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Wandarah
01-17-2006, 01:51
Howdy,

I'm playing as Koinky Hellsbums. Anyway, it's about 220bc, and I've wiped out Macedon, Epeiros (they still have thier province in southern Italy) and I've taken some provinces in Asia minor. I'm allied with Pontus, recently declared peace with the Ptolemaics and gotten trade rights (gotta love Salamis).

I'm now running 3 stacks of excellent troops and have enough surplus to play around with. Nothing much was happening for many years, until my spys had noticed that the Romans were moving into what I guess would be called Illyria.

They blockaded a port, I moved a stack into the passes on the west coast of Epeiros, they retreated, I followed, and suddenly another 1/2 stack of Romans showed up and attacked me in the pass. I won the battle with heavy casualties and retreated.

Then, a literal shitestorm of Roman troops started vomiting out of the top of Northern Italy. I did the same from Southern Greece, what followed was 2 or 3 years of fiegnting, retreating and attempting assasination attempts. I knew that there was no way I could continue to produce troops of a quality high enough to compete with the Romans however. So I needed a quick way to end the war.

I bought my Navy round between Italy and Epeiros and caused Havoc on thier small navy. In the same year, I won 2 heroic victories in Illyria against them, but could see more troops rolling in than I had. One family member crossed the border into neutral Dacia and recruited a pile of heavy infantry, then ran for the coast where my Navy was. The other family member headed back down to the cities in Epeiros to resupply.

The next year I piled one of the guys onto my ships, and crossed into Italy, my family member running for the coast had to wait another turn before he could be picked up, he won 2 battles with his back to the sea - but now had almost no heavy infantry left. The next Roman attack would finish him.

Next turn, I besieged Cannae and headed back with my navy to pick up the remainder of my now shattered army off the coast of Illyria, who once picked them up had moved back down to Southern Greece to resupply.

Of course, I burnt Cannae to the ground, exterminated the populace and moved straight onto Capua. By this stage my spies could see Roman troops moving away from the Roman/Greece/Dacian borders and heading back into Northern Italy, presumably to stop me sacking everything in my path. They also moved into Epeiros and besieged a city there.

My army in Italy would sack the town, but eventually be destroyed if I figured. I had enough resources for another decent army, but that would take time. If I lost this army entirely I'd be very hard pressed to defend against the Romans.

So, playing my chances, I sacked Capua, then the next turn moved onto Rome laying siege to that. That same turn I got a diplomat to the last remaining Epeirot province, and gave them Cannae and Capua as gifts. They accepted, I then got a ceasefire and trade rights out of them.

Then, with my army on the walls of Rome, I asked the Romans for a ceasefire and 10,000 and trade rights. They accepted. So, in one swoop I'd managed to break the economic back of Rome, give thier richest lands to my other enemy in exchange for a ceasefire and lucrative traderights, without making them large enough to be a threat and press Rome for cash and trade rights also. Not to mention the 55k or so I got from the sack of Capua and Cannae.

My next move is to ask the Aedui(sp?), a protectorate of Rome, to join me instead.

What I love about EB so far is the difficulty in waging war, and the sense of achievement you get when you eventually break the back of the enemy.

I should've been playing this from the start.

P.S I should mention that all my family members have the text 'Died of the plauge in Year, Died in Year', so I'm assuming theres a woopsie with whatever makes it say 'Born in Year', instead...unless they have infact died twice. Could anyone tell me how to fix that?

Dayve
01-17-2006, 02:14
It's being fixed in the next patch i think, but they already know about it and know how to fix it.

Sounds like a fun campaign! I started one as the KH not too long back but left it when i discovered it would be about 60 turns before i could produce some decent soldiers... Then when i finally could produce them their description told me that in real life they would only make up a tiny percentage of a Greek army but i wanted to use full stacks of them and by god i had the money to do it but it wouldn't feel right knowing it was unrealistic... Plus Sparte can't recruit anything but skirmishers... And no Spartan hoplites yet! :shame:

Wandarah
01-17-2006, 02:27
The standard hoplites can do just fine at the start of the game I tells ya! I have a full army of high end troops walking around in total. Costs me a fortune too. Unhistorical? Pah! I need them to compete with the Roman troops.

Ypoknons
01-17-2006, 03:46
I need them to compete with the Roman troops.
Part of the reason for playing a game is to play "what if" scenarios, and there's always going to be ahistorical aspects to that. If you play Konion Hellnon the historical thing is that you get beaten by Macdedon early on, but if you do better that in the game, then there's no reason why a resurgent and very wealthy Greece wouldn't have armored hoplites running around all over the place.

Wandarah
01-17-2006, 03:58
Well, yes? What? Huh?

Reverend Joe
01-17-2006, 04:11
Only the setup is historical. If Greece had gone down the road you are taking it, the legion would be all but forgotten today ("The legion? Pah! A futile exercise in barbarian technology. No match for the phalanx!"), and the phalanx hoplite would be the "dominant and unchallenged military weapon of the entire post-Bronze age world."

Starting to freak you out? :dizzy2:

VandalCarthage
01-17-2006, 05:00
Koinky Hellsbums

I just want you to know, that this made my whole day worthwhile ~D I'm going to start a biker gang named "Koinky Hellsbums" now.

Brilliant! ~:cheers:

Warlord 11
01-17-2006, 06:29
I just want you to know, that this made my whole day worthwhile ~D I'm going to start a biker gang named "Koinky Hellsbums" now.

Brilliant! ~:cheers:

Can I join?:laugh4:

nic
01-17-2006, 22:48
I'm having a sweet campaign as Casse. I've got to say I think this is the best RTW mod there is. Can't wait for the next version. Keep it up devs!