Giving Alemanni horde ability does not work

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

Yesterday I tried to give the Alemmanis horde ability. I copied the horde settings from the Franks in Sm_faction and added allemanni under the horde units that the Franks also get in unit.text. However this did not work. What am I doing wrong here. AFAIKT it should work or do you have to create special units for the Alemmani?

Thanks for any tips~:)

BoC

[Epistolary Richard]

Can you post your actual entry from descr_sm_factions?

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

You mean the changes? if so here is what I changed

faction alemanni
culture barbarian
symbol models_strat/symbol_alemanni.CAS
rebel_symbol models_strat/symbol_barb_rebel.CAS
primary_colour red 56, green 80, blue 90
secondary_colour red 166, green 20, blue 23
loading_logo loading_screen/symbols/symbol128_alemanni.tga
standard_index 0
logo_index 23 ; Index into strat3.rsd
small_logo_index 243 ; Index into shared.rsd
triumph_value 5
intro_movie
victory_movie fmv/victory/alemanni_win.wmv
defeat_movie fmv/lose/alemanni_eliminated.wmv
death_movie fmv/lose/alemanni_eliminated.wmv
custom_battle_availability yes
horde_min_units 80
horde_max_units 100
horde_max_units_reduction_every_horde 20
horde_unit_per_settlement_population 300
horde_min_named_characters 4
horde_max_percent_army_stack 80
horde_disband_percent_on_settlement_capture 33
horde_disband_percent_on_settlement_capture 50
horde_disband_percent_on_settlement_capture 100horde_unit barb horde chosen swordsmen
horde_unit barb horde spearman
horde_unit barb horde spearman
horde_unit barb horde spearman
horde_unit barb horde hunter
horde_unit barb horde raider
horde_unit barb horde raider
horde_unit barb horde chosen swordsmencan_sap yes
prefers_naval_invasions no

AND THE UNITS (added Alemani to them)

type barb horde peasants
dictionary barb_horde_peasants ; Horde Peasants
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light_1
soldier western_peasant, 60, 0, 0.8
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_horde, can_swim, no_custom, is_peasant
formation 1.2, 1.8, 2.4, 2.4, 6, horde
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 2, 1, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,0.73
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0, 5, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 1, low, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 72, 0, 20, 30, 80
ownership franks, lombardi, burgundii, alemanni


type barb horde spearman
dictionary barb_horde_spearman ; Horde Spearmen
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Light_1
soldier spear_warband, 60, 0, 1.1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_horde, no_custom
formation 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, horde
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 8, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,0.73
stat_pri_attr light_spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 5, 4, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 6, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 279, 0, 40, 50, 310
ownership franks, lombardi, burgundii, alemanni


type barb horde hunter
dictionary barb_horde_hunter ; Horde Hunters
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Medium_1
soldier saxon_hunters, 40, 0, 0.9
mount_effect elephant +6, chariot +6
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hide_long_grass, can_horde, can_swim
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 2, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 6, 2, arrow, 120, 30, missile, archery, piercing, none, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 5, 1, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 5, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 2, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 5, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 207, 0, 30, 40, 230
ownership franks, lombardi, burgundii, alemanni


type barb horde raider
dictionary barb_horde_raider ; Horde Raiders
category cavalry
class light
voice_type Medium_1
soldier raiders, 27, 0, 1
mount light horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_horde, can_swim
formation 3, 4, 6, 6, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 5, 3, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 0, -2, -4, 2
stat_mental 6, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 342, 0, 40, 60, 380
ownership franks, lombardi, burgundii, alemanni


type barb horde chosen swordsmen
dictionary barb_horde_chosen_swordsmen ; Horde Chosen Swordsmen
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier sword_heerbann, 40, 0, 1.1
officer barb_standard
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hardy, can_horde
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 13, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 8, 7, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 12, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 567, 0, 70, 100, 630
ownership franks, lombardi, burgundii, alemanni

[Cheexsta]

I can see two mistakes in there.

horde_disband_percent_on_settlement_capture 100horde_unit barb horde chosen swordsmen
Should be:

horde_disband_percent_on_settlement_capture 100
horde_unit barb horde chosen swordsmen
And:

horde_unit barb horde chosen swordsmencan_sap yes
prefers_naval_invasions no
Should be:

horde_unit barb horde chosen swordsmen
can_sap yes
prefers_naval_invasions no
Maybe that will fix it.

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

I can see two mistakes in there.

Should be:

And:

Should be:

Maybe that will fix it.

I think it was the text format in the post who did those peculiar changes. In the SM faction text it reads as you suggested so that can´t be the problem.

[wlesmana]

Did you assign alemanni skin texture for those units in DMB.txt?

[professorspatula]

I hate when people reply to posts, plugging their own mods. Someone plug mine here please ~;) . You can always use the horde bits in my mod to give the Alemanni hordes and their own horde units and unit cards.

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

Did you assign alemanni skin texture for those units in DMB.txt?

No, perhaps that is the problem..

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

I hate when people reply to posts, plugging their own mods. Someone plug mine here please ~;) . You can always use the horde bits in my mod to give the Alemanni hordes and their own horde units and unit cards.

I am aware of your mod but I have done some own changes that might come into conflict with other modifications.~:)

[Epistolary Richard]

I think that professorspatula was suggesting that you can use the bits of his mod relevant to making the Alemanni horde to get yours to work :thumbsup:

Generally speaking, the failure to define a texture in dmb just leads the soldier to use their default texture (or occasionally appear just in white).

[Bernhard of Clairvaux]

I think that professorspatula was suggesting that you can use the bits of his mod relevant to making the Alemanni horde to get yours to work :thumbsup:

Generally speaking, the failure to define a texture in dmb just leads the soldier to use their default texture (or occasionally appear just in white).

Yep, did that yesterday, hopefully I will see what is missing. On a sidenote, tried to extract the files into RTW but was denied becuase of copy protection. I tried to remove the copy protection but it did not work. Never experienced that before.