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Strike For The South
11-26-2005, 06:17
wow look at how angry some of our more respectable members were~;p http://web.archive.org/web/20010427043215/www.totalwar.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000383.html
Kaiser of Arabia
11-26-2005, 06:33
heh.
Go back to about my join date and see the most high quality backroom flame wars I can remember!
solypsist
11-26-2005, 06:38
holy cow that's back when Tosa was still a regular user.
the index:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010417193310/www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Off-Topic&number=6&DaysPrune=45&LastLogin=
note: i certainly seemed happier back then :(
Gregoshi
11-26-2005, 06:48
Yeah, but that was almost 7000 posts ago soly.~:)
Tachikaze
11-26-2005, 08:34
Check out "Freedom of the Press -- what's it to you?" by Mariko. We were still trying to figure out Idaho's gender. This must have been before he displayed pictures of him with his new baby.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010427014148/www.totalwar.org/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000377.html
ShaiHulud
Obake
Tenchimuyo
FWSeal
JayDee Daidoji
Kurando
ShadowKill
candidgamera
Anssi Hakkinen
Mariko
It's been a long time.
Speaking of a long time and post numbers. I'm at 2,993!
Dutch_guy
11-26-2005, 15:36
Certainly seems to me as though the quality has risen.
that was my initial thought too.
:balloon2:
Byzantine Prince
11-26-2005, 15:53
You guys should look up the flame wars that I had with Hosakawa and Gregoshi. Now those were some ANGRY debates. ~:eek:
Ser Clegane
11-26-2005, 16:07
Anybody remember Pretz?
Now, that was a really angry person...
EDIT: It's a good idea to correctly spell the words you emphasize...
Tachikaze
11-26-2005, 18:25
The most angry response I ever got was from a post that I didn't feel was very controversial. I said that I didn't want the US to be the most powerful country in the world (or I wished it weren't or something). I got burning responses from a few young guys whose names I can't remember. But I think ShingenMitch2 was one of them.
Blimey, you can see some of my hardcore, early spammer days in some of those threads. Brings back memories - not all good!
_________posts thread - *cringes*
~:eek:
Big King Sanctaphrax
11-26-2005, 18:37
Woah, Idaho seems...different in that thread. How things change.
Who was admin at that point?
Gregoshi
11-26-2005, 18:41
Anybody remember Pretz?
Now, that was a really angy person...
Ser, I'd rather forget about Pretz (and Ghost of Pretz). He was a master at baiting too (the word association not intended but...)
BP, those weren't flame wars in my eyes. ~:)
master of the puppets
11-26-2005, 18:41
wow, i know noone, how sad, i wonder what the org will look like in 4 more years, hell i might be like TosaInu (god forbid)lol, but look at how many people have come and gone, wished i'de been there but i'd be 11 at the time so wouldnt understand any of it.
Woah, Idaho seems...different in that thread. How things change.
Who was admin at that point?
I believe it was Tera or Anssi at that point, but I might be wrong.
Strike For The South
11-26-2005, 18:47
aw looky there *Puts out respect knuckles for JAG*
Tachikaze
11-26-2005, 18:49
To get an idea of how much JAG spammed then, it wasn't long after that that he surpassed 3000 posts. I have yet to do that now, although this post brings me within five.
Woah, Idaho seems...different in that thread. How things change.
Who was admin at that point?
I was?
I probably was. The board was a little different back then. Not better, not worse. I am not one who hankers for golden ages in the past. There was a little more middle ground for debate and people tended to argue from all sides, with people switching around on different points. One strong trend, and a negative one, in the last 2 or 3 years has been the 'staunch conservative' poster. Someone who comes on the board with the intention of being a 'conservative' in everything and having that as their entire identity and source of opinions.
This trend has also meant that there is a deliberate attempt to create two groups on the board - them and us. Which in turn impacts how friendly the place is.
_Martyr_
11-26-2005, 19:03
Nostalgia just aint what it used to be! ~:mecry: ~:rolleyes: ~;)
Meneldil
11-26-2005, 19:26
I don't think things got better, from the little I read in the archive. Although, yeah, it looked like there's was no strict border between Conservatives and Liberals.
