View Full Version : Name any really good game
Mount Suribachi
01-18-2006, 14:45
That hasn't had a sequel....
Saw this question on another forum, generated a pretty good discussion.
The only ones that most folk could agree on where...
Mafia
and
Grim Fandango
People also mentioned Fable and Far Cry, but they're both too recent IMO.
Planescape Torment? Well, maybe I'm cheating here, as although it is very highly critically acclaimed, personally I don't actually think it is very good (too morbid and grungy for my taste).
It may be premature, but I would also mention Vampire Bloodlines - absolutely outstanding game, unlikely to get a sequel because it bankrupted the company that made it.
No, I think you have a good point - nearly all really good games either have sequels or are themselves sequels. Of course, there are quite some very good sequels that have not spawned further ones in the series - Imperialism 2 and System Shock 2 come to mind.
Sjakihata
01-18-2006, 15:34
Americas Army has no sequel, though it keeps getting patched.
Starcraft is not really a sequel or has one either. Yet.
The Scourge
01-18-2006, 17:28
Planescape Torment? Well, maybe I'm cheating here, as although it is very highly critically acclaimed, personally I don't actually think it is very good (too morbid and grungy for my taste).
It may be premature, but I would also mention Vampire Bloodlines - absolutely outstanding game, unlikely to get a sequel because it bankrupted the company that made it.
No, I think you have a good point - nearly all really good games either have sequels or are themselves sequels. Of course, there are quite some very good sequels that have not spawned further ones in the series - Imperialism 2 and System Shock 2 come to mind.
Wasn't bloodlines it's self a sequel ?
Reverend Joe
01-18-2006, 19:02
Ascendancy. Enough said.
Depends on what you call a sequel, there was no sequel to ATF(Advanced Tactical Fighters) though Janes´ Fighters Anthology looks too similar to not have the same engine, I think. If you say same engine, different name is a sequel, then Hidden and Dangerous 2 would be a sequel to Mafia.:dizzy2:
Because that can´t be, I agree on Mafia.~D
And I really hope you´re not implying that all sequels were bad(don´t think so, just in case...)
Mikeus Caesar
01-18-2006, 21:21
Tribes 2. That definately deserved a sequel.
And don't mention Tribes: Vengeance. For one that was a prequel, but it was so crap it has been disowned as a tribes game by most of the community.
Wasn't bloodlines it's self a sequel ?
Yes, I suppose it was. But Vampire Redemption was made by a different company and I gather it was mainly a kind of hack n slash thing. The beauty of Bloodlines is all the non-hack n slash content - the NPC characters, the sidequests, the atmosphere and immersion, the character development possibilities etc. (When it reverts to linear hack and slash at the end, it gets dull.)
Alexander the Pretty Good
01-18-2006, 22:20
Do expansion packs count as sequels?
Armed and Dangerous. Short, 3rd-person shooter, hilarious. Get it for the humor, not the graphics (not too good) nor the gameplay (OK). It is funny.
Eternal Darkness.
It may be premature, but I would also mention Vampire Bloodlines - absolutely outstanding game, unlikely to get a sequel because it bankrupted the company that made it.
That was definitely an outstanding game as well. I havent felt that level of immersion in a game since. The haunted hotel area freaked me out the first time through.
Mongoose
01-19-2006, 03:35
Alpha Centuri.
Zalmoxis
01-19-2006, 03:50
Can't really think of anything good without sequels.
Reverend Joe
01-19-2006, 04:22
"When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ball-point pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat this problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C.
The Russians used a pencil."
I hate to go off-topic, but Zalmoxis, are you Russian? Because that is why I love Russia. :laugh4:
The haunted hotel area freaked me out the first time through.Me too. I literally felt a tingle down my spine and I clearly remember thinking, 'Wow, it isn't just a cliche!' I loitered in some of the rooms, just to savour the feeling. And the basement, with that boiler room! Awesome!
Somebody must own the rights to the game, now, even if it is just a creditor. It would be madness for them not to do something with it, IMHO.
Strife! It's a game from 1996 and truly an amazing game for it's time!
It's an action/rpg with an excellent story and gameplay (I.M.O.)! You can for example use a certain device which when deployed acts as a teleporter through which allied soldiers/rebels come and aid you in battle. I thought that was great! The voice acting is also done really good! It's a shooter unlike any I have ever played till this day, non seem to be able to compete with it. Ah.. the nostalgia just thinking about it!
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/strife/ - Gamespot rated this game waaayyyy too low!
