Hot for Teacher

[ichi]

CBS/AP) A female teacher pleaded guilty Tuesday to having sex with a 14-year-old student, avoiding prison as part of a plea agreement.

Debra Lafave, 25, whose sensational case made tabloid headlines, will serve three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery.

The former Greco Middle School reading teacher apologized during the hearing, saying "I accept full responsibility for my actions."

The boy told investigators the two had sex in a classroom at the Greco school, located in Temple Terrace near Tampa, in her Riverview town house and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove them around Marion County.

The boy told investigators Lafave told him her marriage was in trouble and that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allowed. He said he and Lafave, a newlywed at the time, got to know each other on their way back from a class trip to SeaWorld Orlando in May 2004.

If convicted at trial, she could have faced up to 15 years in prison on each count. The plea agreement also was designed to resolve similar charges pending in Marion County.

Hillsborough Circuit Judge Wayne Timmerman said LaFave also will forever lose her teaching certificate, must register with the state as a sexual predator, may not have any contact with children including the victim, and will not be allowed to profit from the sale of her story or personal appearances.

Prosecutor Michael Sinacore said the young victim's family wanted to get the case over with because of the intense public and media scrutiny.

"We're happy that the victim's family can put this case behind them," he said. "The whole process has been very difficult, and we hope they can now resume their lives."

After Tuesday's hearing, her attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said the plea was "a fair resolution of this case." Asked how she felt afterward, Lafave said "tired."

Fitzgibbons said in July that plea negotiations had broken off because prosecutors insisted on prison time, which he said would be too dangerous for someone as attractive as Lafave. He said then that she planned to plead insanity at trial, claiming emotional stress kept her from knowing right from wrong.

In August, Lafave's ex-husband, Owen Lafave, discussed the situation (video) with co-anchor Julie Chen on The Early Show, along with Dr. Julia Hislop, a clinical psychologist and author of the book "Female Sex Offenders."

Lafave said his ex-wife had never told him why she (allegedly) did it "and that's one of the hardest things that I've had to go through, is that I've never received a reason why."

He said "hindsight is 20-20. I can look back now and see some things that were peculiar about her behavior. But I had no idea anything like this was going on."


Clearly there is a disparity in the justice system between what happens to a woman who has sex with underage boys, and when men get caught doing it with young girls.

Is this justified?

I'll leave you with some Van Halen


Hot For Teacher

Written by:
Edward Van Halen, David Lee Roth,
Michael Anthony, Alex Van Halen.
© 1983 Van Halen Music ASCAP.
All Rights Reserved.
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"Oh wow, man !"
"Wait a second man. Whaddaya think the teacher's gonna look like this year ?"
"My butt, man !"
T-T-Teacher stop that screaming, teacher don't you see ?
Don't wanna be no uptown fool.
Maybe I should go to hell, but I'm doin' well,
teacher needs to see me after school.

I think of all the education that I missed.
But then my homework was never quite like this.
Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad,
I'm hot for teacher.
I got it bad, so bad,
I'm hot for teacher.

"Hey, I heard you missed us, we're back !"
"I brought my pencil"
"Gimme something to write on, man"

I heard about your lessons, but lessons are so cold.
I know about this school.
Little girl from cherry lane, how did you get so bold ?
How did you know that golden rule ?

"Oh man, I think the clock is slow"
"I don't feel tardy"
"Class dismissed"

ichi:bow:

[Ja'chyra]

Asked how she felt afterward, Lafave said "tired."

~:joker:

[English assassin]

Fitzgibbons said in July that plea negotiations had broken off because prosecutors insisted on prison time, which he said would be too dangerous for someone as attractive as Lafave.

WTF? I mean, I know we idolise physical attractiveness in the west but now it means you don't have to go to jail ???

And also, why have no pictures been posted?

Edit: here we go. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051123/ap_on_re_us/teacher_sex I think they could have risked jail myself.

[Ja'chyra]

WTF? I mean, I know we idolise physical attractiveness in the west but now it means you don't have to go to jail ???

And also, why have no pictures been posted?

Edit: here we go. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051123/ap_on_re_us/teacher_sex I think they could have risked jail myself.

Being blonde doesn't make you pretty as this picture proves.


He said then that she planned to plead insanity at trial, claiming emotional stress kept her from knowing right from wrong.

Lol, if that would have worked there's got to be something wrong with the system.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Did this defense lawyer take some kind of optional module in law school on how to take the piss utterly?

Too attractive to go to prison?! Emotional stress? What a lot of cack.

