AI faction expansion in your campaigns?

[King Thengel]

https://img328.imageshack.us/img328/2973/epirus7ck.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

A restart of my Epirus campaign(262 bc now), as I only realised my error in the end of the last one :shame:.

[Jarardo]

@pezhetairoi, I like your post, looks like you have a great campaign going on, some questions about how you play the Romani.

I only played one campaign with them, and I went first and conquered all of west africa, I realized that I could only recruit cavalry there, and had a really hard time maintaining the area, as I had to move all infantry out of Itally, and it seems the mercs arent very well set up in that area yet, as there wasnt a lot of infantry through that rout either. So how were your recruitment options in the provinces you took?(IE spain/greece)

And when your empire gets that large, do you find yourself fighting on all sides? Do your turns take a long time?

[Oleo]

Old situation:


Roman Campaign, Medium/Medium v0.7.3a,
227BC,
https://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2451/eb227bc5aj.jpg


214BC
v0.7.4
https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3307/eb2148qg.jpg

Armenia bribed switzerland, Aedui bribed Croatia and expanded, Ptolemaioi had bribed 3 of my african citites that have been recaptured.

Casse have invaded europe but for some reason they keep changing between war and cease fire every turn with the aedui city in belgium

[pezhetairoi]

@pezhetairoi, I like your post, looks like you have a great campaign going on, some questions about how you play the Romani.

I only played one campaign with them, and I went first and conquered all of west africa, I realized that I could only recruit cavalry there, and had a really hard time maintaining the area, as I had to move all infantry out of Itally, and it seems the mercs arent very well set up in that area yet, as there wasnt a lot of infantry through that rout either. So how were your recruitment options in the provinces you took?(IE spain/greece)

And when your empire gets that large, do you find yourself fighting on all sides? Do your turns take a long time?


Hi jarardo. I realised from the outset that I couldn't rely on recruitment in the conquered provinces except for garrison troops or inferior allied troops, so I didn't worry too much about recruitment. Especially since I play in the historical style, with all armies coming from Italia and returning to Italia to retrain, and filled with Roman units as far as possible.

In Spain, recruitment is impossible in the north as no units have been set up there yet, though I understand some ethnic units will be placed there in 0.8 or something like that. In the south, depending on your government system, you are able to build Curisii, Equites Caetratii, Caetratii infantry and Scutarii. In Greece you are able to build Taxeis Hoplitai, Akontistai, Toxotai and Peltastai, that is all. But peltastai alone can pretty much hold their own as shock infantry, so there isn't really much of a problem. In Thrace, the recruitment is pretty much the same, with the exception that in Tylis you are also able to recruit Galatian Kuarothoroi, who will be extremely valuable should you ever decide to send a Roman army there, and need shock infantry to replace your dead hastati.

In the Getian region, recruitment is again shot to pieces for some provinces. In some, you can recruit Mala Gaeroas, but that's about it.

In Gaul, you get Clyddabre, Lugoae, Leuce Epos and Sotaroas. Simply put, Clyddabre are useful as garrison troops because of their large unit size, their cheap upkeep and low recruitment costs. Lugoae are neither here nor there. Leuce Epos are useful because they are the only skirmisher cav you will have, and their attack is nothing to scoff at. Sotaroas...well, let's put it this way--they are the most damaging archers I have now, since Toxotai are just about useless save for flaming arrows. Oh, and may I add. Capture Aventicos and install a IV government and you can get that excellent Mori Gaesum, who will be your stone wall to shatter barbarian charges after Polybius comes. Freaking expensive, 2 turns to build, but by gods, worth it.

In Sicilia, you can recruit nothing of the Qarthadastim units, even in Lilibeo. You cannot recruit anything in Messana either. Same for the Lipari islands. However, Syrakousai is a goldmine of units, with greek units in there. The Iphikratid hoplitai will be a must in your invasion of Africa after the Polybian reforms, i think, because it's the only equal counter to the Liby-Phoenicians, and even then it's a slightly inferior counter.

I have conquered Nikomedia in Asia Minor, and it would appear right now that all I can recruit there on a IV government is Belgae Batacorii, which others have already pointed in a bug since the Belgae are supposed to live thousands of miles away, unless they got drunk and lost their way home.

