a great man has died this concern jews mostly

[Bar Kochba]

Baruch Dayan HaEmet...

HaRav Kaduri z"tl passed away this afternoon in Jerusalem's Bikur Cholim Hospital.

With the loss of another of our precious few G-D-fearing leaders, may his death serve as a Kaparah for our sins, and in his merit may HaShem see the near-hopelessness of our situation in this lost generation and bring the Mashiach that Rav Kaduri had longed for all his life...

http://www.effedieffe.com/tasti/img/kaduri.jpg

[KukriKhan]

Rest In Peace.

[Adrian II]

Un-Frontroomish language. Beirut

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Burn in Hell.

WTF?

[Bar Kochba]

please delete this thread i dont want a great man mocked

[Adrian II]

WTF?Honour the voice of extremism? Yes, I think moderators had better delete this thread.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I so not want to be a frontroom moderator right now...

[Bar Kochba]

please im the guy who made this post plz delete or stop people from posting on it its just gonna lead to race hate thread

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Honour the voice of extremism? Yes, I think moderators had better delete this thread.

He's dead...

I don't think you understand this. You can choose not to post if you hate him this much, but if you do hate him, don't post and especially crap like that.

I don't care how 'extreme' he was, he at least deserves a little respect in a game forum thread.

[LeftEyeNine]

Well, what is his importance being a kabbalist then ?

[Ianofsmeg16]

Burn in Hell.
Harsh mate, too harsh...:shame:

Respect the dead for all even if they did bad in their lives we live in hope that in another life they choose to bring joy insted of tears

[Beirut]

This thread is not being closed and the next person who throws a stone into the pond, no matter who he is, is getting axed.

If you want to make nasty comments about someone's demise, there are other forums available at the Org in which to do so.

Be nice or be elsewhere.

[Sjakihata]

Who was he and what did he represent?

[AntiochusIII]

Who's that which raise Adrian's ire?

Better do the google of the dead man. Hmm...

[Beirut]

We'd prefer if people here Google the info about religious and political leaders or ask in the Backroom.

Condolences only in the Frontroom please. Politics and religion are not allowed.

[Beirut]

Well, complaints have been received regarding this thread. One person asked how we would handle a thread of condolences for Osama bin Laden. Interesting.

Since somebody is likely to hate whoever is mentioned, that would disqualify every thread of condolences. That's not where we want to be.

If you don't like the person mentioned - don't post, let the thread disappear. If you find the thread offensive, PM BKS or myself. If you have concerns about Frontroom policy, the Watchtower is at your disposal.

For now the thread stays. Consider it... a test of manners.

[Proletariat]

Well, complaints have been received regarding this thread. One person asked how we would handle a thread of condolences for Osama bin Laden. Interesting.


If that is ever allowed, it will be the last time I ever visit this site.

[Ice]

If that is ever allowed, it will be the last time I ever visit this site.

I'd have to agree on that one.

[Papewaio]

Just seems to be an old Rabbi... not sure who he is connected with to garner such wrath.

[InsaneApache]

the Moshiach

The Messiah???

Can't find much myself about this man. Googled until my eyes hurt. I did find this if it helps anyone.

http://www.yiddishkeit.org/Default_YK.asp?ItemCode=835

[Beirut]

Originally Posted by Beirut
Well, complaints have been received regarding this thread. One person asked how we would handle a thread of condolences for Osama bin Laden. Interesting.


If that is ever allowed, it will be the last time I ever visit this site.


I'd have to agree on that one.

Let us cool our overheating engines of indignation before they explode shall we? The mods haven't bought shares in Al-Queda Inc. just yet so please save the boycotts for a later date.

Considering I have been the most vocal proponent of Palestinian rights at the Org. for years, and I can live with this fellow's obit in the Frontroom, I thought others could deal with it as well, but complaints have been coming in from all angles. Oh well...

Off to the Backroom. Enjoy yourselves.

[doc_bean]

I thought Judaism didn't have a hell :inquisitive:

[InsaneApache]

I thought Judaism didn't have a hell :inquisitive:

You're kidding right?

Anyway a dicky bird informs me this guy is an advocate of terrorism. I still can't get any real info on him. Has anyone?

[Tribesman]

Anyway a dicky bird informs me this guy is an advocate of terrorism.
It isn't terrorism , its Gods work :dizzy2:
So deathtoallhumans , do you consider the bombings of the tube network in the city where you live as wonderful events ?
If yes then why are you still there ? I thought that as a follower of this "great man" you would have packed your bag for the holy land after gods message on 9/11 .:no:

[Husar]

Wait, this man is a jew and the bombings in London and 9/11 were done by "muslim" terrorists, so where´s the connection between them, Tribesman?
I mean, why should a jew see muslim bombings as a wonderful event?

