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doc_bean
10-11-2005, 12:17
http://www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/proof1.html

Kagemusha
10-11-2005, 12:25
So there are no satellites on the orbit?No GPS?Funny works for me.Sometimes one should get his nose out of his math books and look at the sky.~D

Papewaio
10-11-2005, 12:51
I will give all my money (and even my life) to the first person who knows a scientific publication, f.i. in PHYSICAL REVIEW, that contradicts the current 28.800km/hr-limit.

Is he trying to go for the first Darwin award for lack of physics knowledge...

He states: In the air and at ground-level, the highest speed is 1.190km/hr .
Which is Mach 1... every time you hear a sonic boom from a plane this moron is disproved.

Ianofsmeg16
10-11-2005, 13:22
There are hospitals specially designed to hold people like him...i think the phrase 'Mad raving lunatic' comes to mind. Or maybe he's watched to much conspiracy programs

English assassin
10-11-2005, 13:54
At last, something stupider than creationism.

The Stranger
10-11-2005, 14:34
:scholar:i think he;s totally right...finally a smart man....:help:hey why is everyone staring at me:help: ... AAAAAAAAAH RUN STRANGER RUN:hanged: ...~D

no furreall :end:

The Stranger
10-11-2005, 14:40
OMG ~:eek: HE"S DUTCH...I COULDNT RESIST TO SEND HIM A MAIL...AND IT SAID mpeters@freemail.nl NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The_Doctor
10-11-2005, 15:48
Is it you?

Geoffrey S
10-11-2005, 16:10
He states: In the air and at ground-level, the highest speed is 1.190km/hr .
Which is Mach 1... every time you hear a sonic boom from a plane this moron is disproved.
Exactly. Even basic scientific knowledge and everyday sightings disprove this nutter. This kind of nonsense is almost as bad as the Biostabil 2000.

Marcellus
10-11-2005, 16:23
In the air and at ground-level, the highest speed is 1.190km/hr .
High in the sky and only at the equator and only with a flight to the west, airplanes can get 2.860km/hr and nothing more, due to the rotation of the earth (40.000km in 24 hours = 1.666km/hr).
This is the reason why the Concorde is NOT supersonic from NY to Paris.

The Earth may be moving at 1,666km/h, but so is everything on it, even when we think we're stationary. Thus the movement of Earth just isn't counted when talking about the speeds of objects on Earth. The man is talking rubbish.

BDC
10-11-2005, 16:23
Heh, funny.

How does he explain using a telescope and tracking satillites in orbit visually?

doc_bean
10-11-2005, 16:23
OMG ~:eek: HE"S DUTCH...I COULDNT RESIST TO SEND HIM A MAIL...AND IT SAID mpeters@freemail.nl NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Don't worry, he's Belgian, he's a bit of a local celebrity here in Leuven (my uni town).

My favourite part is still that he claims all 'sattelite' transmissions are really done by planes, must be cost efficient :dizzy2:

discovery1
10-11-2005, 16:25
IDIOT! Or he needs to hook me up with what he's smoking......

The Stranger
10-11-2005, 16:26
Don't worry, he's Belgian he's a bit of a local celebrity here in Leuven (my uni town).

My favourite part is still that he claims all 'sattelite' transmissions are really done by planes, must be cost efficient :dizzy2:

oooh that explains all ~;)

Arcanum
10-11-2005, 16:44
Heh, funny.

How does he explain using a telescope and tracking satillites in orbit visually?

All Telescopes are sabotaged by the government!


He states: In the air and at ground-level, the highest speed is 1.190km/hr .
Which is Mach 1... every time you hear a sonic boom from a plane this moron is disproved.

Uhh, oh... wait... there must be a plausible reason for that. Ahh! Yes! The sonic booms are faked! There is only Mach 1! Nothing above exists, they just make us believe they exist!

Hah. Now that's informative...

