View Full Version : Whats worse Dip or Cigarets
Strike For The South
10-15-2005, 05:27
Well? I think Cigs becuase allot of problems can come from them and with dip as long as youre not doing half a can a day there really isnt any problems (except your lower lip being prone to cancer and cuts.)
Kekvit Irae
10-15-2005, 05:43
From the military standpoint, dip doesnt require you to light up and give away your position to the enemy, so I choose cigs.
Divinus Arma
10-15-2005, 06:04
From a military standpoint, they are both disgusting.
Yay. Lets smoke because big tobacco pourts billions into sleuth cool-factor campaigns in TV and Movies.
Yay. Lets dip and spit our nasty bat dropping mouth slime into a cup that gets left somewhere. Oh and then it spills.
Edit: Removed. That was a little over the top, I think. I just don't like it when people leave dip cups around. It's gross.
Strike For The South
10-15-2005, 07:32
I was talking in genral not just in the milatary
Divinus Arma
10-15-2005, 08:27
I know. I was sarcastically mimicking the assistant sheriff. I was trying to be funny. Obviously I am an idiot.
bmolsson
10-15-2005, 12:42
Why would anyone compare dip with cig ???
Duke Malcolm
10-15-2005, 13:27
You dip things (e.g. crisps, bread sticks, carrot sticks) in it, don't you?
I think dips are worse, because a bad dip smells worse that a bad cigarette. However, in health terms, fags are worse.
Perhaps it is chewing tobacco...
Byzantine Prince
10-15-2005, 15:06
How about cigarettes that are dipped?
Dip is worse, nobody has ever died from smoking too many cigarettes, dip on the other hand has claimed many lives.
Louis VI the Fat
10-15-2005, 17:18
Oh come on, enlighten the mother-continent. What is a dip? Or is it 'to dip'?
~:confused:
Even the British don't seem to know what it is.
AntiochusIII
10-15-2005, 17:18
Dip is worse, nobody has ever died from smoking too many cigarettes, dip on the other hand has claimed many lives.Lung cancer?
Not that I like any of them. In fact, I passionately hate them. In my opinion, I'd say to smokers in public: Go kill yourself, you smoking idiots, but don't put those chemicals in my lungs.
Strike For The South
10-15-2005, 17:53
Oh come on, enlighten the mother-continent. What is a dip? Or is it 'to dip'?
~:confused:
Even the British don't seem to know what it is.
sorry Chewing tabacco
sorry Chewing tabacco
Ah right.
That's illegal in the EU I think. Considered too addictive and harmless looking, so would entice children or something.
Except in Sweden... The BBC had a thing on it.
Devastatin Dave
10-15-2005, 19:06
Where is the "not having either" option?~D
Alexanderofmacedon
10-15-2005, 20:48
nobody has ever died from smoking too many cigarettes
Lung cancer. I think they're both disgusting to me. If smoking companies start educating people about risks. Then smoking would be someone's educated choice. Of course why would a cigerette give information that would lose them money? We're in a bit of a bind in my opinion. Same with dip.
EatYerGreens
10-15-2005, 20:57
Not that I like any of them. In fact, I passionately hate them. In my opinion, I'd say to smokers in public: Go kill yourself, you smoking idiots, but don't put those chemicals in my lungs.
But they'd only throw it back at you by asking if you drive a car.
Mmmmm, mmm, just smell those unburnt hydrocarbons and breathe those particulates in deeply. Not to mention the carbon monoxide.
Take a look at those masks cyclists wear when riding in big cities and tell me the muck stuck on the outside is coming from smokers cowering in doorways and not from all the cars and trucks?
Don't make me breathe that, sell your car and I'll co-operate and give up the tabs.
Alexanderofmacedon
10-15-2005, 21:04
That's America and Europe. Everywhere else they walk, ride bike or take public transportation. It's rediculous here. I try to walk or ride my bike instead.
Kaiser of Arabia
10-15-2005, 22:28
Cigs, just cause menthol sucks.
Non menthols or cigars are nice to be around though. I don't smoke though.
Reverend Joe
10-15-2005, 23:50
Dip is actually worse. Ciggarettes take years to kill you. Dip, on the other hand, can kill you extremely quickly if you are not careful. For example, if you develop a sore, and keep dipping every day, you can die within a few weeks. It's lethal.
Dip, by the way, is highly potent (but apparently tasty) tobacco that you stuff into your lower lip. You don't even chew it; it just sits there, soaking into your lip. It's disgusting.
Tobacco use that is limited to the mouth is very dangerous. Even though it does not affect the lungs, it still affects the mouth, throat, tongue, and pallate, to an even higher degree than normal. Just as an example, I smoke cigars. For a few weeks a while back, I started breaking routine and smoking four or five a week. pretty soon (within a week or two) I was having occasional small, burning sensations along my upper pallate and the middle of my tongue, where I usually draw up my saliva to spit out (it's a BAD idea to swallow that stuff.) As a result, I made myself stop for about three weeks until they went away. Even now, I do not smoke more than twice a week. It is a very relaxing habit, but it is quite life-threatening.
Not that I like any of them. In fact, I passionately hate them. In my opinion, I'd say to smokers in public: Go kill yourself, you smoking idiots, but don't put those chemicals in my lungs.
:stare: Go bugger yourself.
Alexanderofmacedon
10-15-2005, 23:58
I think he's exagerating a bit. :bow:
Reverend Joe
10-16-2005, 00:01
I think he's exagerating a bit. :bow:
Maybe... I'm just sensetive about my habit. Too many years of anti-tobacco nuts; I can't tell the jokers apart anymore.
