Celt Centurion
12-06-2005, 23:59
I am presently engaged as the Greek faction in RTW.
There are two buildings which I find that I can build as my cities get to the "Large City" phase. In the Greek mode though, they are mostly useless to me.
The first is the Army Barracks. With an Army Barracks in Sparta and Syracuse, I can train up and retrain Spartan hoplites. I can also train up and retrain infantry used in smaller barracks such as militia hoplites, and regular hoplites.
However, outside of those two cities, I cannot even retrain the Spartan hoplites when they have taken casualties. To retrain them, I literally have to send them back to Sparta and Syracuse. O.K. Fine.
My question is, what point is there in even building an Army barracks anywhere else if the best unit you can train and retrain can be done at a City Barracks? Is there a stronger, more versatile unit that can be trained at the Army barracks, and I am not just seeing it?
The other observation is about the Greek elite cavalry stable. Yes, I can retrain Greek Cavalry, (light) but the only unit I can get there that I cannot get at a cavalry stable is "incindiary pigs."
I don't know about most of you, but I don't even use incindiary pigs. A few were given to me by the senate when I was playing as a Roman faction, usually for completing some mission, but I do not spend money on them.
I also got three units of them once when a city that used to be mine revolted against the Eyptians while I had it under siege from the outside. We have all seen revolts before, but this time, I actually got a city from it. I later found the incindiary pigs to be useless.
I can see it now, light them up and turn them loose, and the whole army gets hungry for bacon! Stop fighting guys! Let's have some breakfast!
My point is that with this structure, I can still only train and retrain the same light cavalry which I can also get at cavalry stables. There is no upgrade for a heavier cavalry which I see the Macedonians, and Selucids using.
Is this a permanent handicap on the Greek Cities, or will there be something better when I take a Roman city with a Circus Maximus?
I am not counting on that though. I have already taken Capua from the Scipii, and even with an Urban barracks, still the best infantry I can get is armored hoplites.
Is this just the way it is, or am I neglecting something? Are super hoplites or heavy cavalry available somewhere else, and I'm not seeing them? After building about 8 Army barracks and almost that many Elite Cavalry Stables with no benefit, I have just quit building them. I have about half a dozen cities with the only unbuilt things on the building cue being the Army Barracks and Elite Cavalry Stables.
Strength and Honor
Celt Centurion
There are two buildings which I find that I can build as my cities get to the "Large City" phase. In the Greek mode though, they are mostly useless to me.
The first is the Army Barracks. With an Army Barracks in Sparta and Syracuse, I can train up and retrain Spartan hoplites. I can also train up and retrain infantry used in smaller barracks such as militia hoplites, and regular hoplites.
However, outside of those two cities, I cannot even retrain the Spartan hoplites when they have taken casualties. To retrain them, I literally have to send them back to Sparta and Syracuse. O.K. Fine.
My question is, what point is there in even building an Army barracks anywhere else if the best unit you can train and retrain can be done at a City Barracks? Is there a stronger, more versatile unit that can be trained at the Army barracks, and I am not just seeing it?
The other observation is about the Greek elite cavalry stable. Yes, I can retrain Greek Cavalry, (light) but the only unit I can get there that I cannot get at a cavalry stable is "incindiary pigs."
I don't know about most of you, but I don't even use incindiary pigs. A few were given to me by the senate when I was playing as a Roman faction, usually for completing some mission, but I do not spend money on them.
I also got three units of them once when a city that used to be mine revolted against the Eyptians while I had it under siege from the outside. We have all seen revolts before, but this time, I actually got a city from it. I later found the incindiary pigs to be useless.
I can see it now, light them up and turn them loose, and the whole army gets hungry for bacon! Stop fighting guys! Let's have some breakfast!
My point is that with this structure, I can still only train and retrain the same light cavalry which I can also get at cavalry stables. There is no upgrade for a heavier cavalry which I see the Macedonians, and Selucids using.
Is this a permanent handicap on the Greek Cities, or will there be something better when I take a Roman city with a Circus Maximus?
I am not counting on that though. I have already taken Capua from the Scipii, and even with an Urban barracks, still the best infantry I can get is armored hoplites.
Is this just the way it is, or am I neglecting something? Are super hoplites or heavy cavalry available somewhere else, and I'm not seeing them? After building about 8 Army barracks and almost that many Elite Cavalry Stables with no benefit, I have just quit building them. I have about half a dozen cities with the only unbuilt things on the building cue being the Army Barracks and Elite Cavalry Stables.
Strength and Honor
Celt Centurion