View Full Version : Yet another idea...
Mouzafphaerre
11-27-2005, 01:22
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Not many will like this but some certainly will. Just off the top of my head.
How about setting the Tavern (Frontroom and Backroom) so that new posts won't increase postcounts, as it is here at the Watchtower? ~;) :evil:
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IrishMike
11-27-2005, 04:14
I like that idea. Sets the focus on help people and posting info about the games, which is the main purpose of this forum. But what does post count really matter?
Strike For The South
11-27-2005, 04:25
good idea~:cheers:
Kaiser of Arabia
11-27-2005, 04:33
no.
Productivity
11-27-2005, 06:35
Good idea.
Byzantine Prince
11-27-2005, 07:22
That's a good idea. I wish my postcount wasn't so high. ~:mecry:
m52nickerson
11-27-2005, 08:51
I don't like it. Its not like post count mean alot on this forum. So who cares if you have 10 or 1000? It is a least a way to know about how much of your life has been spent on here.
Mouzafphaerre
11-27-2005, 11:24
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It would be a precaution against who think postcount matters. :evil:
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I agree. It's a good idea. Much better than the karma one.
Geoffrey S
11-27-2005, 11:37
I quite like the idea; perhaps it'd mean newcomers can tell who is more experienced when it comes to TW as then only the actual TW parts of the site update the postcount.
Kagemusha
11-27-2005, 12:08
I wonder would it be good to get rid of the whole postcount?:bow:
Mouzafphaerre
11-27-2005, 12:36
I wonder would it be good to get rid of the whole postcount?:bow:
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Nope. It feels missing. I know it from other fora.
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Mikeus Caesar
11-27-2005, 12:55
I wonder would it be good to get rid of the whole postcount?:bow:
No, without your post count, you almost feel....naked.
That's a good idea. I wish my postcount wasn't so high. ~:mecry:
It can be reset for only 10 goldpieces.
hmmm.. Tosa how come you're back at 44? resetting your own postcount? :inquisitive: ('daar zit een luchtje aan~D')
anyways... this is a great idea I think. it's the only way to prevent frontroom spam I guess. I hope this idea is used.
oh but what will we do with 'one word story' etc? everybody posting +0 there when this idea is used?~:joker:
+0 ~:)
Just A Girl
11-27-2005, 15:31
I like the idea,
I also like the no post count idea,
then again I also think Good and bad post counts are a good idea.
2 post counts under your name 1 good 1 bad
The bad post count could be attached to these Report bad post buttons,
This would probably mean more work for the mods though.
But it would mean you can easily see the % of bad posts a member makes.
Maby it would help people Think before they post
Byzantine Prince
11-27-2005, 16:49
It can be reset for only 10 goldpieces.
I don't know what the hell a goldpiece is. ~:mecry:
On a side note could you imagine the spammers going from 4,000 to a post count of like 14 after this is done. ~:joker:
Dutch_guy
11-27-2005, 17:33
I like the idea,
I also like the no post count idea,
then again I also think Good and bad post counts are a good idea.
2 post counts under your name 1 good 1 bad
The bad post count could be attached to these Report bad post buttons,
This would probably mean more work for the mods though.
But it would mean you can easily see the % of bad posts a member makes.
Maby it would help people Think before they post
I like this idea, as for no postcount...
The frontroom will die out in no-time.
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Ser Clegane
11-27-2005, 17:55
I don't think that removing the postcount for the Tavern would really solve any problems.
As long as there is a postcount and people have the feeling that high postcount is equivalent to some kind of higher status you will have spam.
If you remove postcount from the Front- and Backroom, people who are keen on having a high postcount will try to get it elsewhere and will clutter the TW-related threads ... not sure if this is something we desire.
If you want to get rid of spamming to increase postcount, then remove the postcount altogether.
then again I also think Good and bad post counts are a good idea.
2 post counts under your name 1 good 1 bad
The bad post count could be attached to these Report bad post buttons,
This would probably mean more work for the mods though.
But it would mean you can easily see the % of bad posts a member makes.
Interesting approach, but not really feasible IMHO. Who will decide what qualifies as a "bad" post?
Other patrons by reporting? I think it's not very hard to imagine the "fun" that would lead to...