Devastatin Dave
10-16-2005, 00:48
Maybe... I'm just sensetive about my habit. Too many years of anti-tobacco nuts; I can't tell the jokers apart anymore.
Amen... I struggle with my habit but sometimes I think I smoke just to piss off non smoking complainers!!!~:cool:
Adrian II
10-16-2005, 00:52
Amen... I struggle with my habit but sometimes I think I smoke just to piss off non smoking complainers!!!~:cool:Dip 'em if you got 'em, that's what I say. :smoking:
AntiochusIII
10-16-2005, 00:54
I think he's exagerating a bit. :bow:Correct. I'm not really screaming my head off at smokers like I pretend here. When I see people smoke where they shouldn't be (i.e. schools...how stupid could they be?) I just look passingly at them while thinking: "白癡" ~D
Still, if your hobby is making you sensitive to criticism may be you want to slow down a bit.
Byzantine Prince
10-16-2005, 00:59
Amen... I struggle with my habit but sometimes I think I smoke just to piss off non smoking complainers!!!~:cool:
LOL, same here. Whenever I see people that are against smoking I blow it right in their big stupid faces. It's probably the only reason I started smoking to being with. It's too much fun.
master of the puppets
10-16-2005, 01:07
smoking people and the dippers are jerks.
thats why whenever my freinds lite up around me i give them a good hearty punch in the arm.
Alexanderofmacedon
10-16-2005, 01:12
That a way!~D
Seamus Fermanagh
10-16-2005, 04:07
Tobacco use is your own choice.
I would be VERY hard-pressed to believe that someone could be unaware of the potential health-risks associated with tobacco use. Since I think, therefore, that it is an informed decision, it really isn't my business.
Smokers and other tobacco users are also aware of: the cost of their materials, the higher taxes they pay for them, the higher insurance costs they pay, and the inconveniences they must suffer in an increasingly regulated public sphere.
Other people cook sinus medicine into powerful intravenous drugs, despite all the even higher risks of that behavior.
I confess I don't understand it, but ultimately it is their choice.
Ironside
10-16-2005, 09:21
Dip is actually worse. Ciggarettes take years to kill you. Dip, on the other hand, can kill you extremely quickly if you are not careful. For example, if you develop a sore, and keep dipping every day, you can die within a few weeks. It's lethal.
Dip, by the way, is highly potent (but apparently tasty) tobacco that you stuff into your lower lip. You don't even chew it; it just sits there, soaking into your lip. It's disgusting.
Considering what you discibe I'm guessing dip equals snus here in Sweden (new thing in the US BTW?).
Never heard about that quick killing when it comes to snus and considering what country I live in, I would have heard it several times over if it's a common phenomena. Gives you lip cancer though.
Oh, and it's the upper lip ~D
And yep it's really discusting, but atleast it doesn't hurt me passivly as smoking does, so I vote that cigarets is worse (for me that is).
Big King Sanctaphrax
10-16-2005, 18:32
LOL, same here. Whenever I see people that are against smoking I blow it right in their big stupid faces. It's probably the only reason I started smoking to being with. It's too much fun.
Oh god, yes. How offensive that people might not want to have to breathe in your carcinogenic fumes. ~:rolleyes:
Reverend Joe
10-16-2005, 19:02
Chew certainly isn't new over here by any means. It's just not as mainstream as smoking. Which is a shame--i'd rather that idiots got lip cancer, instead of idiots giving me lung cancer.
Actually, dippers are probably more dangerous to be around- if their spit lands on you, it will burn a cancerous hole right through your skin. Also, they spit. I just want to reinerate that. They spit. They spit brown fluid. And sometimes, they do it so much that their skin bleeds when they put the stuff in at first- so they spit blood. And that is real. I have seen it. I almost threw up the first time I saw someone do that.
Actually, dippers are probably more dangerous to be around- if their spit lands on you, it will burn a cancerous hole right through your skin. Also, they spit. I just want to reinerate that. They spit. They spit brown fluid. And sometimes, they do it so much that their skin bleeds when they put the stuff in at first- so they spit blood. And that is real. I have seen it. I almost threw up the first time I saw someone do that.
Ugh. At least smokers keep the horrible looking bits deep inside.
Ja'chyra
10-16-2005, 20:15
LOL, same here. Whenever I see people that are against smoking I blow it right in their big stupid faces. It's probably the only reason I started smoking to being with. It's too much fun.
Great fun, especially when the recipient repays the favour with his fist, jolly good show what, fun for all the family.
Back on subject, even though someone once said that chewing tobacoo made him a sexual Tyranosaur (*sp) I think I'll pass on both. Even worse than the hangover that comes with drinking is waking up smelling like you've been standing in a forest fire because others in the pub were smoking, really attractive.
Samurai Waki
10-16-2005, 23:31
...Cigarettes are worse...at least you can't die from being around a chewer...just disgusted.
P.S. I quit Chewing about a year ago.
Alexanderofmacedon
10-17-2005, 00:11
If someone spits chew on me and causes harm, I have fairly decent grounds to take it to court. The same cannot be said for smokers.
Take it to court. Ha!
I might take a baseball bat to their head. (Dip is common in baseball)
Ironside
10-17-2005, 08:43
Chew certainly isn't new over here by any means. It's just not as mainstream as smoking. Which is a shame--i'd rather that idiots got lip cancer, instead of idiots giving me lung cancer.
Hmm, it seems that it's simular to snus, but not the same. Why I asked about the age is because they have been trying to export snus to other countries in recent years.
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