Hearts of Iron II: Mutliplayer Signup [Archive]

GoreBag

02-28-2006, 06:44

I'd like to discuss the particulars of this game here, being which scenario to play (probably '36), who will control whom, whether or not faction switching is allowed, and how many players we'd like to have before hitting the switch.

1) GoreBag
2) (empty)
3) Eternal Champion
4) Discovery1 - Nationalist China
5) Dutch_Guy
6) SFTS
7) RussianCsar
8) [DnC] - Romania
9) (empty)
10) (empty)

Floaters: (none)
Withdrawals: JimBob; GelatinousCube; UglyAndHasty; Duke Malcolm; King Ragnar

Version 1.3a it is. Also, we'll be using the Sino-Japanese war event fixes, which is found at this location (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219343).

Password is 'org'.

discovery1

02-28-2006, 06:52

Nationalist China. There are problems with the events surrounding the Sino-Japanese war though. Fix is here (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219343)

GoreBag

02-28-2006, 07:04

Just a note. Everyone wil need to be running the EXACT. SAME. VERSION. for this to work. I suggest everyone completely uninstalls, then re-installs, then patches, then installs whatever mods we might be using. Only then can we be assured that that particular part of the setup is taken care of.

Yeah, 1.3. Unless we decide to go ahead with Disco's suggested Sino-Japanese fix.

Another note: MP games of HoI2 are massive investments. We'll need to do our best to ensure everyone can be at every game. We'll also want to lay down any house rules right from the start, so nobody is taken unawares as we progress, and so no disputes arise.

This is the place to do so.

discovery1

02-28-2006, 07:06

That works with 1.3. It fixes events added in 1.3.

discovery1

02-28-2006, 07:11

Pretty sure it's compatible with all of them. All it does is over write a few events

GoreBag

02-28-2006, 07:11

Well, the latest one is 1.3a. Where is this 1.3b you speak of?

Dutch_guy

02-28-2006, 17:07

I might consider joining up, as I was one of the people who wanted to start a MP game up in the other thread. However I haven't played the game in a while and although I knew my way around the game when I played it every chance I got, I might have forgotten even the most basic things of the game...

Also, when would you guys consider running the MP game, I ask because I'm not able to play the next 3-4 days because I'm currently without my PC.

Well anyway hope this works out and I'll let you know if I'm in or not GoreBag

:balloon2:

Strike For The South

02-28-2006, 17:18

Ill try for this weekend (if thats where it lands)

UglyandHasty

02-28-2006, 20:09

I am interested, but need to know when you guys intend to play beofre i commit myself.

[DnC]

02-28-2006, 20:24

I'd like to play, but as a few others have said; when exactly?

If I can, I'd like to be Romania.

Duke Malcolm

02-28-2006, 20:59

I would quite like to give it a bash as Great Britain, If it's not too much trouble please.

JimBob

02-28-2006, 21:04

I'd like to, and has been said before "when exactly", if there are no massive conflicts I'd give it a go as Republican Spain.

Eternal Champion

02-28-2006, 21:16

We seem to have a good amount of players in the same general part of the world, this is good. My "play time" is in the evenings during the week or on the weekends preferably in the mornings. If there is a large difference in time zones then weekends are best as most can accommodate those days some way (morning for some, evening for others).

It's best to stick with the latest official patch to accommodate the most folks. 1.3b isn't exactly "official" and must be installed manually after extracting a .rar file. For this reason I vote for 1.3a and the fact if we have a full boat with all majors being played by humans AI enhancements really don't matter.

MP campaigns are huge investments in time, think about this especially if you want to play a major.

I have no preference except I'd rather not play Germany. I'd like to play Canada unless a major needs to be filled then I'll jump in.

King Ragnar

02-28-2006, 22:19

I will try to play, but time zones may be a major problem with some of you US guys, plus im a total noob lol but i can only learn :D

discovery1

03-01-2006, 00:18

I would perfer that we start after March 8, which is when mid terms end, although I could devote a few hours Saturday, or Friday night.