Mercenary wise, Gaul is a perfect place for mercenaries, if you have the money you can have an instant army of decent infantry and cavalry. If you look at my Gaul screenshot the Roman fullstack in the centre of the screen facing the Arverni fullstack is completely made up of mercs and nothing else. Spain is moderately good for mercs, since scutarii can be recruited there. But because of its distance there is really little need to recruit them or export them elsewhere after you have conquered Spain. In Asia Minor there are also a lot of troops to be hired, with Galatians, Greek phalangitai and hoplitai, peltastai and thureophoroi. You can also create instant fullstacks in Asia Minor if you so wished.

In Greece the same applies, with Hippeis Thessalikoi being available in Thessalia (where else?). Barbarian mercenaries in the lands I am in are so far pretty generic. The only difference I saw was that for the first time I came across Ridoharjoz mercenaries in Sequallra.

With an empire so large, it may surprise you to know that I am not attacked from all sides. As my post stated, I have only two fronts to fight on--Gaul, and Pontos. I make sure that I don't go to war with the whole world at once, and I annihilate one enemy, or at least render him unable to fight back, before turning on another. Gaul was a miscalculation on my part, because the moment I attacked the Arverni, the Aedui attacked me, landing me with an anarchic situation. Pontos was an unprovoked fight.

Currently, however, I have 5 fullstacks in Europa, one of Mala Gaeroas going to retrain in Illyria, and 2 in Asia Minor ripping Pontos apart in retaliation for their unprovoked attack on Byzantion. They are positioned in such a way that they can cover all the fronts with possible threats easily. Those I cannot deal with are kept with alliances. E.G. Skythia, which I let Sauromatae have so they could be a buffer between me and Hayasdan, whose fullstacks honestly scare me.

Turn length... ouch. Let's put it this way, I play about 8-9 hours a day when I'm not in the army, and in that time I only go through about 2-3 turns on a slow day (with lots of battles, typically 5 a turn) or 8-9 on a fast day (only building and management with less than 5 battles in total). To make things worse, I'm the patient sort of commander, in other words, I take full advantage of the fact that there is no time limit. In assaults I let my troops rest after each phase, so they are fresh before they start on the townsquare assault. This takes about 5-10 minutes on triple speed if they are exhausted.

So yes, my turns are freaking long. You need patience to play EB.

[QwertyMIDX]

Man, the AI must be utterly hobbled by the load/save bug in your game. Hopefully we'll have the 1.5 version of EB out in the nearish future and you avoid that.

[pezhetairoi]

Do elaborate? Why do you think the AI would be hobbled by the loadsave bug? I think I've not been having problems so far in the campaign, since the Pontic army besieging Byzantion when I saved the game for the night was still besieging it the next morning when I reloaded the game...

[QwertyMIDX]

They wander away the next turn usally. Whenever you load a game in 1.2 the AI gets very confused for a few turns.

[pezhetairoi]

Oh, that one. Yes. They wander away. But I've tried to minimise it by playing for hours at a time. Of course, there're very few turns passed in that period of time, so it stymies their strategy somewhat.

[The_White_Knight]

Armenia bribed switzerland, Aedui bribed Croatia and expanded, ...


:inquisitive: That's hilarious ... in a peculiar way...

[pezhetairoi]

Well, in my game Pontos, as part of their ongoing war against me, bribed Vindelicos, north of the Alps. Then they couldn't hold on to it, so it rebelled back to the Aedui (curses!). So right now I have BOTH a Pontic fullstack of Lugoae/Mala Gaeroas and a halfstack of two-gold-chevron Carnute Cingetos, Bataroas, and Brihentin on my northern border. The former is a walk in the park, but the latter, GAH!

[aleh]

https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8417/242bcb6zu.th.jpg (https://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=242bcb6zu.jpg)

Ok, so this has been my first ever campaign with EB, as the Romani. I'm currently involved in war with the Epeirotes, I win very battle, and I mean /every/ battle against them. Yet they just have more and more troops to throw against me, it's sick, right now, I'm recruiting garrison forces against them so I can take all of their cities within a couple of turns without having my eastern army(Legio VII, VIII, and IX) bogged down in garrison duty.

