Mods. And Abreviation's....

[Just A Girl]

Whats going on here Now then?

In all my time on the internet MF has Always meant My freind,

Yesterday I said Look it up MF (in the back room,)
"Look it up my freind"

Then i went to spend the day with my daughter.
So i came back today to see what had happend in the post,

Prety much Nothing had happend...
Why?
Cos A mod had decided to close the post.

I also had 2 pm's
1 asking me to explain what i said,
and 1 telling Me i had a MAJOR warning,.


This Is becoming Some what Annoying to say the least.
MF Has ALWAYS ment My freind.
Lile LOL means LOL
"You can say it means Loads of lesbians And warn me for that 1 if youy like 2."

You can keep going round Making up wour own menaings for abreiviations,.
But This Really Is taking the Piss.

That Thread was a good decent thread,
We wernt Arguing we were debating.
As far as im concerned it wasnt even a heated debate.

And now its closed? Becos a Mod Thinks MF means something other than MY fereind,

Verry annoying,

Prehaps You could get a list of ALLOWED abreviations.
Cos this is geting to be a JOKE!

[Just A Girl]

All is good.
And matter is all resolved...

However I would Still Like A list of ALLOWED abreviations.
Cos I dont need this 1st thing in the morning.

[TosaInu]

All is not good.

I did a search on internet and found some meanings too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_slang#M

[Proletariat]

I have never, ever heard of mf standing for anything other than what Tosa just pointed out.

[Ser Clegane]

I found a very(!!) comprehensive website on acronyms/slang.

Here are their entries on "mf"

more than you ever want to know about acronyms (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mf)

The first entry nicely reflects the whole situation here :grin:

[KukriKhan]

"Moderately Forte"

LoL. The price we pay for world-wide communications-ability across dozens of cultures = the occasional explanation is required.

[Proletariat]

Huh, well I'll be. If someone said that to me in multiplayer I'dve been inclined to disconnect. :embarassedg:

Anyway, imho there isn't a real need for an acceptable abbreviation list since usually just a simple discussion can sort these sort of things out. If you make an official list, it leaves room for people to use context and double-entendres anyhow, so it prolly would just become a joke.

[Just A Girl]

Well i am a mp gameing nut....
And as i posted in my pm regarding the matter i have always known MF to mean My freind.
i then went and posted A list of "games" Where people would ALL concider Mf to be my freind.

im not a chatroom person.
So i was not using it to mean anything els, Although i do see how some could interperate it as being something els.

The comprehensive Definitions list posted by Ser Clegane Only goes to veryfi my statments.

I hope this matter is resolved and all is well....
I see that tosainu san does not agree.

I will wait for futher confermation.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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MF has two common meanings:
Mezzo Forte (mf) - a dynamic expression in music notation
(Unspeakable) - abbreviation of a rap music expression:charge:
Use abbreviations/acronyms warily. I was chatting with a Brazillian friend and happened to type CU (for "see you"). He got puzzled about why I called him that out of nothing. It meant a particular body part in Portoguese.

Funny those Spanish fellows! ~D

:hide:
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[Mouzafphaerre]

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When in doubt, check http://www.acronymfinder.com
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[Just A Girl]

mf has 2 meanings, often used as:

(i) (You dont want to know)
(ii) My Friend

definition (i) is more commonly seen in chatrooms; whereas definition (ii) seen in multiplayer games.

if someone uses mf towards you, it's best to pretend you dont understand, so they will explain - either (i) or (ii). Since you dont want to just start insulting them.Example:

<Shinosuke> Blah.. lets stop the conversation.. I dont want to talk abt it anymore.
<Person1> ok mf.
<Shinosuke> mf?
<Person1> mf - my friend.
<Shinosuke> Oh.. ok.. i thought.. nvm.


It really does mean My freind......
And as far as im concerned still does always has and always will.

Its not my fault if people take the abriviation used in mp games for My Friend then give it a vulgar or insulting meaning without consulting or atleast telling me.....

ive been playing online games for Quite some time now,
has to be a decade if not more.
And its always ment My freind to me.

[Del Arroyo]

:gah:

[Mithrandir]

Oh, I was hoping for some more drama when I woke up this morning...
~:rolleyes:

There's no need for a list, just use your common sense.