Samurai Waki

03-01-2006, 01:26

I've got a good common household rule even though I won't be participating. No Unholy Alliances.

This means that major factions such as the USSR, GERMANY, GREAT BRITAIN, JAPAN, ITALY, China, and the USA cannot deviate from what their original alliances were. Especially if the US or USSR decide to join Germany.

discovery1

03-01-2006, 04:09

China? China was in bed with Germany for a while. They definetly shouldn't be forced into joining the Allies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-German_cooperation

GoreBag

03-01-2006, 04:48

Well, the coded events will dictate how most major factions will react, except the USA, really. The minor factions, I think, should have more leeway for forming alliances - we'll all need to pick sides eventually.

Going after Disco's suggestion, the 8th is next Wednesday, which gives us all enough time to prepare and make plans with one another as well as getting the other chores we're all obligated to do out of the way.

Are there any objections for beginning the game on the 8th?

I'll jot down everyone else who said they were interested. If there's overflow, I'll make a waiting list. I guess most people are like me in that they're not sure which faction they'll use - no one seems to want to be the behemoths. I'm happy this has found so much support. Let's keep the discussion rolling.

GoreBag

03-01-2006, 08:29

Well, do you know what your window is?

Dutch_guy

03-01-2006, 16:31

The 8th is good for me, as long as we start at about 1500 Dutch time ( GMT + 1 ).
The weekend following the 8th will probably also work for me.

:balloon2:

[DnC]

03-01-2006, 17:37

Well I can't play at 15.00 hours (GMT+1) because I work till 16.30.
18.30+ would be best for me.

Duke Malcolm

03-01-2006, 21:30

I cannot make the 8th, I have the gym those evenings. Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays are out for me, as are Saturday nights.

discovery1

03-01-2006, 22:51

']Well I can't play at 15.00 hours (GMT+1) because I work till 16.30.
18.30+ would be best for me.

That would be your time yes, not GMT? That makes it 11:30 am here. That's no good for me. Have class until 14:00 hrs local time, so 20:00 GMT.

Eternal Champion

03-01-2006, 23:36

Oh, now the fun begins. :dizzy2:

Weekdays I work and am not available until after 19:00 GMT -5. On weekends I could make most anytime work except really late on Sunday evenings (after 23.00 my time).

I still say accommodating the largest number of people is on the weekends. That's what clans do when they try and get the whole clan together. Some guys will be in the morning, some at night, and a few will be really late and others really early.

The biggest reason for USA and SU not to join together is so the game can continue if Axis goes down. Then the cold war goes hot can kick in.

JimBob

03-02-2006, 00:15

Weekdays seem like too much of a problem, I can't before about 5:00 CST (GMT-6), weekends seem to be the best. Saturdays and parts of Sundays.

GoreBag

03-02-2006, 01:41

Alright. Unless there are any other objections, weekends it is.

Dutch_guy

03-02-2006, 16:45

Weekend are fine with me.

Is everyone available next weekend ( meaning the 11th and 12th)?

:balloon2:

[DnC]

03-02-2006, 17:16

11th and 12th is fine with me, although on the 12th I might be out jogging for a while (2-3 hours gone) with my brother-in-law.

Eternal Champion

03-02-2006, 21:51

I'm good except for several hours in the evening (GMT-5) on the 11th.

JimBob

03-02-2006, 23:21

11th and 12th work well for me, except a sliver of time on the 12th 1-2 hours in the early afternoon (GMT-6).

King Ragnar

03-03-2006, 17:21

Would sunday not be the best day, like i mean in thevenin for us GMT so that means or american buddies can play at somelike 1pm or later.

Dutch_guy

03-03-2006, 18:16

Wel if we do if a bit later in the evening let's not do it on a sunday, games tend to drag out and I don't want to have to interupt it for say...dinner.

:balloon2:

King Ragnar

03-03-2006, 20:49

6/7 GMT better?

discovery1

03-04-2006, 05:17

1 am? That would be 3 AM here.....

I was hoping 11 AM(GMT -6). Not really keen on sleeping all morning unless I am worn out.