[Ser Clegane]

Perhaps a new line needs to be added to the old "Right Says Fred" song

I'm to sexy for the prison, too sexy for the jail

~:rolleyes:

[lugh]

Clearly there is a disparity in the justice system between what happens to a woman who has sex with underage boys, and when men get caught doing it with young girls.
Clearly there is.
I can't remember the details but to give the gist of another example of this.
A businessman was arrested charged etc for comntempt in an investigation into various shady dealings, he wouldn't answer q's, being evasive etc (Tribesman might know, thought it was Liam Lawlor). Anyway, long story short, it was a white collar crime in an investigation into white collar crime.
After being charged and sententenced he's half-dragged out of court in handcuffs and conveniently displayed for the baying public and media.

Sams court, same gardai court officers on duty, a week later. A woman is tried and convicted of stabbing a man to death. They'd been in the pub, she went back to his place and when she wouldn't put out, he told her to leave, she admitted he wasn't threatening etc etc. She went nuts and amongst other things stabbed him in the groin a half dozen times.
She'd led out uncuffed by two nice petite female gardai, allowed to cover her face so she isn't photgraphed etc.
The reprorter when he was able to track down the senior officer, asked what was the reason for the disparity was told, that she was a woman, end of story.

Deadly killer vs Tax evader, clearly the evil man is more dangerous.~:confused:

[Prodigal]

"...three years of house arrest..."

Lets just hope the courts don't figure out that that kind of sentence actually has a certain amount of appeal.

[Devastatin Dave]

I still can't believe that she wasn't truelly punished. Then again, this is not really a new phenominom. I remember this sort of thing going on when i was in school. But if it was a male teacher and a female student, then action would be taken. If it was a case like this, there would be a few laughs, maybe the teacher would be moved to another school, that was about as harsh of a penalty there would be.

This is the flavor of the month news when it should be in the "Dear Penthouse" section of a skin mag...

[InsaneApache]

*sigh* ....takes me back to 1st form and the fantasies we had about a certain Miss Boulanger, the French mistress, (who was actually from Wigan ~:eek: )...like dropping pencils on the floor so as we picked them up we could see what colour knickers she was wearing...oh the joys of youth... *sigh*....(now she actually was both blond and very, very beautiful...well the Art master thought so, he always took her to the pub in his Morris Minor van, even though it was only 100 yards away ~D )

[English assassin]

Did this defense lawyer take some kind of optional module in law school on how to take the piss utterly?

This is actually part of the core curriculum rather than an optional module, just for the record.

[lancelot]

What a wate of time.

So a kid got laid, good on him, I wish I was doin some of my teachers at that age!

He is probably king of the school and loved every second of it! "victim" indeed..~:rolleyes:

[BDC]

What a wate of time.

So a kid got laid, good on him, I wish I was doin some of my teachers at that age!

He is probably king of the school and loved every second of it! "victim" indeed..~:rolleyes:
It's a little pathetic really...

[master of the puppets]

...wait the kid told on her (WTH), what was he not happy with the engagement?

[King Henry V]

Sentences for women having sex with underage boys will never be the same as sentences for men having sex with underage girls, because boys cannot really be raped by women, and boys tend to seek sex and enjoy it more than girls.

[Sjakihata]

boys tend to seek sex and enjoy it more than girls.


Yeah right... ~:rolleyes:

[King Henry V]

Err, yes. If an attractive woman offers sex to a boy on a plate, he is more likely to accept than if a man did to a girl. Girls have more modesty on the whole, since Nature programmes them that because girls are the ones who carry children.

[Soulforged]

Clearly there is a disparity in the justice system between what happens to a woman who has sex with underage boys, and when men get caught doing it with young girls.
Is this justified?
I'll leave you with some Van HalenAs ridicolous as it appears to be there are a few thesis out there treating this subject. In short they state that the woman feels this kind of straight rape as an actual violation to their freedom, but the man generally feels less "violated" or even greatful. Seriously is a hard subject, but I'll remain with this thesis, as long as it's straight, because homosexual sex will bring other problems into the picture.

By the way you should have posted a pic of the female for us to look, and see
if justice has been made...~;)

[ichi]

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2004/06/29/teacher-sex.jpg

[hellenes]

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2004/06/29/teacher-sex.jpg

PLEASE RAPE ME I WONT TELL!!!!!!!
~D ~D ~D ~D

On a serious side I agree with the original poster, its an ongoing DISCRIMINATION against males and one democratic society should allow this to happen.

Hellenes

[Major Robert Dump]

I had sex with my teacher when I was in high school. After my butt healed I did it again.

[Soulforged]

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2004/06/29/teacher-sex.jpg
Sir Justice has been done...~:eek:

Seriously I don't think that this kind of rape is going anywhere with conviction...Well I already stated my position.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2004/06/29/teacher-sex.jpg
No wonder why she got off so easy for Stat. Rape.

[solypsist]

stupid kid probably too young to appreciate what he had. he will, in a few years when he's married to a woman with two chins. then he'll get a serious case of nostalgia.

