Emain Macha

[Greek_fire19]

I downloaded the google-earth EB thing the other day and I noticed something about Emain MAcha. As a northern Irish person, I first noticed that you hadnt put it in Ulster at all, but somewhere in the middle of Ireland. Thats no big deal, because I'v seen pictures of the EB map and on the map it's in pretty much the right place. It did seem strange though.

The other thing is you put a question mark beside it, suggesting that the exact loaction of Emain Macha is unknown.

I went to Emain Macha recently and the information at the visitor centre did not suggest that there was any doubt as to it's location: i.e right there.

Here's a few pictures:

http://www.mcmahonsofmonaghan.org/emain_macha.jpg

http://wildideas.net/cathbad/ireland/emain-macha-2.jpg

It's not in the middle of Ireland it's a few miles west of Armagh, which is marked on the googleearth map.

I have a huge amount of respect for your attention to historical detail and like I said, on the actual EB map it appears to be pretty much correct, but if there are any slavishly pedantic followers of historical accuracy in the audience (as if! :san_rolleyes: ) they might wanna update their maps. *shrugs*

[Ranika]

I don't know why it has a question mark after it; confuses me. Ireland is divided into two halves, using cities that we know the locations of (I'm fully aware we know the location of Emain Macha). I think the question mark may have been over the spelling (since there are a few variants of the spelling depending on the time period and dialect). If it was over location, that's still my fault I suppose for not telling Teleklos where the city was (which, for an easy point of reference on a modern map, one can use Navan).

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I probably didn't know where exactly it went - but that's why I put the question mark there. I haven't updated that file in quite a long time, but when we get the places finally set (there will be some changes after the open beta comes out) I'll update it again.

[QwertyMIDX]

You can see where we put it on the EB map we released to the public ages ago:

https://img290.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapantique4big7ib.jpg

[Greek_fire19]

(which, for an easy point of reference on a modern map, one can use Navan).

LOL, I have a feeling I see what happened, and it's pretty understandable. Basically the problem lies in the fact that here in Ireland we have lots of towns that share names. For example here in northern Ireland we have at least 3 Killyleas, 2 creggans and 2 Ballyclares. Navan, as well as being a tiny village just west of Armagh, is also a large town in Meath (coincidently only a couple of miles from the hill of Tara) When I looked at your google-earth map you have indeed placed emain macha beside the town of navan in meath.

I'm assuming this is how this mix-up occured :san_wink:

Like I said in the first post though, on the actual EB map, the location of Emain Macha is correct, I was just curious why it wasnt on the google-earth thing, but now I know :)

[RandyKapp]

This may be a stupid question, but why is Tara not on the EB map?

[Ranika]

'Tara' (which is a viking name, it should be Teamhaidh; Teamhair is a later name) was a tiny little village around a temple complex and religious sites. A few kings ruled from it, but it's just not that important outside of that in this period. It is present as a unique structure though.

[RandyKapp]

O, ok.

[Riadach]

'Tara' (which is a viking name, it should be Teamhaidh; Teamhair is a later name) was a tiny little village around a temple complex and religious sites. A few kings ruled from it, but it's just not that important outside of that in this period. It is present as a unique structure though.

Always known as teamhair, as far as i know. Teamhrach being the genitive case, from which we get tara. In earlier times was spelt temair and muirchiú in his life of st patrick calls it Temoria, a clear translation of the early irish Temair. It was written in the 7th century and not many irish documents pre-date it.