Arise My Punk Brethren [Archive]

master of the puppets

11-17-2005, 17:07

I am punk/goth or so all my friends say, hopefully you know what that means if not then you do not belong here, if you do then cmon in, i intend on starting a clan for punk/metal head/goth people but first i will need to know who here considers them selves punkish. if you do just say hi and let me know you hate society in many different ways. hopefully if there are enough of you we can start a group of some kind, and then uh...discuss music, and uhm... ok so i did'nt think that far ahead mabey youi guys can come up with some ideas.

InsaneApache

11-17-2005, 17:40

I used to be a punk back in '76-'77...but I'm far too laid back these days for all that 'teen' aggression. Still best of luck to ya!!!!! ~:)

GoreBag

11-17-2005, 20:45

There was a thread for metalheads a while ago. It died.

Tricon

11-17-2005, 20:49

There was a thread for metalheads a while ago. It died.

Sadly, yes.

GoreBag

11-17-2005, 20:59

Sadly, yes.

Sadly? I remember killing that thread...do you mean there should be another? No one ever posted.

Reverend Joe

11-17-2005, 22:07

I am definitely not a punk or goth- but, my fellow anticultural bretheren, I salute you. (More grass for me, anyway. ~:joker:)

Duke John

11-17-2005, 23:02

"Teen agression" indeed. When I was a teenager I was drawing violent scenes and put as many skulls on my Warhammer models as possible (the geek that I am... was!). Now I can't recall what was so fascinating about it.

Alexanderofmacedon

11-17-2005, 23:18

I'm not punk or goth, but I'm a metal head...

Metallica
Godsmack
Mudvayne

Rock on brotha!~:)

Tricon

11-17-2005, 23:29

Sadly? I remember killing that thread...do you mean there should be another? No one ever posted.

That's true. Still, I think it's agood idea. I have no Idea of how a thread like this can be kept alive ... maybe with regular metall (or in this related case: goth ,punk)news. Or reviews of fovorite albums.
Anyway, by reading the thread and comparing favorite bands with other posters with similar taste, I got to know some nice bands.
For example, since I live in the states I get little exposure to scandinavian metall (the biggies , basically, that's it). Word of mouth , and forums are some of my few resources. There's blabbermouth, but thats basically music bashing. How the hecjk should one know what kind of music Finntroll plays, if you lack all comparison?

Oops, gotta go. Sorry, didn't mean to hijack. It's related in my opinion.

Alexanderofmacedon

11-17-2005, 23:32

Neon, I just wasn't around when that thread was...

I'll keep it up!!

You guys ever heard of Shadows Fall?

Alrowan

11-18-2005, 00:17

i find it hard to class a punk in the same catagory as a goth, who can sometimes loosley fit in with metal...

most punk/goth claimants tend to be just emo kids.

so why cant punks be goths?

well to put it simply, punk is a political ideal of anarchy and giving it to the man, wheras goth is about enjoying the darker side of life that one might live a fuller life (not about being some depressing kid like a lot of people tend to believe - once again thats a form of Emo) and hence why a goth can be into metal :)

anyway as for me i used to be a punk, but i grew up and now im more of a metal head, listening to the good ol viking tunes such as Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Hammerfall, Nightwish, Evergrey and Opeth

Sjakihata

11-18-2005, 00:21

uhm... ok so i did'nt think that far ahead

A typical reply from a punk/goth person.

master of the puppets

11-18-2005, 02:25

most punk/goth claimants tend to be just emo kids.

what are you accusing me of?

i don't know how to catagorize myself, thats my friends job, and due to my cruel fascination with death and killing plus my rigerous hatred of most political parties and disgust at the modern world they have labled me goth/punk and also (independently?) a metalhead. you tell me.

well alexander i had never heard of them but since u and me like the same music i did a search 4 it on limewire and ramdomly picked out a song called "a fire in babylon" damn good stuff, what songs would be there best.

also have anyone of you heard of Cradle of filth?

Sasaki Kojiro

11-18-2005, 04:03

Disturbed and drowning pool are pretty good.

GoreBag

11-18-2005, 04:56

Ahh! Mallcore, mallcore everywhere!

Strike For The South

11-18-2005, 05:02

Country Pwns

Reverend Joe

11-18-2005, 05:19

Country Pwns
*snort*

LeftEyeNine

11-18-2005, 05:31

Everything that includes brutal or scream vocals, I simply avoid. So Cradle Of Filth had better keep off from my ears..