[Geoffrey S]

Why not just type 'my friend'?

[Just A Girl]

Why not just type 'my friend'?

Why not type "Laugh out loud" or "Be right back" or "In my humble oppinion" or "If I recall correctly"?

MF always has ment My freind and i dont care what Vulgar and insulting people use it to mean,
It means My Freind.

[Ser Clegane]

I think this topic served its purpose.

- There was a misunderstanding (from my side) regarding the use of an abbreviation that obviously has several (quite different :inquisitive: ) meanings.

- The misunderstanding has been resolved relatively quickly

- Nobody has been injured

- I found a website that gives me more information about slang/acronyms than I could possibly need in my life

I don't think further discussion of the issue will lead to valuable new insights

:bow:

[Geoffrey S]

Why not type "Laugh out loud" or "Be right back" or "In my humble oppinion" or "If I recall correctly"?
In general, should I wish to use such a phrase I type the whole thing rather than use an abbreviation. This is because I find it takes no extra effort and it makes my posts look a little more presentable, and it does prevent such mishaps as you seem to have experienced.

[Craterus]

When an abbreviation is questionable, typing the extra letters would have saved an entire thread worth of typing. But it seems you had no idea of the other meaning, so it doesn't matter. As Ser said, the thread has served it's purpose.

[Just A Girl]

When an abbreviation is questionable, typing the extra letters would have saved an entire thread worth of typing. But it seems you had no idea of the other meaning, so it doesn't matter. As Ser said, the thread has served it's purpose.


I hope so.
although tosainu has only 1 post.
which states all is not well.....

but all the same the topic is done witth so
Happy new year.

[Adrian II]

I think this topic served its purpose.

- There was a misunderstanding (from my side) regarding the use of an abbreviation that obviously has several (quite different :inquisitive: ) meanings.

- The misunderstanding has been resolved relatively quickly

- Nobody has been injured

- I found a website that gives me more information about slang/acronyms than I could possibly need in my life

I don't think further discussion of the issue will lead to valuable new insights

:bow:Hear, hear. :bow:

[Devastatin Dave]

I think this topic served its purpose.

- There was a misunderstanding (from my side) regarding the use of an abbreviation that obviously has several (quite different :inquisitive: ) meanings.

- The misunderstanding has been resolved relatively quickly

- Nobody has been injured

- I found a website that gives me more information about slang/acronyms than I could possibly need in my life

I don't think further discussion of the issue will lead to valuable new insights

:bow:
Good For You. :2thumbsup:

[Goofball]

.
MF has two common meanings:

Mezzo Forte (mf) - a dynamic expression in music notation
(Unspeakable) - abbreviation of a rap music expression:charge:
Use abbreviations/acronyms warily. I was chatting with a Brazillian friend and happened to type CU (for "see you"). He got puzzled about why I called him that out of nothing. It meant a particular body part in Portoguese.

Funny those Spanish fellows! ~D

:hide:
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Whatever.

You're not fooling anyone with your phony meanings for MF. We all know that MF stands for Mouzafphaerre, and your posting in this thread is nothing more than a shameless act of self promotion.

GFY...

(I mean that in the context of Dave's explanation above.)

~:smoking:

[Redleg]

We all know MF is the intials for Meme Fartsalot.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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GFY? ~:inquisitive:

GOOFBALL FOR YOU :yes:
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[Goofball]

Is this funny abreviations now?

hows about

Come laugh Intensly tonight Or risk imediate satire?

*crickets*

I'll do the jokes, Just A Girl...

[Just A Girl]

*crickets*

I'll do the jokes, Just A Girl...

Ok... To crude i guess.
hows a bout :juggle2: :sweatdrop:

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Notice
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Fences
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[Kagemusha]

Couldnt resist playing with the Initials: Just A Girl.:laugh4:

[Mouzafphaerre]

Couldnt resist playing with the Initials: Just A Girl.:laugh4:
.
~:eek:
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[Just A Girl]

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~:eek:
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:dizzy2: Now we all know im not JAG lol....:inquisitive:

I really wish trish had thought of a diferent name now :laugh4:

[KukriKhan]

Let's all be careful to not clutter up TosaInu's forum with non-forum business material, please.