The moderators? I don't assume that a lot of patrons would appreciate being micro-managed by the moderators in such a way (also, we already have enough complaints about perceived bias - I don't think that having moderators rate posts would be a got move)
Mouzafphaerre
11-27-2005, 18:55
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If you remove postcount from the Front- and Backroom, people who are keen on having a high postcount will try to get it elsewhere and will clutter the TW-related threads ... not sure if this is something we desire.
I beg to disagree. Moderate as strictly as eg. Beirut, BKS or kekvit do (or Gregoshi used to do); deliver warnings and other stuff more generously to spammers and don't reset them and you won't have any spam anywhere.
Postcount itself isn't evil. It's sort of a part of your identity, along with the join date, as long as the two are proportional. ~;)
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I beg to disagree. Moderate as strictly as eg. Beirut, BKS or kekvit do (or Gregoshi used to do); deliver warnings and other stuff more generously to spammers and don't reset them and you won't have any spam anywhere.
Postcount itself isn't evil. It's sort of a part of your identity, along with the join date, as long as the two are proportional. ~;)
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I agree with Mouzafphaerre. If they spam in other forums you could reset their postcount as penalty..
Mikeus Caesar
11-27-2005, 20:06
On a side note could you imagine the spammers going from 4,000 to a post count of like 14 after this is done. ~:joker:
I have the feeling my post count would be cut in half....
The Stranger
11-28-2005, 17:14
bad bad bad bad idea...it comes straight from the devil...bad bad bad bad devil...bad bad bad Mouzafphaerre
you know why....HARDCORE SPAMMERS LIKE ME DONT SPAM FOR THE POSTCOUNT BUT FOR FUN REGCOGNITION AND THE SPAMEMPEROR (WHICH IS ME)
The Stranger
11-28-2005, 17:19
the only thing that helps is a 15 minute floodcontrol...as i sadly experienced :S
Reverend Joe
11-28-2005, 18:08
Emperor, (sorry- Stranger)
"good" spammers- i.e. thinking spammers, who spam for fun and/or recognition (I personally do it for fun... this place needs some livening up sometimes) do, indeed, follow your guidelines. However, "bad" spammers, i.e. leetists and other internet freaks, spam for postcount and prestige, and these are the spammers that cause problems. Not that "good" spammers do; it's just that they are less problematic. It is like comparing the mid-50's biker gangs, who were just minor hoodlums, but generally friendly guys, to the Hell's Angels style bikers- the rather brutal, Vietnam-vet nutcases. The Hell's Angels spammers make the internet a less fun and friendly place.
Also, this is not a very good idea- there are some people, such as me, who only post in a few forums, and usually in the Tavern- for me, it is only EB and the Tavern. So cutting out posts for the tavern would be frivolous, because the Tavern is really sort of our home; it is where everybody we know hangs around, and we aren't going to post elsewhere more because we don't get "counted" for it.
bad bad bad bad idea...it comes straight from the devil...bad bad bad bad devil...bad bad bad Mouzafphaerre
you know why....HARDCORE SPAMMERS LIKE ME DONT SPAM FOR THE POSTCOUNT BUT FOR FUN REGCOGNITION AND THE SPAMEMPEROR (WHICH IS ME)
Heh, you missed the Spamfest wher I raisd my postcount with 162 posts in a couple of hours. That`s hardcore..
It can be reset for only 10 goldpieces.
Heres 2gold pieces:2cents: Now you only need 8 more
Sounds great to me
Postcount + 0
Just A Girl
11-28-2005, 20:51
INSERT MY INITIAL QUOTE HERE
Interesting approach, but not really feasible IMHO. Who will decide what qualifies as a "bad" post?
Other patrons by reporting? I think it's not very hard to imagine the "fun" that would lead to...
The moderators? I don't assume that a lot of patrons would appreciate being micro-managed by the moderators in such a way (also, we already have enough complaints about perceived bias - I don't think that having moderators rate posts would be a got move)
its this report bad post button.
its already here. And its already used.
Some 1 already must go decide whats right n whats wrong.
All i sudgest is that you get a little red post count for all of the posts that have been deemed bad.
