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Gawain of Orkeny
11-08-2005, 19:36
The honorable Senate Democrats in the United States are doing an honorable investigation to find out exactly what happened to cause me to lose my country, and until these honorable Senate Democrats in the United States get every one of their questions answered about the manipulation and the distortion of the intelligence -- and of course all of the lies about my having weapons of mass destruction; all this before my country was invaded -- I can't get a fair trial, until all these questions are answered by the Senate Democrats. And after these Senate Democrats get the answers that we all know are out there, I, Saddam Hussein, would argue that I never had any weapons of mass destruction, and whatever bad intelligence was generated by a cowboy, fratboy president and his indicted staff, who have poisoned world opinion about me and my government, and as such, I can't get a fair trial anywhere -- and I want my country back. I'm going to make this trial about George W. Bush, and I'm going to be calling as witnesses people like Dick Durbin and Ted Kennedy. I'm going to call Chuck Schumer.


I, Saddam Hussein, say that the Senate Democrats are on the way to proving that President Bush has led a false war, permanently screwed up children all over the world as to how you solve problems. My country is Muslim. We are very different from western countries, and that scares stupid, evangelical cowboys like George Bush. Why, Prince Charles even had to go tell Bush, "You misunderstood Islam," the other day. I'd call Prince Charles as a witness! So what does this cowboy Bush do when his oil baron buddies can't have my oil for themselves? Well, they start a war on false pretenses because everybody knows that this war was about nothing but oil and that's why all the intelligence was trumped up, and that's why all of the lies were told and that's why everybody was told and agreed that I had weapons of mass destruction, is because the world wants my oil led by the cowboy Bush, and I thank God -- I thank Allah daily -- for the Senate Democrats, the Democrats of the United States Senate who are leading this courageous effort to prove what a liar and a disaster on the world stage George W. Bush has been. I can't get a fair trial, and until I get a fair trial -- which is not possible -- I demand my country back. All of this that has happened has been based on lies. The world can't sleep at night. If the world can do this to me, a man with nothing but benevolence and love in his heart for his people, what will they do next? Who will they do it to next? The cowboy Bush -- Cheney, Libby, Rove -- they must be stopped, and it's the Senate Democrats in that great institution, the United States Senate, who are leading the way.

What I'm saying is being said by elected members of the United States Senate. As I listen to the elected senators, Democrats of the United States Senate, as they pursue this honorable investigation of George W. Bush, I say to myself, "This is what I said to the UN. This is what I said to the weapons inspectors." This is what I said to the world when I was confronted with what everybody now knows (thanks to the Senate Democrats) are bogus, fake and trumped-up charges.

Bush is a liar! He lied about the reasons for and the need to invade my country, and I want it back. He hires liars. It is George Bush who should be impeached and convicted in his own country and then tried at The Hague in my place. Not me. I had nothing to do with 9/11. Yet I'm the one paying the price. You may not like me; I am Saddam Hussein. You may not agree with the ways of Muslim leaders in the Middle East, but does that give you the right to invade my country? No! The United States Senate Democrats obviously agree with me. They are honorable people. The world should align behind the Democrats of the United States Senate who are trying to wrong one of the most terrible injustices in the history of the world. It is George W. Bush who must be brought to justice by the brave and honorable members of the Democratic Party in the United States Senate. Because leaders of the world and people of the world, I, Saddam Hussein, say to you that it is the senators, the Democrat senators in the United States Senate are all that stand between peace and bloodthirsty imperialism by the United States. May Allah bless the good and decent truth-tellers in the Senate who will not let George Bush continue his lies to his country and to the world! George Bush hides behind his faith, but he's a liar just like these Senate Democrats are saying.

