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Forward Observer
02-09-2006, 06:24
I'm not including DOS based games that may have been re-issued for Windows, but games that were created for the Windows platform.

1. The oldest I think I have loaded is the original Panzer Commander, which was developed and published back in mid 1998 by the now defunct Strategic Simulations

When I bought my new rig last year, I kept my old WinME based rig with an older ATI card to maintain as a legacy rig just to run these old games. I have also purposely not upgraded the graphic drivers for this older rig in over two years just to help avoid graphics anomalies that can happen with these older games.

The resolution for this game is fixed at 640 by 480, so the terrain and structures are pretty simplistic, but it still plays well and all the German tanks are just as much fun as i remember to operate.

2. I also loaded up an old EA game called RECOIL from 1999. It's a sci-fi tank shooter by Zipper Interactive (they also did the first Crimson Skies for Microsoft). The cut scenes are live action videos shot real fuzzy with lots of static to make them look like some sort of strange transmissions from underground rebels.

As you progress through the game your tank gets upgraded to also operate as a hover craft, an air boat, and a submarine.

3. Next I have the above mentioned Crimson Skies that came out in 2000 loaded and play through the levels occasionally. IMHO it is still one of the most fun and entertaining arcade flight games ever made.

4. Another that I have loaded that came out in 2000 is the original SeaDogs by Akella. It was one of the first and in my opinion still the best attempt to take the original Sid Meiers "Pirates" style game to full 3D with campaigns for each of the colonial powers and outstanding "age of sail" pirate naval battles.

I also play it off and on with a neat mod that adds several new campaigns, quests, and other features to the game.

5. Finally, I just loaded up Freespace 2 by Interactive, also from 1999on my new rig. It was a bit more sophisticated in the graphics area for the time and it seems to run with no poblems on my new rig.

I have never finished the entire campaign, but I have vowed to do it this time. It is still consider by many be one of the best, if not the best, space sims ever made. Original copies of the game are scarce and used to sell for $100 and up on E-Bay. I think the code was finally made open source, and it may be available as freeware now.

So--what's your oldest PC game that you play on a regular basis?

Martok
02-09-2006, 08:16
1.) Command & Conquer: Red Alert (1995)
2.) Lords of the Realm II (1997)
3.) Descent 2 (1998)
4.) Birth of the Federation (1999)
5.) Shogun Total War (2000)


I won't claim I play the first 3 games very often, but every once in a while I get nostalgic and pop one of them in for an hour or two. I actually still play BotF and Shoggy at least a couple hours a week, although that's not as often as I used to. (Medieval Total War is still the game that occupies most of my time.) ~:)

Mount Suribachi
02-09-2006, 08:22
Panzer General 2

Its available as freeware on the web, and I play it on my wifes ancient work PC ~:)

Androo
02-09-2006, 08:28
Combat Flight Simulator 2 (from 2000, I believe). I find the graphics still look quite good relative to Combat Flight Simulator 3 and LoMAC.

I keep thinking about taking Combat Flight Simulator (1) for a spin. It was my first game and sort of the culmination of a dream I had had since 1970, (yes, I am that old), when I first saw the film The Battle of Britain. The feeling I had when I slowly opened the throttle and my spitfire began to accelerate down the grass strip, every bump transmitted by my sidewinder force feedback joystick- incredible! Pure joy! I suppose I have been chasing that moment in my gaming ever since. *wistful sigh*

Edit:Martok posted while I was writing the above- I had forgotten STW was from 2000. Definitely still play that. The first time I loaded it, waiting for something stupid and gamey to happen and it didn't and I realized that somebody had actually made a (mostly) realistic tactical game- another great moment.

Sjakihata
02-09-2006, 08:48
Star Craft
Caesar III

Samurai Waki
02-09-2006, 09:01
Operation Flashpoint. with mods O' course.

doc_bean
02-09-2006, 09:06
Total Annihilation ('97)

Recently reinstalled it.

GoreBag
02-09-2006, 09:06
Eye of the Beholder (1991). If I was running an Apple, I'd be playing MacNinja and that other game where you drop a guy out of a helicopter into a haywagon.

econ21
02-09-2006, 10:23
I'm not including DOS based games that may have been re-issued for Windows,

I wish you were, then I could mention X-Com1, 1994, (akka UFO: Enemy Unknown). Played it quite a bit recently and amazingly it still holds up as a great game in both its gripping gameplay - rather like Total War in having both great tactical combat and a compelling strategic layer - and also its remarkable atmosphere.