I can see how It may lead to more work With people Having a Day out on the report bad post button.
but its already there so it cant be that bad.
Prehaps the org Could try a few of the Ideas out on a trial basis, See how it goes kind of thing.
May help.
As for karma...
i was at 1 of the other forums i visit today And i noticed someting,
32 people had attempted to give me good points becous i had helped fix there problems,
But i had no good karma about it,
(did not bother me)
but i had an argument with 1 mod about the fact that he was an idiot,
"yah I argue with mods every where if they argue with me"
And he gave me 1 bad point, and that counted,
So i dont like karma points lol. :P
Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe
11-28-2005, 21:22
It's a good idea. I have good experience on other fora doing this.
In support,
Louis,
Craterus
11-28-2005, 22:24
Heh, you missed the Spamfest wher I raisd my postcount with 162 posts in a couple of hours. That`s hardcore..
But you got beat, forgot that, eh? ~;)
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Kekvit Irae
11-29-2005, 00:22
I beg to disagree. Moderate as strictly as eg. Beirut, BKS or kekvit do (or Gregoshi used to do); deliver warnings and other stuff more generously to spammers and don't reset them and you won't have any spam anywhere.
Huh? What? I dont have the ability to warn anyone officially. The only thing I can do is move threads and lock them. Yes, I'm strict when it comes to the rules, but I'm also lenient. We all are human. If someone fudges up, I'll chalk it up as an accident, but still take the necessary actions. Only if it happens multiple times by the same person will I see it as an actual offense. I dont like locking threads, they disrupt normal discussion, but sometimes these actions have to happen.
It doesnt help matters much that the only people with any real power in the Colosseum have been MIA for god knows when.
Just A Girl
11-29-2005, 00:29
Can I nominate Kekvitirae To have Atleast temporary mod status and controll of the Colosseum,
Untill The ones who are MIA return.
I always see her on the org... Seems sencible
Mouzafphaerre
11-29-2005, 12:08
Huh? What? I dont have the ability to warn anyone officially. The only thing I can do is move threads and lock them. Yes, I'm strict when it comes to the rules, but I'm also lenient. We all are human. If someone fudges up, I'll chalk it up as an accident, but still take the necessary actions. Only if it happens multiple times by the same person will I see it as an actual offense. I dont like locking threads, they disrupt normal discussion, but sometimes these actions have to happen.
It doesnt help matters much that the only people with any real power in the Colosseum have been MIA for god knows when.
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Hey, I gave your name as a positive example! :gah2:
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But you got beat, forgot that, eh? ~;)
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Bah, I had forgotten about that. Pure coincidence.
Kekvit Irae
11-29-2005, 19:52
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Hey, I gave your name as a positive example! :gah2:
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I know. I enjoy confusing the masses :tongueg:
Leonin Khan
11-29-2005, 20:24
Heh, you missed the Spamfest wher I raisd my postcount with 162 posts in a couple of hours. That`s hardcore..
WHAhahaAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA YOU DARE CALL THAT HARDCORE
ME (THE STRANGER) AND CRATERUS SPAMMED 100 POSTS EACH IN LESS THEN 2 HOURS...THATS HARDCORE
Relax TS...I was somewhat sarcastic.
Leonin Khan
11-29-2005, 20:57
Nah you werent :P...i cant relax...i dunno why...my temper is quite unbalanced
ive upset 8 people in 3 days without wanting it...and i got myself banned
Craterus
11-29-2005, 21:13
And rightly so.
Leonin Khan
11-29-2005, 21:49
i know...i never protested the banning
Craterus
11-29-2005, 22:14
Doesn't having another account defeat the object of warnings?
LeftEyeNine
11-30-2005, 03:04
Doesn't having another account defeat the object of warnings?
Yes, Isn't that being too "twisted" sense of humor ?
Leonin Khan
11-30-2005, 16:21
if you guys stop asking this questions...i dont have to answer them
i only used this account to solve a beef...after that...i used it to answer your questions...i dont really post with it...(dont give me a smartass comment craterus...that was not meant offensive)
LeftEyeNine
11-30-2005, 16:26
So we can make everyone sure that they'll use their common senses and allow multiple accounts ?
P.S. Don't answer this - if you don't feel like having to as you just mentioned.