Nightwish and Stratovarius (power metal bands, right?) are seldom metal bands I love hearing.. You just can not think of anything alerting your nerves better than the intro of Nightwish - Crownless. Stratovarius' Millenium track will one day blow up my cheap Chinese 5.1 speakers because of those kick drums beating like a horse's heart all along.

Recently I'm into that disbanded Sentenced, I just can not stop repeating their Drain Me track over and over..

Streetlight Manifesto is a hot prospect for punk genre. However, though claimed over-popular, I can not deny my love for Offspring and Green Day..

*tunes Offspring - Genocide and puts Green Day - Longview in the queue..*

monkian

11-18-2005, 12:11

Um, Im in work with a blue Mohawk and a Misfits top if that counts :thrasher:

Ps Emo is gay.

Tricon

11-18-2005, 14:59

I'm not fond of emo either, but for the life of me I don't get why people have to slam music they don't like. Just ignore it then, but don't insult people who listen to it.
The only kind of music I sometimes slam is that which does not involve the playing of actuall instruments. And even THAT was created by someone. (Come to think of it, I don't mind that kind of music either, I just mind that it gets so much airtime and that they make sooo much money of it. ARGH!)

Geoffrey S

11-18-2005, 16:09

Gah, labels...~:rolleyes:

master of the puppets

11-18-2005, 18:07

I'm not fond of emo either, but for the life of me I don't get why people have to slam music they don't like. Just ignore it then, but don't insult people who listen to it.

i'm not slaming the music, I'M SLAMMING THE PEOPLE, i used to know some and now i look at them in disgust. a guy wearing girls pants, having wristbands to cover the cutting marks and a scarf tried around there neck falling down over there pink shirt, its unnatural.

ps. i hate there music to, its so...whiny, all they ever talk about how they lost there GFs.

BDC

11-18-2005, 18:15

There are no true punks anymore. Everyone washes too much these days.

Even the weird wannabe goths at the My Chem concert all seemed to want to be midwifes or something. Strange people. Although not in the way they think of themselves as strange haha.

GoreBag

11-18-2005, 18:59

There are no true punks anymore.

True. Punk died six months after it started.

Geoffrey S

11-18-2005, 19:44

i'm not slaming the music, I'M SLAMMING THE PEOPLE, i used to know some and now i look at them in disgust. a guy wearing girls pants, having wristbands to cover the cutting marks and a scarf tried around there neck falling down over there pink shirt, its unnatural.

ps. i hate there music to, its so...whiny, all they ever talk about how they lost there GFs.
So, you're quoting Tricon and doing exactly what he asked you (kindly) not to do? Hating people or music because it doesn't fit in your pigeonhole is a rather immature way of viewing the world.

Anyway, would ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead count as emo? They're ace.

GoreBag

11-19-2005, 00:54

Anyway, would ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead count as emo? They're ace.

Hardcore, the genre. So, not necessarily emo, but not metal enough. Of course, I'm an elitist...

Alrowan

11-19-2005, 14:45

screamo is emo with screaming...

anyway, emo kids sicken me, sorry Master of Puppets if i accidently labled you sch, but emo kids are basically deadbeats, who have no will to do anything in life, just sit down and whine thier bleading hearts out. One thing to all you Emo kids, blood is RED not BLACK so stop sayin you bleed black and all that crap.

that said, its nice to see things coming out taking the piss out of emo ( http://www.emorangers.com anyone?)

seriously, if a kid was really depressed they wouldnt aim at making it a lifestyle, thats just messed up. I dont know why, but some of the modern emo kids just try to be depressed so they can seem cool, ive seen it all, and its really pathetic.

ANYWAYS if we are going to talk true emo (orriginated in the 80's, we are in the 3rd wave of emo now) then the orriginal emo was actually kinda cool, it was a reference for artists who really got into the performance of thier music, and it was very emotionally charged, not about depressing things so to speak, but mainly politics, life and other such things.

and just to help those who want to see some sort of progression from emo>metal via how hard they get heres how it goes>>>

Emo (kinda pop punk sound, think simple plan, or dashboard confessional)
Screamo (pop punk where the lead singer likes to scream as well as sing)
Hardcore (more screaming, less emo topics, most of these bands are more political leftists)
Metalcore (basically the same as hardcore, usually less screaming vocals, heavier riffs, and bigger sounds overall)
Nu-Metal (kinda slightly out of line, but its where it fits in the scheme of things, basically a tame form of metal, lack of good musicianship, and more about the 3:30 minute single than the music)
Metal (yeah we all know this godly stuff, 10 minute compositions, screaming solos, double kicks on those drums beating at 10000bpm's, mix of vocals from the very deep growls to the high pitch falsetto found in tight jeans)

i could go to list the various progressions in metal, but i tihnk it would require more of a tree diagram, following the history of metal through to modern day, covering all its variants

A.Saturnus

11-19-2005, 17:54

I wear black clothes, listen to goth music and go to gothic parties but I´m not a goth.