I've also recently re-played Might and Magic VII, 1999. I'd like to get MM6, 1998, to work on Windows XP but it doesn't. Both games provide that classic RPG hook of continually getting experience and stuff (right up to level 100 or so), and both have enormous worlds that still feel more engaging than the curiously dead worlds of some modern RPGs such as Morrowind.

Lately, I've been getting a hankering to revisit Pacific General 1997, and Baldur's Gate 1, 1998. The former allows you to run Japanese bicycle infantry units from victory right from China in 1937 to the mid-West of America in 1945. The latter is like immersing yourself in a gorgeous bath of DnD goodness and staying in there for several months. I'm in need of an RPG fix and although I've had Oblivion on pre-order for months, I am sure it won't come near to rivalling BG1 when it finally comes out.

Ciaran
02-09-2006, 11:52
The oldest Windows-only game, that could well be Jagged Alliance II (1998), at least that´s what comes to my mind. Other old games include the DOS classics, like Command & Conquer Tiberium Conflict, Master of Magic, UFO and X-Com, Jagged Alliance I, Panzer General...

lancelot
02-09-2006, 12:46
Birth of the Federation, if Im really bored...

TinCow
02-09-2006, 13:21
I've been replaying some old games lately, including Magic: The Gathering (1997) and Battle Isle 2 (1994). However, easily the oldest game I play regularly is the original Castles by Interplay (1991). Now, regularly for this game means off and on for a month or so every year and half... but I still love it.

Lemur
02-09-2006, 16:20
I'm midway through a nostalgic replay of Fallout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(computer_game)). If you've never played it, you don't know what you're missing. Ah, the RPG heyday of 1997.

Subedei
02-09-2006, 16:39
I would LOVe to play "WASTELAND", a role-playing game set i the post-nuke war Las Vegas. Had it on C64. Man, you had crazy nuns, all kinds of weapons and the decent humour was awesome. Does anybody know it?

Ser Clegane
02-09-2006, 16:59
I would LOVe to play "WASTELAND", a role-playing game set i the post-nuke war Las Vegas. Had it on C64. Man, you had crazy nuns, all kinds of weapons and the decent humour was awesome. Does anybody know it?

Is that the one from the Bard's Tale makers? I think I have it somewhere as part of a collection of RPG classics that I bought a couple of years ago.

I think I have to check if it runs under XP - but I fear that even if it runs I will be appalled by the graphics - my nostalgic feelings for old RPGs usually fade away pretty quickly once I fire up games like "Bard's Tale" or "Pool's of Radiance" (the old one)

One of the games I still play from time to time is "Fantasy General" (1996), pretty recently I started to re-play "Ravenloft: Stone Prophet".

BG1 is still quite nice - after having played through BG2 and the expansion, starting BG1 again with a level 1 character who has to kill rats is like re-visiting childhood ~:)

The_Mark
02-09-2006, 17:12
Operation Flashpoint. with mods O' course.
Same here. I'd probably start Baldur's Gate (1) again if I had the time, though.

drone
02-09-2006, 17:34
Master Of Orion 2
Birth of the Federation
Medieval TW

Mikeus Caesar
02-09-2006, 18:27
Me and my Dad play Age of Empires multiplayer about once a month. I think that's the oldest i play, although it might be Half Life (hard to believe it's 8 years old!), as they were both released within a year or so of each other.

Trust me, if some of my older games would work with Win XP, i'd be playing games from '94!

Lemur
02-09-2006, 18:36
I fear that even if it runs I will be appalled by the graphics - my nostalgic feelings for old RPGs usually fade away pretty quickly once I fire up games like "Bard's Tale" or "Pool's of Radiance" (the old one)
What'choo talkin bout? Wasteland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_%28computer_game%29) had uber-leet graphics. For, uh, 1988 that is. Dig the pixels:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Wastelandgame1.png

Xiahou
02-09-2006, 21:14
I think I have to check if it runs under XP - but I fear that even if it runs I will be appalled by the graphics - my nostalgic feelings for old RPGs usually fade away pretty quickly once I fire up games like "Bard's Tale" or "Pool's of Radiance" (the old one)Isnt it sad how that happens? I used to get so immersed in some of those old RPGs, but when I load most of them up again the magic's just gone because the graphics are too primitive. :no:

dagiz
02-10-2006, 21:15
Ultima IV for the Apple II (yes I still have one that actually works...its a little disturbing I know)

Dungeon Master I & II (both were from the Atari 1600 - and no I don't own that anymore - it met a bottle of Pepsi and decided to quit).