~D

Mikeus Caesar
10-11-2005, 16:46
If there's nothing above the the speed of sound, then how come i can see stuff. Light of course. That's much faster than sound. His theory is more crap than what comes out of the end of cows.

Reverend Joe
10-11-2005, 18:10
https://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7029/laweek20kf.jpg

Viking
10-11-2005, 18:26
We all knew this already...the fact that the Moon is a big cheese. Despite that, the lunar astronauts brought back stone, wich is a clear evidence that they never were there!

The Stranger
10-11-2005, 18:35
yeah thats what i've been saying for years...not me but the rest belongs in this nuthouse damn

Sardo
10-11-2005, 18:52
I can't believe I'm seeing this on this site. That is one of the saddest individuals I have ever seen in this town, and I haven't even had to listen to his theories yet. I saw him for the first time two or three years ago, at a public debate between Belgian politicians. At the end of such a debate, people in the audience get to ask questions, and he asked wether any of the politicians would be willing to bet that man had ever walked the moon.
Yesterday, I went to another one of those debates, and good ol' spaceman was present once more. Only this time, questions were to be asked by text message, so I guess he had to walk away disappointed.
Anyway, what I mean to say is, after all those years of scouring debates and classrooms (as a friend of mine can attest) and probably being laughed at a lot, shouldn't it be clear to him that maybe, just maybe, he ought to move on to something else? It seems pretty obvious that he's not going to get anywhere with this, if you ask me. :tired:

The Stranger
10-11-2005, 18:58
he's the reason why dutch people say belgians are Stupid :P ~D just a joke m8

Beirut
10-11-2005, 19:12
he's the reason why dutch people say belgians are Stupid :P ~D just a joke m8

:inquisitive: Sniff-sniff... "Do I smell international nastiness?"

Sardo
10-11-2005, 19:42
Nah, you probably smell Dutchiness. ~;)

International nastiness between our two countries are sort of a tradition.

Of course, we're right in our nastiness and they're wrong, but that's a whole other story.

Sjakihata
10-11-2005, 19:50
Sniff-sniff... "Do I smell international nastiness?"

Only thing smelling 'round here are my armpits

Arcanum
10-11-2005, 19:55
Only thing smelling 'round here are my armpits

That doesn't really turn me on... :undecided:

Mikeus Caesar
10-11-2005, 23:11
We all knew this already...the fact that the Moon is a big cheese. Despite that, the lunar astronauts brought back stone, wich is a clear evidence that they never were there!

Of course the moon is made of cheese. Haven't you watched 'Wallace and Gromit: A Grand Day Out'? Conclusive proof that the moon is made of Wensleydale Cheese and inhabited by sentient ovens.

Monk
10-11-2005, 23:19
I will give all my money (and even my life) to the first person who knows a scientific publication, f.i. in PHYSICAL REVIEW, that contradicts the current 28.800km/hr-limit.

Someone make a dummy email account and send this fool his proof. Natural selection must be enforced.

Kekvit Irae
10-12-2005, 00:42
Hurray for backroom material! :tongueg:

EDIT: OMG! 1000 posts!

Azi Tohak
10-12-2005, 05:45
I saw foton. Moving on...

Azi

doc_bean
10-12-2005, 09:26
Someone make a dummy email account and send this fool his proof. Natural selection must be enforced.

He's been saying this for over ten years, the things he claims are hard to disprove, since he won't accept certain other 'known facts', several engineers, professors and helpful individuals have tried to convince him, but he won't bulge.
There's even a response from someone at NASA on his site.

Sigurd
10-12-2005, 10:16
From his site... written by one called Walter.