The Getai have suddenly exploded out of their holdings, and within a couple of years captured a lot of land. Thank the gods I'm allied with them. Right now, they've got me encircled in the north, but I'm trying to beat them to Patavium, which I no doubt will since I've plenty of time. The Macedonians have been relegated by the Epeirotes to Mydelone(or something) and Pella. The Greeks are putting up fierce resistance in Sparta, and they've Rhodes as well. But soon enough, the entire Epeirote/Macedonian/Greek holdings on the mainland will be mine. In the east. The Seleucids are getting /hammered/ by the Baktrians and Hayasdan, especially the Baktrians. They've also shot up in a mere decade, both of them that is. But in turn, the Seleucids are beating(to a minor degree) the Ptolemies in the east, and they've expanded into Arabia.

As for the Ptolemies, they're trying to expand into Asia Minor, and they're involved in a war against the Carthaginians. Somehow, they've captured most of available Africa, I only realized it after a while and was astonished. As for the Carthos, they've captured a Ptolemaic region a while back, but right now they're also involved in a war with Iberia. Speaking of whom, the Iberians have also shot up somehow, most of the northern and central Spanish peninsula is in their control. Right now, by what I can see of troop deployment, unless they mess up or something else happens, I give the upper hand to the Iberians in their current war with Carthage. The Arvenni have expanded somewhat into this region, and they're trying to expand into northern France and into Aedui territory. The Aedui are almost penned in from all sides(sea, Arvenni and Sweboz), but I think they're starting to gain the upper hand in their fight with the Arvenni, but if ever the Sweboz declare war, they're royally messed up. Oh, funny thing, Galatia rebelled! I was surprised to see a darkish greenish blob in Asia Minor.

The Sauromatae have done little since they started, and Pontos has only recently started to move.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Epeiros looks like they have a number of provinces that can really churn out the money though - with ports and markets in every province, and mines in some too. It looks like Thermon is going to give you grief! :grin: It always seems to be one of the toughest places in EB (to me) to take. I like seeing Epeiros occasionally take greece though - it doesn't happen that much, but it does sometimes. If Epeiros has Makedonia as a protectorate, they may be getting cash from Pella too (which has tons).

I like the distribution over almost all of that map actually - except maybe the Baktrians in the steppe and the Ptolemies insisting on going west.

[TekcoR]

As of 165BC, the Roman Republic (me) is slowly expanding its control into Iberia, who temporarily kicked out the Carthagians. Getai are huge, but have posed no threat to the Roman Republic. Whats interesting is the Konion Hellon expansion into the Crimea. I was wondering where they had departed to, after kicking them out of Greece and Rhodos...

https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2079/165bc5ka.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Update: As of 160BC, I have expanded my control into Iberia and Gaul, along with taking Corisica and Sardina from Carthage. I did launch a failed expedition to take Carthage. Sweboz is destroying the Arveni and Aeudi and still being destroyed by the Getai. The Seleucid Empire is expanding again. Joy.

https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/311/160bc9wd.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

[Teleklos Archelaou]

The KH can sometimes acquire cities in the Crimea if a rebellion occurs when another faction controls it. They seem to have gotten lucky there before you ran them out of Greece. :grin:

[King Thengel]

https://img460.imageshack.us/img460/1765/aedui2za.jpg

My new campaign as the Aedui, 248 B.C. My expansion in Iberia has been greatly slowed due to my old but great generals dying, and in the east my King has been slowly conquering the Getae with no real problems.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

So I assume the Epeirotes asked for your help, and you sent troops to the upper Danube to aid them. Is that correct? Neat to see that working sometimes.

[King Thengel]

Yeah, I was surprised to see that the army is still surviving though, after making it there morale was horrendously low and I almost lost everything.

[mattholomew]

wow, i haven't posted on this forum in ages, and though i've played many campaigns now (mostly unsuccessful), only two of them really seemed worth saving screenshots of, so here are some from my makedonian and roman campaigns. As for the makedonian one, i think i might have played a few more years but really i just got bored.

https://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5646/romaniandmakedon7so.th.jpg (https://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=romaniandmakedon7so.jpg)

With the romans, i have just finished a huge war in greece against epeiros and makedonia, starting in 263 bc and hopefully reaching its end in 248. Caivs avrelivs cotta, my faction leader, managed to defeat EIGHT (no exageration) full stack makedonian armies in two turns (six in one turn, two more the next).