Doesn't having another account defeat the object of warnings?
Yes and No. Since the official policy on this is sketchy, I made one up. :evil:
For the second account, I just apply twice the warning points for an infraction.
Third account - three times the warning points.
Works for me. ~D
Adrian II
12-01-2005, 03:44
It can be reset for only 10 goldpieces.Gotcha! TosaInu, you are 'Blubxor145', the character in Runescape who is selling postcounts in Fallador market square!
What if I gold-trim your pityful mithril shield, oh master of Organs -- do we have a deal? :sneaky:
P.S. Anyone else got kids in the Runescape age?...
Just A Girl
12-01-2005, 14:39
What was the topic again?
Mouzafphaerre
12-01-2005, 15:11
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Not many will like this but some certainly will. Just off the top of my head.
How about setting the Tavern (Frontroom and Backroom) so that new posts won't increase postcounts, as it is here at the Watchtower? ~;) :evil:
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Kekvit Irae
12-01-2005, 15:20
Except for gaining new avatars at certain milestones, I dont see the need for a public postcount
Mouzafphaerre
12-01-2005, 15:32
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Dunno, it feels void without it altogether. :blank:
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Kekvit Irae
12-01-2005, 15:57
From the forums I've been in other than the Org, post count breeds elitism. Plus it would reduce or eliminate the various post games in the Frontroom, which will help with the server's bandwidth.
The Stranger
12-01-2005, 18:28
So we can make everyone sure that they'll use their common senses and allow multiple accounts ?
P.S. Don't answer this - if you don't feel like having to as you just mentioned.
na i will...since i already have my own account back...with a 500 seconds floodcontrol :bow:
LeftEyeNine
12-02-2005, 02:04
I'm glad you got it back..with a 500 seconds floodcontrol :bow:
I support Mouzafphaerre's idea. I even wouldn't mind if postcount disappeared entirely, though it would be harder to see the difference between active and lurking members. Shambles' idea unfortunatly sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare. If reporting a post is enough to red-flag it, it becomes a very powerful weapon for vengefull members. If the mods have to decide whether a reported post is bad, it will result in a lot of complaints like "why was my post marked as bad while so-and-so's incitory message wasn't?". Anyway, what would be the difference with the warning point system?
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Not many will like this but some certainly will. Just off the top of my head.
How about setting the Tavern (Frontroom and Backroom) so that new posts won't increase postcounts, as it is here at the Watchtower? ~;) :evil:
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So will you accept the idea?:huh: I would vote for it.
Mouzafphaerre
12-03-2005, 02:04
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Yeah, to put it formally:
I propose that postcounts would not increase with the posts made at the Tavern, the Frontroom and the Backroom, in identical fashion to the Watchtower. Though, I don't agree with the removal of the postcount feature altogether.
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I propose that postcounts would not increase with the posts made at the Tavern, the Frontroom and the Backroom, in identical fashion to the Watchtower. Though, I don't agree with the removal of the postcount feature altogether.
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Seconded.
Just A Girl
12-03-2005, 11:21
but what would happen to all the front room spam threads?
Where would they go?
The apothecary??
Plz No not there.
but what would happen to all the front room spam threads?
Where would they go?
The apothecary??
Plz No not there.
They would die out and slowly be replaced. There would be much less activity in the forum but we can at least give it a try. Lets try it out for a week or two and see what happens.
Mouzafphaerre
12-03-2005, 13:27
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Honestly, the late "One Word Story" used to be a fun thread to post in last year. I almost never post in it anymore because it's no more a one word story, just merely a spam thread.
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The Stranger
12-03-2005, 14:16
yup...i barely post in the frontroom anymore (yeah yeah...give the smartass replies like : cuz you have a 500 sec floodcontrol) but its becuz the org entirely lost its magic for me...it used to be fun now its a habit
and its kinda sad that i worked also to destroy that :S
Actually, I think Tosa's addition of the Arcade has done wonders for the reduction of Frontroom spam. Instead of measuring themselves by postcount, members are using high scores as bragging rights (the way it ought to be on a gaming forum). Not sure if this was his intent, but it seems to have had that effect.
Brilliant addition Tosa! :bow:
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