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Aurelian

11-10-2005, 23:53

Pat Robertson again showed America just how uncomfortable he and his followers are with the concept of not living in a theocracy. Dover, Pennsylvania, just voted out of office their entire eight-member school board for trying to impose "intelligent design" on their children. Today, Pat fired back with a withering threat that God might smite them for "rejecting Him from your city".

Read on McDuff:

Televangelist Robertson warns town of God's wrath
Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:17 PM ET

By Alan Elsner

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Conservative Christian televangelist Pat Robertson told citizens of a Pennsylvania town that they had rejected God by voting their school board out of office for supporting "intelligent design" and warned them on Thursday not to be surprised if disaster struck.

Robertson, a former Republican presidential candidate and founder of the influential conservative Christian Broadcasting Network and Christian Coalition, has a long record of similar apocalyptic warnings and provocative statements.

Last summer, he hit the headlines by calling for the assassination of leftist Venezuelan Present Hugo Chavez, one of President George W. Bush's most vocal international critics.

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city," Robertson said on his daily television show broadcast from Virginia, "The 700 Club."

"And don't wonder why He hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for His help because he might not be there," he said.

The 700 Club claims a daily audience of around one million. It is also broadcast around the world translated into more than 70 languages.

In voting on Tuesday, all eight Dover, Pennsylvania, school board members up for re-election lost their seats after trying to introduce "intelligent design" to high school science students as an alternative to the theory of evolution.

Adherents of intelligent design argue that certain forms in nature are too complex to have evolved through natural selection and must have been created by a "designer." Opponents say it is the latest attempt by conservatives to introduce religion into the school science curriculum.

The Dover case sparked a trial in federal court that gained nationwide attention after the school board was sued by parents backed by the American Civil Liberties Union. The board ordered schools to read students a short statement in biology classes informing them that the theory of evolution is not established fact and that gaps exist in it.

The statement mentioned intelligent design as an alternate theory and recommended students read a book that explained the theory further. A decision in the case is expected before the end of the year.

In 1998, Robertson warned the city of Orlando, Florida that it risked hurricanes, earthquakes and terrorist bombs after it allowed homosexual organizations to put up rainbow flags in support of sexual diversity.

Oh, and I always thought God was punishing Florida for the 2000 election. Glad to see that it's for rainbow flags.

But, seriously, I joke about God punishing the Gulf Coast for voting Bush into office, but Pat Robertson actually believes that God sits around waiting to punish people for things like tolerance towards homosexuals and rejection of 'intelligent design' theory.

I'd like him to explain why the only part of New Orleans that was spared significant damage was the French Quarter with its prostitutes, booze, and naked boobies. I think God and Pat Robertson must have different priorities.

Spetulhu

11-11-2005, 00:03

I'd like him to explain why the only part of New Orleans that was spared significant damage was the French Quarter with its prostitutes, booze, and naked boobies. I think God and Pat Robertson must have different priorities.

Floods is just run-of-the-mill testing of the faithful, same as plagues, meteor strikes and war. The Lord is planning even worse punishment for the immoral French Quarter so naturally he had to spare it the regular testing. ~:rolleyes:

Kanamori

11-11-2005, 00:04

If this man ever gets elected or appointed into any office, I will be very compelled to leave the States.

Papewaio

11-11-2005, 00:11

Floods is just run-of-the-mill testing of the faithful, same as plagues, meteor strikes and war. The Lord is planning even worse punishment for the immoral French Quarter so naturally he had to spare it the regular testing. ~:rolleyes:

Yes, He is using the same selection process as the Allies in WWII with dropping the Bomb. Leave the area untarnished so you really get to see the huge difference when the trumpets sound.

drone

11-11-2005, 00:11

Uh, didn't the Pope just reject intelligent design?
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html

Does he expect tornados to cease in Kansas (which just allowed ID)? We will wait and see next year if Toto goes flying! ~D

Crazed Rabbit

11-11-2005, 00:21

Well, Pat 'Who Would Jesus Assasinate' Robertson probably already doesn't like the Vatican.