[Louis VI the Fat]

The 'dead of Osama Bin Laden' analogy is a good one. Which post would be in bad taste then: 'rest in peace' or 'burn in hell'?

That would require a political verdict on the part of the moderators. Albeit, in this case, not a very hard one. Nonetheless, it forces them to choose sides in a political and religious conflict. The same applies here, hence I did not want to be in their shoes.

If you want to google our kabbalistic sage to make up your own mind about him, try Yitzchak Kaduri or Kedouri. His name can be spelled in various different forms in latin alphabet.

Anyway, my prayers go out to Madonna. :no:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'd have to agree on that one.
I wouldn't. Sure, his orders have killed many...but so have Bush's.

Now, if you excuse me, I hear the NSA knocking on my door.

[Adrian II]

My remarks at the top of the thread have caused some major headaches for which I apologise. I should explain that the original post in the Frontroom was cause for a headache all by itself.

The rabbi should not be compared to Osama bin Laden, but Proletariat’s remark comes very close to the truth. Kaduri could be compared to the man who inspired Osama during his religious studies at King Abdul Aziz University, sheikh Abdallah Azzam. Azzam’s taped lectures caught the angry mood and messianic zeal of disaffected young muslims. If you are looking for the spiritual and theological roots of Osama’s extremism, look no further than Azzam.

Kaduri, as Oriental Jewry’s most ‘respected’ Kabbalist, was the exact same thing to disaffected young Oriental Jews. He was, among other things, the religious backbone of the Shas Party as well as the leading light of Kabbalists who promulgated Greater Israel, despised Arabs and ‘cursed’ Israeli leaders who refused to give in to their own exalted visions. Kaduri’s last known action was to protest Sharon’s Gaza evacuation with the words ‘Wherever a Jewish voice is heard, that is where the Jewish homeland is’.

The original poster has a motto underneath his avatar that says ‘Kahane chai!’ (‘Kahane lives!’). That is the slogan of the Kach Party, founded by the late Meir Kahane, a party that is outlawed in Israel as a terrorist and racist organisation. Allowing this post to ‘stand’ would be akin to accepting a post in the Frontroom that laments the ‘great Abdallah Azzam’s death’ under the motto ‘Mohamed Atta lives!’.

Hence my own headache. Shoot me at first light if you need to, but my remarks were inspired by a genuine shock that the Frontroom would be abused for such propaganda. Louis is right that the moderators sometimes face the impossible task of avoiding political judgment in the interest of .org peace. I am not a moderator. And I don't want to be a moderator's pest either because the ladies and gentlemen have a hard enough job as it is. So I will desist and shut up now.

[doc_bean]

You're kidding right?


You mean Seventh Heaven lied ? :dizzy2:

[lars573]

Jews believe that heaven and hell exist. Just not that you go to either when you die. That's a Romano-Christian idea. They don't believe in an after life. They believe that when you die your wormfood.

[Soulforged]

Harsh mate, too harsh...:shame:

Respect the dead for all even if they did bad in their lives we live in hope that in another life they choose to bring joy insted of tearsFunny when a "criminal" dies everyone mocks him and wishes him hell, when an extremist dies is all about respect.:inquisitive:

EDIT to add: Of course both are wrong in my opinion, but this contradictory cases a confusing me.

[Reenk Roink]

It's all perspective...this entire thread...

[Tribesman]

Wait, this man is a jew and the bombings in London and 9/11 were done by "muslim" terrorists, so where´s the connection between them, Tribesman?
I mean, why should a jew see muslim bombings as a wonderful event?


Hey , who said extremist nuts have to make sense . He made the connection not me .
He also calls Earl Kruger a great martyr , but thats OK as at least he was a terrorist who claimed the same religeon .
OK fair enough his early life was absolute shite (and honestly it doesn't come much worse ) , but an extremist nut is an extremist nut no matter what religeon they claim to represent .

[Ser Clegane]

So what is this thread?

Is it a condolence threat for somebody who condones terrorism?
Or is it a "normal" condolence thread that has been used by some to slander the dead person?

I will still need some time to decide which of the two options fits this thread - but one thing is clear - neither of the two is the kind of thread I would consider to be acceptable on this board.

Thread closed

Anybody who would like to discuss the life of Kaduri and his potential links to political or non-political organisations is welcome to start a new thread - but keep it flame-free.