Byzantine Prince

11-19-2005, 17:58

I wear black clothes, listen to goth music and go to gothic parties but I´m not a goth.
Then why do you pretend to be someone you are not? ~D

A.Saturnus

11-19-2005, 18:04

Then why do you pretend to be someone you are not? ~D

Who else should I pretend to be?

Byzantine Prince

11-19-2005, 18:05

Who else should I pretend to be?
I pretend to be someone I am. I am the dark prince of the City, now all of you bend over. :knight:

master of the puppets

11-19-2005, 18:55

so your pretending to be A large prisoner asserting dominance over the less powerful person in the jailcell/showers. you sicken me.

nice one alrowan, who are the emo ranger supposed to be fighting, there own "inner deamons", bah! i embrace my inner demons and allow them to assert power so i can be more EVIL. lol~;p

GoreBag

11-19-2005, 20:01

Alrowan, you missed pre-Minor Threat hardcore. That stuff didn't suck...with the exception of Suicidal Tendencies.

Alrowan

11-19-2005, 21:36

emo rangers fight the evil hoodie patrols and the big monster robots (aka power rangers?) its actually a good take on power rangers itself

and yes i forgot the pre-mid 90's hardcore scene, probably the best one ever :(

but like the mid 90's punk scene, its dead and gone, i must accept that now :(

today punk is dead, all the bands play over-produced crap that a punk would throw up at, the mid 90's revival of the fun surf punk was cool, but it didnt last, so sadly we must listen to Breakup Songs Volume XXXIV

Geoffrey S

11-19-2005, 21:44

today punk is dead, all the bands play over-produced crap that a punk would throw up at, the mid 90's revival of the fun surf punk was cool, but it didnt last, so sadly we must listen to Breakup Songs Volume XXXIV
Hey, cheer up: all the more chance to try out other genres, right? ~;)

Byzantine Prince

11-19-2005, 21:46

If you hate the current punk scene then why don't you make your own band? It's not like punk requires much talent.

GoreBag

11-19-2005, 21:48

If you hate the current punk scene then why don't you make your own band? It's not like punk requires much talent.

Because one band doesn't qualify as a 'scene'.

IrishMike

11-20-2005, 01:59

Well while were going on subculture:
I'm a 60's-70's rock, rage against the machine, longer haird (not shoulder length by anymeans though) hippie so to speak. Who's in exile due to the state of moder music.

Alrowan

11-20-2005, 02:00

meh i listen to new music now, i was just being nostalgic, i still pull out the old reccords from time to time, though today like i said i listen to more melodic forms of metal (i tend to HATE american stuff, its so dull)

GoreBag

11-20-2005, 14:31

(i tend to HATE american stuff, its so dull)

My thoughts toward most of the flower metal coming out of Scandinavia these days.

Alexanderofmacedon

11-21-2005, 23:10

List of 15 favorite bands all you Rock 'n rollers! (no particular order)

1. Metallica
2. Godsmack
3. Disturbed
4. Slipknot
5. Pantera
6. Korn
7. Mudvayne
8. Shadows Fall
9. Rage Against the Machine
10. Nirvana
11. System of a down
12. Alice in Chains
13. The Union Underground
14. Powerman5000
15. Tool

:thrasher:

master of the puppets

11-22-2005, 03:34

1. Metallica
2. Godsmack
3. Disturbed
4. Slipknot
5. Pantera
6. Korn
7. Mudvayne
8. Shadows Fall
9. Rage Against the Machine
10. Nirvana
11. System of a down
12. Alice in Chains
13. The Union Underground
14. Powerman5000
15. Tool

:thrasher:
thats a great list bro, mine is somethin like that except add offspring, and cradle of filth and raise system of a down up a few spaces... never even heard of the last 4.