The Vatican, by the way, was one of the first supporters of the Big Bang theory in the 1960s (i think that's when the theory came out).

Crazed Rabbit

Kralizec

11-11-2005, 00:36

Is this also the guy who said that 9/11 was God's punishment for allowing homosexuals to live among normal people ~:confused:

Byzantine Prince

11-11-2005, 00:36

LOL rabbit, I like that WWJA phrase! Genius.

Yes the Catholic church has a very advanced philosophical system, I can't see anyone really being able to completely destroy it, except by using the church's sacred history, but even then...

Hurin_Rules

11-11-2005, 00:38

Darnit, Aurelian, you bet me to it.

I was going to entitle mine, "The Scourge of God", and let the members figure out to whom this refered. ~:)

Crazed Rabbit

11-11-2005, 00:52

I must give credit for the WWJA to Michael Ramirez, a (conservative!) cartoonist:
http://www.cagle.com/news/PatRobertson/images/ramirez.gif

Crazed Rabbit

Aurelian

11-11-2005, 01:40

~:)

Oh, here's the article about the Catholic Church backing Darwin: Evolution in the Bible Says Vatican (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17162341-13762,00.html). I bet Robertson and Falwell say bad things about Catholic "idolaters" when they get together to give each other their weekly hot oil rubdowns.

Nice thing about Catholicism: They've learned to take the long view of things and roll with the punches. Plus, their schools usually provide a pretty decent education.

As for natural disasters, what the heck do you suppose the people in that Indiana trailer park did? Must have been pretty bad. LINK (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051110/NEWS01/51110029/1006)

Ah, I just figured it out. Sixty percent of them voted for Bush in the 2004 election. LINK (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/IN/) I bet if we correlated natural disasters by state with the results of the 2004 election we'd have clear proof that my theory explains things better than Pat Robertson's.

Yes, I've just looked at the list of FEMA Major Disaster Declarations for 2005 (http://www.fema.gov/news/disasters.fema?year=2005). I've calculated that in 2005, on the 40 occasions when God chose to smite the United States with a Major Disaster, only 8 smitings occurred in states that voted for John Kerry. Fully 80% of God's smitings occurred in states that went for George Bush in 2005.

Coincidence? I think not.

When you further examine the data, you find that of the 8 occasions when God targeted blue states for smiting:

* Two were in California (in retaliation for electing Arnold Schwarzenegger)
* One was in New Hampshire (the only New England state that George Bush almost carried)

Most notably, liberal Massachusetts was spared smiting despite a 2003 State Supreme Court ruling that legalized gay marriage.

Yea, verily I say unto you that God is sending a clear message that He will no longer tolerate the wickedness, depravity, and Pharisee-like tendencies of America's red states.

Furthermore, let us not forget the "Miracle of the Disappearing WMDs", and the miraculous investigation and/or indictment of everyone in the Republican party.

Blessed be the name of the Lord,

Amen

Aurelian

11-11-2005, 01:42

accidental repeat.

Aurelian

11-11-2005, 01:50

edited accidental repeat

Xiahou

11-11-2005, 01:57

The man is a kook.... no doubt about it.

Red Harvest

11-11-2005, 02:23

Pat Robertson's existence could be used to further the argument AGAINST Intelligent Design.

Quietus

11-11-2005, 02:47

AntiochusIII

11-11-2005, 02:49

Pat Robertson's existence could be used to further the argument AGAINST Intelligent Design.He's Michael Moore of the Right, you mean? ~D

AmenAmen. ~;p

Adrian II

11-11-2005, 04:41

If there really is a biblical God, I doubt that he would ever be embarrassed by the likes of Pat. It would be nice though if He sent, let us say, a twister to suck Pat up, individually, from somewhere in the middle of the cornfields. Unseen by anyone. Never to be seen again. From one moment to the next. Whoosh!

Imagine..

~:cool:

Soulforged

11-11-2005, 05:12

But, seriously, I joke about God punishing the Gulf Coast for voting Bush into office, but Pat Robertson actually believes that God sits around waiting to punish people for things like tolerance towards homosexuals and rejection of 'intelligent design' theory..
Well...It's in the bible, God has the bad habit of getting furious and smash people's little heads, burn them, electrocute them and turning them into salt.~;)
This guy always surprises me, I thought there was a limit on the things that fanactics could say, but I was wrong. :no:

Quietus

11-11-2005, 05:26

Well...It's in the bible, God has the bad habit of getting furious and smash people's little heads, burn them, electrocute them and turning them into salt.~;)
This guy always surprises me, I thought there was a limit on the things that fanactics could say, but I was wrong. :no: It's a scare tactic and a control mechanism to keep people's behaviour in-check and render them submissive.

eg. Do X and Y will happen to you, courtesy of deity Z.

The problem is there's no actual deity and the people who control the deity controls morality. And they get to set and limit what people can do or think of.

Byzantine Prince

11-11-2005, 05:32

This guy always surprises me, I thought there was a limit on the things that fanactics could say, but I was wrong. :no:
What are you talking about? This guy is ridiculously funny! Am I the only person who finds this guy so blatanly ironic? I mean Ann Coulter is somewhat of a hazy perons in regards to her opinions, but this guy heads the christian TV movement and he calls for assasinations on people and for the security of oil shipments. It's deliscious!

Crazed Rabbit

11-11-2005, 05:58

Like, he's the Howard Dean of Evagelical Christians, but the media gives him more publicity whenever he says soemthing like this.

Crazed Rabbit

Xiahou

11-11-2005, 06:15

Like, he's the Howard Dean of Evagelical Christians, but the media gives him more publicity whenever he says soemthing like this.

Crazed Rabbit
You know, that's actually pretty accurate in my book. ~D

Soulforged

11-11-2005, 06:32

The problem is there's no actual deity and the people who control the deity controls morality. And they get to set and limit what people can do or think of.We found ourselves agreeing more than I would want too.~:cheers: (note: not because of you, but I always like comflict)

What are you talking about? This guy is ridiculously funny! Am I the only person who finds this guy so blatanly ironic? I mean Ann Coulter is somewhat of a hazy perons in regards to her opinions, but this guy heads the christian TV movement and he calls for assasinations on people and for the security of oil shipments. It's deliscious!But it's not ironic at all, Christian doctrine has hold vengeance as one of their highest values in the Order. But I find him funny, the problem is that we've here many "negotiators" and opportunists evangelicals and chrisitians, whom steal money from the people's purse, so I'm kind of "used" to it.~:joker:

GoreBag

11-11-2005, 06:34

But it's not ironic at all, Christian doctrine has hold vengeance as one of their highest values in the Order.

What about at all that 'turn the other cheek' stuff?

Alexander the Pretty Good

11-11-2005, 19:27

Soulforged, really, where do you come up with some of this?

Re rest of thread:

:coffeenews:

ichi

11-11-2005, 20:24

Let me see if I get this. By voting God out of their city, the folks of Dover lost their right to say

"Please Lord save us from the troubles that You have sent upon us"

and, if things got really really bad in Dover couldn't they just reelect the Christians to the school board, say, "Look, God, we have made Thee a sacrifice of the heathen board members" and everything would be cool again. If you can vote God out of your city then surely you can vote him back in (works best when He is a write-in candidate).

or perhaps it was God's will that the good townspeople voted the way that they did, because He wants us to continue pursuing truth and understanding instead of following superstitions and myths. Maybe a truly loving God would want the best for us.

ichi:bow:

ps the 'WWJA' thing is hilarious, as is most of this thread

yesdachi

11-11-2005, 20:50

or perhaps it was God's will that the good townspeople voted the way that they did, because He wants us to continue pursuing truth and understanding instead of following superstitions and myths.

ps the 'WWJA' thing is hilarious, as is most of this thread
Blasphemer! ~;)

The WWJA is funny ~D

Lazul

11-11-2005, 20:50

in my oppinion, he is amongst the biggest idiot/moron/*insert insulting label here* in the world... along with ann coulter...:coffeenews:

Papewaio

11-11-2005, 21:22

Imagine if Pats and Michael Moores kids get married... oh the stupidity of the grandchildren...~:eek:

Alexander the Pretty Good

11-11-2005, 21:40

Imagine if Pats and Michael Moores kids get married... oh the stupidity of the grandchildren...

Anyone here in favor of abortion in these circumstances say "aye"!

~:eek:

Red Harvest

11-11-2005, 22:37

I really think God needs to get some new political consultants if He's actually going to participate in politics this way. I mean, this is really the ultimate in scare tactics for campaigning: elect My chosen board members, or I'll destroy your city. That doesn't play well in the heartland, it is out of touch with family values and with economic policies the average American wants.

It is probably time for God to "pull" Pat from the line up. I think America might be tiring of the angry vengeful God smiting his own, and a fresh message might be useful. Without a change of message, God could find His political organizations on the list of terrorist entities.

God might want to emphasize Jesus more in His proxy speeches here on Earth. I think Jesus can relate to the common working man/woman more than God. Afterall, Jesus actually became a man, so there is a connection with the voters that God just doesn't have. Jesus' message is less about destruction and more about compassion. This message would appeal more to moderates and liberals, although it might anger some of the core.

(That's all tongue-in-cheek, folks...)

Soulforged

11-12-2005, 00:24

What about at all that 'turn the other cheek' stuff?
It appears that you don't understand the real procedence of that frase. Of course by faith you could interpret anything as you want, but putting it in context it has been interpreted that it means: "If you're going to slap me again do it like equals" (ie the salves where slaped in the left cheek).

Soulforged, really, where do you come up with some of this?
This thread is for discussing the sempiternal stupidity of Mr. Robertson. But if you want to iniciate another debate ok: It comes from the Bible.

Alexander the Pretty Good

11-12-2005, 00:49

ichi

11-12-2005, 01:52

Byzantine Prince

11-12-2005, 03:56

This thread is for discussing the sempiternal stupidity of Mr. Robertson. But if you want to iniciate another debate ok: It comes from the Bible.

You and Quietus annoy me, you seem to be on the same wavelength however so might I suggest a chatting program, like yahoo, or msn.

Your "you don't turn your cheek because it's in the Bible" does not fly even with me. :brood:

Major Robert Dump

11-12-2005, 04:46

Pat does not speak for all christians and frequently does more harm than good to his cause with all the stupid stuff he says. Oddly enough, it seems that you never hear many christians criticizing him for his idiotic manner of thinking...cna't figure out if they just arent hearing it, if they just think the media are out to get him, or if its like some christian thin blue line or something....

He also supports abortion in China

His line of thinking is the same that the GHF people do when they go around to dead soldiers funerals and mke a disruption

Soulforged

11-12-2005, 05:29

You [and Quietus], not I, brought up the "Christianity is dumb/Christians are hypocrites" topic. If you want to spout that rubbish, why not keep it out of what was a fun thread. Bashing Pat Robertson is a good way to unite the .Org. Criticizing Christianity/Christians in general in the same thread isn't so hot.I? What are you talking about man LOL...At least take a look at the fact after talking on who does this and that...I just entered the thread after that. Perhaps you're making assumptions on the generalized standard of the typical atheist in your head.

You and Quietus annoy me, you seem to be on the same wavelength however so might I suggest a chatting program, like yahoo, or msn.OK BP, all was right until this point. First I tought you were an atheist. Second: If you've a problem with me then announce it here so I can discuss it with you.

