Guy announces suicide on Gamefaqs.

[Fragony]

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000075&topic=25527152&page=0

Dunno why this gets to me the way it does, very sad :no:

[econ21]

Dunno why this gets to me the way it does,

I share your feelings. Maybe John Donne explained it best:

"No man is an island, entire of itself;
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
....
Any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind..."

[Kongamato]

The event is unfortunate, and the need to announce it shows that maybe this person wanted some help more than death.

I learned about this from YTMND, and the people over there are just ruthless with the memory of these individuals. They turned myspace suicide Josh Ballard into a laughingstock and now they are starting on this guy also. They ought to stop joking when somebody dies like this.

[Sardo]

He actually broadcast the whole thing on his webcam. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060118/tc_afp/bulgariausinternet) Swallowing motor antifreeze and pills, spending the next six hours on the internet complaining of the pain and only then being rushed to a hospital to finally die is not a nice way to go. :no:

What's almost sadder, is the despicably disgraceful behaviour of so many people thinking they should turn this into comedy. Such fine subcultures on the internet.

[Fragony]

That is kind of exhibitionistic, I think Kongamato is right when he said it was just a cry for help. Now he died with the thought that nobody cared to call the police when he was publicly dying, I find this very disturbing :shame:

[DemonArchangel]

Kudjo105, rest in peace.

[GoreBag]

I'm going to be the bad guy and denounce his one last cry for pity.

[Samurai Waki]

Only after you've been through that kind of hell could you possibly ever understand it. I have been.

Wake up every morning with sunshine in your eyes and not a care in the world, your body is at rest, and your life is only beginning.

R.I.P

[Zalmoxis]

Did he actually die, was it confirmed?

[Samurai Waki]

Did he actually die, was it confirmed?

Yes.

http://www.wiu.edu/newsrelease.sphp?release_id=4087

http://www.dailydem.com/articles/2006/01/06/obits/obit3.txt

http://www.thehawkeye.com/daily/stories/ob10_0106.html

[Divinus Arma]

Wow.

Regarding suicide; I don't think suiciders want to die, they just want their pain to end. They think that death is the only escape.

This is a particularly interesting case because of the announcement and webcast. He didn't want to die. He wanted help. He probably had few or no real friends and so reached out to a community he considered close to him.

We get regular training in the U.S. military on this since suicide is a not uncommon way to die.


It is a shame.

[Kralizec]

Very sad ~:(

Very sick that people on message boards make fun over his death...a shining example of humanity.

Rest in peace, Kudjo105.

[ICantSpellDawg]

sorry to say, but i have contempt for suicides and feel as though the world is better without them dragging us all down. an internet forum is where i can appropriatly air these feelings. i have respect for those who can pull themselves out of it with little drama and no pity for those who cannot. the first thing that comes to mind when someone say that someone has killed themselves is "good". my opinion of murder and painful death is different. too many in western society deal with depression for it to be viewed as exceptionally heart-wrenching or worthy of any real compassion. those who "suffer emotionally" need a dose of reality to come out of it, not pampering. those who have died as a result of their failures must be viewed as wretches and little more. people must move on

[AntiochusIII]

sorry to say, but i have contempt for suicides and feel as though the world is better without them dragging us all down. an internet forum is where i can appropriatly air these feelings. i have respect for those who can pull themselves out of it with little drama and no pity for those who cannot. the first thing that comes to mind when someone say that someone has killed themselves is "good". my opinion of murder and painful death is different. too many in western society deal with depression for it to be viewed as exceptionally heart-wrenching or worthy of any real compassion. those who "suffer emotionally" need a dose of reality to come out of it, not pampering. those who have died as a result of their failures must be viewed as wretches and little more. people must move onThat attitude is close to Social Darwinism, a theory I despise, no matter how "true" it might be.

How far have we gone since the days that humanity fought with obsidian weapons? What does society managed to achieve since then?

Obviously the jokes made about this aren't funny in the least. It is a very, very poor taste of humor.