It began when Epeiros attacked capua. General cotta, then only a young boy, moved on taranto in the absence of an older general. He desposed of the epirotes quickly, but the young man would learn to hate the greek armies, greek culture, and greek people. Even through his ten years studying in roma and capua, he retained this hatred. Even as the senate raised armies for the invasion of sicily and spain he could only think of his armies marching on greek soil. Even after ten years when pyrrhos sent his navies to blockade roman ports, Cotta hated the greeks. It didn't take long to convince the senate to give him a legion. Many romans and samnites, but no greeks, joined up with the young general's legion. He deployed into epeiros quickly, defeated pyrrhos, and defeated a makedonian army which strayed into the new roman lands. After this, peace was made.
War began again, two years later, when Cotta and two other roman generals, Numerivs ambrosivs and Domitivs Scipio, liberated Southern Greece from makedonian oppression. Scipio and his Samnite Legion took control of sparta a few years after cotta slew pyhrros. Ambrosivs captured thermon the same autumn. Cotta proved most ambitious and nearly took athens before retreating towards Chalkis, which served as his base for much of the war. With these three cities in southern greece, as well as ambrakia and epidamnos to the north, the three roman legions were soon left on the defensive. The senate did not have enough money for this greek war, A rebellion had sprung up in Ariminum, and blasio was busy fighting the gauls at bononia and patavium. Cotta had hoped the invasion would subdue the unprepared makedonian army, but he underestimated his enemies. The makedonians had a massive army. Nearly a dozen mighty legions marched around pella and soon halted the roman advance. Their counter attack was fierce but the romans held out for a few years. As soon as korinth was besieged by Scipio and his primarily samnite army (i know it's probly inaccurate but it looked fun, plus they're expensive and thus harder to use. Also, i like the golden shields.), Cotta sailed to attack pella. However, he was cornered by the makedonian navy and forced to land on the coast north of demetrias. Scipio took korinthos shortly afterwards, and athens was taken too. Then the makedonians sent every single army to destroy cotta, who won all 8 battles in a row.

oh, also, i edited the map a bit so that africa cannot be crossed by land. That should hopefully let the carthaginians push into spain. I like that the sarmatians are expanding nicely, except for armenia's invasion. One more thing, in a baktrian campaign that i played, the parthians managed to make a large and coherent empire. They actually took hekarompylos. I think i conquered all of that back though.

[Comtempt]

https://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1656/kh6kf.th.jpg (https://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kh6kf.jpg)

The above is from my campaign as the Koinon Hellenon, and it is currently year 255. Here's the rundown on what happened during my game:

I assaulted Crete the first turn with the troops I had, using a spy to open the gates. I won a heroic victory there, before attempting to cart my Faction leader back to the main land. Tragically, the Makadons attacked the fleet, and sunk it to the last man, including my leader. This would begin a chain of events that would wipe both Makadon, and Eperios from the map.

The new faction leader, a mere age of 22, quickly mobilized Sparta, and launched a campaign at Kornith, while getting an alliance with Eperios. My new faction leader was meet with a much larger Makadon army, but he quickly crushed it, and then procceded to break the city.

Following that, he took the Makadon city east of Athens, but not before becoming an Olympic campion. Building of his success, he marched north on the road to Pella, with an army made up of veterns of the Kornith campaign, and slingers and akontisti. My faction leader burned a path through Makadon, and quickly was able to take Pella. Retraining his troops, he marched on the last Makadon city on the mainland, north of Byzantium.

Meanwhile, Eperios became jealous of Hellenon power, and betrayed us to seige Pella. I launched several unsuccessful sallies in the hopes of saving my general there, but to no avail. A second army was built quickly in the main cities, and was quickly sent north. The captain won a clear victory against a Eperios army going south, and was quickly adopted for his deeds.

My faction leader was facing troubles of his own. Beseigeing the Makadon town, which had a force of 1600 within it, with an army of 1400 men, he hoped to starve them out. A Makadon army of another 1600 however, moved to relieve the city. When they attacked, my leader retreated. Unfortunetly, he did not retreat to better ground. Instead, he retreated until he was pinned by the city against a mountain.

When the two Makadon armies attacked again, it became a win or die situation. With this in mind, my general defeated the combined Makadon force of 3200 with only 700 causalties to his mostly slinger, mercenary, and peltast army. The city was his, and he could now relieve Pella from the Eperios army. And relieve he did, saving the general trapped within.