Anyway, Idaho's post was hilarious ~D
Reverend Joe
11-26-2005, 20:23
:stunned: Wow... things really have changed...
I mean, I have "been around" since December of 2003- I was a lurker until March '05- but even since then, I have not seen this much change. Damn.
Devastatin Dave
11-26-2005, 20:30
Good stuff...:bow:
Mouzafphaerre
11-26-2005, 20:30
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History of ancient ORGAHs. :book2:
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Geoffrey S
11-26-2005, 21:31
Posts look longer among a wider amount of posters, though not necessarily cohesive.
doc_bean
11-26-2005, 21:48
Jesus - who needs him?
US citizens - Are they all dumb or just some?
Global Warming - What a joke
Some topics go waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back it seems ~D
Sasaki Kojiro
11-26-2005, 23:29
I like the "what do you run shogun with" thread:
"Dell Dimension 233 mHz
64 mb RAM
12 gig HD
Voodoo 3000 w/ 8mb VRAM (?)
17" monitor"
Gregoshi
11-26-2005, 23:31
Welcome to Terassic Park...
Park Curator: We clocked JAG at 35 posts per day back then.
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New Patron: They're moving in clans. They do move in clans.
Byzantine Prince
11-27-2005, 00:06
BP, those weren't flame wars in my eyes. ~:)
Then what the hell are flame wars then,?!?!?! JESUS!
Gregoshi
11-27-2005, 04:51
You never insulted me that I recall BP and if I ever insulted you it was not intentional. Our "flame war" as you put it was simply a matter of reaching an understanding about forum conduct. Besides, wasn't most of it via PM anyway? ~:pat:
To get an idea of how much JAG spammed then, it wasn't long after that that he surpassed 3000 posts. I have yet to do that now, although this post brings me within five.
Within 3 ~;)
There have been some fairly heated discussions in here over the years, still too bad when things get personal. We're at our best when we debate the issues (and don't forget the totally hilarious crap that is brought in every day so we don't have to search all over the web)
ichi:bow:
I was?
I probably was. The board was a little different back then. Not better, not worse. I am not one who hankers for golden ages in the past. There was a little more middle ground for debate and people tended to argue from all sides, with people switching around on different points. One strong trend, and a negative one, in the last 2 or 3 years has been the 'staunch conservative' poster. Someone who comes on the board with the intention of being a 'conservative' in everything and having that as their entire identity and source of opinions.
This trend has also meant that there is a deliberate attempt to create two groups on the board - them and us. Which in turn impacts how friendly the place is.
I've noticed that also, makes for bickering instead of debate, IMHAMO
ichi:bow:
Tachikaze
11-27-2005, 09:17
I can't believe ichi is at the same post count.
Tachikaze
11-27-2005, 09:25
With this post, I beat ichi to 3000. Whew, I can't let a relative newcomer beat me!
rasoforos
11-27-2005, 11:40
I was?
One strong trend, and a negative one, in the last 2 or 3 years has been the 'staunch conservative' poster. Someone who comes on the board with the intention of being a 'conservative' in everything and having that as their entire identity and source of opinions.
This trend has also meant that there is a deliberate attempt to create two groups on the board - them and us. Which in turn impacts how friendly the place is.
Spot on. I remember the .Org as being less refined but we didnt have this conservative nonsence. People had oppinions and they didnt just recite what they heard on Fox fiction.
It certainly gets boring when the only debate you get comes from a propaganda oppinion that will not budge.
Also Nazis, Fascists, people who think that a woman is the animal most close to man ~:joker: , and people who would just insult you knowing that they can afford a warning or two, were not as 'entitled to have their oppinion' as they later became.
Back then you could say @#$% and $%#%^$#@& and also if you were lucky you could even get away with $#$^$&* as long as you didnt try to insult someone. Now it seems that only personal insults are allowed somehow...
Maybe I just remember the good stuff but I used to enjoy it more back then...
It certainly wasn't better back then. I think I remember the reason I was posting. The only topics at that time were links to comedy stories, endless tedious in jokes or nattering about sports.
These days, perhaps as a reflection of the times, the topics are a lot more heavyweight.