Old, very old games - and though you said not to include any DOS games, I do run through all the Zork's when I travel. Well, at least I used to until I realized how fast I was going throught them.

Lords of Magic. and Fallout as well.

GoreBag
02-10-2006, 21:40
I would LOVe to play "WASTELAND", a role-playing game set i the post-nuke war Las Vegas. Had it on C64. Man, you had crazy nuns, all kinds of weapons and the decent humour was awesome. Does anybody know it?

Yep, I know it. My friend got into a MUD version of the game some time ago.

Chimpyang
02-11-2006, 17:38
Ceaser 3....had a massive shock when a massive army came a-knocking on my door....forgot all the events that happen so it was like playing it from new again.

Evil_Maniac From Mars
02-11-2006, 19:52
I don't play many of my old ones regularly anymore, the oldest ones are probably Battlefield 1942, Age of Empires I, and Republic: The Revolution, not to mention the good old M:TW: VI.


EDIT: And Ceasar III.

Somebody Else
02-11-2006, 19:54
Solitaire

The_Doctor
02-11-2006, 20:59
Sid Meier's Colonisation.

The only problem it is a bit buggy and the AI is a bit odd.

Other than AOE3 and Anno games, are there any good games like it?

Craterus
02-12-2006, 02:06
Solitaire

Yeah, and minesweeper. :2thumbsup:

Kekvit Irae
02-12-2006, 02:07
Zork, on my AppleIIgs

littlelostboy
02-12-2006, 02:57
Civnet and Command and Conquer: Yuri's Revenge. And King Quest III or IV or VI (can't remember) and erm Age of the Empires II. Yep, that's it. Apart from Yuri's Revenge and Age of the Empires II which I still play, the other two had lost their spark (graphics, bad) and Civnet AI is kinda odd.

GiantMonkeyMan
02-12-2006, 13:51
Red Alert
Alpha Centauri
Caesar 3
Shogun: Total War
are about the oldest games i play... i installed win98 just to play red alert on my laptop cos it is just such a class game... in a way i think that games these days have actually gone down in gameplay and it is all about graphics apart from a few great recent games (Call of Duty for one)

screwtype
02-12-2006, 16:08
I've also recently re-played Might and Magic VII, 1999. I'd like to get MM6, 1998, to work on Windows XP but it doesn't. Both games provide that classic RPG hook of continually getting experience and stuff (right up to level 100 or so), and both have enormous worlds that still feel more engaging than the curiously dead worlds of some modern RPGs such as Morrowind.

I've still got M&M8, it's the first game I bought for the PC. I had a lot of fun with that game but sadly it had a bug in it that prevented me getting beyond a certain point (hmmm...now that it occurs to me, I have a new PC and OS now...)

Yeah I love that mindless hack 'n' slash stuff. I especially liked beating up the ghouls and vampires in the wilderness area, the ranged fire is pretty powerful in that game and it's great fun letting 'em have it from afar :)


Lately, I've been getting a hankering to revisit Pacific General 1997, and Baldur's Gate 1, 1998. The former allows you to run Japanese bicycle infantry units from victory right from China in 1937 to the mid-West of America in 1945. The latter is like immersing yourself in a gorgeous bath of DnD goodness and staying in there for several months. I'm in need of an RPG fix and although I've had Oblivion on pre-order for months, I am sure it won't come near to rivalling BG1 when it finally comes out.

BG1 - yuck. Just thinking about that game causes me to start growing sleepy.

Although when I think about it, it's true I did enjoy it when I first started playing it, on my brother's PC. But when I took it back to my place and finally got around to installing it and getting back to where I'd been weeks before, all the thrill was gone. Completely. And it's never returned.