GoreBag

03-04-2006, 06:39

It's pretty clear either the Americans or the Europeans will have to make a time concession for this to work. Either's fine by me, so you all work it out.

EHEM.

Eternal Champion

03-07-2006, 03:30

I'll go with the 11am or Euro plan, I'm not getting up at 4am in the morning to play a game. Or did you mean 1pm? If so then the Americans are on the same page and not that far off from our EU friends.

discovery1

03-07-2006, 06:10

So when are we leaning toward playing? 15:00 hrs GMT Saturday?

King Ragnar

03-07-2006, 17:34

I would prefer sunday alot more than saturday, because sunday is the day of rest lol, so no one should be doing anything :)

EDIT: This is gona take for ever if we dont make our minds up soon, so How about we start this Sunday 17:30 GMT ? we play for say 3 hours and then do the following the sunday after and so forth until we reach the end. If your interested in this PM me your MSN or xfire and we will try to arrange things.

[DnC]

03-07-2006, 21:11

I guess that would be doable for me. I'm in for that time.

Dutch_guy

03-07-2006, 21:46

Dont know If I'll be able to , I'll have to see.

I do prefer saturday because I usually use sunday to do my school work, but if we really can't do it any other time I might be able to arrange something.

:balloon2:

GoreBag

03-08-2006, 00:08

I'd also prefer Sunday. 17:30 GMT sounds okay to me.

JimBob

03-08-2006, 00:46

I have to withdraw, sorry guys. My juggling troupe got a gig and we have to do everything in a week. Oh well.

GoreBag

03-08-2006, 00:57

No problems. It was to be expected that someone would have to withdraw.

discovery1

03-08-2006, 06:02

Any time Sunday, well maybe not anytime but out of the range of times being suggested and likely to be suggested, is good for me.

Eternal Champion

03-08-2006, 14:36

Sunday works with me, until I get my lazy arse up and get in race shape. I don't see that happen anytime soon. I'll have to dust off my MSN, haven't used it in years.

UglyandHasty

03-08-2006, 17:42

sorry gents, i wont be able to give time to that game next weekend. Maybe another time. Have fun !

Csargo

03-09-2006, 23:53

I wanna get in on this action just tell me when and where.
I would like to be an easy faction cause I'm just getting into this game.

GoreBag

03-10-2006, 06:12

That's Sunday at 17:30 GMT. If there's a faction in particular you'd like to use, please let me know.

King Ragnar

03-10-2006, 17:22

Gorebag will you please post a fresh version of all playres and their country please just so people arent confused i myself would like to be Italy.

GoreBag

03-11-2006, 00:04

I constantly update the first post, actually, to keep the list as fresh as possible, just for you.

King Ragnar

03-11-2006, 00:29

ok no problem.

[DnC]

03-11-2006, 10:06

I'm quite curious as to whom the people who haven't chosen a nation yet are going to play.
Besides what difficulty are we going to play at and what is the campaignmap speed?

GoreBag

03-11-2006, 20:24

Good questions. Any suggestions for difficulty? I figured we'd just use Normal speed, if that's okay with everyone, even if the game is less exciting at the beginning for most factions.

[DnC]

03-11-2006, 21:01

I'm quite easy when it comes to things such as this. I was thinking about normal speed as well. We could however up the speed to fast in peacetime, well any human player that's not fighting a war. Or is this to much of a hassle?

I haven't played a MP game before, so I'm just wondering if you can pause during a MP game? Perhaps pause each 1 januari 01:00? Otherwise if you want to change policies you might forget. And everytime you forget you'll be able to change it later and later and you'll get less the benefit of your changed policies. And having a date at which you can change your policies at the exact same time again and again makes it all the much easier for the mind instead of having to remember to change policies all the time.

discovery1

03-11-2006, 23:36

Good questions. Any suggestions for difficulty? I figured we'd just use Normal speed, if that's okay with everyone, even if the game is less exciting at the beginning for most factions.

I would suggest above normal, just because that's what I always play on. The ai should I think be normal/aggressive. Apparently that yields the best results for the ai w/o it cheating.

