AGAIN! Mods And Rules...

[Just A Girl]

Due to there being NO Legitemate reason for the 2 threads i have made to be closed.
I will continue to repost This Untill its adressed.

You seem to disslike me even more intensly when i play by the rules,
Make your minds up.....

How do you want this situation to be adressed?
Civilised and respectable?
Or like everything els you guys cant answer,
Close it, Try and ignore it and it may go away.....
Well Never Mind.
Heres the post AGAIN!.

I may use other accounts to post this if needed.
Hopefully It will get adressed 1 way or another,
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Ok.

Again Theses a 2 layer system with the rules in this forum.

Foul language is not acceptable.
And according to Some sticky posts Masking offencive language with * are not acceptable.

However.
I have noticed Mod's Or 1 mod in particular Who Seems to Constantly breich these rules.

With statemnts such as
"Bastard"
"same Shit"
and
"*****"

Ive Pm'd the mod in question about his breich of rules,
And his reply was.

"as you are no longer a part for the front room family Your oppinion does not matter"
(or similar words to that effect)

So i informed the mod that a complaint must then be made against him.

And with the way this forum works. If id have gone straight to tosa id get ignored.
So heres my complaint

And theres no prizes for guessing who im on about.
starts with a B ends wilth eirut.

This moderator needs to lead by example,
And if this is the example he choses to set, No wonder so many front room topics need to be closed.

P.s

I waited over a week to see if hed actualy Think about what hes doing.
It seems he is incapable of any other thought other than what he has in his head,
theres no reasoning with the guy.

I sudgest you Start up a moderator training program.
Cos at this rate the mods swear and break more rules than the paytrons.

Thnx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Just A Girl
And theres no prizes for guessing who im on about.
starts with a B ends wilth eirut.

Who'd have thought it, eh?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
Who'd have thought it, eh?



Before you guys start Trolling AGAIN!
Why dont you just stop replying to these posts.

Therte in the right place
About the right things,
Conforming with forum rules

Any Insults posted in this thread Will be reported

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Just A Girl
Before you guys start Trolling AGAIN!
Why dont you just stop replying to these posts.

Therte in the right place
About the right things,
Conforming with forum rules

I agree. This is the right place for you to post your views on the matter, and for me to post mine; if you consider that trolling you've obviously got a very broad view of the meaning of trolling.

Considering the moderator in question, I think you'll find there are very few people on these forums who share your opinion of his supposed ineptness for the position. All things considered, particularly the actions which led to your temporary banning, he and the rest of the mod team been remarkably lenient with you and your postings under a different name. Throwing that back in their faces by flaunting the rules and openly ignoring the sanctions put upon where you can post is extremely disrespectful in my opinion.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
I agree. This is the right place for you to post your views on the matter, and for me to post mine; if you consider that trolling you've obviously got a very broad view of the meaning of trolling.

Considering the moderator in question, I think you'll find there are very few people on these forums who share your opinion of his supposed ineptness for the position. All things considered, particularly the actions which led to your temporary banning, he and the rest of the mod team been remarkably lenient with you and your postings under a different name. Throwing that back in their faces by flaunting the rules and openly ignoring the sanctions put upon where you can post is extremely disrespectful in my opinion.



To start it If it wasnt for beiruts Pig ignorance for others oppinions The 1st incident would not have occured,
"Note That what i said to him about Political Correctness was then Enforced Even though He wished to Try and tell me He was right"

So although I was Wrong in doing what i did,
My reasons were Just, And The forum staff fixed What beirut refused to acknowlage


if you continue to wish to drag that up then so be it.
But really.
Your just looking for a reason to troll.

I also said Before you start to troll. Not That you were trolling,
AND I have not defied the sanctions Imposed on my posting abilaty.
So at the end of the day,
get ya facts straight Before starting to stir up trouble

This thread Hasnt even been replied to by a mod yet and Already your antagonizing a fight.
This is what i call Trolling,

Your stating Incorect assumptions and as facts. And diging up the past To try and cast a bad light on my post.
You Instantly Referenced 2 Totaly irelivant Points That Would be stricken from the record in any court of law as they are So irelivant to the matter.
That Is also Trolling.

if you would not mind.. I would apretiate it if you do me and you favour and dont reply again.(Unless relivant)
As we both see what we both mean, And this concerns Beirut His inabilaty to follow rules, and The forum staff. (NOTHING ELS)

Your input is of course welcome,
But The same Tierd Old You did this months ago Stuff Is Quite Petty,

Your draging up Irelivant matters that dont concern this matter becous of your inabilaty to defend his Briech of rules,
So Instead of defending beirut Your Preparing to attack me for something i did 1ce Whic still does not concern this topic.
AGAIN this is Trolling.