Quickly retraining at Pella, my faction leader quickly defeated several Eperios armies, before defeating Pyrros in a pitched battle, killing both him and his son. It was not soon after that the Eperios was destroyed, completely. Following this, I gathered an army, and destroyed the huge two stacks of Makadons on their last island, wiping them from the game.

Now Koinon Hellenon is poised to dominate the Med. Oh, and a province rebelled to me from Pontos. I don't even know how, or even remember when.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Trapezous does that sometimes. Quite plausible (esp. considering the relatively higher implausibility of other factions gaining provinces this way) - and lucky for you too. :grin:

[Cheexsta]

And this, kids, is why you don't edit map_regions.tga and try and load a savegame ~D

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/cheex/Random/RomeTW2006-06-2916-16-02-76.jpg

I'll see if I can get a fixed pic of the *real* empire borders...

Edit: here we go.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/cheex/Random/RomeTW2006-06-2916-45-19-53.jpg

Yeah, I own the Saharan and Arabian deserts. Reason being that I tried to use the script to give the settlements to the rebels before making the areas inaccessible (personal preference, really), but for some reason adding console_command control slave doesn't work in the EBBS even though replacing "slave" with any other faction *does* work, and although I've held the regions since 208BC with no garrisons they're still not revolting. So what I'm going to do is just give them to the Iberians before finishing them off, so the settlements will turn rebel.

On the campaign itself, I'm finding it quite enjoyable. I currently have three "Legions" in Iberia counterattacking after the Aeduan onslaught (they sent 4-5 full stacks into my territory and took Numantia), three more in Italy preparing to attack the Koinon Hellenon and another one in Illyria. I may have 370,000 odd mnai, but it's quickly dwindling while I'm building these armies for war. The basic plan is to re-solidify my defense in Iberia and situate two Legions there to defend it, and send all remaining forces into Greece. That should take care of my monetary problems before I wrestle with Carthage. Then, finally, I intend on expanding into Anatolia by the time the Marian reforms roll around, so I can hold roughly the land that the Romans had at the time.

Elsewhere in the world: the Aedui/Averni struggle continues; the Averni have finally lost a bit of ground, but are rebuilding their armies. The Casse have made themselves comfortable in central Gaul, while the Suebii have just exploded in expansion. Not even 50 years ago and the Suebii were struggling to expand past their original province! The Ptolemies have build up a fair eastern Empire, subduing the Seleucids and Pontics, making both protectorates, while the Baktrians and Armenians have started building their usual steppe empires.

So yeah, interesting stuff.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

That might be pretty fun though. That mixed up map. :2thumbsup:

Also, that's probably a result of slave being inherently 'roman' in some ways - like if you put slave as the default culture, the town will look roman. crap like that...

[NeoSpartan]

hey how can I veiw the whole map and then post it??

[paullus]

Just take a screen shot on the campaign map, and then you crop it down to the map only. Is that what you mean?

[Cheexsta]

He wants to know how to remove the fog of war. Press tilde (~) and type toggle_fow. To take a screenshot, press the Print Screen button, open any image editor such as paint and press Ctrl+V (ie "paste"). Save to a JPEG (preferably not BMP, they're too big) and upload to a website like ImageShack or Photobucket.

[Wardo]

Very interesting AI on this one. I'm Ptolemaioi:

https://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3351/205bcpl9.png

Bostra (Orange patch next to Judea) was given to KH by me after capturing it but not having enough troops to survive a siege, as you can see the Seleucids just trashed the garrisons of my other possessions. Very fun, very interesting campaign so far and I still haven't used Agemata stuff yet, waiting for a strong military Pharaoh to "reform" my mostly machimoi army and start recruiting the foreign settlers I've been breeding till now. :egypt: Can't wait for 0.8.

[Justiciar]

Good to see the Sweboz kicking assōz...

*A church bell tolls in the distance, heralding the arrival of a tumble weed*

.. I'll get mi' coat.

[CountArach]

Very interesting AI on this one. I'm Ptolemaioi:

https://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3351/205bcpl9.png

Bostra (Orange patch next to Judea) was given to KH by me after capturing it but not having enough troops to survive a siege, as you can see the Seleucids just trashed the garrisons of my other possessions. Very fun, very interesting campaign so far and I still haven't used Agemata stuff yet, waiting for a strong military Pharaoh to "reform" my mostly machimoi army and start recruiting the foreign settlers I've been breeding till now. :egypt: Can't wait for 0.8.