I still have my trusty old Amiga 1200 sitting here in a box. If I ever get it up and running again (it needs some fine soldering work done to the mobo) I'll go right back to playing Lords of the Realm II again, which hails from about 1994. The Amiga version of that game is WAY better than the PC version.

screwtype
02-12-2006, 16:32
Ultima IV for the Apple II (yes I still have one that actually works...its a little disturbing I know)

Ugh. I LOATHE the Ultima gameworld. All those infuriatingly "virtuous" people you have to put up with. Not to mention the CRAP gameplay (alright, I only ever played the Amiga version of Ultima 3. Disk swapping every 20 seconds is NOT my idea of fun).


Dungeon Master I & II (both were from the Atari 1600 - and no I don't own that anymore - it met a bottle of Pepsi and decided to quit).



I still have my copy of DM1 on the Amiga. I fired it up a year or so ago, and instantly got back into it again. Suprising how well some of these older and far simpler games can stand up to the test of time...

econ21
02-12-2006, 16:59
I'd like to get MM6, 1998, to work on Windows XP but it doesn't.

Just a footnote to say I've figured out how to get it to work. A fan has made a "patch" (1.3) that among other things gets it going in Windows XP.

Ser Clegane
02-12-2006, 20:24
You don't happen to still have the link to that patch?

Please?

Pretty please??

Crazed Rabbit
02-12-2006, 21:14
I still have my trusty old Amiga 1200 sitting here in a box. If I ever get it up and running again (it needs some fine soldering work done to the mobo) I'll go right back to playing Lords of the Realm II again, which hails from about 1994. The Amiga version of that game is WAY better than the PC version.

Really? How so? I remember playing LOTR II a lot back in the day.

Currently, the oldest game I play is Tribes 2. 2001ish.

Crazed Rabbit

econ21
02-13-2006, 02:30
You don't happen to still have the link to that patch?

Please?

Pretty please??

I found the patch and link by searching one of the best MM forums:

http://telp.org/mm6/tavern/mm6tavern.html

The patch is here:

http://strony.aster.pl/mokmtg/mm6_eng_patch.exe

Zalmoxis
02-13-2006, 03:52
I think the oldest game I still play X-Wing, and the sister game Tie-Fighter.

screwtype
02-13-2006, 09:18
Really? How so? I remember playing LOTR II a lot back in the day.


You mean, how is the Amiga version of LOTRII better than the PC version?

The Amiga version clearly benefited from its PC predecessors. First of all, the Amiga version is a LOT prettier (though not up to the standard of modern PC games of course).

Secondly, when I finally got around to the PC version, I was really annoyed at the very clumsy method of assigning peasants to different jobs. You have this little window filled with sprites in fields and you have to "rope" the sprites by drawing a square around them with the mouse and then dropping them on a different field. It's finicky, and you can never tell exactly how many sprites you picked up until you actually drop them somewhere else, meaning often multiple trips back and forth before you get the assignment just the way you want it. And because it's such an important part of the game, this aspect quickly becomes really tedius.

With the Amiga version, ALL your peasant assignments are simply done with sliders. Not only is it instant, but you can always see exactly what you're doing and how many peasants are assigned to what. Makes a huge difference to gameplay.

Third, with the PC version you just get a bunch of "pre-digested" castles to build. In the Amiga version, you can design every aspect of your castle, and go on redesigning and/or upgrading your castle right throughout the game. It's a fun part of the game, and quite an important part of strategy. For instance, you can add more grain warehouses to a castle, meaning the troops in it can hold out longer. Every addition to a castle obviously costs money and resources, though.

Fourth, the combat system is more fun and better balanced. For example, your soldiers (except the peasants) maintain a formation, even in combat. And the better the soldier type the more disciplined they are. In the PC version, they are all basically just a rabble.

Fifth, the gameplay seems to be better balanced in every aspect. I find the Amiga version just plain more exciting and challenging to play.

To give you just one example that occurs to me as I write, in the PC version you have virtually this constant stream of trader wagons visiting your provinces. So a province is almost never without access to any goodies it needs from the traders.

In the Amiga version, traders only come around once a year at most and even then they sometimes they don't get to every province. The end result is that you can be really hanging out for a trader wagon to come around so you can sell your wool for vital cash, get that critical happy boost from beer, or buy that much needed extra grain, and so on.

Also, in the Amiga version traders don't carry every type of good all the time. So even if a trader comes around, he may not have the item or items you need.