InsaneApache

11-22-2005, 12:41

Any of you guys heard of these?

http://www.maycontainnutz.com/squirrelpower.php

I post this in the true spirit of '77 Jubilee year...the year punk died.....:jumping: :jumping: ~:mecry:

Alexanderofmacedon

11-22-2005, 23:01

thats a great list bro, mine is somethin like that except add offspring, and cradle of filth and raise system of a down up a few spaces... never even heard of the last 4.

Yeah, uh SOAD is awsome. I said it wasn't in an order, I just started naming my favorite bands. You should look up the last four. They're good...

Powerman5000 - When Worlds Collide

Pretty badass...

Tricon

11-22-2005, 23:14

Alexanderofmacedon

11-22-2005, 23:18

I'm...American...

Add Rammstein for a little German kick? They're pretty good...~:)

Tricon

11-22-2005, 23:27

I'm american too. But my top 15 bands would have ... let me check... three north american, one south american and eleven european bands.
I'm not criticising, btw. It was just the very first impression when I read through that list (now before something says anything, I'm aware of Ssystem of a Downs heritage).

Alexanderofmacedon

11-22-2005, 23:34

List your names of bands then...

P.S: I love your sig. It made me literally LOL

Tricon

11-22-2005, 23:42

Not today. Tomorrow, maybe . Have to leave.
Edit/sigh: Thanks.

Alexanderofmacedon

11-22-2005, 23:43

Mmhmm...

Alrowan

11-22-2005, 23:59

aye a very american list, imo americans make some good music, but they dont have the market set, anyway, heres my top 15 metal bands of all time (in rough order)

1. Metalica
2. Dreamtheater
3. Iron Maiden
4. Opeth
5. Nightwish
6. Sonata Arctica
7. Theron
8. Evergrey
9. Stratovarius
10. Blind Guardian
11. Rammstien
12. Angra
13. Slayer
14. Megadeath
15. Rhapsody

Redleg

11-23-2005, 00:17

Sex Pistols - with the death of Sid Vicous I stopped listening to Punk.

master of the puppets

11-23-2005, 04:07

in no order

mettalica
cradle of filth
offspring
sex pistols
black sabbath
avenged sevenfold
slipknot
korn
disturbed
godsmack
system of a down
mudvayne
nirvana

and quite a few others but i have decided to look up a few of those that i don't know thast u named.

Tricon

11-23-2005, 16:07

Well, here are my favorite 20 metal bands, in no particular order. (Mind that I also like other music, but all in all metal is my favorite)

1. Judas Priest (UK)
2. Rob Zombie (USA)
3. Rammstein (GER)
4. Ensiferum (FIN)
5. Savatage (USA)
6. Megaherz (GER)
7. Iron Maiden (UK)
8. Finntroll (FIN)
9. Type O Negative (USA)
10. Blind Guardian (GER)
11. Paradise Lost (UK)
12. In Extremo (GER)
13. Sepultura (BRA)
14. Angel Dust (USA/GER)
15. Metallica (pre 92)(USA)
16. Tanzwut/Corvus Corax (GER)
17. WASP (USA)
18. Scorpions (pre 86) (GER)
19. Weissglut (only one album that counts...) (GER)
20. Therion (SWE or FIN?)

There are tons of Bands I also like, but these should be the top 20.

Strike For The South

11-23-2005, 17:42

List of 15 favorite bands all you Rock 'n rollers! (no particular order)

1. Metallica
2. Godsmack
:thrasher:

you spit on Metallica by putting Godsmack in the same group. They dont even have lyrics. "As the spider venom enters my veins" WTF Jackass godsmack

GoreBag

11-23-2005, 22:31

Voodoo was the only Godsmack song I didn't hate, actually.

Tricon seems to be the only one here on the right track, but there's too much power in there for me. Where's Spartakus in this thread, anyway?

I don't think I can make a list of 15 of my favourite bands without including some that I won't listen to tomorrow, so I'll have to stick to the timeless ones. In no particular order:

1) Negligent Collateral Collapse (grind - Czechia)
2) Immortal (black - Norway)
3) Absu, especially the Celtic releases (black/thrash - USA[texas])
4) Death's first two albums (death - USA [but Chuck's older brother was in the Scorpions])
5) Finntroll's first two albums (folk - Finland)
6) Akercocke (death - England)
7) Cryptopsy's first two albums (deathgrind - Canada)
8) Nunslaughter (death - USA)
9) Skyforger (folk - Latvia)
10) Vital Remains (death - USA)

Lately, I've been listening to more grind than I know what to do with (Intestinal Disgorge, Torsof***, Lymphatic Phlegm, Goropsy, Catasexual Urge Motivation, Devourment, Dahmer, Anal Blast, Anal Stench and a compilation called I Can't Believe It's not Grindcore), some Turkish BM, some technical death and some traditional metal just to take the edge off.