Wow, Seleucids are keeping you at bay! I suppose not having any real elites will punish you.

[Ower]

I know, that this thread is mainly for EB. I jus want to ask, because here are some mach more experienced players, if anyone ever seen something like this in RWT vanila?https://img452.imageshack.us/img452/1117/untitledct7.jpg https://img468.imageshack.us/img468/3120/situatrn9.jpg

I turned out the FoW to see if there is something else interesting, but there wasn´t, it was 249 BC. I´m playing as H/M Armenia, and have RWT 1.5, I am playing, till EB 0.8 comes out:2thumbsup:(can´t wait).

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Not sure what the weird thing you are talking about is. Faction distribution? Any one in particular?

[Ower]

there is a part of me post failing:dizzy2:
Never mind. What I was pointing at are the Greek stacks, they beaten the Scipii stack there, but then just stood there, and done nothing till the Scipii landed another army there, they beat that as well, eaven as it was aided by the garnison from Corinth, Corint was almoust undefended, but they didn´t besiege the city. And that´s not the only such situation, the Seleucids and the Egyptian are just standing at their borders, maximaly atack one army of the other and then returne back, I attacked the Seleucids and they sent all their armys after me and left Damaskus and Antiochia with onli pesants and some peltas, but the Egyptian full stack are just standing at their borders.
In the west Spain was for 10 years the Gaul city in the center, defended by 3 units (the Spanish had full, or half stacks) but didn´t sack it:dizzy2:
The Brits, sieging an weakened Massila alsou.

I don´t know why, but me AI is ackting eaven more stupid then usual.
(I would have posted more pics, but there is a problem whit me upload:furious3: and I apologise for the bad speling:sweatdrop: )

[Musopticon?]

At least this is whole lot better than when the Brits conquered half of Europe in my Julii campaign.

[Ower]

At least this is whole lot better than when the Brits conquered half of Europe in my Julii campaign.

I would love to see that:2thumbsup:
In my campaign the Brits are doing quit well, although the Spanish have sacked Lemonum. It seams that the Spanish and Thracians are the only AI that regulary attacks settelments and takes them, the other from time to time besiege one (1 in 5 years, eaven if they have 3 full stacks nex to it), but mostli retreat from it, or wait till the besieged get reinforcment, eaven if the attackes could take the settelment in 2 turns.:furious3: (and i mean its obvious they could, like a half stack of legionars besieging a city guarded by 3 warbands units and 1 slinger unit, an they waited 5 turns, till a british full stack came and beaten them off:wall: )

[Warlord 11]

https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/King_Jake/picture001.jpg
My Qarthadast game in winter 252 BC

[Oleo]

and my Carthaginian campaign in 230 BC:

https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3766/karthadastuy2.jpg

[Warlord 11]

My Ptolomaioi game in 220 BC:
https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/King_Jake/picture001-2.jpg

And my great king:
https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/King_Jake/picture001-1.jpg

[Musopticon?]

I know all the other ones, but what does Setepenrameriamen mean?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

You're gonna love the oodles of new ancillaries in the next build. Most all vanilla ones are gone I believe. Although we aren't done with them, there are lots more appropriate ones for the cultures you are in too.

Pretty amazing to have a guy with that many stars Warlord. Good work! :2thumbsup:

[Spendios]

I know all the other ones, but what does Setepenrameriamen mean?

Chosen One of Amun, Beloved of Ra, King of Upper and Lower Egypt

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I don't think people even realize different ptolemaic kings get different Royal Aigyptian Names either, but they do. :grin:

[Musopticon?]

The depth is just crazy. :D

[Aranor]

My Getai campaign at 251 bc.:grin:

https://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3710/getai251bcrg0.th.png (https://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=getai251bcrg0.png)

As you can see the Egyptians are chugging along nicely capturing africa and making strong in roads into arabia. Bactria has started to expand as has the Yuhzi.

Aranor

[CountArach]

Woah! That hurts m eyes to look at... ~;)

Going north is interesting, why did you chose that? Just out of interest.