Mount Suribachi
01-19-2006, 11:25
Alpha Centuri.
Don't think that counts, its just another Civ game by Firaxis, but set in space
(btw when I say "just", I'm not dissing the game, its one of my favourites of all time)
Sacrifice. Brilliant game, one of my all time favorites. Awesome music, great sense of (nasty)humour, challenging gameplay, AMAZING graphics.
System Shock 2 come to mind.
Guess what this is :2thumbsup:
http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/924919_20041008_screen003.jpg
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes........
Severance Blade of Darkness. Great physics, good story (somewhat cliche), cool characters and awesome combat.
Perhaps Arcanum, good RPG in orignal setting, kinda Fallout meets D&D.
Severance Blade of Darkness. Great physics, good story (somewhat cliche), cool characters and awesome combat.Ya know, I was just playing that again a few days ago- the graphics have held up very well considering how old it is. I thought it was a unique approach to hack&slash- too bad there aren't more like it.
King Kurt
01-19-2006, 13:21
Carriers at War - a great game for the Commodore 64 from about 1988!! It was about the carrier battles in the Pacific and was magnificent. I am constantly amazed that there is not a modern day equivalient - the subject is just made for computer gaming. The nearest equivalent tends to be flight sims with a Pacific flavour - nobody does a strategic/ tactical game a la Total War - shame, shame, shame
By the way, good to see some praise for Alpha Centuri - an excellent game - I had many a fine hour with Susan the Terrible - my spartan leader.:dizzy2:
Just A Girl
01-19-2006, 13:25
Resident Evil.
Grand theft auto.
Resident Evil.
Grand theft auto.
Uhmmmm, resident evil 2,3,4 codeveronica, REmake did I forget one? GTA2, London, GTA3, VC, SA?
Someone didn't read the thread description :inquisitive:
Just A Girl
01-19-2006, 13:28
Oh WITHOUT. Sequel...
Hmmm....
Well I really liked. Spy vs Spy on the nes.
or
z steel warrior by the bit map brothers on the SNES.
(z is well worth findnig although i beleve its a 16 bit app so may not run well on pc's)
Those were great games,
with no sequels.
Geoffrey S
01-19-2006, 17:11
Outcast. Stunning game, really deserved a sequel. Also Eternal Darkness, Mafia, Alpha Centauri, Pilotwings 64 (although that was itself kind of a sequel).
Mount Suribachi
01-19-2006, 17:54
Well I really liked. Spy vs Spy on the nes.
Spy vs Spy was a ZX Spectrum game in the mid 80s, way before NES. And I'm pretty sure there was a Spy vs Spy 2 on the PC in the late 90s.
FesterShinetop
01-19-2006, 18:05
Spy vs Spy was a ZX Spectrum game in the mid 80s, way before NES. And I'm pretty sure there was a Spy vs Spy 2 on the PC in the late 90s.
I even had Spy vs. Spy 2 on my Atari 600XL
How about Grand Prix Legends?
Outcast. Stunning game, really deserved a sequel.
Sadly cancelled. I made the mistake of ignoring this game untill recently because of the pixelated low resolution graphics (hey I just bought my voodoo and quake 2 was there), and I have to say this is one of the best adventuregames ever. The music is a bit heavy, almost vulgar sometimes, but the gameworld is totally convincing. Really a game to sink your teeth in and enjoy the meal, even if the main character was a bit annoying.
Guess what this is :2thumbsup:
http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/924919_20041008_screen003.jpg
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes........
ARGHHHHHHHHHH
She is back! Run for your lives!
Go save your sanity. Don't buy it or you will die of a heartattack.
ARGHHHHHHHHHH
She is back! Run for your lives!
Go save your sanity. Don't buy it or you will die of a heartattack.
Life is good sometimes isn't it :2thumbsup:
I doubt our favourite femme fatale will be in it, but the term 'spiritual succesor of system shock 2' has me dripping with anticipation. Little Fragony's need lots of meat. It is made by the same people, with these graphics I am not sure if I will ever recover. If there is any game that I would love to get my hands on, this one would be it.
Life is good sometimes isn't it :2thumbsup:
I doubt our favourite femme fatale will be in it, but the term 'spiritual succesor of system shock 2' has me dripping with anticipation. Little Fragony's need lots of meat. It is made by the same people, with these graphics I am not sure if I will ever recover. If there is any game that I would love to get my hands on, this one would be it.
:embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
Serious? But she got away...
doc_bean
01-19-2006, 19:28
Colonization ?
Pirates! has had a remake but not a real sequel.
:embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
Serious? But she got away...
It would be repeating the biggest shock in videogame history ever if she joined the fray, it could be nowhere as dramatic as that particular scene where she shows up in part deux. Maybe some references to catidel station and the von Braun and what happened there, but I think a new story would be better. Since they call it a spiritual succesor I think that is what they are doing. Maybe for the better, that insane metal voice still haunts me :sweatdrop:
Just A Girl
01-19-2006, 20:25
spy vs spy had a sequel?
Mumble's profanity about notbeing told anything.
The Blind King of Bohemia
01-19-2006, 20:44
A game that is class? Get the Warriors, now that is a game
Colonization ?
Ohhh... How I would love a sequel to that one, or just a remake. I was one of the most perfect and simple economic models ever.
Simplicity and basic stuff... It worked perfectly there, and who can forget the good tribal music?
Frag, she got away... she became human remember. "honey, what is wrong with your hair?" Arrogant and quite selfpromoting voice "Oh nothing dear."
doc_bean
01-21-2006, 00:48
Total Annihilation, possibly the greatest RTS game ever, never got a proper sequel, there was TA: Kingdoms but that' like Annihilation to Warcraft (except the other way around).
Sjakihata
01-21-2006, 10:26
Oh man, I forgot about Total Annihalition untill now. Yes, that's a good game, and was really ahead of its time when it was released.
http://www.shonner.com/ta/images/tasplash_big.gif
doesnt this bring back memories?
Mithrandir
01-21-2006, 14:55
Severance Blade of Darkness.
Nuff said.
doc_bean
01-21-2006, 20:24
Oh man, I forgot about Total Annihalition untill now. Yes, that's a good game, and was really ahead of its time when it was released.
I got so nostalgic I installed it again. It's clear that it's dated, but it's still pretty fun :2thumbsup:
Just A Girl
01-25-2006, 14:02
I think i still have total anialation around here some where ( I was given it for free when i signed up to compuserve 56K Server a number of Years ago)
I dont think i ever realy played it,
I already had aoe.
And some other game i really liked...
I dont think i remember its name.
7 kingdoms ancient advisarys ?
that was a good game.
As well as the usual RTS game,
You had to build things next to the gray peopls buildings. then theyd see you were protecting them and become people you controlled.
I dont know if it had a sequel.
And maby ive got the name wrong any way.
Aw, no one played Base Wars?! I'll have to elaborate myself.
I can't remember if you're a baseball mang or not, Zorba, but it's a baseball game. Only picture this: all the times are entirely composed of androids. Beyond the normal, bipedal robot, there's a robot with different lower torsos - a unicycle wheel (think one-wheeled motorbike), tank treads, and a hoverbot. The game is played as normal, except when a runner arrives at a base where he would otherwise be tagged. Instead of being called out, the two robots fight it out. If the runner wins, he's safe and can keep running. If he loses, he's out.
The game supports several pre-made teams, two custom ones, two-player multiplayer and a season mode where you can trade for, upgrade and purchase new gear (extendo-fists, laser guns, techno-swords...) for your team.
Aaand it's on the NES.
Historyline 1914-1918 by BlueByte. Though technically that was kind of an evolution of the Battle Isle series. I was hoping they would make a "Historyline" series out of that, but it never happened.
There's debate over the quality of Evil Genius, but I thought it was an entertaining game and it won't be getting a sequel.
Temple of Elemental Evil is also debatable. Easily the truest D&D conversion ever made for the PC, though so horribly bugged that it nearly impossible to finish. As with Bloodlines, it won't be getting a sequel since Troika went belly up.
doc_bean
01-26-2006, 18:37
I dont think i ever realy played it,
I already had aoe.
That's like declining a Porsche because you already have a Lada :dizzy2:
Strike Commander, it never got a sequel. Dito Operation Flashpoint, as far as I know. Both got expansion packs, but no sequels.
Dito Operation Flashpoint, as far as I know.
The sequel is coming, I believe.
Temple of Elemental Evil is also debatable. Easily the truest D&D conversion ever made for the PC...
But so horribly boring, I found. It reminded me that what made D&D pen and paper fun was interacting with your friends. Hacking and slashing alone becomes just mind-numbing. The best D&D type games - BG2, KOTOR, PST etc- take the rules set to get solid game mechanics but focus on quests, characterisation, story and atmosphere to make them come alive.
