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Byzantine Prince
10-24-2005, 14:53
CNN- Link (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/10/23/rice.straw.reut/index.html)
LOL, Americans really don't give a ..... do they?
English assassin
10-24-2005, 15:02
Straw called American football "rugby with commercials"
Well I can easily see how he was a shoo-in for head of our diplomatic service...
To be fair to Alabama I think I had forgotten he was our foreign secretary (in fact my immediate reaction was "surely its Robin Cook" who not only resigned years ago but is now dead) so I don't see why they are supposed to have known.
Please don't come back Jack
Please don't come back Jack
Oh, no you don't. He's out of here as soon as possible. I'll never forgive him for the 2 days I had to spend in Croydon getting my visa renewed in '99. Back across the pond with you, good sir! ~D
Duke Malcolm
10-24-2005, 16:35
They also mangled his title, appointing him secretary of state to the commonwealth of the United Kingdom.
This is one of his titles, though. isn't it? Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs...
Marcellus
10-25-2005, 00:25
I can name him! Do I win? ~D
Straw called American football "rugby with commercials"
Funny, probably accurate, but not so diplomatic...
ShadesPanther
10-25-2005, 00:48
Straw called American football "rugby with commercials"
He forgot padding
~D
TheSilverKnight
10-25-2005, 02:43
He forgot padding
~D
and armour ~D
This is one of his titles, though. isn't it? Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs...
No, not possible. That would mean CNN is wrong- can't happen. ~D
Tribesman
10-25-2005, 08:17
Put your Rugby boys in with our Football boys, and they'll see why pads are necesarry right-quick.
Get real , Football is for pussys and advertising .
Divinus Arma
10-25-2005, 08:37
I just love the Alabamian ignorance.
I just hope most people understand that these displaced idiots are not representative of the American public.
I just love the Alabamian ignorance.
I just hope most people understand that these displaced idiots are not representative of the American public.
I'm sure you could find Brits who don't know who he is either. ~;)
InsaneApache
10-25-2005, 09:09
who is he? ~:)
......Liddies' dad?
There have been rugby players who have switched to american football, and visa versa. I believe everyone of them has said there is more violence in one game of rugby than in a whole season of american football.
American football is just fat blokes waddling in body armour for 30 seconds between advert breaks.
Adrian II
10-25-2005, 11:03
Football isn't about a bunch of barely-organized louts running about with a ball trying to hurt eachother.No, that would be baseball. ~:cool:
Ja'chyra
10-25-2005, 11:11
Those Rugby players clearly misunderstand the purpose of Football then. Football isn't about a bunch of barely-organized louts running about with a ball trying to hurt eachother. Football is about carefully coordinated offensives, and similarly complex defensive manouvres. It is about the entire team effort--and not just on the field, either. In Professional Football (and College, IIRC), you have defensive coordinators, offensive coordinators, the coach (obviously) and all kinds of other support. It's a war, and the players are but one aspect of it. You Europeans simply fail to grasp the beauty of the sport.
Keep telling yourself that and someday it might come true.
American football is rugby for wimps.
Ja'chyra
10-25-2005, 12:05
We don't need the approval of you brits to enjoy our (vastly superior) sports, anyhow
I would agree if you weren't being so defensive.
Someone who is pre-disposed to hate all things american could not possibly appreciate the subtleties of Football that are hidden behind it's seemingly brutish appearance
That implies a level of caring that I don't have, are you saying that rugby doesn't have those same complexities?
Rubbish.
We don't need the approval of you brits to enjoy our (vastly superior) sports, anyhow. Someone who is pre-disposed to hate all things american could not possibly appreciate the subtleties of Football that are hidden behind it's seemingly brutish appearance.
Meh, I'm an American and I agree. Football is Rugby for wimps. To be fair though, Cricket is Baseball for the sociopathic.
InsaneApache
10-25-2005, 12:16
and it's NOT football if you pick the damn thing up, using your HANDS and run about with it. It IS football when you kick it with your FEET, and get penalised for using aforementioned HANDS, hence the name. The clue is there if you look close enough. ~D
Put your Rugby boys in with our Football boys, and they'll see why pads are necesarry right-quick.