[Aranor]

The plan is to expand north and hook back down south through the Yehuzi territory into Baktria then hit the Selucids from 2 sides ~D See there is method to my madness. :laugh4:

[Aut Nihil]

That pic hurts my eyes too lol, it's a nice idea to swing arround and end up at baktria, if you don't get attacked by the macedons or epeirotes first though, or sweboz for that matter because most of the time they venture north/northeast as well. I've started a new sweboz campaign for a change instead of my usual eastern campaigns :D

[Aranor]

That pic hurts my eyes too lol, it's a nice idea to swing arround and end up at baktria, if you don't get attacked by the macedons or epeirotes first though, or sweboz for that matter because most of the time they venture north/northeast as well. I've started a new sweboz campaign for a change instead of my usual eastern campaigns :D


Its not the Maks or the Eporites that I have to worry about right now. The Sarmatians have decided to challenge me for the steppes! :furious3: Now I'm building some major horse archer armies to rampage the Sarmatian home lands. :dizzy2:

[paullus]

its not just the new ancillaries, its the new--excellent!--pictures for existing ancillaries, too. really cool stuff, get excited!

[Aut Nihil]

Its not the Maks or the Eporites that I have to worry about right now. The Sarmatians have decided to challenge me for the steppes! :furious3: Now I'm building some major horse archer armies to rampage the Sarmatian home lands. :dizzy2:


Lol well, sarmation lands aren't rich + the fact that their cavalry costs loads of money, i doubt you'll have any problem annihilating them :D
I once tried a Sarmatian campaign but it was almost impossible, possibly because i'm shite ;); but when i economicly became healthy enough to built several stacks of cavalry i got attacked by the hayasdan and i got destroyed ://.

[Aranor]

Well the Sarmatians have proven more difficult that expected to remove from the steppes. I sent 3 full stacks up there. the first was annihilated in a heavy battle with a 6 star general. The other 2 have suffered heavy losses but have being replenished thanks to a steady stream of new units from the homelands. This has allowed me to finally take 3 of the Sarmatian cities with the loss of one of my own. however I plan on taking that one back very soon! :2thumbsup:

The maks have finally decided to attack from the south. But so far have been in effectual in their attacks and i have been able to driv them away from my cities over and over. I have a new army being trained in my capital Sarmizthgethusa and within the next 5 seasons will be ready to move south on Pella. I will post a new screen shot of the campaing map soon. The Yuezi have really beaten the snot out of the Parthians and the Egyptians have taken most of Africa and the middle east! :dizzy2:

EDIT:

Ok heres the state of the world as of the end of my session this morning. Not much new on my front! I have lost the 2 northern most provinces, however one of those is currently under seige and will be mine very soon.:2thumbsup: the other will soon follow. As mentioned above the Yuezi are expanding quite well as are the Bacrians at the expense of the Parthians who are well and truely on the ropes!:skull: There has been little progress by the Maks but i currently have Pella under seige and there has been some pretty sweet battles for the river leading to Byzantion.:2thumbsup: Anyway heres the map!

https://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3844/getai229bctz6.th.png (https://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=getai229bctz6.png)

[Birka Viking]

https://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4549/auduicampagnta3.th.jpg (https://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=auduicampagnta3.jpg)

I play as the Aedui and the year is 197 BC....Sorry for the bad pic but Iam not so good in paint..lol

[Aut Nihil]

Seems like you're doing pretty well Viking :balloon2: , i started a sweboz campaign like two days ago and after 10 years i already control most of central germania, about 7 cities, my goal is to quickly advance to the south and pull up a huge defensive wall against the romans and macedons so i can built my elite forces and attack them when i'm ready :2thumbsup: .

[Birka Viking]

Seems like you're doing pretty well Viking :balloon2: , i started a sweboz campaign like two days ago and after 10 years i already control most of central germania, about 7 cities, my goal is to quickly advance to the south and pull up a huge defensive wall against the romans and macedons so i can built my elite forces and attack them when i'm ready :2thumbsup: .

Well ty man....

The first thing I did was to wipe out the Arveni..Then I started to attack the Romans as fast as possible becouse if u wait to long they become super strong..lol...After many years of hard fight I managed to wipe them out to..lol..Then after that I manage to kick out the Carthaginians from Sicilia..

After my Italian mission I started to fight the Sweboz...It was many hard and intense battles but I defeated them to...Then I started to look west and I invaded Casse with great suces....lol..Iam at the moment in war with the getiai and I also have invadings plans for spain......