I am still amazed that Troika could produce a game with rock solid mechanics but no character (ToEE) and games that oozed character but had dodgy mechanics (Arcanum). With Vampires, they finally got the porridge just right and were rewarded by Goldilocks, the dumb consumer, breaking their company. :no:
I am still amazed that Troika could produce a game with rock solid mechanics but no character (ToEE) and games that oozed character but had dodgy mechanics (Arcanum). With Vampires, they finally got the porridge just right and were rewarded by Goldilocks, the dumb consumer, breaking their company. :no:
Though largely the fault of their production companies, Vampire and ToEE were both so horribly bug-ridden that it's not surprising they went under. I guess I have a fondness for 2D top down view D&D RPGs. I wish everything could be the Baldur's Gate games. Easily the most entertaining gaming experience I've ever had was playing BG right through from the first through the second with both expansions. Few games capture such an epic storyline.
/me prays for Oblivion
Meneldil
01-28-2006, 17:14
Eternal Darkness : Sanity's Requiem. There was rumors about a sequel called Eternal Darkness : Sanity's Redeption, mainly because a hidden cutscene was a real preview. Yet, and unhappilly, nothing showed up lately. Dunno what happened to Silicon Knights, but it's impossible to send them any mail.
Another already mentioned game is Total Annihilation. There was a Total Annihilation Kingdom, but it was not that great. There also a Something Commanders, made by the guy who made TA, and that kinda looks like TA.
doc_bean
01-28-2006, 20:29
Another already mentioned game is Total Annihilation.
that would have been me.
There was a Total Annihilation Kingdom, but it was not that great.
I know, i don't really consider it a sequel, more as a Warcraft/Starcraft thing.
There also a Something Commanders, made by the guy who made TA, and that kinda looks like TA.
Supreme Commander, but it isn't a true sequel is it :bow:
And while I'm in this thread:
Duke Nukem 3d
Meneldil
01-28-2006, 21:33
that would have been me.
Well, yeah, I meant 'another game mentioned previously'
Supreme Commander, but it isn't a true sequel is it :bow:
Not really, but according to the few interviews and info I read, it will look like TA, sound like TA, feel like TA and taste like TA, simply with more units and huge warmachines.
I think the guy didn't call it TA II simply because the name was copyrighted.
doc_bean
01-28-2006, 21:56
Not really, but according to the few interviews and info I read, it will look like TA, sound like TA, feel like TA and taste like TA, simply with more units and huge warmachines.
I think the guy didn't call it TA II simply because the name was copyrighted.
That might be true, but this a thread about things like that anyway. How many good games don't get ripped of by another game in one way or another ?
EDIT: was Starcraft already mentioned in this thread ?
AntiochusIII
01-29-2006, 12:26
Flawed, but awesome while it lasted, not to mention all the British humor which left me laughing my eyes off.
Giant: Citizen Kabuto.
Cronos Impera
01-29-2006, 13:24
Myht The Fallen Lords, Myth 2, Myth 3 and Aquanox2.
https://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6779/cover6yh.th.jpg (https://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cover6yh.jpg)
Eternal Darkness : Sanity's Requiem. There was rumors about a sequel called Eternal Darkness : Sanity's Redeption, mainly because a hidden cutscene was a real preview. Yet, and unhappilly, nothing showed up lately. Dunno what happened to Silicon Knights, but it's impossible to send them any mail.They worked on Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes and have since broke exclusivity with Nintendo :no: and are working on 'Too Human' for the XB.
Meneldil
01-29-2006, 17:45
Darn, I want my ED II ! This game is the best I ever played. I sent a mail asking their site's webmaster if it was still in the planning. I'll probably not get an answer, but heh.
They can release it on PS3, XB360 or whatever, I'll buy the console just to play the game.
Edit : BTW, have you seen the ED movies, featured on this site (http://www.eternaldarkness.com/films/) ?
ED was without a doubt the best horror genre game I played on a console. RE4 came close- but I'd still give ED the nod. :bow:
Darn, I want my ED II ! This game is the best I ever played. I sent a mail asking their site's webmaster if it was still in the planning. I'll probably not get an answer, but heh.
They can release it on PS3, XB360 or whatever, I'll buy the console just to play the game.
Edit : BTW, have you seen the ED movies, featured on this site (http://www.eternaldarkness.com/films/) ?
I believe it is still planned for release, at least I hope it is. Great game indeed, just so .... evil. A it low on challenge later on but that didn't stop me from having to dread each new area I had to beat just because of these horrible sounds.
btw, you may like the Silent Hill series if you liked Eternal Darkness. Not quite in the same lague, but it is entertaining and deliciously sick.
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