Thanks. :bow:

[Just A Girl]

Well your welcome to delet this and any of my other threads that were locked,
Would probably be for the best any way.

:bow:

[Divinus Arma]

This is funny.

I learned some new words today.:book:

What about

Man
I
Like
Flowers

?

Mf





perhaps mf should be expressed as:

mf(i)

mf(ii)

with each retaining their respective unique meanings?:2thumbsup:


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[Just A Girl]

This is funny.

I learned some new words today.:book:

What about

Man
I
Like
Flowers

?

Mf





perhaps mf should be expressed as:

mf(i)

mf(ii)

with each retaining their respective unique meanings?:2thumbsup:


Yay! Postcount +0


Personaly I beleve MF means my freind.
And i dont care what context others use it in.
If they say MF to me I read My freind.

if the say
"I wanna kill you MF i hate you I hate You."
Id ask,
so why did you call me my freind?

way i see it if the vulgar people use it to mean Something other than My freind,
Thats there fault. THEY should be the ones who haft to explain that they dont mean MY freind,

Otherwize your just allowing vulgar and insulting meanings to be the predomenant version.
MF means my freind.
And any other meaning of MF should be ignored By all but vulgar and crude people.

[Just A Girl]

Example of MF in conversation.
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/62692/mf.JPG

[Redleg]

Example of MF in conversation.
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/62692/mf.JPG


The common usage for MF in an everyday conservation is not my friend.

Regardless of what your intent for the initials are, the reciever's understanding of the term is what consitutes wether the term is acceptable or not.

Several have stated that the initials have other meaning then what your intented use of the letters are. Continued use only shows one thing.

[Just A Girl]

continued use shows That it's better for every 1 to use it to mean My freind.
and thus forcing crude and vulgar people to type out exactly what they mean.

[Redleg]

continued use shows That it's better for every 1 to use it to mean My freind.
and thus forcing crude and vulgar people to type out exactly what they mean.


In the work place - just as in public- its the recievers understanding and preception of the term that has just as much importance, courts in the United States have determined this in several instance of terms that the speaker did not mean to be offensive but that the preception of the reciever was that the term created a hostile work environment. The Intials MF have several meanings, in spoken conservation it has mostly a crude meaning.

The recievers of your comment have stated that they believe it to mean other terms. Continued use of the term can be seen as an attempt to insult, rather then what your intent is.

Its up to you to decide what your going to do, but you can't claim what your doing here is to get others to type out what they mean exactly - when your unwilling to do the same.

[Just A Girl]

so if i go around saying LOL means something crude and horrible.
Every 1 els will stop using LOL to mean Laugh out loud.
same goes for IMHO.
or any other thing you can think of...

People Wont stop Just becous some 1 stared to make the meaning vulgar.
And i can continue to post screen dumps of Othere places that use MF to mean my freind.
Im certain that i can post more pics of people using MF to mean my freind than you can to show they dont mean my freind.

All my games i play online people use MF to mean My freind.

I will not change my meaning for MF.
I will not bow down to vulgar people and let them take A prefectly good akronym and Give it a crude meaning.

If people have crude minds then thats not my fault.
I dont see why i should haft to type out a bunch of extra letters when MF will do,
and that every 1 would rather it means something els.
So that the insulting people get to just type MF instead of actualy voicing what they mean.

If you see MF, and read anything other than My freind.
Then it's you who has taken 2 letters and come up with A vulgar meaning for them.
That means you are the problem in the equasion.

I play in rooms with over 400 people at a time,
And If you dont read My Freind when you see MF.
Then your going to get kicked out and possibly banned.
Becous You are the vulgar 1.

[Redleg]

Communication is a two way process - one of listening and understanding of what one is hearing, and one of speaking and understanding the different consequences of one's speech.

Unwilling to accept that initials have mulitiple meanings, some far older then the internet shorthand of chat rooms, shows a failure of communication.

When you find yourself in a heated discussion with someone, and you are accused of insulting someone for the use of the initials MF - then part of the responsiblility of communication is to understand that when certains words and in this spefic case initials have multiple meanings, that meaning is not just what your intent of the initials, but the recievers perception of the initials.