Tricon

11-23-2005, 23:10

Alexanderofmacedon

11-24-2005, 01:31

you spit on Metallica by putting Godsmack in the same group. They dont even have lyrics. "As the spider venom enters my veins" WTF Jackass godsmack

For one thing, I said no particular order. For another, just because the name is insulting to you doesn't mean they suck. Every song in Their albums are all hits, almost like Rage Against the Machine.

And how do you know about metal, country boy?:duel:

EDIT: Tricon, I'm not really given the oppurtunity to listen to music from other countries (maybe I haven't tried hard enough). Thanks for the list. I have names to look up now.

Strike For The South

11-24-2005, 01:34

Its not there name thats insulting its there music that is. Metallica is a great band godsmack is emokids with tattos. your move boy:duel:

GoreBag

11-24-2005, 09:20

Though I like quite a few death metal songs... it's just thtat. Single songs. If I listen to Akercocke too long(f.e.), it just get's on my nerves... and they're among the most varied death bands out there.

Depends on the album, I'd say. I actually got started on Choronzon (run for Satan!), but at this point, I think Goat of Mendes the best. Rape of the Bastard Nazarene had a different sound to it altogether, although I enjoy it very much.

Alexanderofmacedon

11-24-2005, 16:34

Its not there name thats insulting its there music that is. Metallica is a great band godsmack is emokids with tattos. your move boy:duel:

Please name a few more songs other than Voodoo. I personally didn't like Voodoo as I did some of the other songs. That may be the problem. Also, please tell me the what some of the godsmack songs mean as well as Metallica songs.

Who said guys of Godsmack had tattoos, and do you know what's considered emo nowadays? :duel:

Strike For The South

11-24-2005, 17:06

All there songs sound the same thats another thinig that erks me. Oh and anything musical I dont like is emo or hippidy hop. Its easier to genralize my haterd. In short Id rather listen to Rascal Flatts than godsmack:duel:

master of the puppets

11-24-2005, 18:05

well thats a good philosophy

i hate country, its emo.
i hate death metal, its emo.
i hate emo, its emo.

Strike For The South

11-24-2005, 18:09

you are emo

GoreBag

11-24-2005, 22:33

Hey, guys, which one of us can throw more of our feces at one another?

Alex, Godsmack isn't metal. It's really a no-contest.

Alexanderofmacedon

11-25-2005, 20:15

It's not emo though. It isn't punk either...

I don't know about you, but I'd call it either Alternative or Metal...

Beelzebub

11-25-2005, 21:21

you goth guys should take pics of yourselves and post them here so everyone else can laugh at you.

Moros

11-25-2005, 21:45

Who else should I pretend to be?
maybe you're more from the eighties, new wave?~:)

I listen to al sorts of the more alternative music. tough respect all music when it isn't only made to sell records an easy cover or something wich isn't made with love, emotion and devotion (by the artist that brings it ofcourse.)

Alexanderofmacedon

11-27-2005, 21:54

you goth guys should take pics of yourselves and post them here so everyone else can laugh at you.

...okay...I'm not goth...at all

In fact I'm wearing a polo and cacky shorts...

(disregard this if you weren't talking to me)...~:)

Strike For The South

11-27-2005, 22:02

Ha right now Im wearing my cowboy hat

Beirut

11-27-2005, 22:13

Now, now, gentlemen.

Don't get your purple spiked hair in a twist. Play nice.

master of the puppets

11-27-2005, 22:52

HAHAHAHA, i AM goth, im currently wearing my favorite pants, black with red stitching, studs and chains, a metallica shirt (and justice for all) my mohawk is spiked as i just got back from lounging with my friends, and i have a chain necklace with a padlock showing my entraptment to the mortal world and the rest of you commoners. all shall bask in my glory. hahaha *in a flash fire erupts from the floor and consumed the dark lord master of the puppets and so he dissapeared with a screech like the clash of swords leaving only the smell of fresh blood and brimstone.*