Same thing with mercenaries. In the PC version, they wander around from province to province so you always have the opportunity to pick some up. In the Amiga version, they only appear in a handful of port provinces so if you haven't conquered one of those provinces, tough cookies.

Probably the only aspect of the Amiga version that might be considered not as good as the PC version is that castle assaults are more abstracted. You have this funny little system where you assign soldiers to different activities in different parts of the castle, like you might assign some to filling in the moat by the east wall, while you assign others to bombard the eastern towers with catapults. At the end of every turn, you are just told how many soldiers got killed during these little actions and how many of the enemy etc.

But again, it's a very carefully balanced subgame and quite fun to play. I actually prefer it to the rather simple and chaotic RTS style castle battles in the PC version. You have to plan your castle taking strategy in the Amiga version, and it usually takes you several turns to implement it, with soldiers on both sides getting killed each step of the way and refinements to your strategy or suspension of proceedings sometimes necessary. So even though the combat itself is abstracted, it's made up for by the extra strategy you have to employ.

I'd like to post you some screenshots of the Amiga version but unfortunately as I said my 'miggy is out of order right now...

Ser Clegane
02-13-2006, 09:46
I found the patch and link by searching one of the best MM forums:

http://telp.org/mm6/tavern/mm6tavern.html

The patch is here:

http://strony.aster.pl/mokmtg/mm6_eng_patch.exe

Thanks :bow:

Voigtkampf
02-13-2006, 22:15
I just reinstalled the legend - Blade Runner.

Craterus
02-13-2006, 23:47
I just reinstalled Risk II.

Got thrashed within 15 turns by Wellington and Bonaparte working together. :2thumbsup:

BHCWarman88
02-14-2006, 22:12
RISK!!!!


the First game i ever played was

Lords of the Realm 2

the First Old Old Series I played was
Quest For Glory 1-5

screwtype
02-16-2006, 11:34
I just went and reinstalled Might and Magic VIII, and I can't believe how crummy the graphics are! The monsters are really blocky and the 3D "world" is quite primitive.

Amazing how quickly you can get spoiled by advances in technology. I had fond memories of this game from when I last played it in 2001, now I don't think I can be bothered with it.

econ21
02-16-2006, 12:47
Strangely, I find the graphics after MMVI went right downhill. I think it was trying to do some primitive 3D stuff. I played MMVI recently and thought it was still atmospheric and decent looking. Whenever I load up MMVII, it takes me time to get used to the ugliness.

Personally, I could never get into the setting of MMVIII. MMVI really captured my imagination with its epic setting - confronting a demon invasion. MMVII provided more a vignette, but was much more digestible and well structured as a game. MMVIII for me was just bleh (I can't even recall what it was about - some dude causing natural catastrophes or something? Or was that the even more forgettable MMIX?).

Fragony
02-16-2006, 12:51
Can't get enough of X-com and Alpha Centauri :2thumbsup:

Antagonist
02-16-2006, 13:21
I still have plenty of fairly old games which I play now and again. I recently played through Alpha Centauri and Thief, for example. I some fairly aged console games which I play fairly regularly as well. The oldest PC game I've played anything like recently is System Shock (1994) Excellent game, very much ahead of it's time.

Antagonist

Fragony
02-16-2006, 13:26
I still have plenty of fairly old games which I play now and again. I recently played through Alpha Centauri and Thief, for example. I some fairly aged console games which I play fairly regularly as well. The oldest PC game I've played anything like recently is System Shock (1994) Excellent game, very much ahead of it's time.

Antagonist

How on earth could I forget mentioning my all time favorite Thief??????????? Soooooooooooo many great fanmissions, been playing this game since it was released.......

screwtype
02-16-2006, 15:13
Strangely, I find the graphics after MMVI went right downhill. I think it was trying to do some primitive 3D stuff. I played MMVI recently and thought it was still atmospheric and decent looking. Whenever I load up MMVII, it takes me time to get used to the ugliness.

Personally, I could never get into the setting of MMVIII. MMVI really captured my imagination with its epic setting - confronting a demon invasion. MMVII provided more a vignette, but was much more digestible and well structured as a game. MMVIII for me was just bleh (I can't even recall what it was about - some dude causing natural catastrophes or something? Or was that the even more forgettable MMIX?).

Yeah, I was wondering if perhaps the earlier graphics mightn't have been better, because I think MM8 was one the first in the series to go "3D" and it isn't too well done.