[Just A Girl]

Like i said.
Its not my fault if people are vulgar.

[Redleg]

Like i said.
Its not my fault if people are vulgar.

However it is your fault when you have been informed that the meaning of the initials have multiple definitions, and you use the initials in a heated discussion with another patron, one that is not of a friendly nature.

In a heated discussion - where you tend to make ad hominem comments, you are setting yourself up for a problem because of the multiple meanings of the initials.

You can not claim your innocent when someone take the initials the wrong way.

[Just A Girl]

Umm...

When did i use it in a heated disscusion after it had been pointed out?

I dont know what your banging on about really.
And i dont think you do either.

[Just A Girl]

Guess youve noticed Your talking bull.
And insinuating that events have taken place that have not.
Nice debate redleg.
Remind me to take notes next time.

:bow:

[Redleg]

Guess youve noticed Your talking bull.
And insinuating that events have taken place that have not.
Nice debate redleg.
Remind me to take notes next time.

:bow:

So when discussing football with Gaiwan you did not conduct an ad hominem arguement where you then used the initials MF?

Tsk Tsk - people have other lives involving doing real things beside discussing the aspects of your failure to understand how to communicate.

Again if you desire to use the initials MF in a conservation and someone takes offense then the fault lies soley with you since you have been informed that many find the initials to mean an offensive term.

Notice how many moderators have informed you of that.

[InsaneApache]

Wouldn't the more pragmatic approach be to err on the side of caution?

After all the board and games forums are international. I found that in over seven years online never to assume that anyone fully understands what you say. Even misunderstandings occur with people from the English speaking world, *eyes the Yanks* and with someone whos native tongue isn't English the chances are even more so.

As for MF, it has only ever meant one thing to me. It certainly wasn't My Friend. Until this thread was started I'd never heard of it used as My Friend. I guess the majority of posters would say the same. Still, it is a novel defence.

[Just A Girl]

Wouldn't the more pragmatic approach be to err on the side of caution?

After all the board and games forums are international. I found that in over seven years online never to assume that anyone fully understands what you say. Even misunderstandings occur with people from the English speaking world, *eyes the Yanks* and with someone whos native tongue isn't English the chances are even more so.

As for MF, it has only ever meant one thing to me. It certainly wasn't My Friend. Until this thread was started I'd never heard of it used as My Friend. I guess the majority of posters would say the same. Still, it is a novel defence.


Ok I will post Pictures of people using MF to mean My freind And you post pictures of it being used in other context.
And then we will see who has the most examples.
And there for the most common definition of the term.

[Just A Girl]

So when discussing football with Gaiwan you did not conduct an ad hominem arguement where you then used the initials MF?

Tsk Tsk - people have other lives involving doing real things beside discussing the aspects of your failure to understand how to communicate.

Again if you desire to use the initials MF in a conservation and someone takes offense then the fault lies soley with you since you have been informed that many find the initials to mean an offensive term.

Notice how many moderators have informed you of that.

You said After being informed of the matter, but Can oly find the origional offence as an example of me using MF in a disscussion.
And that one was not even heated.

So again your talking bull.

And i will simply say.
Its not my fault Nor problem if people Are vulgar.
Its their place to change, Not mine.

So the fault lies with them.

[Redleg]

You said After being informed of the matter, but Can oly find the origional offence as an example of me using MF in a disscussion.
And that one was not even heated.

Tsk Tsk - you fail to see the point.



So again your talking bull.


There is some bull in this discussion, but its not coming from me.



And i will simply say.
Its not my fault Nor problem if people Are vulgar.
Its their place to change, Not mine.


When informed that the term is seen as offensive, continued use of the initials demonstrates that you are willing to create a hostile environment in the discussion regardless.



So the fault lies with them.

Incorrect, the fault lies with the individual that continues regardless of when he has been informed that the use can constitute offensive language.

Again the initials MF had a use way before the internet shorthand, and its meaning is more common then then not.

Care to guess why mulitple moderators have stated such?

[Just A Girl]

"Incorrect, the fault lies with the individual that continues regardless of when he has been informed that the use can constitute offensive language."