Now i may not sound as if im being polite here But I Am.

This matter Is totaly independant of any other incident, Your inabilaty to difirentiate between them Should not be The Topic of discussion.
So Try not to Bring up irellivant Stuff again.

Thanx.


P.S

Im playing by the rules.
If others dont then i dont see why I should.
And if a moderator Can disregard the rules,
then obviously Every 1 can.


P.p.s

I have this all copyd and pasted in a note pad So it will take only a second to 2 to post,

[Beirut]

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/horsesass/pigmud.jpg

[Just A Girl]

:)
Well its not ment as an insult its Just an expression.
Please sort this stuff out beirut.

Like i told you in PM's
I think you have potential to be a good mod,
So Please atleast try to follow the rules.
It would make it easier for me to do so.

[Geoffrey S]

One quick question, do you want to be adressed as Just A Girl or ShambleS?

[Just A Girl]

Obviously ShambleS....
But thats not the case for discussion.

Just a girl is Trish's account.
All i would like Is for The mods to practice what they preach,
Im not good at bowing down to hypocryts
If you tell me not to do something and then do it your self,
you can prety much guarantee i will then disregard the fact that you told me not to do it,

Im not a do as i say not as i do person.

I dont mind following rules.
But if theres 2 rule books
1 for patrons,
then 1 That mods can change as they like to suit them selfs.
Its easy enough to make a 3rd that suits me.

Thats not a threat by the way before i get suspended again,
Its just something that i noticed.

[Templar Knight]

Remember you are a guest :book:

[Just A Girl]

End of the day is,
Mods are here to police us,

In real life if Police break the law Ther get punished or More training,
Failure to do so leads to Riots like in france.

But here.
It seems like you Just dont care if Mods Breich the rules.
And that They can police them selfs And proclaim them selfs Inocent,

AND then close threads that They cant Answer without Literaly saying We can break the rules if we want to.

Id like to see what would happen In real life if Police thought they could get away with that.

Although Here In the watchtower Weve been given a medium to discuss matters of this sort,
Funny how they keep geting closed with no reply.

Ive heard about this stuff happening in the past,
And the more i stay here The more i relize How right every 1 els is about The org,
When All i do is defend the place. when ever we discuss the matter.

[InsaneApache]

ShambleS drop it lad. This will go nowhere, as the last few threads about this have shown.

A bit of advice.

Either do what it takes to make friends with Beirut, or just stay out of his way. As I said one or two threads ago, this is getting tiresome.

:wall:

[Templar Knight]

You cant go and make another set of rules for yourself, you will just loose credibility for your argument. Like I said we are all guests, we follow the rules set by the owners, if you don't like them then leave. If any mods are breaking the rules then I am sure It will be looked into. Have fun or leave.

[Redleg]

Having argued myself once or twice with the moderators, I can understand your feelings on this, however without writting the issue down in a way that can be easily understood, you are opening yourself up for a case of mis-understanding of what your arguement is about. What is obvious from your posts is that instead of addressing the issue at hand you challenge the moderator in question with ad hominem arguements. Not a very good way to present your case. Poor sentence and paragraph scructure coupled with personal attacks do not bode well for your presentation.


Having read the complete post, it seems to me that you have more of a personal problem with Beriut and the way he moderates because its directed at yourself because of the way you post, the content of your posts, and the fact that for all practical purposes you are using a highjacked account. (I know its borrowed, but its one you have been using as your own.) Violations of the rules have a tendency to compound themselves especially when the individual complaining about moderator actions continues to violate the rules himself, ie language, content, and a highjacked accounted.

A word of advice that went a long way to solving my issues with the moderators, a little give from both sides will help but the first step must be taken by the patron not the adminstrator of the board, it is his board after all. Sending the issue to Tosa in a polite PM, well thought out and in a concise and easy to follow arguement, normally will result to Tosa getting back with you when he can, its not always fast, but he does get back to you.

[Ja'chyra]

I really don't get you at all. Yous hould have been banned for life for what you did but the mods decide to go easy on you and all you do is complain about B. I'm telling you this, he has more patience than me, I would have binned you months ago.

[Just A Girl]

I really don't get you at all. Yous hould have been banned for life for what you did but the mods decide to go easy on you and all you do is complain about B. I'm telling you this, he has more patience than me, I would have binned you months ago.

They DID ban my account....
But they cant ban my IP.

And thats probably why im still here.

But never the less, Yopu Guys cant seem to let things drop,
Which i spose is to be expected.
Maby if you moove on You can then Try to comprehend what this thread is about..