Tachikaze
11-27-2005, 17:59
It certainly wasn't better back then. I think I remember the reason I was posting. The only topics at that time were links to comedy stories, endless tedious in jokes or nattering about sports.
These days, perhaps as a reflection of the times, the topics are a lot more heavyweight.
That might also be a result of the splitting of the Off Topic forum into political and nonpolitical forums (Front Room & Back Room).
The gun threads might have been a kind of turning point as well.
solypsist
11-27-2005, 19:24
the org was one of my first forums, so a lot of time (and posts) were spent on adapting to the online world. i think the gun threads were the turning point, too. that was when partisan hackery emerged and the knee-jerk reaction to it began replacing singular ideas.
the other difference, is that there was a good mix of frivolous threads mixed in with serious ones. i haven't had a good laugh in the backroom since it seperated, and this carries over to the overall tone of the room as a whole. plus seeing all those retired names just brought back simple memories.
Seamus Fermanagh
11-27-2005, 22:17
Spot on. I remember the .Org as being less refined but we didnt have this conservative nonsence. People had oppinions and they didnt just recite what they heard on Fox fiction.
It certainly gets boring when the only debate you get comes from a propaganda oppinion that will not budge....
On a forum dedicated to a series of games called "X: Total War" you were surprised by the appearance of conservative voices?~:confused:
~D Quit your teasin'!
Geoffrey S
11-27-2005, 22:26
It certainly wasn't better back then. I think I remember the reason I was posting. The only topics at that time were links to comedy stories, endless tedious in jokes or nattering about sports.
These days, perhaps as a reflection of the times, the topics are a lot more heavyweight.
Yet also more factionalist. With quite a few members it's too easy to predict where they'll stand on most given issues, and who they'll end up bickering with as a result. At least that rarely carries over into other subjects.
With this post, I beat ichi to 3000. Whew, I can't let a relative newcomer beat me!
ahead by a nose (for what its worth!)
ichi:bow:
Kaiser of Arabia
11-28-2005, 02:11
*beats you both*
octavian
11-28-2005, 02:28
Nostalgia just aint what it used to be! ~:mecry: ~:rolleyes: ~;)
rofl that made me laugh soo hard
On reflection allowing the formation of the "clubs" within the forum was probably a divisive mistake, though the old gun threads were a precursor to what we have now.
On reflection allowing the formation of the "clubs" within the forum was probably a divisive mistake, though the old gun threads were a precursor to what we have now.
I did say - almost constantly - at the time they were made...
Though Idaho is also completely right with his post before of how we became so devisive. funnily enough it was the Conservative posters that started the whole club thing as well.
Papewaio
11-28-2005, 06:46
I wonder where Khan7 is now?
He was a conservative, got on with him on some topics, polar opposites on others.
Didn't he go psyops or something?
The first of the 'conservative' posters was called something like Takedashiso or some such. He started the trend of answering every thread with a lengthy cut and paste from one of his approved sources.
There has always been posters who are American conservatives without having to make this some form of doctrinal religion (Redleg, Shaihulud). The current trend to say I am a conservative this, conservative that, this is the way a conservative would pick their nose, etc, seems to be a feature of american culture at the moment.
King Edward
11-28-2005, 19:12
Its good to see a lot of people are still here from those early days, this must be a good place!!
I've ben away a while and i see Gregoshi is no longer a mod ~:eek: what happend there?
And also did i see Soly back in the robes??
Might have to show my face a bit more ofter ~D to keep up on current affairs!
t1master
11-28-2005, 22:17
/misses the clan wars.... ~;)
Kaiser of Arabia
11-29-2005, 00:37
Spot on. I remember the .Org as being less refined but we didnt have this conservative nonsence. People had oppinions and they didnt just recite what they heard on Fox fiction.
Heh, must have been nice with just the people reciting what they read in Al Franken or Michael Moore books, huh? ~:)
The first of the 'conservative' posters was called something like Takedashiso or some such. He started the trend of answering every thread with a lengthy cut and paste from one of his approved sources.
I believe you might be correct - he was around when I first started to post. I sort of stayed away from to many online discussions while I was in the miltary.