Q. - What about supersonic flight ? Not only fighter jets, but even= Concordes fly faster than sound nowadays; and they're accessible to everybody who'll pay....
A. - A plane can never fly faster than 340 m/s or 1200 km/h at sea level. (All of you AngloSaxons, please convert these figures to the= appropriate units..). You'll find out when asking an air company about flight times Europe - U.S. The air at the Earth surface rotates along with the= ground (that's one full tour in 24 hrs). But higher air layers move slower, and eventually the top layers hang perfectly still. This means there's a constant "draft" high above the ground; an aeroplane can take advan- tage from this by climbing high enough. Then, it still flies no faster than the speed of sound, relative to the air surrounding it. But to an observer at sea level, it does seem to break the barrier.... Note that this effect will only work in one direction - and that's why a transatlantic flight can take substantially more time in one= direction than the other.

Some people have contacted air companies (here in Belgium, that's Sabena : 02/723.23.23). A Concorde of British Airways flies from London (Heathrow) to New York (JFK Airport) in 3h50, and back in 3h40, twice a day. Unfortunately, the price is 2,642 =9C for single flight and 4,367 =9C for= retour. This means 1550 km/h - but Mark Peeters didn't find these figures= convincing. As you notice, some of us take this real seriously indeed !
Link... (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/wb1.html)
[edit]: Damn, I forgot my important point: :dizzy2:

Beirut
10-12-2005, 11:48
Hmm, received a complaint about this thread. To be honest, don't really see why though. Better play it safe...

:bobby2: Be nice or else!

My job's done, back to my cereal.

Arcanum
10-12-2005, 12:44
Now who could have complained about this thread... :rolleyes:

And NO, i'm not talking about myself.

Ice
10-12-2005, 20:07
This guy needs "physics for dummies"

A.Saturnus
10-12-2005, 23:00
Hey doc_bean, you´re in Leuven?

Monk
10-12-2005, 23:27
He's been saying this for over ten years, the things he claims are hard to disprove, since he won't accept certain other 'known facts', several engineers, professors and helpful individuals have tried to convince him, but he won't bulge.
There's even a response from someone at NASA on his site.

I know, i'm just saying sometimes Natural selection needs a helping hand (as in this case)... *hides axe* but it wont be me who does it... no not me.

(by the way i am joking about killing him ~D )

Mouzafphaerre
10-13-2005, 03:03
Now who could have complained about this thread... :rolleyes:

And NO, i'm not talking about myself.
.
I did; not about the thread but a rubbish post, totally unrelated to the subject, exploiting/attempting to hijack the thread to promote someone's willingness to spread hatred towards something. :bow:

The thread itself is fun reading. ~:)
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doc_bean
10-13-2005, 12:07
Hey doc_bean, you´re in Leuven?

Jup, for the sixth year in a row :book:

Are you here on an erasmus program or something ? IIRC you are German, aren't you ?

The Stranger
10-13-2005, 13:25
I know, i'm just saying sometimes Natural selection needs a helping hand (as in this case)... *hides axe* but it wont be me who does it... no not me.

(by the way i am joking about killing him ~D )

~:eek: i dont snitch but someone made a deaththreat...i dont name any names MONK ~:handball:

Arcanum
10-13-2005, 20:24
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I did; not about the thread but a rubbish post, totally unrelated to the subject, exploiting/attempting to hijack the thread to promote someone's willingness to spread hatred towards something. :bow:

The thread itself is fun reading. ~:)
.


Aww, I already expected this highly educated physician to speak up in the .org forums. It's really a shame...yes, you should be ashamed not to be that unbelievable physician I waited for!

*points finger at Mouzafphaerre*
Hey.No.Stop it.Stop it. Ok? O K?
*begins to crawl on the ground laughing, remembering a Family Guy episode*

A.Saturnus
10-13-2005, 22:15
Jup, for the sixth year in a row :book:

Are you here on an erasmus program or something ? IIRC you are German, aren't you ?

Hmm, that means that we´re living in the same city for almost 5 years now.
I´m a regular student.
Do you go to the RockCafe sometimes?