I, Saddam Hussein, from the bottom of my sizable heart, thank the Democrat senators in the United States and all of the websites that support them, and all of the Hollywood Democrats who are asking the Senate Democrats to continue this investigation. I thank all of the American media, because I think the American media is one of the last bastions of honesty and trustworthiness second only to the Democrats of the United States Senate. So I want to thank the mainstream media of the United States. I want to further point out that if my trial is not postponed -- if I can't get a postponement and if I can't get a dismissal of the charges, and if I don't get my country back -- if there is a trial, I demand that I be brought to the US for trial, in a United States civilian court. I can't get a fair trial in Iraq because it's Bush cronies. I can only get a fair trial in the United States where liberal Democrats run the court system. They're the ones doing the great work, the work of Allah, in order to maintain the lies of Bush and the distortions of the war. I want my country back. The United States does not recognize, the US court system doesn't recognize the Geneva Conventions; they don't recognize the due-process rights of illegal combatants like me or those held at Guantanamo Bay. John McCain and the Democrats wanted them tried under our justice system, and if illegal combatants are to be afforded with such treatment -- if you're going to give real terrorists the opportunity to be tried in your court system -- I, Saddam Hussein, demand to be tried in your court system because I am covered under the Geneva Conventions, and I should receive better treatment. And, by the way, I wish to point out -- and I know many people in the American ACLU will agree with me on this -- I, Saddam Hussein, was not Mirandized by the soldiers who captured me. I was denied a speedy trial as compelled by the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution. The charges ought to be dismissed. They did nothing but point weapons to me in that foxhole. They didn't tell me my rights! They didn't tell me I had to shut up; they didn't tell me anything I said could be used against me. I was lied to not only by Bush but the by the whole US military, by Rumsfeld. I was lied to by Condoleezza Rice. I can't even count on Colin Powell anymore because he was part of the original cowboy cabal that kicked me out of my country.

If I get my trial in the United States of America as I so rightly deserve, I, Saddam Hussein, would like to call Dick Durbin as a witness because he would be able to testify that US troops are like Nazi storm troopers. He would be able to testify that US troops are no different than the murdering thugs of Pol Pot and the gulags of Stalin. I would next call Senator Kennedy who would be able to testify that US troops are no better than Hussein's thugs -- my thugs. I would call Michael Isikoff of Newsweek magazine. He would be able to testify how US troops mistreat prisoners by flushing their Korans down the toilet at G'itmo. I would do my best to get rid of Rush Limbaugh for turning Club G'itmo into Club G'itmo. It's not a joke what's happening there, and it's not a joke what's happening to me. I would also call Ambassador Joe Wilson, of course. He would be my star witness, because Joe Wilson would testify that I was not a bad guy; I was not somebody that posed a danger. I never once sought uranium from anywhere, because I didn't have any weapons of mass destruction, and Joe Wilson knows it and his wife, Valerie Plame, knows it. And so, my friends, I, Saddam Hussein, throw in with the Democrats in the United States Senate. They are my allies, and until they finish their great and glorious work for Allah in uncovering the truth about the lies and the distortions of the cowboy Bush, I demand these trials of me be postponed and the charges dismissed -- and I get my country back.





LINK (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110705/content/rush_on_a_roll.guest.html)

Meneldil
11-08-2005, 19:42
Well, although this letter is rather silly, I agree with some of the things he wrote.

The way he refers to democrats is quite funny btw.

Ser Clegane
11-08-2005, 19:42
Wow - the good old "if you do not support us, you support Saddam and/or terrorists". ~;)

Hurin_Rules
11-08-2005, 20:04
Would Saddam use a phrase such as 'screwed up'?

This is a fake document, no?

Gawain of Orkeny
11-08-2005, 20:16
Now you see why I post whole articles instead of just links.

yesdachi
11-08-2005, 20:19
Rush is such a big windbag sometimes, but I still listen to him.~D


Side note: He had a great bit on the other day where he played quotes from many the people (senators and congressmen mostly) who endorsed the Iraq war back in 2002? with the same “evidence” the president had and then he played quotes of the same people trying to worm out of their quotes today. ~:joker:

Lemur
11-08-2005, 20:21
This is a fake document, no?
No, it's authentic Rush Limbaugh. Gawain's being "provocative" again. Guard your children closely, and cover your wallet.

Mongoose
11-08-2005, 20:26
Would Saddam use a phrase such as 'screwed up'?

This is a fake document, no?

I was about to post that my self~D Stuff like that really makes you wonder if an article is valid or not...

Wouldn't surprise me if Hussein said sometihng along those lines, but the wording was strange

Gawain of Orkeny
11-08-2005, 20:28
There is a link. Again thats why I post whole articles. This time I didnt and see what happens.

