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tonedog
12-08-2005, 19:24
what house rules do people use to make both the battles and campaign more of a challenge?

elbasto
12-08-2005, 19:31
Personally, in the campaigns, I never grow too much, I establish an objective and then only grow so far and only when my provinces are mostly developed.

petertmorgan
12-08-2005, 21:09
Try playing on hard or expert first if you haven't already.

After that, I like to think of a 'theme', and stick to it
1) Snobbish aristocracy - cannot recruit peasants in any province/ every army must have an aristocratic unit

2) Isolationism (works best for non-catholic powers) - No emissaries, no religious figures, decline all diplomacy. assassins okay if you want

3) Pillager - must destory all remaining buildings in a newly conquered province (excepting provinces you held for some time then re-acquired).

etc.

Bohdan, Lord of Courland
12-08-2005, 21:14
Well, I usually set myself a limit to the amount of ships I build in order to establish trade routes. Otherwise the game can become too easy quite early on after you finish spamming out your ships from the harbours: you'll have thousands of florins pouring in annualy into your coffers in no time :barrel:
I usually don't find the battles themselves too easy if I limit the numbers of each unit type I include in my armies (many pavise arbs. will make it rediculously easy): the fact that the AI keeps spamming huge armies of peasants-like troops (vanilla archers, spearmen etc.) in the vanilla version makes it even easier. But, on the whole, I normally don't find myself trying to limit my style of play as much while playing MTW when compared to RTW.
~:handball:

ichi
12-08-2005, 21:37
The rule here seems to be that you play the game the way that makes it the most fun for you.

I play with the game set on Hard and units set to normal size. I fight every battle (with setting always Fatigue on, Ammo Limited, Clock turned off), I usually start in Early and play GA.

Some ideas that have been thrown around over the years here include:

As a Catholic faction, be a good Catholic. Try to crusade if your faction is able to, try to avoid excommunication, support Papal requests, etc.

Never break a treaty or attack an ally.

Governors must be Royal Knights (other variations include allowing other Knights).

Never ally with the French~;)

As a Muslim my first priority is to Jihad to recover a lost province, then to destroy Crusades, then fight Catholics.

I also try to be a good King, removing gens and guvs with nasty vices, keeping happiness/loyalty high, buidling up my empire as much as possible. For me its not about beatin the code and winning the game in as short as time as possible, its about playing the game and having fun.

For example, I try to collect one unit of each type. I buy mercs and bribe rebels trying to collect an example of each type of cav or infantry. Little things that make it interesting.

ichi:bow:

lugh
12-08-2005, 21:39
I've a few

1)Governors must be RK or better.
2)Build only enough ships to cover your provinces.
3)Linked to the above, no trading buildings of any kind.
4)No mines and no agriculture over 40%. XL'x 40%farms can't be destroyed so if I capture an enemy farm, I'll raze it to 40%.
5)Offensive armies must be lead by a governor general, so heroes that get spwawned in a FMAA are out of luck.
6)Complete all GA goals, no matter how ruinous to the realm.
7)Help allies when they're besieged and you can reach them, even overseas if it means paying ransoms.
8)No killing off bad heirs.

9)In the battles, no whorish tactics like sitting your men on the eney's reinforcement vector.

VeroImperatoreDiRoma
12-08-2005, 22:15
Behave like an ally to allies,not letting crusades through etc.

When defending a province not to sit up at the highest point and pummel your foe with Arbalest

Next time I invade Burgundy to finish the French,accept the humiliating defeat instead of pressing the restart button on pc.(true event but not to be repeated)

and to quote ICHI play the game the way that makes it the most fun for you.

The Darkhorn
12-09-2005, 02:46
I have something I printed from another website ages go for "Ironman rules." They are pretty good and make it VERY challenging, almost impossible for landlocked empires. It's too much to type. I will try to find it on the web again and give you link.

Weebeast
12-09-2005, 05:44
I mostly try to be a good catholic/ muslim.

I don't execute Kings.

I pick the "right" side when there's a civil war. I stick with the one with the most royal support.

I help allies the best as I can especially those who allied with me through my daughters.

Now I mention it, I often send my princesses outside unless I have a hero or a good general at that time.

I play on normal but also give more but equal florins to all factions (including me cus I suck).

As for the battle, just don't exploit. I also never 'pre-arrange' my troops meaning I don't move my army before the battle begins.


For me its not about beatin the code and winning the game in as short as time as possible, its about playing the game and having fun.
I agree with you.

The Darkhorn
12-09-2005, 06:35
Here here ichi and Weebeast. I love playing the game just to play it...just to see if I can do something different with a historical situation than really happened and/or see if I can duplicate one. Anyway, playing is the joy! I have tons of historical boardgames too. People often wondered how I could play them solitaire. I just liked to immerse myself in history. It wasn't about winning!

...still looking for that site...