Get real , Football is for pussys and advertising .
LOL - ever see how many of those people are carried off of the field with torn ligments and broken bones?
The only part you got right is about the advertising. The rest of your comment and many of the other comments concerning football is typical BS. Edit: to complete a sentence that was only half done.
I've never played rugby but football is all about violence. Pads only increase the level of violence by allowing the tackler to smash into someone running at full speed. The man being tackled is also wearing pads but the impact is still incredibly jarring. The short duration of the plays does lead to Sumo type lineman but if you have ever seen a receiver go up for a catch over the middle knowing full well a 250 lb linebacker moving as fast as a sprinter was about to crash into his exposed ribs, you wouldn't call him a wimp.
I would say Rugby is the better sport because you can play it at the club level and still go to work on Monday. Few Americans play TACKLE football outside of School or the Pro's unless they're still in there twenties and don't know any better.
Tribesman
10-25-2005, 14:44
So says the Euro who's probably never played football in his life.
Notice the key word "probably" , care to guess how many other US sports I have "probably" never played ? (though most are not really American in origin )~;) Or how many games I have "probably" not been to see in the States ?
and it's NOT football if you pick the damn thing up, using your HANDS and run about with it.
No Apache , that is soccer , and that really is for pussies , try Gaelic , Aussie or Compromise for a bit of fun .
Duke Malcolm
10-25-2005, 17:30
LOL - ever see how many of those people are carried off of the field with torn ligments and broken bones?
Rugby players are taken off with broken collar bones, ribs, and open lower leg fractures (where the bone sticks out), and that's just in Dundee between secondary school.
No Apache , that is soccer , and that really is for pussies , try Gaelic , Aussie or Compromise for a bit of fun .
I think he is just making the point that calling it football is wrong, because they also use hands, unlike proper football in which it is illegal to use one's hands
Rugby players are taken off with broken collar bones, ribs, and open lower leg fractures (where the bone sticks out), and that's just in Dundee between secondary school.
I believe that is called a compound fracture here in the states and yes people are taken off the field in American Football for the same type of injuries - minus the collar bone because of the shoulder pads - but they tried it off for cracked neck bones - all in all I rather break my collar bone - verse break in a neck vertebrae.
And all this happens in Junior High School - which would be your secondary equilvent to your secondary schools also.
Plus there are others out there every-year with even worse injuries all in the name of a contact sport.
People trying to say the either game (rugby or American football) is for pussies either attempting to get your goat - or just are plain stupid.
BTW soccer is not a pussy sport either - lots of hard running and many leg injuries happen in that sport also - to include compound fractures of the legs because of contact. Again calling any sport that involves physical endurance and exertion is for pussies well shows a lack of character in that individual.
The_Doctor
10-25-2005, 19:17
What about the Eton wall game.
What the hell is that about?
Tribesman
10-25-2005, 19:49
I think he is just making the point that calling it football is wrong, because they also use hands, unlike proper football in which it is illegal to use one's hands
But wouldn't "Proper" football be "Real" football , that game where the whole town is the pitch , they use their hands in that .
Any way American football isn't American , it is really an ancient Irish traditional game (or adaption thereof) , and I can prove it ~;)
believe that is called a compound fracture here in the states
Open fracture over here .
BTW soccer is not a pussy sport either - lots of hard running and many leg injuries happen in that sport also - to include compound fractures of the legs because of contact. Again calling any sport that involves physical endurance and exertion is for pussies well shows a lack of character in that individual.
Yeah I'm just on a wind up. I actually quite enjoy watching american football - just wish they would get on with it sometimes.
As for soccer - I have sprained both ankles 3 times playing as well as having fist fights with total strangers and best friends ~:eek: I don't play anymore!
Yes, American football bores me with its constant stopping and starting (and ad breaks). Yet I'll enjoy the long days of a test match. Weird.
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