And yes, MM8 is about "some dude causing natural catastrophes". I actually find the underlying story quite reasonable as computer game plots go, but yeah, it's a fairly big game and you can feel a bit overwhelmed by it at times.

Maybe I'll see if I can get hold of a copy of MM6 or 7. BTW, have you ever played any of the Heroes of MM series? I've heard some of them are quite good.

econ21
02-16-2006, 16:24
BTW, have you ever played any of the Heroes of MM series? I've heard some of them are quite good.

I tried Homm3 and Homm4; people say Homm2 was very good and I'm a bit sceptical about Homm5.

Homm3 is a very good game, if you like that kind of thing. Personally, I think it's a little too "gamey" in the way that RTSs are - the tactics and strategy you use have no relation to what it is intuitive. But I played it a lot with my young son and enjoy soloing one or two of the epic scenarios (esp. a Lord of the Rings one and a Might and Magic VI one). Graphically, I still think it is very attractive, the AI is pretty good (better than TWs IMO) and it is a very polished product.

Homm4 I consider broken in the way that Call to Power 2 was. The strategic AI is lobotomised and does not fight. You end up fighting the map (wandering monsters) and seeing the occaisional corpse of the AI's heroes. It's just sad, as graphically it is cute and it has a superb system for levelling up your heroes.

Homm5 promises to go back to Homm3 style gameplay but I won't hold my breath.

TB666
02-16-2006, 18:15
The oldest game I play is Civil war generals 2
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civilwargenerals2gls/index.html?q=civil%20war%20generals
It is a great game.

screwtype
02-17-2006, 07:06
Okey-doke, thanks for the heads up Simon :)

screwtype
02-18-2006, 11:29
The oldest game I play is Civil war generals 2
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civilwargenerals2gls/index.html?q=civil%20war%20generals
It is a great game.

Thanks for the heads up TB, but when I tried to dl and install the demo, it appears to be DOS-based and I have no idea how to get it to run. The folders which are supposed to contain the demo show up as empty on my PC.

Alexanderofmacedon
02-20-2006, 00:17
I think oldest are:

1. Empire Earth
2. Halo
3. Halo 2
4. Rome: Total War
5. Empire Earth 2

But those are the only games I play!

Lemur
02-20-2006, 03:27
Can't get enough of X-com and Alpha Centauri :2thumbsup:
Alpha Centauri -- now there's a game I lost a month of my life to. I'd be playing it now if I hadn't given my feckless brother the disk five years ago. I don't think you can even buy it anymore.

So sad, so sad ...

Fragony
02-20-2006, 17:27
Alpha Centauri -- now there's a game I lost a month of my life to. I'd be playing it now if I hadn't given my feckless brother the disk five years ago. I don't think you can even buy it anymore.

So sad, so sad ...

http://www.cdaccess.com/html/quick/alphacpr.htm

way too expensive though....

Slyspy
02-20-2006, 19:50
I occassionally play Colonisation, though I believe that stricky speaking it is a DOS game that can be forced to work in Windows.

The other than that the oldest game I played recently was Close Combat 3. That was from '97 or '98 I think.

TinCow
02-20-2006, 21:19
I tried Homm3 and Homm4; people say Homm2 was very good and I'm a bit sceptical about Homm5.

Homm3 is a very good game, if you like that kind of thing. Personally, I think it's a little too "gamey" in the way that RTSs are - the tactics and strategy you use have no relation to what it is intuitive. But I played it a lot with my young son and enjoy soloing one or two of the epic scenarios (esp. a Lord of the Rings one and a Might and Magic VI one). Graphically, I still think it is very attractive, the AI is pretty good (better than TWs IMO) and it is a very polished product.

Homm4 I consider broken in the way that Call to Power 2 was. The strategic AI is lobotomised and does not fight. You end up fighting the map (wandering monsters) and seeing the occaisional corpse of the AI's heroes. It's just sad, as graphically it is cute and it has a superb system for levelling up your heroes.

Homm5 promises to go back to Homm3 style gameplay but I won't hold my breath.