There you go again Implying that i coniue to use the term regarless.

[Ser Clegane]

This issue is still subject of discussion? :inquisitive: ...amazing

[Redleg]

"Incorrect, the fault lies with the individual that continues regardless of when he has been informed that the use can constitute offensive language."

There you go again Implying that i coniue to use the term regarless.

Not implying at all - you have stated so.

[InsaneApache]

I give up. You are obviously not open to reason. I'd would give you some advice. Unfortunately it would fall upon deaf ears. Sad. :wall:

[Just A Girl]

reasoning is fine so long as your reasoning dosent assume that every 1 uses MF to mean some crude and vulgar Thing.

Fact of the matter is.
Where MF is used to mean anything other than My freind.
It is not allowed.
There for the predomenant use of MF on the internet Is my freind.

Its you guys who haft to change.
so do so.

[Duke John]

If you really are so sure about how commonly MF is used as My Friend then why not make a simple poll and see how what the perception of the Org patrons are? If the majority votes for My Friend then I can see no harm in using MF that way. But I would be very surprised if that would be the case.

[Just A Girl]

If you really are so sure about how commonly MF is used as My Friend then why not make a simple poll and see how what the perception of the Org patrons are? If the majority votes for My Friend then I can see no harm in using MF that way. But I would be very surprised if that would be the case.

The org has bearly ANY members compared to most forums i visit.
Infact most games i play have more members/players than the org does.

this is why i proposed to paste screen dumps of people using mf in context.
and stated that i personaly believe that i would gathere more screen dumps of people using mf to mean my freind. than you could to show otherwize.

fact of the matter is.
here at the org people have been told not to use mf.
there for the org has poorly educated members in to using it for a vulgar use.
And as such it is not used.
-1 case of MF being used in a derogitory manner.

In places like carom.
MF is allowed and is used to mean my freind.
any othere meaning of the initials would need spelling out.
+1 case of mf being used in a non derogatory manner.

if we take this as a rule of thumb.

We will see Mf HAS to be predominantly used to mean My freind.
As any derogitory term related to it is banned.
and there fore No 1 can use the term to mean anything derogitory.

So I will be able to provide many more screens of people using MF to mean my freind.
than you can otherwize.

[Duke John]

Well, if you say so then I take it as the truth. But what happens at other forums or in games has little influence on the policy of the Org. I can show many screenshots of websites that have porn on them, does that mean we need to have porn on the Org? ...stupid example, but you get the idea.

But is this a campaign to promote the usage of MF as my friend?


there for the org has poorly educated members in to using it for a vulgar use.
You are too quick with conclusions. Did the Org staff decide to ban MF before or after it was oftenly used as an insult? You don't know.

[Just A Girl]

I think you seem to understand what i am saying.
So i guess theres no need to argue.

Your right about porn being a silly example, And i could now rip in to it and how inadequate an example it was.
But like you said.
I know what you mean,
I dont agree...
But i know what you mean.

And yes i guess in a way it is a campaign to promote the usage of mf to mean my freind.

When i see MF i read my freind.
if every 1 did the same this post and thread would not exist.

I personaly believe,
if every 1 uses MF to mean my ferind
The vulgar people would haft to Spell out Exactly what they mean

Ive seen it happenWith BS.
"Bull Shit" (moderate language there pg-13 id say)
being turned in to Best shot.In a FPS game.

So when some 1 dissagreed with how you killed them and they said BS.
you simply said thank you.
And the vulgar person got mad and left.

BS Still dosent mean Best shot on the internet.

But MF in my expirience does.
Any where MF means my freind. It is allowed.

Andany where Vulgar people may use it to mean somthing crude it is not allowed.
So My freind is being allowed to be the predominant meaning.

But some people seem to want it to be used for Vulgar and slanderous meanings.
Dont ask me why...

I cant comprehend stuff like that.

[Duke John]

Ah, I understand. If this is how it goes in the gaming communities you visit then my hat is off for pulling it off.

But I doubt that the method described by you is worth the effort in this community. Abreviations are not commonly used (and I am thankful for that) as this is primarily a single player community. So enforcing a "new" meaning to MF or BS is difficult to achieve since people will encounter it so rarely.