Question on BI Roman Offices

[HarunTaiwan]

If your general dies before you transfer the offices (which count as retinue, not v & v) is that office gone forever?

[Zatoichi]

OK - well as I have recently learned in another thread which I can't locate, these offices can get assigned in the same way as retinues - so it's a matter of having a family member in a city which has the prerequisite buildings, and the office not being currently assigned. Now I can't tell you which buildings you need precisely, but I'm sure one of the many knowledgeable patrons of this forum can fill you in with the details.

[Sir Robin]

Unfortunately, just from my own experiments, I think the red badge thingies are gone for good if you do not give them to someone else before he dies.:san_cry:

[HarunTaiwan]

Hmmmm, last night I had a new general pop up and he immediately got a seal of office. I think if the right building is in place they get an unused office.

Anyone else?

[Captain Fishpants]

Offices will reappear given time, providing a suitable candidate is in the right place, but we included a specific condition called FactionwideAncillaryExists to prevent more than one instance of a particular person/thing existing per faction.

Take the magister scrini, the head of the Imperial secretariat

FactionType empire_east
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists = imperial_palace
and IsGeneral
and not IsFactionHeir
and not IsFactionLeader
and Attribute Management >= 1
and Attribute Influence >= 2
and not FactionwideAncillaryExists office_magister_scrinii_east
and Trait Loyal >= 5

This office will re-appear at some point in the future if the holder dies, assuming that all the conditions are met. There is, of course, an equivalent office_magister_scrinii_west for the WRE, and this is a different office even if it has the same on-screen title.

Hope that explanation helps.

[HarunTaiwan]

Thanks for the explanation!

[Shadow]

So all we have to do is to get the family member with the title into a city and the other member who we want to give into the same city and we can exchange titles or must the prerequisite building be in the city?

[player1]

Note that 1.6 patch lowers some of the requirements for reappearing of offices (especially Loyalty onlys that where a bit unrealistic and difficult to get).

[PetMonkey]

Am I the only person who keeps reading the title as 'Roman Orifices'?

Yes? Okay then.

[jimmyM]

...It was always annoying with generals not getting titles (to give them a higher loyalty) because their loyalty was too low...kinda catch-22. Anyhow, in my ERE campaign I've had going since BI came out, I've noted alot more generals garrisoned in cities (with imperial palace) getting allocated titles...so it seems prerequesites have been tweaked for the better... :)