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ShadesWolf
10-23-2005, 16:52
The only terrorist to survive the spectacular SAS storming of the Iranian Embassy in London 25 years ago is set to be freed from prison and granted political asylum in Britain for the rest of his life.
The home office is planning to provide Fowzi Badavi Nejad with a new identity on his release for fears of revenge attacks
Erh? Is it Fowzi Badavi Nejad you're talking about?
Edit: If so, he is an Iranian Arab, he served 25 years in a British prison for the Iranian embassy siege.
I think the attackers wanted autonomy for Khuzestan. That province has always been a troublespot, in fact some of you may remember a few bombs going off in Ahvaz some weeks ago. He will most likely be imprisoned or killed if he is sent to Iran.
ShadesWolf
10-23-2005, 17:17
That is the reason the Uk cannot send him back to Iran, because Iran has the death pen
That is the reason the Uk cannot send him back to Iran, because Iran has the death pen And considering how they murder loud-mouthed students and teenage girls, an Ahvazi rebel would not fare well.
Fair enough. He served his time and now we can't send him back because he'll be killed, so he's given asylum. The system works.
Papewaio
10-23-2005, 22:15
And it might be a mini-pr coup as it shows we are fairer...
Marcellus
10-24-2005, 02:01
I completely agree with the decision to grant him asylum - he has served his time and should be protected from torture and death like other asylum seekers.
Crazed Rabbit
10-24-2005, 04:38
So, is this a man who engaged in terrorism against Britain?
If so, why in the world is the government going to protect him?!
Crazed Rabbit
Papewaio
10-24-2005, 04:41
Its called justice.
Tribesman
10-24-2005, 08:12
So, is this a man who engaged in terrorism against Britain?
Tricky one that , the embassy is Iranian territory .
If so, why in the world is the government going to protect him?!
Because civilised nations don't deport people to countries where they may be tortured or killed , something to do with human rights .
So, is this a man who engaged in terrorism against Britain?
Tricky one that , the embassy is Iranian territory .
If so, why in the world is the government going to protect him?!
Because civilised nations don't deport people to countries where they may be tortured or killed , something to do with human rights .
But he hates our freedoom !
*waves Embassy siege flag* /Simpsons
Duke of Gloucester
10-24-2005, 08:53
But he hates our freedoom !
Even if this is true, we show ourselves to be superior by acting this way. Remember we are talking about human rights, not rights for human beings we think deserve them.
But he hates our freedoom !
*waves Embassy siege flag* /Simpsons
He probably quite likes it now. Morals can be surprisingly flexible when cheesegraters are potentially involved.
Templar Knight
10-24-2005, 10:47
He survived an SAS assault, I doubt he will do it again.
Even if this is true, we show ourselves to be superior by acting this way. Remember we are talking about human rights, not rights for human beings we think deserve them.
He probably quite likes it now. Morals can be surprisingly flexible when cheesegraters are potentially involved.
Was being sarcastic lads ~;)
Ja'chyra
10-24-2005, 11:32
My first thought was deport him and let him take his chances, but, he's served his time so clean slate and all that, then again, is he even a British citizen, but, we would be seen as sending him to prison and then sending him to his death and strictly speaking his attack was against Iran not us.
Tough one, not sure at all, probably deport him but not to Iran.
Geoffrey S
10-24-2005, 18:41
He's had his legally given punishment; what value does the justice system have if that is made irrelevant?
Marcellus
10-25-2005, 00:27
Tough one, not sure at all, probably deport him but not to Iran.
Where would you deport him to? I doubt many countries would want to take him.
Tribesman
10-25-2005, 00:41
Where would you deport him to? I doubt many countries would want to take him.
How about America , he was fighting against the evil Ayatollahs after all , he should be most welcome .
Perhaps he can have a job like Chalabi , oh but he was working for the evil ayatollahs wasn't he ~:doh:
If not then send him over here , we have a great program for intergrating ex-terrorists into society , its called taking up politics .~;)
Leet Eriksson
10-25-2005, 01:26
Dariush you live in iran? whats your take on Ahwazi arabs in the region?
they really want autonomy?
RabidGibbon
10-25-2005, 02:47
Posted by BDC
Fair enough. He served his time and now we can't send him back because he'll be killed, so he's given asylum. The system works.
I have to say I think its hard to argue with BDC's point of view. The guy commited a crime, served the time, it was all in rhyme.
what more do you want?
Seriously, sending him back to Iran sounds like a death sentance for him whether he deserves it or not, after being punished for the crime he commited in the country he commited it in. I say give him asylum.
Dariush you live in iran? whats your take on Ahwazi arabs in the region?
they really want autonomy? Some do, I’m sure. And who can blame them? The vile regime in Tehran is certainly not fond of them.
I think the overwhelming majority, if not all, of the Khuzestan Arabs are Shia, but that doesn’t stop the regime from discriminating and marginalizing them. I’ve never been in Ahwaz, but I have heard that the living conditions are poor. Some neighbourhoods have open sewers, no power, no water, and nothing is being done about it. On top of that, people are being displaced from the countryside, making way for ‘modernization’, just like everywhere else in Iran.
But the embassy attackers were organized by Iraq, and Iraq wanted the Khuzestan oil, hence Saddams claim to Arabistan.
(Oh, and I only live in Iran occasionally~;) )
Ja'chyra
10-25-2005, 09:08
I have to say I think its hard to argue with BDC's point of view. The guy commited a crime, served the time, it was all in rhyme.
what more do you want?
Seriously, sending him back to Iran sounds like a death sentance for him whether he deserves it or not, after being punished for the crime he commited in the country he commited it in. I say give him asylum.
That'd be fair enough if he is a British citizen, but as far as I can tell he isn't, so strictly speaking the British taxpayer has no obligation to fund his new life.
As for where to send him that'd be a matter for discussion for any country willing to shelter him, if no-one is it all comes down to whether we feel his life is worth the money we would have to spend on him, harsh but there it is.
Leet Eriksson
10-25-2005, 19:25
Some do, I’m sure. And who can blame them? The vile regime in Tehran is certainly not fond of them.
I think the overwhelming majority, if not all, of the Khuzestan Arabs are Shia, but that doesn’t stop the regime from discriminating and marginalizing them. I’ve never been in Ahwaz, but I have heard that the living conditions are poor. Some neighbourhoods have open sewers, no power, no water, and nothing is being done about it. On top of that, people are being displaced from the countryside, making way for ‘modernization’, just like everywhere else in Iran.
But the embassy attackers were organized by Iraq, and Iraq wanted the Khuzestan oil, hence Saddams claim to Arabistan.
(Oh, and I only live in Iran occasionally~;) )
Interesting. :bow:
I kinda went to ahwaz once, its not so bad, but i don't get their problem when i say اهواز as compared to their version of احواز (can't explain well in english due to the lack of ح) ~;p
Interesting. :bow:
I kinda went to ahwaz once, its not so bad, but i don't get their problem when i say اهواز as compared to their version of احواز (can't explain well in english due to the lack of ح) ~;p We’ll compromise: al-Ahvâz ~D
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