[English assassin]

Sorry guys, the undernourished white trash look isn't big is Assassinland.

Anyways, the point is that at 14 he is legally incapable of giving a valid consent. The fact that he did consent is irrelevant to the crime, just as it would have been if the gender roles were reversed. (As they easily could be, anyone who thinks there are 14 year old girls who aren't up for hitting on teacher doesn't know much about school).

The difference is that a man would get, what, 5-8 years?

I can't say I really care, but if it was the other way round we'd be hearing all about it from the feminist op-ed writers.

[lugh]

boys tend to seek sex and enjoy it more than girls.Yeah, and they also suffer envy because they beleive they're essentially castrated men. Christ, this kind of idiocy belongs in the 19th C.
women are just as sexual as men, if not more so.

The arguement has nothing to do with rape but I've something to say about that anyway. You could justify higher sentenences for male rapists since it usually involves a much higher level of physical force, ie a raped woman is generally physically harmed, a man, less so, though he still suffers the same mental and emotional trauma.

The point is, all other things being equal, a male teacher who had consensual sex with a 14 year old, would be put away. It's that simple.

[Byzantine Prince]

stupid kid probably too young to appreciate what he had. he will, in a few years when he's married to a woman with two chins. then he'll get a serious case of nostalgia.
Yeah he should have thanked his lucky stars a woman like that even looks at him. He had to go and tell on her, tsssk.

I wish I had been "raped" like this by a teacher that hott when I was 14, what's wrong with these people?!?!

[King Henry V]

Yeah, and they also suffer envy because they beleive they're essentially castrated men. Christ, this kind of idiocy belongs in the 19th C.
women are just as sexual as men, if not more so.

And that is just a load of "all sexes are equal" twoddle. Why do you think men are those who ask the women to go out with them and not the other way around? Why do you think there are far many more female prostitutes than male ones (males for women of course)?

[Dîn-Heru]

And that is just a load of "all sexes are equal" twoddle. Why do you think men are those who ask the women to go out with them and not the other way around? Why do you think there are far many more female prostitutes than male ones (males for women of course)?

Because that is what society expect..? ~;p

Edit: Wrong smiley

[King Henry V]

No, because the man is by nature the hunter, the one who seeks sex. Women can go for longer without sex than men.

[yesdachi]

I was having sex when I was 14, but not with a 25 year old. But I did have a teacher that was smoking hot and she was rumored to have been having sex with a senior, she was quietly gone one day, everyone knew why but no charges were ever made. That’s how this should have been handled, quietly, because it its not that big a deal.~:)

[doc_bean]

And that is just a load of "all sexes are equal" twoddle. Why do you think men are those who ask the women to go out with them and not the other way around? Why do you think there are far many more female prostitutes than male ones (males for women of course)?

Because pretty much any woman can get laid pretty much anytime she wants FOR FREE.

And you probably haven't read the frontroom thread about how people met their partner, pretty much all relationships were initiated by the woman, and it's pretty much the same in real life, as I've noticed.

Women might have more restraint, not necessarily less desire.:bow:

[ichi]

Women can go for longer without sex than men.

and, most women can go longer during sex than men

ichi:bow:

[Moros]

I've read that a woman's orgasm can last max. for 53-56 seconds ~:eek: while a man can barely get to 13 seconds!

[Viking]

...because boys cannot really be raped by women..

Actually, most recently a women got punished(don`t remember the penalty) for raping a man while he was asleep. It was historic though; first time ever in Norwegian history.


I was having sex when I was 14, but not with a 25 year old. But I did have a teacher that was smoking hot and she was rumored to have been having sex with a senior, she was quietly gone one day, everyone knew why but no charges were ever made. That’s how this should have been handled, quietly, because it its not that big a deal.

It might be difficult to tell when it is a big deal and when it isn`t, when it is an abuse and when it isn`t.


Another image:

https://img492.imageshack.us/img492/4076/sdg2mg.jpg

Ice cold eyes. ~:cool:

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Actually, most recently a women got punished(don`t remember the penalty) for raping a man while he was asleep. It was historic though; first time ever in Norwegian history.



It might be difficult to tell when it is a big deal and when it isn`t, when it is an abuse and when it isn`t.


Another image:

https://img492.imageshack.us/img492/4076/sdg2mg.jpg

Ice cold eyes. ~:cool:

Too much makeup, and she looks like this girl in my German class. The annoying one who likes (c)rap and basketball. Ugh.

[King Henry V]

Is it me or have I seen this case? I seem to remember her and the argument "She's too pretty to go to prison".

[ah_dut]

Yes, that silly argument was put forward by some nutjob. And she isn't that hot...not that I wouldn't turn her down but...

Anyways, it's quite an emotional issue. Obviously other people have outlined the male teacher does female student and the outrage we'd get out of that...