GoreBag

03-12-2006, 01:58

DNC brings up a good point. Pausing the game every January 1st it is.

Alright, that's one vote for Above Normal and two for Normal. I think Normal/Aggressive can be agreed upon, unless there are objections, of course.

GoreBag

03-12-2006, 02:11

Woohoo, double post. I just I'd let everyone know that about the important update to the main post concerning the Sino-Japanese war event fix, which we'll be using. To make sure everyone sees it, it can also be found here (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219343).

discovery1

03-12-2006, 06:16

You need to copy over certain events, btw.

King Ragnar

03-12-2006, 09:59

Very sorry guys, but i have to drop out, ive just found out this morning that i am going out for sunday lunch this afternoon and i am doubtful i will make it back in time, have fun guys.

Duke Malcolm

03-12-2006, 14:30

After searching my house as best I can, I have come to the conclusions that my brother has purloined my HoI 2 disk before going to sea. Since I have no way of getting to the Indian Ocean, finding his ship, and getting home in time to re-install HoI 2 (I currently have the Modern Day Scenario installed...) and play our little campaign, I shall have to withdraw from the game.

[DnC]

03-12-2006, 17:08

What's the game going to be called? The Org? Something with Org? And what's the password going to be? (PM the pass).

discovery1

03-12-2006, 18:10

GoreBag

03-12-2006, 18:16

The password will simply be 'org', then.

[DnC]

03-12-2006, 18:25

It will likely be the only one there, DnC. And does anyone want the modded event files? Not that I have anyplace to upload them, I think. To install overwrite the same files in C\...\Hearts of Iron 2\db\events .

Yeah I just checked online and found very few players. I was surprised! Anyways, see you all in a moment. Going to boot my system first (done in a jiffy).

discovery1

03-12-2006, 18:27

Valkyrienet game right?

GoreBag

03-12-2006, 18:30

Yep. I'm already hosting it.

discovery1

03-12-2006, 18:50

HEEELLP!!!

I can't get back into your game. It's not even on the 'current game' list....

[DnC]

03-12-2006, 18:55

Disco try again. Gorebag made a new game.

discovery1

03-12-2006, 20:31

Nooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It Had To Crash!!!!!!

[DnC]

03-12-2006, 20:40

Disco it doesn't matter. Gorebag saved the game and restarted it. Gotta love the save feature in MP! Come on in again ~:)

GoreBag

03-12-2006, 20:44

That offer goes for anyone else, as well.

Russiantsar

03-13-2006, 04:52

I'll try to join in with you guys next time you play if thats ok

GoreBag

03-14-2006, 00:07

Totally. Unless we decide otherwise, the game should be held at 17:30 GMT on Sundays.

King Ragnar

03-14-2006, 18:03

I may able to join with you guys this unday if thats ok.....

Eternal Champion

03-14-2006, 22:55

As you can see I've been MIA and for the next few weekends it looks like more of the same. I'll try and catch up in a few and maybe play a minor or take someones place if needed.

GoreBag

03-15-2006, 00:44

Fair enough. If you can make it on Sunday, Ragnar, that's cool with me.

discovery1

03-18-2006, 19:57

Gore, do you still have problems with the Sunday game time?

Csargo

03-18-2006, 22:02

Yeah are we gonna play Sunday I need to know so I can install the game on my computer with a connection to the internet if were not I'm going to do it later and I have to install fix to don't I.

Csargo

03-19-2006, 19:58

So I'm guessing were not gonna play today.

GoreBag

03-20-2006, 00:32

Here I am, late as promised; this has been the first time I've accessed a computer all weekend. I take full responsibility for the missed game today. If another game should be scheduled to make up for it, let me know.

Csargo

03-20-2006, 01:24

whenever everyone wants to play is fine with me

discovery1

03-20-2006, 07:47

Bad news: There is no way I will be able to make a Sunday game this upcoming. My plane for Urbana leaves at 6 AM(15:00 GMT) local time, and the trip probaby won't be over till 20:00 GMT. And I have a driver's test Wednesday. I don't know what else I will be doing this week.