HOMM2 actually was the best and it's considered so by most fans. It was perfectly balanced and had fabulous campaigns, a difficult AI and the best music in any game for its time. HOMM3 added to everyone's favorite aspects of HOMM2, but that totally threw the play balance out of whack with some castles and creatures being completely superior to others with little to no weaknesses. HOMM4 was just horrid for the reasons you mentioned and more. They pretty much just sequelled the games into the ground.

A great deal of the hope for HOMM5 comes from the fact that the original dev and producers have gone under. The game is being made by a completely new team who are going back to the very best elements of the series. Of course, we won't know how it will turn out until it has been released, but hopefully new blood will give this series a second life.

Bob the Insane
02-22-2006, 15:40
Easy, various Close Combat versions...

Still no game has manage to recapture the confusion, surprizes and brutality and tactical elements of battles (in WW2) as well this 2D, sprite based game... Your troops moave at realistic paces, the weaposn seem as effective as they should be and the way morale was implimented has still not been improved upon...

Oh and I occasionally dig out Fallout and Fallout 2...

C-F
02-23-2006, 06:13
https://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8272/minesweeper1cz.jpg (https://imageshack.us)


:laugh4: :2thumbsup: :wall:

Blodrast
03-01-2006, 22:46
must be Panzer General (the first one), the two X-Com games, and Wolfenstein-3D (I even found a windows version of it... ;) ).

BelgradeWar
03-01-2006, 23:22
Fallout I. Along with Fallout II, it's the best game duo (I&II) I ever played. And I played a lot of games...hell, FO II is THE best game I ever played...

ShadesWolf
03-02-2006, 10:36
No particular order

Sid Meier's Colonisation - (my fav game of all time)
MTW
Birth of the Federation
Cival war generals 2 - (when I fancy a good battle)
Jelly Monsters (Vic20 emulator - version of pacman)
Bubble Bobble

I remember back to the old C64 days, I had a couple of great war games by US Gold, one was called Normandy but I cant remeber the other. They kept me playing for years. Pity we have no games of that type now.

Geezer57
03-04-2006, 14:41
Alpha Centauri -- now there's a game I lost a month of my life to. I'd be playing it now if I hadn't given my feckless brother the disk five years ago. I don't think you can even buy it anymore.

So sad, so sad ...
It seems to be available for less than $5.00 (not including shipping) from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005AG0S/104-7931758-7881567?v=glance

I've never let my copy get away from me. :laugh4:

Voigtkampf
03-04-2006, 22:58
Reinstalled The Longest Journey... Magnificent.

Banquo's Ghost
03-05-2006, 12:28
Caesar III gets fired up every now and then.

Baldur's Gate 1&2 with expansions run nicely on my Mac, so they get revisited quite often.

From the same stable, I keep going back to Planescape:Torment - now that is a bad trip :dizzy2: but I'm determined to figure it out.

Oh and of course, Ultima Online. Had a subscription since 1998. How sad is that?!

Midnight
03-05-2006, 17:32
Oldest game's probably Ultima VII, but I also play:

Alpha Centauri
Planescape:Torment
Total Annihilation
STW
MTW

I would play Fallout2 if I could get the damn thing to run under XP...

Avicenna
03-07-2006, 16:03
Very rarely AoEII, solitaire, minesweeper, and oldest of all donkey kong.

Paul Peru
03-07-2006, 19:30
Micro Machines II
One Must Fall
Medieval: Total War

Shaka_Khan
03-12-2006, 11:48
Solitaire and Pinball

Upxl
03-13-2006, 22:30
Sid Meiers Colonization.

proofs you don't need good graphs to create a fun game.

John86
03-18-2006, 02:12
Army Men
Greatest game ever made.

Togakure
03-18-2006, 02:53
Either Quake or Masters of Orion II or Torment. I don't know which of these is the oldest.

Edit: Oh and Alpha Centauri too. I like to mod it to resemble Dune factions.

professorspatula
03-26-2006, 23:03
I have a few old games on my PC. Today I revisited Ultima 7 briefly. A great game. I also have the original Doom and it's addons and sequels that I reinstalled a year and a half ago. Playing it on the net is hilarious fun! I used to make levels and stuff for it so occasionally I revisit it. I also still have Theme Hospital and System Shock installed, the latter one I can't quite get to play as nice as I'd like on XP. There's some other old games I still play now and again as well, but the oldest is definitely Ultima 7. A masterpiece of gaming, full of bugs, but still great. What a shame every Ultima after that got worse.