[Ser Clegane]

A word of caution:

This discussion is now reaching some more difficult ground. I will allow a discussion regarding views on suicide in general, however, if this thread is taking the same direction as threads on this topic on other boards (i.e., making fun of the dead, slandering people who made the sad decision to kill themselves), it will be closed and further actions might be considered.

Thanks

Ser Clegane

[Sjakihata]

I think suicide, done as a result rational thought, is the most noble. Those that are cowards is the ones living undignified lives and squabble over small issues like money and property.

[Lentonius]

suicide, it doesnt matter if you are harsh enough to joke about it, is something very sad.

i understand that people can look at it as cowardice, but to be that traumatised and depressed to want to end your life... that is quite sad.

it is the only thing that in the news has made me very upset. cant quite work out why, but it is very sad....

lets just hope that he is safe in the afterlife and free...

[Byzantine Prince]

I think suicide, done as a result rational thought, is the most noble. Those that are cowards is the ones living undignified lives and squabble over small issues like money and property.
Would you like to be my Nietzsche monkey? ~:pat:


I don't really care for other people, so this doesn't bother me.

[Kralizec]

I think suicide, done as a result rational thought, is the most noble. Those that are cowards is the ones living undignified lives and squabble over small issues like money and property.

I disagree. Leading a depressed life is still better then the nothingness that comes after it. Life is what you make of it, and you only get one shot at it. I do think it's a weakness if people succumb to pessimism and kill themselves, and I feel sorry for them.

(to prevent someone from hijacking my statement, I'll say that I think euthanesia should be allowed though if you're terminally sick and are going to die in a few months, following terrible agony)

[Geoffrey S]

I've seen what suicide does to friends and families and I can't imagine how anyone could ever wish that on people close to them.

[Lentonius]

I disagree. Leading a depressed life is still better then the nothingness that comes after it. Life is what you make of it, and you only get one shot at it.

not if you believe in an afterlife

[Mithrandir]

To anyone who calls suicidal people cowards :

....

I hope you'll never suffer from depression, since then you'll have to face the choice too, and you may not like the outcome.

[Lanemerkel1]

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000075&topic=25527152&page=0

Dunno why this gets to me the way it does, very sad :no:


wow...just...wow :shame:

[Templar Knight]

After being through similar hell I can understand how he felt.

[Byzantine Prince]

To anyone who calls suicidal people cowards :

....

I hope you'll never suffer from depression, since then you'll have to face the choice too, and you may not like the outcome.
Seeing as suicide has nothing to do with braverz, I don[t see the fuss.

Suicidal is all about pszchological deterioration, or, more rarelz, philosophical inclination.

[Mithrandir]

Seeing as suicide has nothing to do with braverz, I don[t see the fuss.

Suicidal is all about pszchological deterioration, or, more rarelz, philosophical inclination.


Your point being?

It's got nothing to do with cowardice. Ofcourse it's taking the "easy way out". since suiciders generally don't want to die, but just want a better life. Getting them to aknowledge this and acting accordingly however is very hard.

Once you've hit psychological rock bottom there's no thought of improvement anymore.

And to repeat Ser Clegane's request, please be careful with what you post.For me and I'm sure for others with me this is a very delicate subject.


-Mithrandir.

[Ludens]

I think suicide, done as a result rational thought, is the most noble. Those that are cowards is the ones living undignified lives and squabble over small issues like money and property.
Personally, I think suicide is a selfish act, and therefor not exactly nobleTo flee the problems of life by not wanting to live could be called cowardism as well. But I know how hard it can be to drag yourself out of an emotional pit. The people who are in it require support, not mockery, as they are unable to help themselves. Denying that support and laughing at them is at best cruel and at worst a passive form of murder.

However, when confronted with public suicide I react rather uncaring as well. Not wanting to live is one thing, but forcing others to witness your death is quite another.