Mongoose
11-08-2005, 20:31
There is a link. Again thats why I post whole articles. This time I didnt and see what happens.

hmm. i think i see what you mean. So rush wrote that? That explains the wording...

Gawain of Orkeny
11-08-2005, 20:34
hmm. i think i see what you mean. So rush wrote that? That explains the wording...


Click on the damn link man. Not only did he write it but I edited it.

Adrian II
11-08-2005, 20:38
Click on the damn link man.Another of your racist sites? No thanks. :coffeenews:

Gawain of Orkeny
11-08-2005, 20:41
Now Rush Limbaugh is a rascist? ~:confused:

Hurin_Rules
11-08-2005, 20:45
Now Rush Limbaugh is a rascist? ~:confused:

You do remember the Donovan McNabb incident that forced him to retire from ESPN, right?

But I'm willing to cut Rush some slack--maybe he was just hopped up on those drugs he's addicted to that day.

Clearly, Rush is a very principled and respectable source.

Papewaio
11-08-2005, 20:54
And the Democrats are a race?

Aurelian
11-08-2005, 21:35
This thread should have a big "WARNING: WRITTEN BY RUSH LIMBAUGH" label.

Sounds like Rush is back on his meds.

Divinus Arma
11-08-2005, 22:41
You do remember the Donovan McNabb incident that forced him to retire from ESPN, right?



I call that bold and brazen, not racism.

Did he end p being wrong about McNabb? Of course. McNabb is one of the best QBs in the NFL. But before he became a sensation, Rush made an observation that could very well have been true since McNabb was the first black QB with any talent whatsoever. He thought it was media hype over race. Call Rush an inaccurate sports commentaor, but racist is stretching it.


I don't expect to change your mind. I am just making a counterpoint.

Hurin_Rules
11-08-2005, 22:46
I don't expect to change your mind. I am just making a counterpoint.

I actually didn't call him a racist-- I was just responding to Gawain's apparent confusion over why someone would make that allegation. I was pointing to the fact that many people had called him a racist because of that incident. I myself don't think his comments were all that racist.

Gawain of Orkeny
11-09-2005, 00:50
I was just responding to Gawain's apparent confusion over why someone would make that allegation.

I wasnt confused. The allegation is ludicrous. The point here is that if Saddam has any kind of lawyers at all they will certainlly use all of this. It may seem like humor now but it will be serious when the real Saddam uses it as a defense.

Hurin_Rules
11-09-2005, 00:58
I wasnt confused. The allegation is ludicrous. The point here is that if Saddam has any kind of lawyers at all they will certainlly use all of this. It may seem like humor now but it will be serious when the real Saddam uses it as a defense.

I doubt Rush Limbaugh will be called to the witness stand.

Gawain of Orkeny
11-09-2005, 01:01
I doubt Rush Limbaugh will be called to the witness stand.

Well they were actually debating about him on the floor of the Senate today. LOL

Tribesman
11-09-2005, 01:06
The point here is that if Saddam has any kind of lawyers at all they will certainlly use all of this.
Well it looks like he is running out of lawyers doesn't it , one more killed yesterday , and another wounded .

Kralizec
11-09-2005, 01:17
What a blowhard. Well, it speaks good of him that he at least recognises that the Iraq war was in fact based on lies ;)

Gawain of Orkeny
11-09-2005, 01:31
What a blowhard. Well, it speaks good of him that he at least recognises that the Iraq war was in fact based on lies ;)


He never said that.

Kaiser of Arabia
11-09-2005, 01:59
Another of your racist sites? No thanks. :coffeenews:
Your rascist, AdrainII. :elephant:

GoreBag
11-09-2005, 02:07
The link is for members only. Rush is holding a cigar. I'm confused.

I hope Saddam Hussein does write an open letter like this.

Xiahou
11-09-2005, 02:10
Rush is such a big windbag sometimes, but I still listen to him.~D


Side note: He had a great bit on the other day where he played quotes from many the people (senators and congressmen mostly) who endorsed the Iraq war back in 2002? with the same “evidence” the president had and then he played quotes of the same people trying to worm out of their quotes today. ~:joker:
This isn't from Rush, but here ya go:
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"there is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"the last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"there is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.link (http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp)

It is really so shameful of these people to now claim that Bush lied or manipulated intelligence when they were saying the exact same things themselves for years. Worst of all are people like Rockerfeller who personally had access to all of the available intelligence and now plays dumb. It's disgusting really....

