that combat - it was not the Marines.
I have voluntarily fulfilled all of my service time and now I am ready to move on. You all read my thread on missing Staff. I was considering it as a 20+ career, but now I am looking to move on. DON'T YOU DARE DIMINSH MY SERVICE BECAUSE I CHOSE TO GET OUT.
However you wish to diminsh my service in the Army. You get what you ask for.
Did I say "I hate the Corps"? Find me a post where I said that Redleg. You Army guys just can never admit that the Marine Corps has something unique. I have talked to guys that have been in multiple branches. When they enter the Corps, THEY STAY. And they all say the same thing, "this is what I wanted all along".
PERIOD.
And did I say the Marine Corps was not unique.
What happens when a Marine Sergeant joins the Army? HE SKIPS BOOT CAMP AND GETS PROMOTED.
Thats because he has already gone to boot.
What happens when an Army Sergenat joins my Corps? HE GOES TO MARINE CORPS BOOT CAMP AND GETS DEMOTED TO PRIVATE.
Think that there just might be a reason for this?
When the Marine Corps officers and enlisted train at Fort Sill they are primarily learning from the United States Army Field Artillery School - care to guess how many Marine Corps Officers I was ahead of in my OBC and OAC classes. Guess where the Marines graduated compared to us army LT's.
Guess How many Marines were re-cycled that year. COme on now - you want to bash the Army - but you can't take the Corps getting the same treatment. Poor little Marine get real - you want to dish it out - then be a man and take it back. You seem to have a problem recongizing that service is service - each individual goes to the branch and the MOS that they think will best serve them.
Divinus Arma
10-09-2005, 03:25
Airforce contracts are also for eight years. I would dare say that the Navy also does the same since they all work for the same Department of Defense.
AGREED. But does DA know this? Seems he does not. "No strings attached" 2 year stint. Nope.
All branches can do this - plus the thing that you are leaving off - they can go past the eight years also.
I SAID THIS. Bu the Marine Corps only institutes Coprs wide stop loss. The Army doe sselective stop loss. Remeber the liberal hoot and holler about the "back door draft"? The Corps had already issued stop loss like a year prior and nobody gave a damn. I actually re-enlisted during stop loss and demanded to go to Iraq. But, alas, the Corps also has "stop move" at the same time.
The harder the MOS the less likely this is to happen. Several MOS will always go to the job that is the function of the MOS. THere are several that your statement does not apply to at all.
Well, he will be attached to an infantry unit with what he is looking at anyway. He wants to go rock and roll.
Says the Marine.
I also remember where the Marine Corps went during Desert Storm - verus where the Army went. Guess who had more success during that combat - it was not the Marines.
Says the soldier. You still didn't address my questions spinmeister AND you contradicted yourself in your VERY FIRST POST.
Marine Corps BS - if its so great why are you stating your getting out?
I said JOIN ANY BRANCH OTHER THAN THE ARMY. ISNT THAT WHAT I SAID? I think that's what I said. Am I confused? Let's check the record:
Go in any branch other than the Army. ANY branch. Did I say MY branch? NO. I said ANY branch.
Yep. That's what I said.
ANY BRANCH.
Are we clear?
ARE WE CLEAR?
:army:
AGREED. But does DA know this? Seems he does not. "No strings attached" 2 year stint. Nope.
Then he should pay attention to what he signs because its spelled out on the contract - and futhermore you making an assumption that is not in his statement.
I SAID THIS. Bu the Marine Corps only institutes Coprs wide stop loss. The Army doe sselective stop loss.
Then you might want to check out how the Airforce does it - its even more selective.
Remeber the liberal hoot and holler about the "back door draft"? The Corps had already issued stop loss like a year prior and nobody gave a damn. I actually re-enlisted during stop loss and demanded to go to Iraq. But, alas, the Corps also has "stop move" at the same time.
Stop loss is not a back door draft - no matter how much some would like to claim it is. Nor is the method in which the Army does it wrong - its based upon the needs of the Service.
Well, he will be attached to an infantry unit with what he is looking at anyway. He wants to go rock and roll.
Physops is normally assigned to special missions not just any old infantry unit. But then you wouldn't know this being that your in the Marine Corps.
Says the soldier. You still didn't address my questions spinmeister AND you contradicted yourself in your VERY FIRST POST.
Actually I did it on purpose - for a very spefic reason. Maybe you will figure it out if you think hard enough on it. Why does the Marine Corps require the Army enlisted to redo Boot - probably the same reason the Army requires Marine Corps officers to get retrained in the Army MOS that they transfered into.
I said JOIN ANY BRANCH OTHER THAN THE ARMY. ISNT THAT WHAT I SAID? I think that's what I said. Am I confused? Let's check the record:
Yep. That's what I said.
ANY BRANCH.
Are we clear?
ARE WE CLEAR?
:army:
Yep - that was only part of the issue now isn't maybe you should think before you diminish the service of people who serve in the Army - but don't want your service to be diminished.
Divinus Arma
10-09-2005, 04:13
Redleg, I conclude by first saying you are going around my statements without actually reading them or answering them. Please take the time to read the rest of this and not just scan it.
It appeared that you were diminshing my service only based on the fact that I was getting out
if it's so great then why are you getting out. This was based on a statement that you wrote. BY ALL MEANS, please feel free to make any statements on the quality of the Marine Corps that you wish. I have no issue with this. The point of my original statement was to give DA some insight into the Army that he may not have had before.