[King Henry V]

not if you believe in an afterlife
And if you do, then you're damned for eternity anyway (according to the main religions). Nothingness or damnation...not exactly wonderful not matter what you choose.

[Quietus]

Tragic. :embarassed:

[Devastatin Dave]

People end their lives for amny different reasons. A few months ago a co-worker and friend killed himself. He had pictures of his ex wife and pictures of his kids with him. He never talked about his problems and was always cheerful. In fact the day before he killed himself he and I were talking about fishing and our plans for the weekend. I can say stuff like what he did was selfish and others can call it cowardness, but I never walked a day in his shoes so I really have no right to judge what he did. All I know is a miss him and it makes me sad to see his empty desk.

Suicide is many time preventable and most people will show signs. I wish that Tom would have just said something to me or gave me any indication because I would have intervined with love and compassion and atleast gave him an ear to listen and then would have helped him find help. He didn't and now he's dead.

In our own community, I'm sure there are folks in this very board that have had these dark thoughts. If there are and you are reading this thread or even perhaps posting in it, please don't feel that its all hopeless and no one cares. This world may seem to be a cruel and loveless place, but there are perfect strangers here and elsewhere that feel your life is worth living. Sometimes it just takes a little courage to ask for help. We all need someone to listen to us sometimes. Suicide is to drastic a decision and fatally final for usually temperary problems.

If any of you do have these feelings of hopelessness, please, please PM me or someone else in here or talk to someone.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Think of the response something like that would get here.

R.I.P Mitch:shame:

[Rilder]

May his soul find rest in Elysium and the gods watch over him for eternity.


Those suffering from Depression and wanting to commit suicide are not cowards, i've suffered from depression and it still plagues my Life every now and then and lets just say i'd rather be on the front lines of a losing army in the medieval or aincent era, when i had it , it gave me a Rage, an anger that if someone tried to talk to me i nearly lost controll and wanted to kill you... i still have this rage... i will always have it i guess =/ my depression showed me that Christianity is a false religion and i converted to Hellenism and since then the gods looked fondly upon my soul and saved my life... Zeus is with me now and the gods are at my side.


Rest in piece, Sir, find peace in Elysium

[ICantSpellDawg]

May his soul find rest in Elysium and the gods watch over him for eternity.


Those suffering from Depression and wanting to commit suicide are not cowards, i've suffered from depression and it still plagues my Life every now and then and lets just say i'd rather be on the front lines of a losing army in the medieval or aincent era, when i had it , it gave me a Rage, an anger that if someone tried to talk to me i nearly lost controll and wanted to kill you... i still have this rage... i will always have it i guess =/ my depression showed me that Christianity is a false religion and i converted to Hellenism and since then the gods looked fondly upon my soul and saved my life... Zeus is with me now and the gods are at my side.


Rest in piece, Sir, find peace in Elysium



you converted to hellenism?!?!?!?!?!??!?! hahahahahah

i hope you are serious, that would be amazing

[Lentonius]

somehow i doubt that anyone nowadays has converted to this odd religion :inquisitive:

[Ser Clegane]

you converted to hellenism?!?!?!?!?!??!?! hahahahahah

i hope you are serious, that would be amazing

Please stay on topic :stare:

(apart from that, I do not quite see why Hellenism as a religion should be more subject for ridicule than other religions)

[Lentonius]

even though hellenism is a dead religion it still makes perfect sence, just with more exciting and varied deities:book:

[ICantSpellDawg]

you've gotta be kidding me. you warned me for poking fun of the religion practiced by jason and the argonauts. Nice to see that you arn't an absurd moderator. Next you'll tell me that the "Holy Terror Church of Final Judgement" doesnt deserve a little chuckle.

the "Hellenic practitioner" believes that a guy in a white beard throws thunderbolts from mount olympus. i'm not supposed to fina that amusing?

[Mithrandir]

How bout a guy who whips up an entire world in 6 days?
Or a deity with 6 arms?

This thread isn't about religion. Keep on topic please.

