what do you actually play?

[Marcus Caelius]

I wonder what people actually spend their time playing most of the time. I have the mod switcher on 1.2 install and a vanilla BI install, but i still spend almost all my TW time on RTR 6.3, and hardly ever play RTW/BI. I was just sort of interested in the relative popularity of different versions

[Monarch]

To keep myself interested, I switch it around. I'll play a RTW campaign, then I went to BI, then to RTR. Now I'm mainly on Multiplayer.

[Tricky Lady]

Mainly Mundus Magnus for me. But as this only exists for RTW1.2 I might re-arrange my mod installs and go for an update to 1.5 (or 1.6 :dizzy2:).
But I just love the huge map (= good for a slow gamer like me, as this will allow the AI to expand a lot too, so towards the end of a campaign I always have to fight strong enemies)

[Monarch]

A link to this Mundus Magnus please, sounds interesting :)

[Pomerium]

I wonder what people actually spend their time playing most of the time. I have the mod switcher on 1.2 install and a vanilla BI install, but i still spend almost all my TW time on RTR 6.3, and hardly ever play RTW/BI. I was just sort of interested in the relative popularity of different versions

I mostly play RTW SPQR. Will eventually get around to RTR 6.3

[Martok]

I play MTW/VI with VikingHorde's XL mod installed. Guaranteed to keep me entertained for quite a while--at least til Medieval 2 comes out, probably even longer. ~:)

[cannon_fodder]

Nowadays, RTW vanilla. Used to play STW, mostly vanilla.

[Mouzafphaerre]

.
Both vanillas + bug fixer + professorspatula's hordes mod + slight personal touches
.

[Tricky Lady]

A link to this Mundus Magnus please, sounds interesting :)

Sure :smiley:
You'll notice that this is an old link. This mod is no longer "supported", and is for RTW 1.2 if I remember correctly.
Download Mundus Magnus (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=817526&postcount=1)

click here to see the entire thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=49517)

There were some issues with the stats of the Nubian spearmen's secondary weapon, so you might want to read the posts on page 3 in order to solve this problem. Or if it's too much of a hassle PM me and I'll send my txt file so you can replace yours.

[Samurai Waki]

EB at the moment.... I've actually been playing more Morrowind, trying to finish.

[PseRamesses]

Warring through the civs of EB at the moment. Vanilla RTW was quickly replaced by the earlier RTR versions until BI which I grew tired of within 2 weeks. Went back to RTR 6.2 and re-installed withEB when it came out. I´m gonna stick with this one for a while now.
At the momwent I´m not playing RTW but building houses and lots, creating skins etc for my 12 yo daughters Sims-game, great fun! But being a hard-core TW-fan I know I´ll eventually will be sucked into its magic again ;)

[Ciaran]

Switching between RTW 1.2 and MTW XL.

[Taurus]

RTW 1.5 and Barbarian Invasion 1.6, mostly multiplayer.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

In an EB campaign with rome at the moment but suffering an intense war with the Makedonians and Getians. Very depressing at present due to my playing skills on the battlefield being a little rusty

[Subedei]

RTR 6.3. (well i guess it`s 6.3., the latest one hopefully) & i love it...maybe i`ll try my luck with Bactria H7H this time......really looking forward to Blue Lotus & Chivalry if they come out!

[econ21]

RTR right now, but just done some BI PBMs and gave EB a long bash. So, really all three.

I like BI, but somehow it seems to lose lustre after the early game - I guess, it is just a relatively short campaign.

EB was mind-alteringly good, but unfortunately crashed to the desktop so often I had to give up.

I've gone back to RTR but found it a bit of a shock after BI and EB. My cavalry die like flies (even charging skirmishers in the back) and I just had a 3/4 stack army of Romans massacred by AI Gauls, of all things. The indignity. I evidently need to brush up my skills.

[professorspatula]

I tend to play my own version of RTW and BI, modified vanilla version basically.


EB at the moment.... I've actually been playing more Morrowind, trying to finish.

I have been playing a bit of Morrowind too recently, but I've decided life is too short to spend hours in a game just walking or running at a snail's pace just to deliver yet another loaf of bread or equally worthless trinket to some mindless 'AI' cardboard cut-out character again and again, stopping only briefly to point and click a few times and kill the 7000th overgrown and annoying bird that has got in my way. I'm going to burn my copy or sell it to some child on ebay who has yet to discover games like Pac-Man have about 500 times more enjoyable gameplay.

[Just A Girl]

Cant get interested in RTW let alone Stay interested,
I tried the RTR patch Just made the game slow.

as for total war games i play...
I play MTW VI for single player.
And STW WE for multi player.

[Just A Girl]

Morrowind Is HUGE, And moddable,
With the blood moon add on It becomes Even better,

It is Huge and would take you a life time to play And you probably never will finish it.
Its a Real RPG, And as such younger people would not wish to play it.
Not a childish fun game of mario.
Or simplistic skills of pack man.

The quests you speak of are purley side missions,
There is Much to do. in morrowind,
And i dont know of ANY 1 who has been able to do them all,
The game will never end,
and as such those of low attention span should not buy it.

Avarage morrowind game life =:" 1 life time "
Its the only RPG that will actualy mean you need to Give up on real life forever to finish it.

[Gen_Lee]

Played Mtw (Mainly Ntw, Atw and 1st Bkb version) until last month.
Now playing seriously Rtr v6.3 with Draknar mod pack v5.06 and Atilla's Invasio Barbarurum - Flagellum Dei v 4.0 (Since Yesterday already avaiable the v4.1 or gold edition).
Both mods manage to make enjoy a lot Rtw.
Also got last version of Bkb and Pike&musket v1.0 for Mtw, really 2 answome Tc's.
Besides those, used to play modded morrowind (Not the vanilla game, luckly I found it after Rhedd's face packs release) for last 3 years.
Was really hooked to that one, the only game that manage to disctract Me from it was Mtw and fthe one that finally make Me forget it is Rtr.

[Gen_Lee]

Morrowind Is HUGE, And moddable,
With the blood moon add on It becomes Even better,

It is Huge and would take you a life time to play And you probably never will finish it.
Its a Real RPG, And as such younger people would not wish to play it.
Not a childish fun game of mario.
Or simplistic skills of pack man.

The quests you speak of are purley side missions,
There is Much to do. in morrowind,
And i dont know of ANY 1 who has been able to do them all,
The game will never end,
and as such those of low attention span should not buy it.

Avarage morrowind game life =:" 1 life time "
Its the only RPG that will actualy mean you need to Give up on real life forever to finish it.

You never finish Morrowind, You can finish the main quests, the side ones but there are an amzing nr of mod quests that make it impossible to finish (In fact I played it for 3 years and only once I did the bloodmoon addon one, I spent all time modding or playing mods).
Nowadays, even with the modding community waiting for Oblivion, there are still great mods being released on a daily basis.
Trully the only pbl on Morrowind is to know wich mods should be downloaded.
With more then 10000 avaiable, it's indeed a hard choice.
So:
http://www.mwmythicmods.com/
This is the bible of modded morrowind.

[Monarch]

Cant get interested in RTW let alone Stay interested,
I tried the RTR patch Just made the game slow.

as for total war games i play...
I play MTW VI for single player.
And STW WE for multi player.

Is there much of a MP community still for shoggy?

[Just A Girl]

I spent a year Making a disk world mod for morrowind.
I managed to finish ankmor pork,
Working from maps i had in Books i own,
And then i gave up.
I imagine it would have taken me 6-10 years to compleat the mod. Along with all the charicters from the book.
and giving them similar traits as the ones in the books.

i actualy managed to make a few of the wizards And the main city.
I think i have it on this pc some where.
maby il look at it again some time.

[professorspatula]

Avarage morrowind game life =:" 1 life time "
Its the only RPG that will actualy mean you need to Give up on real life forever to finish it.

Yes but, 1 x Real Life Life time = 100,000 x 1 Lifetime spent playing Morrowind.

It's a bit like one of those massively multiplayer online RPGs, except without any socialising and the 14 year old boys thinking they're the greatest thing ever because they spend 100 hours a week playing the stupid game and hence have the Super-Shiny-Steel Chinguards that only the socially inept level 3234 players get, and that makes them better than people who actually have some kind of life outside their PC. But I shouldn't get preachy and this going off topic. I actually have both add-ons and did get quite into the game once, but the shallow and repetitive gameplay gradually ebbed away at my conscience until I had to stop playing it or throw myself into a canal.

Now MTW is a game with a hell of a lot going for it in terms of longevity. I must get back to that someday soon.

[Just A Girl]

Is there much of a MP community still for shoggy?


Its not Huge,
but must be in double figuers by now.
Unfortunatly we dont all get online at the same time.

When i ran my 1st tourny We had 8 contestants,
Since then more have joined the shogun comunity,
Others who would return to the shogun community have some problems,
Hopefully when we figure out how to fix those, The comunity will be exponentialy increased,

But we do manage to play quite often Mostly on week ends.
usualy 1 v 1 1 v 2 or 2v2
I have seen 3 v 3 and 4 v 4 played as well.
And ive seen more than 1
1v1 room up at 1ce,

There are alos STW players who Can play,
Some times apear in the foyer,
But then dont play. I have not been counting them as active mebers so there not in my aproximation of how many people play.

our little comunity is quite small,
But freindly and helpfull,
Also it seems to be growing almost by the day,
thanx to people directing others to my server.

I owe YoJimbo A thanx for Directing the newest member of our comunity to the server.

So thanx.

hope that answers your question.

[Dutch_guy]

playing MTW VI now, plain vanilla though I'm going to give one of the major mods a try soon.

And I occaisionly play BI and EB...

:balloon2:

[Viking]

BI 1.6

I`ll give AOVAF and EB a chance once they`re finished.

[dagiz]

somehow I got to playing three games at ones...

Rtw with 1.5 patch, planescape:torment, and for no real reason started palying NWN again, or at least one of the mods...I just can't seem to sit down and finish one of them. :wall:

[Panzermeyer]

I play MTW/VI with VikingHorde's XL mod installed. Guaranteed to keep me entertained for quite a while--at least til Medieval 2 comes out, probably even longer. ~:)

Where can I get the Xl mod for Medieval??
And what is this Mod Manager that I saw someone post about.
I am very interested.

[Monarch]

Where can I get the Xl mod for Medieval??
And what is this Mod Manager that I saw someone post about.
I am very interested.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=31201

I think it's one of the most popular MTW mods around, you'd do well to do give it a try.

I am now firmly fixed on my turn in a Seleucid (RTW, 1.5) PBeM. Very fun, my first try on the hard campaign difficulty (I usually play m/m), One town, Hatra, is getting sieged by the Armenians every turn lol, I almost have a full stack defending it.

[BHCWarman88]

I dislike Mods very much. wel,, I am more of a MP Person though,and not many Mutiplayer peeps got Mods,handful do,but not many..

[Craterus]

I'm playing Mundus Magnus too.

[Monarch]

I dislike Mods very much. wel,, I am more of a MP Person though,and not many Mutiplayer peeps got Mods,handful do,but not many..

Check out Chivalry total war, not tried it myself but supposedly it's primarily for mp.

[BHCWarman88]

Ploblem is, like I thought I mention in my last post is, Not Everyone on MP plays Mods,and if they do, I might on Chivarly Total War,and they may be on RTR. I'll just stick to the main games..

[ajaxfetish]

It's good to see M:TW still going strong. I too am playing M:TW/VI/XL. Looking forward to both Oblivion & MTW2, but to a new computer before either of them.

Ajax

[BHCWarman88]

what are the Computer Reuirments for Oblivion?? I love to buy that,and MTW 2 aslo..

[Garvanko]

Run concurrent RTW and BI campaigns - currently playing Carthage and the ERE. Just finished playin the Britons (RTW) and the Saxons (BI).

[General4Hire]

It's good to see M:TW still going strong. I too am playing M:TW/VI/XL. Looking forward to both Oblivion & MTW2, but to a new computer before either of them.

Ajax

I'll second that. I'm actually quite pleased with the news of MTW2 being almost a year away...gives me time to get the kind of computer worthy of playing that game :)

I figure a good 1500-2500 should get me what I'm looking for which shouldn't be any major problem for me by the summer. I can only imagine what full 10,000 men battles will look like on MTW2 with a high end gaming pc. /drool:laugh4:

[Romulas]

I tend to run concurrent RTW and BI campaigns as well. Currently Seleucid and Alemanni. I mostly use factions that have onagers. A "little" artillery for my almost all infantry based armies. The only exception has been the Saxons (BI).

[BelgradeWar]

RTR 6.2 and waiting to finish my current campaign to upgrade to 6.3

[Rheged]

I play Barbarian Invasion mostly, though i do enjoy going back to RTW for some Egyptian action.

[Powermonger]

I play MTW:VI vanilla, I'll have to give the XL mod a try after I finish my current campaign.

[Samurai Waki]

Playing Lots and Lots of EB.

[Martok]

I play MTW:VI vanilla, I'll have to give the XL mod a try after I finish my current campaign.


Good man; XL is an excellent mod. You won't believe the hours you'll waste playing it! :2thumbsup:

[HarunTaiwan]

Is EB actually finished yet?

I'd love to play it!

[Malrubius]

Playtesting EB, what else? ~;p

[Asmodai]

Yep, XL mod is very interesting. It makes the game harder.

I actually play M:TW/VI/XL...i barely sleeping right now.

Coffe is my savior...

[Powermonger]

Good man; XL is an excellent mod. You won't believe the hours you'll waste playing it! :2thumbsup:

What's the difference between MedMod and XL? I've never played any mods with MTW but I remember MedMod use to be the rave a couple of years ago.

[Wishazu]

RTW vanilla for multiplay :)

[Martok]

What's the difference between MedMod and XL? I've never played any mods with MTW but I remember MedMod use to be the rave a couple of years ago.


Well not having gotten around to trying MedMod, I'm not terribly qualified to compare the two in terms of how they're different, but I'll tell you what little I know:

First off, by pretty much all accounts MedMod makes the game much tougher than before. I don't know, however, if this is because the AI has been somehow tweaked, or if it's due to some other factor. I also want to say that MedMod's trade income isn't as overpowered as it is in vanilla MTW, but don't quote me on that.

The other major MedMod feature I'm aware of is the concept of Homelands. Basically, you cannot train your "specialty" units outside of them. In other words, the Danes can only train Vikings in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and maybe a few of the other northern provinces of Europe; the Spanish can't train Javelinmen and Jinnettes outside of Iberia, etc. I believe Wes' intentions in introducing Homelands is to reduce the "cheese factor" (i.e., the Byzantines can't "magically" recruit Varangian Guards in Scotland just because they now own that province ~:rolleyes: ).

Unfortunately, that's pretty much the extent of my knowledge of MedMod. I don't know what else it adds as far as new factions or units. I know that Wes did extensive tweaking of virtually all the units' stats in the interests of rebalancing the game, but I don't know what other changes he made. It's highly-regarded by most people who've played it, though, so it's certainly worth checking out.


Now with XL Mod, I'm a bit more knowledgable. ~:) Here's what I consider to be the major features:

1.) Peasants have been removed from the game, and everyone (both you and the AI factions) now have immediate access to some of your mid-level troops (fuedal seargents, mounted seargents, etc.)

2.) Battles are somewhat improved, as the AI is now better at assembling armies. You don't see as many 3000-man Hordes consisting of virtually nothing except peasants, urban militia, and archers. Now you're more likely to see the AI field armies of smaller size but better quality. A more typical army in XL is 700-1500 men consisting of FMAA, FS, MS, RK, archers, maybe some vanilla spearmen, and a few of that faction's specific units (assuming they can train them in the era you're playing).

3.) VikingHorde created the XL mod with the idea that Land=Money. As a result, farm income has been increased while trade income has been reduced (although it's still worthwhile to establish a trade network with your ships). This also makes it a little easier for factions that are mostly-landlocked (HRE, Bohemia, Kievans, Novgorod, etc.) to keep up financially.

4.) The campaign AI is generally better, both in terms of developing its lands and deciding when to go to war with someone. A big part of this is because VikingHorde changed the AI scripts for a lot of the factions. The upshot of this is that factions will usually build up their lands more and gather more powerful armies before attacking anyone. Additionally, factions also tend to be better at bouncing back from defeats (just ask me or anyone else who's played as the Spanish and tried to take out the Almohads/Almorovids; it's a lot harder than it used to be!). ~D

5.) Finally, XL adds a ton of new factions and units, and "unlocks" a few others (the Papacy and the Golden Horde are now playable, and Novgorod is now playable in the Early period). New factions include: the Scots, Portuguese, Bohemians, Cumans, Kievans, Norwegians, Swedes, Crusader Sates, Teutonic Order, Burgundians, Bulgarians, Serbians, and the Lithiuanians. (I've probably forgotten a couple, but you get the idea!)

[jadast]

I quickly gave up on RTW (perhaps to soon) and play MTW VI with XL mod. Found this mod makes game play very enjoyable.

[Kierkegaard]

vanilla rtw1.2
i tried some mods, including rtr, spqr, darthmod,eb, vlad,and etc, but i like vanilla rtw most.:juggle2: :juggle2:

[spanakoryzo]

I'm currently running a Lithuanian campaign on MTW/VI/XL mod (I command a pagan faction:jumping: ) and an ERE campaign on RTW/BI. I do like the MTW series better though. Also, I probably have too much spare time on my hands!

[John XVI]

Vanilla MTW(and STW too). I have Viking Invasion too,but I won't install it until I get completely bored with original MTW.

[General4Hire]

I actually just installed RTR 6.0 Gold (newest) the other night and am just about to start up a campaign using it.

However, I switch around...sometimes vanilla 1.5, sometimes BI 1.6, and sometimes RTR.

I play all 3...however, and you can go to the bank on this, once RTR 7.0 using BI 1.6 comes out (not that much longer I hear...couple months) that's probably all I will play...that's the combination of all three, and right up my alley :2thumbsup:

[Ludens]

Is EB actually finished yet?

I'd love to play it!
No, it is not finished yet but an open beta is available to give you a first taste, and quite a good taste it is, although there is still a lot of work to be done. Also, the EB team is working on a patch to sort out many of these issues.

[Archungel]

i play MTW the most and i play as the Russians. i modded them to get cossacks(steppe calvary with some slightly slightly better stats) so that they could have some horses that were cheap but effective like hobliers and be able to build them in any country.

[Just A Girl]

This Week I Ave Been mostly playing....

Silent hunter 2

[General4Hire]

wtf

[Puzz3D]

DUXmod for MTW/VI multiplayer.

[TosaInu]

MTW/VI Dux MP, and a modded 12 tpy RTW 1.5 SP campaign with Julii on hard.

[Ultras DVSC]

We finished Greece and Alexander and started to learn about Rome on the history lessons. Therefore like a diligent schoolboy I've determined to be the most intelligent in these occasions, but because unfortunalety swotting doesn't belong to my favorites, I've installed RTW again. This fact won't be enough of course, but it will help a lot and at least I'll enjoy the history preparations... :idea2: And on monday, I'm gonna make a great presentation about the structure and main events of the ancient roman army. :)

[Ultras DVSC]

I mean about the Roman army in the Ancient Times. ;)

[BigTex]

I've been playing EB. Wonderful mod its what RTW should have been. I've played RTW since the day it was released and this mod has made RTW a real strategy game. Though i also play America's Army for those times you just feel like blasting away at someone.

Cant wait for MTW2/Oblivion to come out, but I'll need a new computer, and possibly a prepaid carpal tunnel medical bill before I get them.

[General4Hire]

MTW/VI Dux MP, and a modded 12 tpy RTW 1.5 SP campaign with Julii on hard.

How's your Julii campaign going? I have a Julii Campaign on hard also, has been an absolutely AMAZING campaign. I switched around in my head so many times about who my 1.5 campaign was going to be with but I never thought that a Julii campaign was this cool.

It's 244bc in my game (and seems like i've been playing it forever) and I don't think I've had one peaceful turn yet.

[TosaInu]

I'm at 264 BC or so. The 1.5 patch makes the campaign more of a challenge than 1.2. Failed to talk anyone into a protectorate yet, more naval battles, especially huge pirates (but no port blockades ~:(, though I've seen Egypt and Macedonia blocking Brutii ports for many turns in a row). I'm at war with Gauls, Carthago and Dacia (though when I was doing some deep raids, Dacia was suddenly neutral ~:confused:) and I just accepted a cease fire with Greece (they asked and I demanded tribute). My cities are regularly under siege, some revolt, but the AI falls short in battles. I'm going to torture myself with a general camera. Previously you had only to withdraw once on campaign maps to avoid war, that's no longer the case, enemies hunt my armies down. Not sure whether the patch made the AI movement smarter or the difficulty setting.

The Julii are the toughest Roman faction afaik: Gauls and Dacia at the border. Brutii and Scipii have secured homelands. The 12tpy is nice, very nice indeed. But senate missions become much less an issue. A good thing, but it also removes some pressure (it seems to count passed winterturns only to decrease senate time).

I'm having a 10 star general, and traits are flowing in. Neither Dacia nor Gaul is beaten, though pretty dented. I'm worried about what is beyond those, now things develop. It can become a sour apple to bite. Capturing Rome was the most difficult thing to do previously, I may declare war early on and make it a true nightmare.

[Puzz3D]

I have a normal difficulty, RTW v1.5 Julii campaign that I haven't looked at in months now, but the AI does consolidate it's armies and puts generals into those armies. Spears work better and this helps the AI since it's pretty good about making advantageous matchups. I lost a couple of battles to Gaul as a result which never happened in v1.2. Just the same, I crippled Gaul fatally by fortifying a bridge which they attacked incessantly despite massive losses to themselves.

One thing that wasn't so good was that Carthage had a 26 unit army on a ship (don't know how they got 26 units on one ship) and it just kept sailing around until a pirate ship sank it eventhough those troops were needed to defend it's cities. Carthage was fattly crippled after that since that ship had over half its army strength, and it has no way to replace it having lost too many cities. Numidia holds North Africa although Scipii has a presence there as well. Egypt makes no attempt to expand into North Africa. Dacia and Selucid are eliminated with Armenia and Parthia soon to follow. Scythia and Thrace are dormant.

I play with fog of war off, and it's still Egypt dominating in Asia Minor Brutii knocking off Greece and Macedonia and Britannia dominating in Northern Europe. However, I find it more difficult to expand so these dominant AI factions could be quite difficult to beat once I make contact. I don't use any diplomacy, and just play conquest with armies. It's not so easy to dominate the sea, and you seem to have to make a choice between that and land armies.

[TosaInu]

Massila bridge? ^_^

I'm building chains of fortresses to safely jump my general from one spot to the other and guard mountainpassages.

[Peasant Phill]

I play MTW VI.
For the moment I'm kind of mod hopping. I've tried BKB supermod and I'm currently on a XL cmpaign. After that I'll probably trie NTW or ME:TW or if it's finished Pikes an muskets

[Avicenna]

RTW campaigns (ALWAYS civilised factions :P)

[Craterus]

RTW campaigns (ALWAYS civilised factions :P)

Why only civilised factions? The barbs are a lot of fun too.

I don't play any of the TW games anymore. I'm having some fun on FIFA 2003 on the PS2.

I really need a new game though.

:idea2:

Maybe I should install Civ4?

[Ultras DVSC]

I'm having some fun on FIFA 2003 on the PS2.

Are you maybe in a nostalgic mood? Or do you simply torment yourself? ~:)

Back to TWs! ~;)

[Craterus]

I'm actually really bored of RTW (it's the only one I've got). I don't think I could play MTW or STW because I'm used to the graphics of Rome.

[tibilicus]

only really BI mulit player at the momnet.
Will probs play EB when its released mind.

[BelgradeWar]

I'm actually really bored of RTW (it's the only one I've got). I don't think I could play MTW or STW because I'm used to the graphics of Rome.


Well, you'll never know until you try. And you could switch to Pro Evolution Soccer 5, it's lightyears ahead of FIFA.

[Craterus]

Well, you'll never know until you try. And you could switch to Pro Evolution Soccer 5, it's lightyears ahead of FIFA.

GAH! Just noticed, but people are using my sig image as avatars now.

:gah2:

[BelgradeWar]

I'll take GAH as a sign of disapprovement:inquisitive:

[Craterus]

~;) :yes:

[TosaInu]

The Gauls are blocking my port now, for some turns. Nasty big fleet too.

[Avicenna]

Why only civilised factions? The barbs are a lot of fun too.

I don't play any of the TW games anymore. I'm having some fun on FIFA 2003 on the PS2.

I really need a new game though.

:idea2:

Maybe I should install Civ4?

lack of decent buildings and troops after the early stages makes the game boring. barb music also sounds worse imho

[Drock]

I've been playing Medieval XL and NTW recently specifically Venice/Piedmont.

I usually alternate between those campaigns and a VH/VH Pontus campaign. Usually when I get frustrated with one I play the other and vice versa.