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Xiahou
03-07-2006, 01:38
Popular Mechanics has written a somewhat interesting article (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=1&c=y) on Hurricane Katrina "myths". Here's a sample:

MYTH: "The aftermath of Katrina will go down as one of the worst abandonments of Americans on American soil ever in U.S. history."--Aaron Broussard, president, Jefferson Parish, La., Meet the Press, NBC, Sept. 4, 2005

REALITY: Bumbling by top disaster-management officials fueled a perception of general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors. In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's landfall.

MYTH: "They have people ... been in that frickin' Superdome for five days watching dead bodies, watching hooligans killing people, raping people."--New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin, The Oprah Winfrey Show, Sept. 6, 2005

REALITY: Both public officials and the press passed along lurid tales of post-Katrina mayhem: shootouts in the Superdome, bodies stacked in a convention center freezer, snipers firing on rescue helicopters. And those accounts appear to have affected rescue efforts as first responders shifted resources from saving lives to protecting rescuers. In reality, although looting and other property crimes were widespread after the flooding on Monday, Aug. 29, almost none of the stories about violent crime turned out to be true. Col. Thomas Beron, the National Guard commander of Task Force Orleans, arrived at the Superdome on Aug. 29 and took command of 400 soldiers. He told PM that when the Dome's main power failed around 5 am, "it became a hot, humid, miserable place. There was some pushing, people were irritable. There was one attempted rape that the New Orleans police stopped."

The only confirmed account of a weapon discharge occurred when Louisiana Guardsman Chris Watt was jumped by an assailant and, during the chaotic arrest, accidently shot himself in the leg with his own M-16.

MYTH: "The failure to evacuate was the tipping point for all the other things that ... went wrong."--Michael Brown, former FEMA director, Sept. 27, 2005

REALITY: When Nagin issued his voluntary evacuation order, a contraflow plan that turned inbound interstate lanes into outbound lanes enabled 1.2 million people to leave New Orleans out of a metro population of 1.5 million. "The Corps estimated we would need 72 hours [to evacuate that many people]," says Brian Wolshon, an LSU civil engineer. "Instead, it took 38 hours." Later investigations indicated that many who stayed did so by choice. "Most people had transportation," says Col. Joe Spraggins, director of emergency management in Harrison County, Ala. "Many didn't want to leave." Tragic exceptions: hospital patients and nursing home residents.
These are just excerpts- I recommend reading the entire article.

Papewaio
03-07-2006, 01:48
Facts! In the backroom... I think this belongs in the Monastery. :laugh4:

Azi Tohak
03-07-2006, 04:22
Nice Pape. But thanks, I'm glad to see a source for the BS hunting I have heard from some of my friends.

Azi

Xiahou
03-07-2006, 07:12
Well I hate to say it, but when you consider that most people who were still in New Orleans when Katrina struck chose to stay and that the Red Cross had supplies ready to deliver to the shelters almost immediately, but were denied access by local officials......... it pretty much changes everything the media reported during and in the days after Katrina.

Our news outlets got it all wrong again. :no:

Banquo's Ghost
03-07-2006, 11:01
From t'other side of the pond, it does seem that what started as a major natural disaster has been used (not least here) to attack the administration unduly. There certainly appears to have been mistakes made, but governments are notorious for taking the more cautious route when faced with the unpredictability of Nature. They get caned for over-reaction too. (UK's Foot and Mouth, anyone?)

I was surprised that this hasn't come up in the Backroom to date, but I was wondering what people thought of the recently released teleconference video that appeared to show a disturbing lack of inquisitiveness by the President, and doubt cast on the veracity of his later claim that no-one could have predicted the breach of the levees? This has excited many of the media here to further illustrate the President's incapacity for considered thought, and his capacity for fibbing.

How was the video received in the States? I suspect from the lack of posting here, it made little impact compared to here in Europe.

Proletariat
03-07-2006, 14:49
I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. The news has been pretty rabid about this. In light of this article, it looks the government is being punished simply because a natural disaster occured, rather than by the merit of their response to it.


Adrian had a great post where he brought up how natural disasters were always met with this kinda outrage through history, but before the modern era the scapegoat was usually superstitious or religious in nature. Now it's the same sort of misplaced anger but thanks to our understanding of natural disasters it gets aimed at our governments instead of the Thunder God. I wish I could find it, it was alot better than that, but that's the best I remember. Try and imagine what the post was really like. You'll think it was good, too.

Vladimir
03-07-2006, 15:06
Adrian had a great post where he brought up how natural disasters were always met with this kinda outrage through history, but before the modern era the scapegoat was usually superstitious or religious in nature. Now it's the same sort of misplaced anger but thanks to our understanding of natural disasters it gets aimed at our governments instead of the Thunder God. I wish I could find it, it was alot better than that, but that's the best I remember. Try and imagine what the post was really like. You'll think it was good, too.

Maybe we should go back to blaming God, it would be so much cheaper.

yesdachi
03-07-2006, 15:18
Maybe we should go back to blaming God, it would be so much cheaper.
Can we start sacrificing virgins again too? it worked for... well i don't think it ever worked but it might be fun to try and find one.:laugh2:

But that could be practically impossible after the Clinton administration - ZING!

BDC
03-07-2006, 16:37
The only confirmed account of a weapon discharge occurred when Louisiana Guardsman Chris Watt was jumped by an assailant and, during the chaotic arrest, accidently shot himself in the leg with his own M-16.

That's quite an impressive feat there. Shooting yourself in the leg, but also managing it whilst arresting somone.

Vladimir
03-07-2006, 18:54
Can we start sacrificing virgins again too? it worked for... well i don't think it ever worked but it might be fun to try and find one.:laugh2:

But that could be practically impossible after the Clinton administration - ZING!

Send the virgins to me. I will perform the appropriate, erm, rituals. Carefully though; white ceremonial robes stain as easily as blue dresses.

BigTex
03-07-2006, 18:57
Omg someone stating real facts about katrina and not overblown yellow journalism. As for the people who stayed there, most of them stayed becuase they thought "hey i weathered a couple hurricanes what can this do?". Not becuase they couldnt afford to leave, even though yes i'm not ignorantly saying that there werent a few who couldn't afford it. Evacuating a family can cost upwords of a couple grand.

I personally found it funny that the news stations reported that people were looting food so they could feed themselves. Yet when those same news stations went back to the stores, there was plenty of food left on the shelves. But all the jewelry was gone, there wasnt a trace of electronics left, clothing racks were bear, and shoes were somehow missing.

Mr. Naggin is an ignorant bigott who just happened to be runing New Orleans while a big storm hit.

As for why the levee's broke, i'm much more inclined to blaim the constant dredging of the missisippi for centuries without dumping the dirt in the swamps. The swamps have been massively shrinking since the 1950's, and those were new orleans natural defense to a hurricane. But apparently its much easier to blame the levee's since their man made and quite overbearing in some places.

I personally completely put all the blame on Posiedon, he cuased those massive storm surges and that hurricane. We need to be sacrificing virgins to prevent more of these horrid storms. As for were you can find them I do believe there are a few virgins left in North Dakota.

Last but not least I wish those poor Army Engineers who are trying to repair the levee's and taking alot of sh*t for something that wasnt their fault, good luck.