So Drop The old You did this I feel Sick Bull.
It was a pixilated picture of virtualy nothing with an obscene sentance on it,
SO WHAT!
You guys need to moove on and get a grip.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR GREIVANCES WITH ME.
Make A new thread or stop trolling,
Your breaching forum rules..


And red leg.

If the mods are allowed to type profanatys and Mask them other occasions,
then So can we.
Whats the point in telling people to keep the place Respectable if you have Beirut Saying "Bastard" and "Same Shit" And "Biggest ****** Tv"

Why shoul patrons not do the same, The place is already full of profanaty by beirut.
So whats the diference between a mod doing it and a Member doing it In the Eyes of a new member.

I think this is beond some of the people in this thread,
And am prepering my self for the same old.

"You posted nastyness Boo hoo"
"I dont like you I dont even know you"
I mean you guys are Proper Trolls.

This matter has nothing to do with any of the other m,atters
And as you have no defence for beirut You attack me,

It really is Pitifull.

P.S

You can say what you like about how i type and spell and structure my sentances.
Dont make no diference to me . You can read it So what do you care.

[Gregoshi]

Good advice Redleg. To add on to what Redleg is suggesting, it might also help you to send the text of a PM to a couple of your Org friends or other patrons you respect and ask for feedback in the presentation of your points before you send it to the actual recepient. Often it is easy to overlook wording that may come across differently than what you intended. When we proof read our own writing, we don't just read the bare words. Our mind tends to add more meanings to the words than we actually wrote. A proof-reader isn't inside your head, so they only see the words as they are on the screen. They can catch unclear or potentially mis-interpreted statements before they get to the intended recepient and possibly make things worse. Just some food for thought.

[Just A Girl]

I dont know Guys.

I mean Which part of IF I PM Tossa He Ignores it didnt you comprehend?

I dont have a prob doing stuff the oficial way As you can see By the fact im in here posting,

And not Filling the site with beirut does this n that stuff.

And you can all see how well that works cant you :wall:

Any where els some 1 would look in to the matter,
But here Theres Just been 2 closed threads.
And No acknowlage ment to the thread.

Easier to close therads than for beirut to admit im probably right and readress his stance on posting profanaty.

Well thats how she goes i guess.
Hope every 1 takes notes.

[InsaneApache]

But never the less, Yopu Guys cant seem to let things drop,
Which i spose is to be expected.

You started this thread. Listen to Redleg and Greg. they are trying to help you. Believe it or not.

[Geoffrey S]

But never the less, Yopu Guys cant seem to let things drop,
Which i spose is to be expected.
Please try looking at your own posts, your consistent ad hominem attacks, and understand how they look to others.

Any where els some 1 would look in to the matter,
But here Theres Just been 2 closed threads
Anywhere else you'd have been banned entirely long ago. Really, people are trying to help you, you've been shown a lot of leniency considering what you did; count yourself fortunate that they've let you stay at all.

Take your time, and stay polite. That's the best way to getting your case heard, and the best way of improving your chances. Read Redleg's and Gregoshi's posts, their advise is excellent and very useful. And remember that as Templar Knight said, you are a guest here, and that the moderating team does (and should!) have the final say in such matters as this.

[Strike For The South]

For christs sake this is an internet fourm not a life or death

[Just A Girl]

Its all a matter of principals.

It may be hard for some to understand.

[Gregoshi]

ShambleS ,your approach obviously isn't working yet it seems you are unwilling to change your ways or means in order to make it work. Redleg has given you some good advice if you wish to pursue the communications route, but you have discounted it from the get-go. If the Way is blocked, find another Way instead of just :wall: by repeating the same failed methods. Situations such as yours come up 2-3 times a year and too often they follow the same patterns - so much so I wonder if there is a manual for it somewhere on the internet. The gist of it is that in these cases, it is the patron that must change and they must realize that it is they that must change. If they don't recognize they did anything wrong, they are bound to repeat the same mistake again. That is most likely why you aren't getting a reply to your PMs. To your credit, you at least appear to recognize half your mistake.

As I recall, what started you down the road you are on is not what happened to you, but what didn't happen to others - a double standard to your way of thinking. After all you have been through, you are still on that road pointing out where others have done things that you were punished for. It is not a road that will lead you to Org Nirvana. What you really need to do is be concerned for your own behaviour only. Forget about what other patrons are doing. Follow the forum rules and be a good patron. If another patron breaks a rule, whether they are punished or not, be satisfied to know that at least you don't do that. Just because others break a rule doesn't make it okay to break it. Understand that and be happy you are being a good patron. :angel:

Please take this advice in the spirit in which it is offered.