There has always been posters who are American conservatives without having to make this some form of doctrinal religion (Redleg, Shaihulud). The current trend to say I am a conservative this, conservative that, this is the way a conservative would pick their nose, etc, seems to be a feature of american culture at the moment.
Shaihulud was much better at it then I - I have a tendency to be to stubborn and hard head on a few topics. :knight:
Devastatin Dave
11-29-2005, 03:31
I believe everything went completely down hill when I came on. Look at the dates...
I joined in 2002. I've beened banned several times and have caused so many problems here. And judging from the posts here, it doesn't seem to be as great of a place as it use to be because of people like me that have conservative tendancies...
Well I can't post a poll for some reason (and if this can be fixed could a mod hook me up?)so I encourage one of you old guys, especially Idaho, JAG, or Tachi (because of my deep respect you wither of you), to post a poll for me, and I don't want the poll locked or deleted. The question should be, "Should Devastatin Dave be banned in order to make the Tavern to what it use to be".
I'm dead serious about this. I've had polls for my new name, my avatar, now i want one that the entire Tavern has a democratic choice for my future. I believe that this could be the first step to cleaning up the place. Then you can use the same operation for other cancers that reside here.
I want this, so please someone give me this poll.
When the poll has been up for 7 days after its posted and the votes come out in favor of my banning, then I will have Tosa delete my account. I really want this, so please someone, make it happen. Its my early Christmas present to all of you.:bow:
God Bless America and President George W Bush, the most powerful man in the world!!! Oh and special blessings to Fox News and Anne Coulter.:hide:
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-29-2005, 04:15
Sorry Dave, only coal for you!
Or maybe oil... ~;)
Stupid conservative neanderthals. ~D
Devastatin Dave
11-29-2005, 05:29
Sorry Dave, only coal for you!
Or maybe oil... ~;)
Stupid conservative neanderthals. ~D
Oil please, but only if its been bought by the blood of mercanary crusaders. ~D
Tachikaze
11-29-2005, 07:39
I believe everything went completely down hill when I came on. Look at the dates...
I joined in 2002. I've beened banned several times and have caused so many problems here. And judging from the posts here, it doesn't seem to be as great of a place as it use to be because of people like me that have conservative tendancies...
Well I can't post a poll for some reason (and if this can be fixed could a mod hook me up?)so I encourage one of you old guys, especially Idaho, JAG, or Tachi (because of my deep respect you wither of you), to post a poll for me, and I don't want the poll locked or deleted.
It goes without saying that the Org was a utopian paradise before you came and polluted it with your conservative, profane filth. But I actually read most of your posts—even if I do regret it afterwards.:flowers:
I would make a poll for you, but I don't believe in democracy.
Papewaio
11-29-2005, 08:23
If you want good roses be prepared to shovel a lot of manure.
Ser Clegane
11-29-2005, 09:11
Well I can't post a poll for some reason (and if this can be fixed could a mod hook me up?)
You have to create a new thread (the separate "start new poll" option does not exist any more).
On the bottom of the screen for the new thread you will find a menu for "Additional Options" (you might have to open this menu with the arrows on the bottom right).
In this menu you will find the option to add a poll.
Hope this helps (sorry, I'm to lazy right now to post screenies to accompany the instructions ~D )
P.S.: I do not think that the poll you have in mind would make too much sense, but you are of course free to post it :bow:
Mouzafphaerre
11-29-2005, 12:42
Its good to see a lot of people are still here from those early days, this must be a good place!!
I've ben away a while and i see Gregoshi is no longer a mod ~:eek: what happend there?
And also did i see Soly back in the robes??
Might have to show my face a bit more ofter ~D to keep up on current affairs!
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Nice to see you back around. :medievalcheers:
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It goes without saying that the Org was a utopian paradise before you came and polluted it with your conservative, profane filth. But I actually read most of your posts—even if I do regret it afterwards.:flowers:
I would make a poll for you, but I don't believe in democracy.
I was sure I posted an answer to this already....
anyway - kind of kills the timing.
You're alright Dave, what you lose by being a total loon, you make up for by being funny, and occassionally warm-hearted ~:)
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