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RemusAvenged
01-20-2006, 06:12
Mine is of course is Themyscira.
They love to rebel once conquered too. Good times.
Love the Amazons, too bad Wonder Woman wasn't there though.
Whats yours?
Lilybaeum after being built to become a super large city in my TGE campaign.
Suddenly 20 slots appear with fully upgraded stuff. Won't go into details you can guess it all yourself. :skull:
Craterus
01-20-2006, 22:05
On Mundus Magnus, many of the rebel cities are heavily defended. But the armies have a trait that makes them immobile (unable to leave the city and go conquering everywhere).
One of the especially strong ones that comes to mind is Syracuse:
8 Hoplites (2 silver chevron, silver defence and weapon upgrades).
2 Cav (2 silver chevron, silver defence and weapon upgrades)
General (decent upgrades too).
It's quite difficult to take with your starting armies because of the upgraded troops.
toughest rebel city?
Im shamed to admit, but it was my capital, Capua, while playing with Scipii. i maneged to start rebelion in this city, becouse it had realy bad public order, and i prefer another 20000 denarii, thanks. but to my surprise, rebel units, was way out my current strenght in area(one general, some town watch and hastati, after Marius reform, so i couldnt retrein them).
anyway rebels had bloody war elephants and some regular elephants, with mix of arab cavalry and barbarian horde(i was thinking about melting pot when i saw those units). how in seven hell elephants came to Capua? even Haniball wasnt able to get them that far. not to mention camels, they are weak, but elephants?!!! it was hard to capture Capua again, but nasty surprise happened once aggain with Medolianum(what is wrong with this city?), with same 'egzotic" units. luckily enough romans infantry throws pilum, so i managed to slay elephants while besieging.
other than this i didnt meet any serious rebel armies(ok, this one wasnt serious, just had bloody elephants). only once happened that in memphis rebeling egyptians was well trained(+3for armour and weapons and more than +4xp), but they mostly were peasents and javelins, so i beat them easily.
Seasoned Alcoholic
01-22-2006, 13:57
Probably Themiskyra, Hyperboria. Home of the Amazons, and their Amazonian chariots.
Back in the old days of vanilla, I kept getting CTDs eveytime I faced the Amazonian chariots. Think this may have been the model, everytime you tried to close-up on the unit it just CTD. I know some players have never experienced this, it could just be a problem to people with low-end machines ~D
_Aetius_
01-22-2006, 15:12
In RTR probably the Indian provinces far in the east, i've never seen so many elephants, thousands of indian troops and hundreds of elephants, incredibly difficult to conquer.
Also in RTR as the Romans i'd just conquered Gaul and was planning to emulate Caeser by invading Britain, my army was pretty strung out after such a huge campaign against the Gauls, but I felt I could achieve some local success and maybe capture a settlement. So I started amassing what troops I could and got the fleet to the channel, I sent a spy over so I could storm a city easily, but the spy found thousands of Woad warriors with silver chevrons with a ton of chariots and slingers littering the island. :oops:
I reckon to invade, defeat the tribes, conquer and occupy Britain i'd of needed 2500 to 3500 troops atleast, all I had was 1 legion of 1400 men hastily gathered together, so suffice to say that campaign was aborted :laugh4:. It'd take alot of effort and preparation to conquer Britain and Ireland on RTR, I don't even know if it'd be worth conquering, but I know it'd take a hefty garrison in each city to hold them.
Zalmoxis
01-24-2006, 07:09
The toughest is the one that develops quickest, it varies from campaign to campaign.
My toughest in my current Medieval: Total War Campaign would have to be the Portugese. I just CAN'T keep them down! LOL
-ZainDustin
Seamus Fermanagh
01-24-2006, 15:46
Several annoying ones.
An Italian city rebelling post-marian has all the wild stuff in it.
A northern Barbarian city. (As in conquer it, watch it rebel and spontaneously generate an army at LEAST 50% tougher than the one you just beat).:help:
A formerly Pontic or Armenian city that rebels AFTER the faction is dead -- Let's just say I'd like to be able to generate 6 units of cataphracts that easily....:dizzy2:
Also, tough to keep from rebelling:
Carthage, Jerusalem.
Neither will tolerate anything but low taxes for long. Cathage especially. :skull: You can build every upgrade, grant them a tax holiday, station your faction leader there as governor and make it your capitol, garrison them with a full stack of pikemen and they STILL have a slight chance to rebel. Of course, I've also seen it garrisoned successfully by the Numidians with a faction heir and by the SPQR with nada -- but they'll boot out my conquering half-stack in a hot second and back come the hefalumps.
:furious3: :furious3: :furious3:
Byzantine Mercenary
01-24-2006, 16:28
exterminate populice and build peasant garisons
once i conqured every region on the map, loads of citys were very unhappy though, i would settle one revolt and then another one would happen somewhere else!:dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:
Leonin Khan
01-24-2006, 22:00
Several annoying ones.
An Italian city rebelling post-marian has all the wild stuff in it.
A northern Barbarian city. (As in conquer it, watch it rebel and spontaneously generate an army at LEAST 50% tougher than the one you just beat).:help:
A formerly Pontic or Armenian city that rebels AFTER the faction is dead -- Let's just say I'd like to be able to generate 6 units of cataphracts that easily....:dizzy2:
Also, tough to keep from rebelling:
Carthage, Jerusalem.
Neither will tolerate anything but low taxes for long. Cathage especially. :skull: You can build every upgrade, grant them a tax holiday, station your faction leader there as governor and make it your capitol, garrison them with a full stack of pikemen and they STILL have a slight chance to rebel. Of course, I've also seen it garrisoned successfully by the Numidians with a faction heir and by the SPQR with nada -- but they'll boot out my conquering half-stack in a hot second and back come the hefalumps.
:furious3: :furious3: :furious3:
Carthage Nova and many spanish towns are just as bad. and Germanic towns suck 2.
x-dANGEr
01-25-2006, 17:05
About Carthage, I stopped the pop growth at the limit of 40k and it's going well with a fair garrison, normal tax and daily games.
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