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LeftEyeNine
11-17-2005, 00:50
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/349830.asp

Some bombing of a bookshop in Hakkari were claimed to be involving security forces action last week. Since the day, a riot has begun there, every other day people make demonstrations in Semdinli and Hakkari. There has been a demonstration in neighbor city Sirnak as well..

http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/349176.asp

And after the mentioned incident in Silopi the prosecutor's car was bombed. There are suspects whether the two incidents have connection..

Well, it's been a bit late than I expected. However, I hit the bullseye, the Kurdish issue have arisen again.
Incongruous
11-17-2005, 07:09
Well, is there going to be a nother massacre?:hide:
Adrian II
11-17-2005, 12:20
However, I hit the bullseye, the Kurdish issue have arisen again.Why would that be?
LeftEyeNine
11-17-2005, 18:38
Along the road to full EU membership of course, AdrianII..

Bopa, when did the other one happen ?
Adrian II
11-17-2005, 18:41
Along the road to full EU membership of course, AdrianII...Eh?

So who do you think is doing what to whom in order to achieve what exactly?
Watchman
11-17-2005, 18:41
*cougharmenianscough*
LeftEyeNine
11-17-2005, 18:54
To get what they wanted by means of PKK years.. It's such a perfect time that since Turkey is under surveillance of EU members, that if you have some deal with Turkey, yell it out. You'll get something..
Byzantine Prince
11-17-2005, 19:33
Oh please.

Why don't turks stop complaining already. It's become tiresome.
Tribesman
11-17-2005, 20:07
Why don't turks stop complaining already. It's become tiresome.

Yeah decades of terrorism is just soooo tiresome~:rolleyes:
Adrian II
11-17-2005, 20:45
To get what they wanted by means of PKK years.. It's such a perfect time that since Turkey is under surveillance of EU members, that if you have some deal with Turkey, yell it out. You'll get something..Come on. Who is 'they'? And what are 'they' yelling for?
LeftEyeNine
11-17-2005, 21:28
Byzantine Prince,

That's not complaint at all. It's all about the news itself and predictions I had stated earlier.. Stop dealing with my topics, if you don't like it, stay away. Go provocate someone else somewhere..Please..

AdrianII,

The Kurdish riot has been more desperate than ever, and it seems the incidents in Hakkari are the signs of it.


Yeah decades of terrorism is just soooo tiresome

Sarcasm or serious ?
Tribesman
11-17-2005, 21:30
Sarcasm or serious ?
Both .
Adrian II
11-17-2005, 21:38
The Kurdish riot has been more desperate than ever, and it seems the incidents in Hakkari are the signs of it.Earlier this week in the town of Semdinli, men threw a bomb into a bookshop that belonged to a man with Kurdish affinity. One person died, another was wounded in the attack. Passersby managed to detain the bombers. IN their car documetns were found that pointed to the secret service of the Turkish police. At first sight, it seems a clear provocation by Turkish nationalists.

This caused the demonstration in Hakkari, where Turkish police shot dead three demonstrators.

So yes, it looks as if some people want to rekindle the Kurdish unrest, and these people are not Kurdish...
LeftEyeNine
11-17-2005, 22:04
The Kurdish bookshop owner had a history with PKK connections.

Well, I'm doubtful over the deeds of Turkish Security in Eastern Turkey. However, no army on earth is so pure and contradictively since Turkish identity is based on race, such conflicts would somehow happen and it may have been.


So yes, it looks as if some people want to rekindle the Kurdish unrest, and these people are not Kurdish...

Creating an unrest by a non-Kurdish was not the primary purpose, if any. Who would want a riot over there ?
Watchman
11-17-2005, 22:05
I presume you know what agent provocateur means ?
Adrian II
11-17-2005, 22:06
The Kurdish bookshop owner had a history with PKK connections.Oh well, reason enough to bomb his shop then.
Who would want a riot over there ?You tell us, you foresaw this.
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 02:44
You tell us, you foresaw this.

Well, I have to clear things up :

1- Kurdish riot was quite probable to me. Because it was the perfect time for them to yell out

2- I see no reason for Turkish security forces starting a riot there. But please pay attention here. I'm not saying that they did not do anything there. The riot is the result of the uncovering of security officers detected after the bombing.

Which ever the way it started, that's a riot. If there were no bombing incidents there, it would just be at a later time, but would be somehow.. And that's why I called my predictions being accurate..