Redleg, the men and women of the United States Army are all fine individuals and they serve this country well. My beef is with the Institution of the Army. It is the Institution of the Army organization that has let our men and women down with what I see to be substandard policies for ongoing-training and combat security.
Finally, I agree with you, and have the entire time, that all branches have an eight year obligation. My intent, Redleg, was simply to demonstrate that there are other alternatives to the Army that I believe are superior for any volunteer. I stated repeatedly that any branch is better than the Army. I never desired to promote the Marine Corps specifically, but you seemed to have taken my statements that way and drew me into a defensive argument on a side topic of branch superiority. I suggest that you re-read some of my comments for clarity so that you may perhaps gain a better understanding of my intent. I only believe that our good friend DA deserves the best, and I know you feel the same. For me, this means a stern warning to him on facts he may not have known.
I'll give you the last word if you should decide to reply.
Redleg, I conclude by first saying you are going around my statements without actually reading them or answering them. Please take the time to read the rest of this and not just scan it.
Yep I was playing word games because of your diminishing the service of anyone who served in the United States Army. I would not tolerate it when I was in - and I see no reason to tolerate it now. Certain statements such as this are offensive and untrue from not only my experience but speaking with my brother who is a Frocked 1SG - two times below the zone selected for promotion to SFC and now MSG, one of the rare breeds of NCO that you claim and seem to be of.
The army is also the deadliest branch because they do all the nasty occupation work with the least discipline and the least training
Lets see an individual who spent the last year training Kuwaiti soldiers how to function, fight and survive in the field with the M1A2. Who is about to return to Iraq as a 1SG, who has spent 2 monthes in the field since his return from Kuwait and has another month and a half in the field training before his deployment with his unit. You made it personal with your emotional appeal opening and degrading of the branch of service in which I dedicated 15 years of my life to.
It appeared that you were diminshing my service only based on the fact that I was getting out This was based on a statement that you wrote. BY ALL MEANS, please feel free to make any statements on the quality of the Marine Corps that you wish. I have no issue with this. The point of my original statement was to give DA some insight into the Army that he may not have had before.
However you chose not to give him insight but to degrade the Army. Insight into the Military and the Army spefic is not done is the way in which you first started and then responded to K with.
Redleg, the men and women of the United States Army are all fine individuals and they serve this country well. My beef is with the Institution of the Army. It is the Institution of the Army organization that has let our men and women down with what I see to be substandard policies for ongoing-training and combat security.
Now that is a statement I can live with - most of your other statements were not in such a manner, but a direct attack on the Army and the service of those who were in that institution.
Finally, I agree with you, and have the entire time, that all branches have an eight year obligation. My intent, Redleg, was simply to demonstrate that there are other alternatives to the Army that I believe are superior for any volunteer. I stated repeatedly that any branch is better than the Army. I never desired to promote the Marine Corps specifically, but you seemed to have taken my statements that way and drew me into a defensive argument on a side topic of branch superiority. I suggest that you re-read some of my comments for clarity so that you may perhaps gain a better understanding of my intent. I only believe that our good friend DA deserves the best, and I know you feel the same. For me, this means a stern warning to him on facts he may not have known.
I'll give you the last word if you should decide to reply.
If your intent was to inform - you should of stayed away from this initial comments and responded in this manner - and given him real information verus hype.
Divinus Arma
10-09-2005, 04:53
Now that we have enjoyed a firm, mature, and passionate argument on the nature of modern warfare in the 21st century, let us turn to other topics.
Let us dispense with the pleasantries and discuss something extremely serious that demands all of our attention.
First, consider this and follow all instructions carefully or lose the full impact of the sensory shock:
Important Topic #1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=948808&postcount=211).
When you are done with that, we have something even more important to discuss here. Again, you must follow all instructions or risk losing precious information:
Important Topic #2. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=948898&postcount=188)
After you are done, let us celebrate the life of a noble American who has decided to serve his country with courage and honor. Regardless of branch.
:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:
Del Arroyo
10-09-2005, 05:06
GAH!!!
Ok then. Yes, I am aware that it is an 8-year commitment. If I had to put money on it, I would wager they will not hold me over, but if they do, c'est la vie.
It was my impression that the ones generally held over for selective stop loss were people in highly specialized technical fields where there was a critical shortage. PsyOps is generalist and only mildly technical.
Also, I was pretty sure when I "signed" and have now decided to switch my contract from the 2 years over to 4 before I ship. I figure that on a 2-year stint I'd be unlikely to get any of the optional training or the more interesting assignments-- 2 mediocre years don't stand a chance next to 4 or even 5 years of really going for it. Plus with 4 years I get $20,000.
If they want to give me $20,000 to turn around and send me to do something totally unrelated to PsyOps, that's fine with me :dizzy2:
Divinus Arma, I sincerely appreciate your concern and your passion. Don't think for a second that I don't respect the Marines or that I did not consider joining them at length. The Army simply seems to offer more of the opportunities I am looking for.
Divinus Arma and Redleg, it has been disconcerting and amusing to read your posts, thank you both. :bow:
DA
Divinus Arma
10-09-2005, 05:11
Gah is right. Dont forget to read important topics 1 and 2.
In all sincerity, good luck to you. If this is what you want, then I wish you happiness, safety, and moral courage when you need it. :bow:
Always remember that doing your duty does not include following unlawful orders. If you think it is unlawful, raise hell.
vBulletin® v3.7.1, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.