a question from a newbie

[yojimbo]

I just got this game

my biggest problem is fighting....
when 60 of my spearmen fight 60 enemy spearmen my spearmen get destroyed i take them down to about 40 and i rout with maybe 8 or 15 spearmen left. what can i do to get the edge on them? i've tryed using ranged units to take them down to 50 vs. 60 but they still destroy me!

[FearedSangsara]

yojimbo,

Many issues can be affecting your preformance. First off, are you using Yari Ashigaru and the computer is using Yari Samurai? If so, there's your problem. Yari Ashigaru have one purpose in this game, soak up enemy arows so your real troops dont have to deal with that.
Also, is he on the higher ground attacking down on you? You ALWAYS want to have the highground if at all possible.
How far away is your general from the unit who is in battle? the further away a unit is from his general, the more worrysome he is. Also is he enemy attacking you from the front or from the side?

As you can see there are MANY MANY things that go into what makes one unit win and one unit lose. That is why STW is one of the best war strategy games ever.

Enjoy

Sangs

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[yojimbo]

I just tryed several ways to beat them. The most effective was to go on a near by hill and use a calvery unit as a decoy. Then flank there unit.

thank you, your advice helped!

[This message has been edited by yojimbo (edited 02-20-2001).]

[Shiro]

It could be that one of that units has a much higher honor level. By the way, welcome to the dojo.

[yojimbo]

well we both had yari samuri but still i can figure out how to beat that group one on one. should i let them charge and hold formation and hold position?

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[Shiro]

Yari Samurai can vary in honor levels as can any unit.

[Doragon_Ajidrik]

Put ur yari samauri in hold position. hope that helps you. Go to custom battles and try it out. Also, try to fight them downhill or be on slightly higher ground then them. Honor, make sure ur men have higher honor then them or equal. hope that helps.

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[ShaiHulud]

Yojimbo...ALWAYS counter-charge! The initial bonus for a charge can cost you the margin of loss in the battle, easily, in the first contact. Whoever is charging gets a bonus. Allow only the foe to charge and you give him initial advantage.

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[Didz]

Quote Originally posted by Shiro:
It could be that one of that units has a much higher honor level. By the way, welcome to the dojo.[/QUOTE]

Just in case you don't know. You can tell how much honour a unit has by counting the number of flags it is carrying.

[FearedSangsara]

Actually Didz, to be correct, you count the amount of flags, then minus one and that equals the honor. Because a unit with 0 honor has 1 flag. 1 honor =2 flags, 2 honor=3 flags, etc

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[Hirosito]

made easier you just count the small flags

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[BanzaiZAP]

Yojimbo:
First, welcome!
Second, there are a great many things that will make the computer kick your butt, or vice cersa. Things to look at:

Fatigue (tired men die easily. Make him come after you!)

Honor (more experienced men kill more easily)

Terrain (always be uphill above the enemy, and yari don't like forests!)

Morale (impetuous and steady men will look for more people to attack, uncertain will hesitate, and wavering are getting ready to run away)

Flank vs Head-On (if you flank him, you've got the advantage. Don't let him behind you!)

Hold Position/Formation (holding means you live longer, but do NOT kill as often! Some ppl will Hold until they have the enemy outnumbered, then switch to Engage At Will)

Other points - Charging gives you a temporary Kill Faster bonus. Killing his general hurts his whole army's morale. yari kill cavalry, cavalry kills archers, archers kill monks, monks kill yari....
What will help your game the most is: practice! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif
Hope this helps!

-- B)