Mouzafphaerre
10-13-2005, 22:35
Aww, I already expected this highly educated physician to speak up in the .org forums. It's really a shame...yes, you should be ashamed not to be that unbelievable physician I waited for!

*points finger at Mouzafphaerre*
Hey.No.Stop it.Stop it. Ok? O K?
*begins to crawl on the ground laughing, remembering a Family Guy episode*
.
What is this?
.

Arcanum
10-14-2005, 13:23
You don't know 'Family Guy'? It's about the funniest series I ever watched. It's some kind of a Simpsons/Futurama/South Park predecessor...really good.

The Stranger
10-14-2005, 19:40
i dont know either

Moros
10-14-2005, 21:57
He's been saying this for over ten years, the things he claims are hard to disprove, since he won't accept certain other 'known facts', several engineers, professors and helpful individuals have tried to convince him, but he won't bulge.
There's even a response from someone at NASA on his site.
are you sure he isn't a dutch guy in Belgium:embarassed:

Mouzafphaerre
10-15-2005, 01:47
You don't know 'Family Guy'? It's about the funniest series I ever watched. It's some kind of a Simpsons/Futurama/South Park predecessor...really good.
.
Nope, sorry. I'm not a good TV watcher I guess...
.

AntiochusIII
10-15-2005, 03:32
You don't know 'Family Guy'? It's about the funniest series I ever watched. It's some kind of a Simpsons/Futurama/South Park predecessor...really good.It's not a predecessor of those things, but rather a successor, at least to the Simpsons and South Park. Futurama is more like a peer, though less fun.

But yes, I remembered that episode. *laughs*

By the way, that guy isn't at fault, but the Dutch (or Belgium?) society that still let nutjobs like him get airtime in their precious channels.

The Stranger
10-15-2005, 12:22
are you sure he isn't a dutch guy in Belgium:embarassed:

nope, no way...only belgians can come up with something like this ~;)

Arcanum
10-15-2005, 14:46
It's not a predecessor of those things, but rather a successor, at least to the Simpsons and South Park. Futurama is more like a peer, though less fun.

But yes, I remembered that episode. *laughs*

By the way, that guy isn't at fault, but the Dutch (or Belgium?) society that still let nutjobs like him get airtime in their precious channels.


Yeah, I'm sorry. Should have checked the word in the dictionary first. Successor was what I meant.

doc_bean
10-15-2005, 16:00
Hmm, that means that we´re living in the same city for almost 5 years now.
I´m a regular student.
Do you go to the RockCafe sometimes?

I went there once, the DJ got threatened because he played a crappy song, my friend recognized someone from earlier that day, who had apparently beat up some other guy and was advised by his girlfriend to drink some tea to calm down, and there was a snowball fight with the bar across the square, good times, good times ~:cheers:

A.Saturnus
10-16-2005, 15:53
I went there once, the DJ got threatened because he played a crappy song, my friend recognized someone from earlier that day, who had apparently beat up some other guy and was advised by his girlfriend to drink some tea to calm down, and there was a snowball fight with the bar across the square, good times, good times ~:cheers:

Hmm, you must have been there on a strange day. Have the usual clients study literature and there are some theologicans too. I´m there almost every saturday.

The Stranger
10-16-2005, 16:05
By the way, that guy isn't at fault, but the Dutch (or Belgium?) society that still let nutjobs like him get airtime in their precious channels.

only belgians would do that...in holland he would be in the trunk of a audi 04 ~;)

Moros
10-16-2005, 17:22
only belgians would do that...in holland he would be in the trunk of a audi 04 ~;)
So what are you still doing here then?~:confused:
~;)

The Stranger
10-16-2005, 19:59
ehhehehe i'm the one that puts them there ~;)

doc_bean
10-17-2005, 12:04
Hmm, you must have been there on a strange day. Have the usual clients study literature and there are some theologicans too. I´m there almost every saturday.

It was the first saturday of the winter break 2 years ago iirc.

What do you study BTW ?