Your "you don't turn your cheek because it's in the Bible" does not fly even with me.What? Shouldn't it be: "You turn your cheek because it's in the Bible"? In anycase I don't understand you, perhaps you'll take your time and explain it to me.~:confused:

Quietus

11-12-2005, 05:45

You [and Quietus], not I, brought up the "Christianity is dumb/Christians are hypocrites" topic. If you want to spout that rubbish, why not keep it out of what was a fun thread. Bashing Pat Robertson is a good way to unite the .Org. Criticizing Christianity/Christians in general in the same thread isn't so hot. Here's my quote:

It's a scare tactic and a control mechanism to keep people's behaviour in-check and render them submissive.

eg. Do X and Y will happen to you, courtesy of deity Z.

The problem is there's no actual deity and the people who control the deity controls morality. And they get to set and limit what people can do or think of. What do you think Pat Robertson is doing, he's using an idea of God to push his agenda and morality? He's controlling this God.

We found ourselves agreeing more than I would want too. ~:cheers: (note: not because of you, but I always like comflict). I still think that the Law is a social concensus. :hide:

Soulforged

11-12-2005, 05:48

I still think that the Law is a social concensus. :hide:For another thread ->That's if you accept the fiction of the social contract, the fiction of representation and the fiction of due process.~;)

solypsist

11-12-2005, 23:27

Bill O'Reilly makes his share of Pat Robertson-esque stupid comments:

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=4107018&nav=5D7l

Red Harvest

11-12-2005, 23:32

Bill O'Reilly makes his share of Pat Robertson-esque stupid comments:

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=4107018&nav=5D7l

O'Reilly should be canned. Unfortunately, he's pretty typical of the right wing approach of total war on those who disagree with them--whether or not they happen to be fellow citizens.

Strike For The South

11-13-2005, 01:55

Bill O Rileys a dickhead. What a moron

Crazed Rabbit

11-13-2005, 02:17

O'Reilly should be canned. Unfortunately, he's pretty typical of the right wing approach of total war on those who disagree with them--whether or not they happen to be fellow citizens.

This is not a typical approach at all. There's a couple wackos, not the whole GOP. Sheesh.

Crazed Rabbit

Tribesman

11-13-2005, 02:30

This is not a typical approach at all. There's a couple wackos, not the whole GOP. Sheesh.

You are either with us or against us , not typical at all is it .~D ~D ~D

Crazed Rabbit

11-13-2005, 02:36

You are either with us or against us , not typical at all is it .

How many other right-wingers have basically said its okay for AQ to attack any part of America?

Crazed Rabbit

Red Harvest

11-13-2005, 04:21

How many other right-wingers have basically said its okay for AQ to attack any part of America?

Crazed Rabbit

In so many words, quite a high percentage actually. O'Reilly was just stupid enough to be blatant about it.

Major Robert Dump

11-13-2005, 11:27

They shouldn't ban recruiters, but they should let the students have a sit down with some teachers afterwards to ask questions to sort through the hard facts, without the recruiter there. Note I said teachers, not teacher, thats what my second high school did for students who wanted to, and the teachers even debated it in front of us it was quite entertaining.

Recruiters are salesmen, and the way NOT to do it is to march all the kids into an auditorium, have some guy give you a nice presentation and only let you ask kid glove questions, any difficult questions that would be bad for sales you would have to "set up an appointment" and then march everyone out. Thats what my first high school did.

Pat Orielly needs to understand that that region deserves military protection just as much as the federal reserve requires that regions taxes, kind of funny how that works, isn't it? Such tactics go on at several levels of funding and grants to states and communities, but to threaten withdrawel of the miltary too hahahahaha Bill you're a retard. Does that mean they could kick out all the federal workers for being spies?

Oh wait we were talking about Pat Robertson. I wish Benny Hinn and him would fight

KafirChobee

11-13-2005, 19:19