[Meneldil]

Well, my father-in-law and one of my friend comitted suicide, and I still don't know if I should respect them cause they had the gutts to end their somehow crappy life, or if I should blame them for their cowardice.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Never blame anyone for cowardice. It's their choices that they themselves make. They are not cowards, only lost.

[Reenk Roink]

You know what? It's about time someone worships the old gods!

:egypt:

:bow:

EDIT: On topic don't any of you go like that ... :sad:

[Sarethi]

Personally, I think suicide is a selfish act, and therefor not exactly nobleTo flee the problems of life by not wanting to live could be called cowardism as well. But I know how hard it can be to drag yourself out of an emotional pit. The people who are in it require support, not mockery, as they are unable to help themselves. Denying that support and laughing at them is at best cruel and at worst a passive form of murder.

However, when confronted with public suicide I react rather uncaring as well. Not wanting to live is one thing, but forcing others to witness your death is quite another.
Good post, I agree completely.

[Rilder]

you converted to hellenism?!?!?!?!?!??!?! hahahahahah

i hope you are serious, that would be amazing


I am serious, you may find it hard to believe in Zues but i find it hard to believe 1 god manages infinite worlds, planets and millions of races by himself. mods sorry for going off topic, just had to answer his question...

[Samurai Waki]

I'm thinking of converting to Norse Religion. I want to go to Valhalla!:2thumbsup:

[GoreBag]

Good luck dying in battle with a sword in hand.

[Divinus Arma]

I'm converting to Gah.


Back on what DD was sayin, don't any of you suckers go blowin your brains out. That would be BS.

If you are thinkin about it, please let somebody here know before you partake of the antifreeze. You may not believe it, but many orgahs have been through some serious pain and most here would drop most of their day to help you. This includes me.

At the very least... give one or two of us a shot. Look at this way: It ain't gonna do you any more harm then you already have planned! In other words, it can't hurt and it may help.

Man. What a bummer topic. :no:

I'm gonna go look at tits in the frontroom. That always cheers me up.:2thumbsup:

[AntiochusIII]

Good luck dying in battle with a sword in hand.I was thinking the Norse Gods would've adapted to time and allow all those who are faithful to die with an AK-47 in hand instead, or just get nuked.

Or may be they're waiting patiently for the Lightsaber Era of warfare! :2thumbsup:

Now, I'd not like to break news to you Rilder, O faithful follower of Great Zeus, Father of the Gods, but I think the Elysian fields are a Roman concept more than Greek.

You will have to spend your life in Hades' palace then; but that is not a bad choice according to the Apology. :idea2:

Back on what DD was sayin, don't any of you suckers go blowin your brains out. That would be BS.

If you are thinkin about it, please let somebody here know before you partake of the antifreeze. You may not believe it, but many orgahs have been through some serious pain and most here would drop most of their day to help you. This includes me. :bow:

[Loucipher]

It is indeed a very sad occurence. I shall join prayers with those who wish the poor guy a better afterlife...
For me, death is a serious thing, and certainly nothing to be laughed about or mocked. The fact that this young man had committed suicide because he couldn't carry on with his life should not entitle others to call him a coward.

Depression is a horrible affliction, and one able to take away a man's life. I speak from the experience, as I too have had suffered from it and went as far as having suicidal thoughts. The only difference between me and him was that I was given a helping hand, and subsequently my life evolved into something I have learned to treasure. He wasn't that lucky. And that, IMHO, is the biggest tragedy.
I know it is very hard to tell whether or not someone is going to commit a suicide. But standing aside and just letting him do it - this is the behaviour that should be criticized, not the suicide itself.

All we can do now, is to remain silent over the young man's death, save for a prayer for his soul.

Rest in peace, Mitchell... ~:( :sad3:

[GoreBag]

I was thinking the Norse Gods would've adapted to time and allow all those who are faithful to die with an AK-47 in hand instead, or just get nuked.

No exceptions!

[Blodrast]

well, DD and Divinus Arma, my hats off to you guys.:bow: