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A very funny take on the President's State of the Union discussion of cloning and embryonic resedarch. (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/02/president_panders_to_antimanim.php) As the article states, Dr. Moreau will leave the country in rage.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2006/02/pig-man.jpg
He's trusting that everyone will think he is banning monstrous crimes against natureNo, it was pretty much what I thought it was- splicing human genes into animals for testing purposes.
So what scientists have been doing is inserting human genes into mice, to produce similar genetic overdoses in their development. As I reported before, there have been partial insertions, but now a team of researchers has inserted a complete human chromosome 21 into mouse embryonic stem cells
Well, that does it, Xihaou. No more Beastmaster for you! And I stronly suggest you rid yourself of any Animal Man comics you may have laying about.
Crazed Rabbit
02-02-2006, 06:26
Good. I've always despised those freaks.
Crazed Rabbit
:laugh4:
Major Robert Dump
02-02-2006, 06:43
I would totally support human/animal splicing if it meant I could get a bigger penis or super-speed or something
Zalmoxis
02-02-2006, 07:14
What? Don't you know that all you have to do is reply to the e-mail in your inbox and your bigger penis is only minutes away?
All I have to say is ...
http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/mansquito.jpg
They made mice with nearly entirely human nerve cell brains and it made no difference.
They probably sampled from some British sink estate or something.
RabidGibbon
02-02-2006, 15:55
Does this ban mean the USA won't be able to benefit from the latest triumph of Taiwanese Science?
https://usera.imagecave.com/RabidGibbon/Glowinthedarkpigs.jpg
GLOW IN THE DARK PIGS!!!
:dizzy2:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4605202.stm
I do wonder which human disease there talking about when they say it will help cure diseases, but I suppose I have to bow to the superior wisdom of those who had the vision to create something so unique
Ironside
02-02-2006, 16:14
Does this ban mean the USA won't be able to benefit from the latest triumph of Taiwanese Science?
https://usera.imagecave.com/RabidGibbon/Glowinthedarkpigs.jpg
GLOW IN THE DARK PIGS!!!
:dizzy2:
It's used to easily see that the inserted genes is active.
Preliminary human research with maintained theme could be intersting though. :laugh4: :sweatdrop:
Devastatin Dave
02-02-2006, 17:36
I want a green glowing penis... oops, I just need it to be glowing.:laugh4:
rory_20_uk
02-02-2006, 21:24
My biggest fear is that if countries refuse to develop such things they'll not even know who to deal with the threats of others creating them. (Sort of like the UK and USA don't of course manufacture biological or chemical weapons - our labs only work hard to disarm them... of course they have to make them first...)
Although definitely Sci-Fi, facing a foe that can either give its soldiers a compound that removes fear or develops soldiers that become complete psychos when a certain dietry additive is removed is I would imagine one possible endpoint. Designer plagues aimed at certain ethnic groups is of course another.
~:smoking:
Vladimir
02-02-2006, 21:33
Although definitely Sci-Fi, facing a foe that can either give its soldiers a compound that removes fear or develops soldiers that become complete psychos when a certain dietry additive is removed is I would imagine one possible endpoint. Designer plagues aimed at certain ethnic groups is of course another.
~:smoking:
Like Saddam's search for the "Jew gene". I thought my eyes were going to roll right out of my head when I heard that one. I'm not sure how it was verified but I know it isn't beneath him.
Devastatin Dave
02-03-2006, 02:20
My biggest fear is that if countries refuse to develop such things they'll not even know who to deal with the threats of others creating them. (Sort of like the UK and USA don't of course manufacture biological or chemical weapons - our labs only work hard to disarm them... of course they have to make them first...)
Although definitely Sci-Fi, facing a foe that can either give its soldiers a compound that removes fear or develops soldiers that become complete psychos when a certain dietry additive is removed is I would imagine one possible endpoint. Designer plagues aimed at certain ethnic groups is of course another.
~:smoking:
rory's back!!! Welcome back!!!:2thumbsup:
I think it's interesting. People have always wanted to emulate animal characteristics, and the practicalities of having a tail would be boundless...
Zalmoxis
02-03-2006, 05:49
Golden eyes, I want golden eyes.
Samurai Waki
02-03-2006, 05:55
As long as I have wings when I die, I'll be satisified. I don't care if they look like bat wings or bird wings... I just want wings dammit!
I'll see your glowing pigs, and raise you a glowing bunny. Meet Alba, the transgenic rabbit:
http://www.ekac.org/Forbes/bunny_200x150.jpg
Don Corleone
02-03-2006, 16:54
THere was a thread about 6-8 months ago that talked about manimals and the ethics of it. I was called a prude and a luddite because I frowned on it, so I changed my stance. I'm still waiting for bucky, moo-moo and scratchy: the man-beaver (aka human chainsaw); man-cow (aka lawnmower) and man-badger (aka intelligent shovel) that were going to free me from yard work forever.
Come on, all you cloning & eugenics fans... where's my tools? I'm tired of the promise of the future, I want my yard cleaned up, and I want it yesterday!
RabidGibbon
02-04-2006, 00:02
https://usera.imagecave.com/RabidGibbon/Elephant.jpg
@ Lemur, I'll see your transgenic bunny and raise you PyroNelly, the firebreathing Elephant.
On second thoughts maybe I'll fold, never was much good at bluffing.
@ Don Corleone, Don't be silly, obviously no one thinks that hybrid manimals should be used for such trivial tasks. Obviously they should only ever be created in highly secure enviroments for extremely specific purposes.
Like some sort of Colosseum style televised arena broadcast on pay per view!
I can see it now: Rhino-Man vs Snake-Woman, the fight of the decade. Man, I should have gone into GeneticMonsterism - thats where the real money is these days.
I can see it now: Rhino-Man vs Snake-Woman, the fight of the decade. Man, I should have gone into GeneticMonsterism - thats where the real money is these days.
We can only hope, Gibbon, we can only hope. First we have to get past the growing-human-ears-on-the-backs-of-mice phase, amusing as it may be:
http://www.trinity.edu/~mkearl/mouse-ear.jpg
How could anyone look at that cute li'l ear and say it's wrong?
Kralizec
02-05-2006, 18:43
Scientists have in the past spliced human genes into bacteria so that these bacteria were to produce insulin.
Bush really does hate diabetics.
Rodion Romanovich
02-05-2006, 18:50
Much good can come from cloning and genetical research, but even more bad things. It's difficult to formulate a law that effectively allows the good parts and prohibits the dangerous parts. As long as that obstacle remains it IMO seems logical to prohibit the whole thing. Just imagine how the value of human life would decrease if it was possible to clone and genetically modify people. Already plastic surgery and makeup has dangerous effects to self-esteem, indentity and respect of life. It's not just a myth that some scientists are working on cloning actual human beings and perform similar very unethical and dangerous things. So while the decision might be caused by religious values and way of thinking, there's scientific and humanistic argumentation for the decision.
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