Kralizec
11-09-2005, 02:17
Didn't Hillary Clinton support the invasion~:confused:

Xiahou
11-09-2005, 02:58
Didn't Hillary Clinton support the invasion~:confused:
I guess she must be part of Bush's web of lies.

Navaros
11-09-2005, 04:39
Click on the damn link man. Not only did he write it but I edited it.


Click on the link so we can get this message?


You are accessing a page reserved for Rush 24/7 members only.
Members, please enter your login and password below.

So not only do you expect people to click onto the link, you expect them to sign-up for that site. Not cool at all.

In my view, posting fabricated letters as if they are true (as has been done in this thread) should be against the rules of the site.

Soulforged
11-09-2005, 04:59
The point here is that if Saddam has any kind of lawyers at all they will certainlly use all of this.
Well it looks like he is running out of lawyers doesn't it , one more killed yesterday , and another wounded .
WOW~:eek: I heard about witnesses...But lawyers? There's one that I'll never defend. I mean what's he thinking? Jesus...

Gawain of Orkeny
11-09-2005, 05:36
Just so you all know the link worked when I posted it. But when Rushs show ends he arrchives it and that was from yesterdays show.

Seamus Fermanagh
11-09-2005, 05:44
I call that bold and brazen, not racism.

Did he end p being wrong about McNabb? Of course. McNabb is one of the best QBs in the NFL. But before he became a sensation, Rush made an observation that could very well have been true since McNabb was the first black QB with any talent whatsoever. He thought it was media hype over race. Call Rush an inaccurate sports commentaor, but racist is stretching it.


Doug Williams? Warren Moon?

Limbaugh may be many things (bombastic, flippant, sarcastic, hyper-conservative, etc.), but in none of his broadcast material can he be viewed as racist. As to his private views, I have no knowledge. Even his comment about McNabb on ESPN was really an assertion that the media was practicing reverse racism by not going after McNabb and that McNabb's performance up to that time was not justifying his hype or his price -- an assertion made by Philadelphia sportswriters. McNabb's performance since has, of course, silenced most such criticism.

I thought his "Saddam letter" was classic political commentary through the use of irony. This approach is no more out of line than were the cartoons of Nast against Tamany Hall, of Trudeau against Nixon, or Swift's "solution."

bmolsson
11-09-2005, 06:01
On a more serious note, I do believe that Saddam himself actually believes he is innocent and a protector of Iraq. The real trouble with nutjobs like this is that they are not acting, it's for real......

Gawain of Orkeny
11-09-2005, 06:21
The real trouble with nutjobs like this is that they are not acting, it's for real......

Its called sarcasim.

Soulforged
11-09-2005, 06:53
On a more serious note, I do believe that Saddam himself actually believes he is innocent and a protector of Iraq. The real trouble with nutjobs like this is that they are not acting, it's for real......I don't think so. It's an old and exhausted tactic to avoid conviction, making yourself an inimputable. The truth is that he'll never achieve it, unless he makes a deal with the Court that is judging him. Even if the judges are impartial, the political situation is too heated, and even if he was innocent he will be convicted anyway.Even more if keeps killing his lawyers.

Adrian II
11-09-2005, 07:19
Your rascist, AdrainII. :elephant:Sure. And you're an elephant. ~;p

Fragony
11-09-2005, 10:55
That couldn't have been written by Saddam Hussein, or any arab. It lacks the rhetoric, he wouldn't chose words like that.

Frag says HOAX.

Idaho
11-09-2005, 11:19
That couldn't have been written by Saddam Hussein, or any arab. It lacks the rhetoric, he wouldn't chose words like that.

Frag says HOAX.

Frag also clearly doesn't read threads before posting on them ~:joker:

Idaho
11-09-2005, 11:20
Its called sarcasim.

It's called a what? ~:joker:

Fragony
11-09-2005, 11:24
Frag also clearly doesn't read threads before posting on them ~:joker:

Guilty your honour, now kssssssssssssst begone ~;p