One funny thing... do u guys see that bactria is in europe in my campagne...They had a dimplomat who bribed two citys...that was pretty odd...but nice to see...

[Cataclysm]

Hi

Here is a snap of my Karthadast game, year 229BC:

https://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8335/expansionkthep5.th.jpg (https://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=expansionkthep5.jpg)

Note Pontus waaaay out in the western seppes. Have no clue what happened. There aren't any pontic troops there. Must have been bribed but there weren't any diplomats in the area either, and it certainly wouldn't have rebelled to them... ~:confused:

[Tellos Athenaios]

Here's my Koinon Hellon campaign, in the year 244BC:

Wars: Me vs Epeiros, Me vs AS, Me vs Ptolemaioi, Sauromatae vs Hayasdan.
I'm currently allied to nearly all others, and so there aren't any other wars except Everyone vs. Eleutheroi.

The reason for all my wars are foreign aggression towards my peacefull city state alliance...

https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6230/minimap244bcvq8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Note that the Ptolemaioi, the Aedui and the Parthians have bribed settlements.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Wow, Seleucids are keeping you at bay! I suppose not having any real elites will punish you.

The Seleucids are giving me a hard time too. They are at war with the Ptolemaioi, the Ptolemaioi constanly threaten their southern flank, and you know what? They attack me! So I took all of their Asia Minor possesions, which included Tarsos, and Antioch. Then in all of a sudden the Romans attacked me, the Ptolemaioi attacked me, and a little later the Epeirotes attacked me. I pushed the Ptolemaioi out of Asia Minor, took two regions of the Romani and got a ceasefire and a new alliance from them, nearly anihilated the Epeirotes, but now I find myself threatened by nearly all of the standing Seleucid armies. They have just about thrown every single able soldier they could find onto me.

It started with just an invasion army, that fled from my garrison in Antioch without taking even a single casualty (they simply turned, and ran away before the fight had even begun), but one turn later it included stacks of thorakitai (the Seleukids simply love them, and so do I - provided that they don't attack me), spherdonetai (spelling?), pantodapoi, pantodapoi palangitai, pezhetairoi, thanavbarra (again, spelling?), peltastai, and generals. These combined forces amount over 5 full stacks, and that just for one single region, without the funds to properly finance them, and a whole southern flank now vunerable to any invasion, even if it was an invasion of akontistai. :jawdrop:

[Aut Nihil]

Seems like you really pissed them off hehe :p. In my Pontos campaign i'm constantly at war with the seleucids and ptolemaioi, just took karkathiokerta and antioch from the seleucids and salamis from the ptolemaioi. But the Romans are getting close in the west and have all but conquered one of the getai cities. Knowing that i control byzantion and tylis to stop the macedonian advance in asia minor and to secure my west flank, the romans will probably attack me as well so i'll be very busy in about 10 year orso :p.

Still a nice expansion with KH there mate, i'm still playing on easy because of the fact that when i start to play at a higher dificult setting my enemies bribe all my cities and when i have to reconquer them they attack my flanks so, god knows where they get all that money from ://. Andy idea how to stop those bribing diplomat basts by the way?

[Tellos Athenaios]

Well, I smashed the Seleukid armies yesterday... :balloon3: :balloon2: :balloon3:

I got a ceasefire from the Ptolemaioi, so now it's time to advance into their main provinces... :grin:

Against diplomats:
Assasinate them, bribe them, have agents in your towns (agents are relatively expensive to bribe).

[Warlord 11]

https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/King_Jake/Cool.jpg

Carthage in 209BC

I had fought two wars previously and took all of Italy south of Rome. The romans recently declared war again, and so my Iberian army marched on Massillia. I fought a roman fullstack to get the city, and it was a cakewalk compaired to the war against Ptolemaioi. But it is great fun

[Ower]

Cool Hayasdan going South and not rolling through the Steps.

[Olaf The Great]

Koinion hellenon is in a cool spot, seleucia seems to be segmented,
Hayasadan is owning, Macedonia owns Greece..and Parthia is landlocked(Not including Arabia.)

Haha Gallic Christmas colors..

[CountArach]

That is a realy cool campaign Warlord.

Bactria in India, Hayasdan down south, Romans actually expanding, A massive Makedon and an Awesome Sweboz.

All in all, pretty cool.