Is it clear, please, Adrian II ?


I presume you know what agent provocateur means ?

Yeah it seems quite clear. But what would be the benefit of a Kurdish riot started by Turks - if you mean so ?
Papewaio
11-18-2005, 02:46
Riots tend to benefit politicians that are trying to justify a hard right policy much more then whatever rioters are protesting.
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 02:54
If I got it right, I have to remind that the current Turkish government is a moderate Islamic one. And there are a lot of parliamenters and even some ministers being Kurd.
Adrian II
11-18-2005, 07:41
1- Kurdish riot was quite probable to me. Because it was the perfect time for them to yell out. The perfect time to demand an end to Turkish police terror, if you ask me. It seems they have a case.
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 15:03
If only things were that innocent and one-sided..
Adrian II
11-18-2005, 15:55
If only things were that innocent and one-sided..Well, state your case. So far you are only suggesting all sorts of things. I mean, since when is the bombing of a bookshop by policemen not sufficient provocation?
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 16:09
I mean, since when is the bombing of a bookshop by policemen not sufficient provocation?

You insist on misunderstanding me.


2- I see no reason for Turkish security forces starting a riot there. But please pay attention here. I'm not saying that they did not do anything there. The riot is the result of the uncovering of security officers detected after the bombing.

Which ever the way it started, that's a riot. If there were no bombing incidents there, it would just be at a later time, but would be somehow.. And that's why I called my predictions being accurate..

And I said :


If only things were that innocent and one-sided..

Because it is just something too biased to blame it all over Turkish policemen about the Kurdish issue. Some bombers recently caught and they confessed that they were acting towards the cyphered messages delivered b means of Roj TV broadcasting from Denmark. I give this example because things are just not that innocent and one-sided.
Adrian II
11-18-2005, 16:19
Because it is just something too biased to blame it all over Turkish policemen about the Kurdish issue. Some bombers recently caught and they confessed that they were acting towards the cyphered messages delivered b means of Roj TV broadcasting from Denmark. I give this example because things are just not that innocent and one-sided.So the situation was tense. In this tense situation Turkish policemen bombed a bookshop. Kurds demonstrated against it and they were shot at. So tell me - who was provoking whom, and on what purpose?
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 16:39
So the situation was tense. In this tense situation Turkish policemen bombed a bookshop.

The bombing was not desperate. You think it was state-commanded, public operation or something ?


Kurds demonstrated against it and they were shot at. So tell me - who was provoking whom, and on what purpose?

I'm having serious difficulty being understanded..
Adrian II
11-18-2005, 16:41
The bombing was not desperate.It was a crime perpetrated by Turkish policemen against a Kurdish sympathiser. Never mind if it was a desperate act or not. How could this happen?
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 16:49
It was a crime perpetrated by Turkish policemen against a Kurdish sympathiser.

Let's correct things up.. The bookshop keeper was Kurdish himself, he had criminal background with PKK.


Never mind if it was a desperate act or not. How could this happen?

1- By means of regional military commandment
2- "Deep state" job
3- Though lowly probable, individual act
4- Conspiracy theory : PKK's job to ignite a riot.
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 17:23
Latest news :

http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/350280.asp

The governor thanked DEHAP for their common sense at the funeral of the victim of the bombing. And told that the incident does not have such relations like it had in Susurluk scandal, where underworld and state connections had been revealed after a traffic accident.
Adrian II
11-18-2005, 21:45
Latest news :

http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/350280.asp

The governor (..) told that the incident does not have such relations like it had in Susurluk scandal, where underworld and state connections had been revealed after a traffic accident.So how does the Governor know this? The investigation has just begun.
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 22:01
They are afraid of something.. Do not ask me what they are afraid of.. I'm not their advocate..
Adrian II
11-18-2005, 22:09
They are afraid of something.. Do not ask me what they are afraid of.. I'm not their advocate..My dear LeftEyeNine, you speak in riddles. ~;)

I wondered how the Governor knew this was not another 'Susurluk'. You answer that 'they' are afraid. Who are 'they'?
LeftEyeNine
11-18-2005, 22:39
The governors and all alike him are afraid of something.. The ministers constantly insist that this will not be left covered.. That sounds like a tool to make it forgotten that is working in a counter way..

AdrianII, I've never consumed that much glycose ~D