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Ser Clegane
12-18-2005, 20:09
German hostage in Iraq free (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1824669,00.html)

Some good news :san_cheesy:
Ianofsmeg16
12-18-2005, 20:11
just in time for christmas....
Byzantine Prince
12-18-2005, 20:42
Wow, I didn't know they kidnapped people in the north. I thought Kurdistan was safe. Hm? :san_shocked:
Tribesman
12-18-2005, 22:38
I thought Kurdistan was safe. Hm?
Safe ? it has been run by terrorists for the past 15 years .~D
Interesting to note the demands of the kidnappers though isn't it . Stop training the police ..the interior ministry police , now I wonder which of the many terrorist groups has a little problem with the terrorist group that is running the interior ministry and its police :san_wink:
Kaiser of Arabia
12-19-2005, 02:20
So...did Germany stop training Iraqi police? If so, why? Isn't a greater victory worth more than a single life?

If not (i.e. didn't stop training police), good job and good news?
Tribesman
12-19-2005, 02:29
So...did Germany stop training Iraqi police? If so, why?

Yes , the Iraqi government stopped sending them police trainees , as for why , you will have to ask the Iraqis that .
Kaiser of Arabia
12-19-2005, 03:50
So...did Germany stop training Iraqi police? If so, why?

Yes , the Iraqi government stopped sending them police trainees , as for why , you will have to ask the Iraqis that .
So, it was Iraq's descision to stop sending Germany the trainees? Most pecuiliar.
Tribesman
12-19-2005, 08:37
So, it was Iraq's descision to stop sending Germany the trainees? Most pecuiliar.
Perhaps the interior ministry was not satisfied with the training courses content , it seemed to lack the important elements like kidnap , torture , murder and voter intimidation .:san_laugh:
Lazul
12-19-2005, 10:01
So, it was Iraq's descision to stop sending Germany the trainees? Most pecuiliar.
Perhaps the interior ministry was not satisfied with the training courses content , it seemed to lack the important elements like kidnap , torture , murder and voter intimidation .:san_laugh:


ah, yes, the four pillars on wich modern democracy rests. :san_rolleyes:
Ser Clegane
12-19-2005, 12:58
So, it was Iraq's descision to stop sending Germany the trainees? Most pecuiliar.

Iraq hasn't been sending trainees since February (apperently there were some remarks about the Iraqi minister of interior not being happy with the quality) - so it seems there is no link between releasing the hostages and the stop of training.
KukriKhan
12-19-2005, 13:30
Seems unclear whether money changed hands. But nevertheless, good news for the German archeologist. The US hostage has apparently not fared as well. http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-12-19T084215Z_01_MCC931208_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-HOSTAGE-VIDEO.xml
Franconicus
12-19-2005, 15:39
Please note that the Turkish community of Berlin was one of the first to demonstrate for the hostage.:san_cheesy:
Kaiser of Arabia
12-20-2005, 00:36
So, it was Iraq's descision to stop sending Germany the trainees? Most pecuiliar.
Perhaps the interior ministry was not satisfied with the training courses content , it seemed to lack the important elements like kidnap , torture , murder and voter intimidation .:san_laugh:
They should send them over to France, I've heard the Frenchies have been good with that :san_laugh:

Ho ho freaken ho.
Goofball
12-20-2005, 01:01
They should send them over to France, I've heard the Frenchies have been good with that :san_laugh:

Ho ho freaken ho.

With the U.S.'s record with respect to the previously mentioned activities, I can't believe you have the balls to try and take a shot at the French.
Tribesman
12-20-2005, 01:11
With the U.S.'s record with respect to the previously mentioned activities,
Come on Goof , the US did suggest that the interior miniser should consider resigning when his torture facilities were exposed .
After serious consideration he politely told them to bugger off , well it wasn't really that polite , but that was just election time rhetoric I guess .
Kaiser of Arabia
12-20-2005, 02:40
With the U.S.'s record with respect to the previously mentioned activities, I can't believe you have the balls to try and take a shot at the French.
Heh, Algerian [impolite euphamism] atrocities nicer than the butt pyramid? I guess so.
Franconicus
12-20-2005, 08:23
So...did Germany stop training Iraqi police? If so, why? Isn't a greater victory worth more than a single life?
Kaiser, if you think that terrorists can change the German policy - then you do not know Germany at all :san_tongue:

German government never made or will made a political compromise because of terroristic pressure. No German Kanzler did it, no Kanzler will ever do this. Maybe you remember that Palestinian terrorists took athletes from Israel as hostiges during the Olympic games at Munich. A very difficult situation for Germany - 30 year after the Holocaust. German authorities tried to free the hostages, and failed. All hostages and most terrorists were killed.
Another example: terrorists kidnapped a plane. They landed at Mogadishu, where a German special task force attacked them and liberated the hostages. This time it was successful.

Back to Iraq. There is little information but a lot of rumours. I think the government did not use the special force because this country is still a den of thieves. Rumours say that the hostage was captured by a criminal group (not political). They sold it to a political group, telling them that she was a German spy. When they found out she was not, they set her free. German government promised to pay money by funding some social projects of that group - hospitals and so....
If this is true then it is good news. Only sad thing is that Iraq is still a playground for political and non political criminals.

But do not think that Germany, because it is not crazy about playing wargames anymore, is not able to deal with criminals.:san_wink:
Fragony
12-20-2005, 11:34
Good. Shame that american isn't so lucky.

Primitive necrophiles :san_angry:
Husar
12-20-2005, 20:46
Isn't a greater victory worth more than a single life?

I just want you to say that again in case you are the victim.
Kaiser of Arabia
12-20-2005, 22:59
I just want you to say that again in case you are the victim.
I'd give my life to see America win, if I needed to.
Franconicus
12-21-2005, 07:55
If you measure in lifes: How many lifes is the victory worth? (What victory?)
solypsist
12-21-2005, 18:29
you need to see the opening monologue of Patton, with George C. Scott. that might set things straight.


I'd give my life to see America win, if I needed to.
Kaiser of Arabia
12-22-2005, 00:32
If you measure in lifes: How many lifes is the victory worth? (What victory?)
As many as nessissary for the victory.


you need to see the opening monologue of Patton, with George C. Scott. that might set things straight.
Seen it. I never said it was preferable for me to die, however, if it is overall nessissary for the defense of the United States and her interests, than it is nessissary and I will give it gladly. Preferably with taking down as many of the enemy as possible.